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chance or do athletes get opportunities others don't? husband, how some are using skype to meet their match. but will it make the search for true love a lot less personal? and a good morning to all of you. welcome to msnbc saturday where it's 8 ox a.m. on the east coast, 5:00 a.m. out west. all that plus a developing story about afghanistan in moments. but first we're turning our attention to the west and the president's personal pitch for health care reform. president obama will address a crowd in colorado at 6:15 p.m. eastern time today. and in his weekly address this morning, the president once again criticizes the media for focusing on the disagreements at these town halls saying that television, quote, loves a ruckus. i'm joined now from d.c. live by washington correspondent for reuters. and a good morning to you you. >> good morning. >> so no real ruckuses at the president's town hall, but not all friendly questions either. what are you expecting we'll see

today? >> well, we'll have to wait and see, but i think that in colorado what the white house would like to see is a little bit more of the critique that we've seen at some of the town hall meetings that congressmen and senators have received since they've gone back for their august recess. we haven't seen much of that. you could argue that in new hampshire it was a bit of a love fest. we saw a question from a cute little 8-year-old girl to president obama. we saw a number of other nice things that were being said from the audience members, but not that hard push back that the white house would perhaps like to see at the town hall meeting coming up this afternoon in grand junction, colorado. >> senator orrin hatch talked a little this morning and aimed at the 85% of americans who do have health coverage. let's listen here. >> if federal government's control of our health care system continues to increase, private coverage will continue to decrease until we are left with a washington run and

dictated health care system. >> who is whipping the message over health care in. >> i think the critics, the opponents are winning. you can only look to poll numbers that bear that out. the president has lost a lot of ground over the past month or so as it relates to health care reform. and that's one reason, alex, that the white house is sort of making a new argument and not calling it necessarily an overhaul of health care, but, rather, a reform of health insurance and the way that people receive it throughout this country. there isn't a lot of -- there aren't a lot of fans, i should say, for the insurance companies out there and that's the reason why the president in his morning address hit hard at the insurance companies that provide health insurance to people throughout the country. >> in a radio interview, i don't know murtha said lawmakers are

telling nancy palau city not it to rush things. is this a bad sign for the president? joe scarborough told me he said if this doesn't happen by the end of october, he didn't think it's going to happen. >> yeah, i think joe is right on the mark here. it's not a good sign when you have a very loyal democratic in john murtha making these remarks that health care reform shouldn't come until perhaps january and even then congressman murtha said he doesn't know if it will pass. this is a language time murder of the house of representatives, a close ally of nancy pelosi, and he comes from a district that is very solidly democratic. it's not a good sign when you have someone like this making these remarks. >> okay. john, we always preerkts your remarks. thanks very much. >> thanks a lot, alex. the first family made time in montana for some whitewater rafting. today they are touring national parks in yellowstone, wyoming and grand junction, colorado. in addition to the president's

town hall at precisely 6:15 p.m. eastern time. chuck todd is traveling with the president and he will join us with a live report in just a little bit. seven people are dead, 91 injured after a suicide car bombing at nato's military headquarters in afghanistan. it happened in the capital city of kabul in a heavily guarded neighborhood. it comes five days before the presidential election. thetal l taliban has claimed responsibility. the blast was the first major attack since february. >> and do look at this video from china. the flooding is as you can see literally watching the homes away. not only causing landslides, but they destroyed roads and burst the river banks. according to cctv, china's state owned news channel, up to 11 are dead, two people are injured. well, police in georgia confirm that a missing woman's cell phone has been found along

the side of a road. a man mowing his yard spotted that phone about three miles away from where kristi disappeared. she was talking to her boyfriend while walking along the road in blairsville, tuesday evening. her boyfriend says he heard a scream and then what sounded like a struggle. police say finding the phone will help in the investigation. >> the scene out here verifies that the cell phone belongs to the victim. >> joining me live from washington, d.c., clint, the and you tore of facing down evil. good morning. >> alex, you always make saturday morning tv worthwhile. good to see you. it. >> thanks. i'm glad you're here. i want to talk about the discovery of the cell phone. how hopeful can this be and n. locating her? it's not with her. >> quau, it's not with her. and you and i have followed enough of these story rngs we know that what police and fbi are looking for are the pings off the cell phone.

you want them to retain it at least for a while so we can tell which direction she may have been taken. but the down side is, as much as this has been publicized either in stories like we're talking about right now or just made for tv movies, bad guys know one of the first things they have to do is get rid of the vehicle tim's cell phone. so it may give us a direction that she might have been taken. it shows it's 3.5 miles from where we believe this abduction took place, but other than that, it's not going to give us a whole lot. >> what do they do to try figure out if this was a random attack or if someone raps who might have known kristi? what's your gut on this in. >> first of all, you want to look at the vehicle tim. they ha victim. they've eliminated her three ex-husbands and her boyfriend. she was walking. he's the one that allegedly heard the abduction taking place. so now they've looked at known sex offender, they've looked at individuals that have been

released from prison. you know, this is a small rural area. this isn't a big city where you're walking down the street. so whether her pattern of activity, she walked almost night nightly, same place, a time. i don't know if you could set your watch by her, but you knew she was going to be out there. so whether she was someone specifically targeted her or in other cases that i've seen, just a random victim of violence. they've got two different cars that local citizens have seen. they said, hey, these two cars don't belong in this area. they were here the same night, too. so police have got something to look for about. and thank god she was on that cell phone at the time. it's almost a miracle she was on the phone at the time. but that pinpoint the time it took place and it also shows us at least by the phone where it likely took place. that's where police went, they found her belongings, but, alex, time is our enemy in a case like this. and it's going longer. >> i'm curious, from the

criminal's perspective, who kidnaps someone, they're talking on on the cell phone? let me go snatch that person right there. to what extent does that conversation give them evidence? i mean, how much can the boyfriend, who was on the phone with her, hutow much can he reay reveal? >> he shared everything he heard. we know supposedly the vehicle tim told her boyfriend there's a car stopping, i don't know what this is all about. and then he hear as voice saying, oh, no, please don't take me. and then there's a struggle and the phone goes dead. we'd like to think that phone is a safe thing. we tell people to take a phone when you're walking. the best case scenario obviously would have been to tell the boyfriend, you know, it's a 1999 ford explorer, georgia license plate so-and-so. she's a former probation officer. she knows to get information out there. so there may be other information she shared that law enforcement hasn't put out there yet. but it was only a year and a half ago you and i were talking about another story, a young

college woman by the name of meredith emerson who was kidnapped in the same county by a monster who kept her for three day, assaulted her, eventually beheaded her. so it's a terrible story in the same county, but it gives law enforcement some hope, if this is a will get matt kidnapping, maybe the victim is still alive. >> okay, clint, we'll talk to you again. thanks so much. let's go to some big weather developments this morning. we have a live look now at the first named storm of the atlantic season. the forecasters are closely monitoring tropical storm ana and the system is slowly gathering strength and it could pose a real threat to florida and he coast. let's get the latest from bill karins. >> all eyes will be on ana. it flared up last night, quickly went to a tropical depression, and then became ana. but now this morning it's not

looking so impressive anymore. this is not a big storm. it's a little small storm. and these storms can either flare up quickly or they can wind down to nothing quickly. so we'll have to wait and see. here's a perspective on where the storm is, way out there in the middle of the atlantic, about two or three days away from puerto rico and still far away from any threat cuba or the florida area. here's the expected forecast path of the storm as we go throughout the next four to five days from the hurricane center. they say by day five, it could be anywhere off the southeast coast or as far south as cuba or the nrn caribbean, so a lot of questions. the key to the forecast is that as of now, it looks like it will remain relatively weak. we'll continue to watch our computer models where they'll be taking the storm, so everyone right now in florida or the caribbean, we have to keep a close eye on ana. >> thanks, bill. still ahead, michael vick's new life with a new team. does he deserve this second chance? also, why police were called to the house of jon and kate

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msnbc is the place for politics and we're counting down to the president's town hall in colorado today. the scheduled start time is 6:15 p.m. eastern. msnbc will be bringing that to you live. for more on who is going and the questions the president may face, i'm engined live from big sky, montana, by chuck todd. good morning. >> good morning. >> told you the sun would be

coming up. see, it's there. all right. let's talk a little bit about who is coming to this event today. how do we know how the tickets have gotten out there, how they've been distributed and how much is the white house concerned that this crowd could be less than friendly? >> i don't think the white house is concerned about what kind of crowd they'll get that the point. i mean, i think that they would say the lesson that we should be taking from the new hampshire town hall, from yesterday's town hall in montana and probably what we'll probably see in grand jupgs is that, you know what, not every town hall gets out of hand. there are crazy momentses. in fact, most of the town halls are done -- could be duct the respective respectively. the president himself yesterday went out of his way to call for if you're going it disagrit to , let not it talk over each other. so i think all of that put together has led to what we've

seen relatively tame town halls. as far as the tough questions, i would argue yesterday he got two pretty difficult ones that he had to deal with that he seemed to have to push back and had to be a little quicker on his feet. the one from the nra member and one from an insurance salesman. so it seems like with each town hall, we've seen an increase in the number of tough questions. >> emotions running pretty high on both sides of the debate, but this is clearly a tough sell for the president. if we use yesterday's town hall as an example, do you think the president will succeed in getting the public on his side? >> well, i don't know if he's ever going to to succeed in getting a large majority of the public on his side. he does have democratis, on his side.ones in the middle, the independents, is where he's seen

his numbers slide the most. overall job rating and specifically on health care. so i do think that that is what these messages are aimed at. that's why you're seeing his message be about health insurance reform. and basically trying to explain to people with health insurance what they'll get out of this reform. >> and this whole weekend, you've got the president the way he looks, the demeanor, the schedule. it still looks like a campaign trip. do you see that? >> yesterday definitely had a little bit of a campaign rhetoric to it. the president himself talk about go out there, knock on doors. he was urging the audience to help folks get on his side. and i do believe the white house believe there is lemonade to be made out of lemons. and that is it is firing up the president's base. a lot of obama supporters haven't been -- have been com

lazy and in the getting out there, so i think they think it's an opportunity potentially to mobilize on their side and if they can do that, maybe that stiffens the spine of congressional democrats when they have back in september. >> i see people walking there behind you. there's life. you can go and hang out with some people there. >> there's a little bit of life. hey, we should talk about the president will do a little -- this is a, wog vacation. he tours yellowstone today. and he and the family will get a glimpse of old faithful. so maybe we'll sneak a cam a are a in there and take a look. >> i hope you do. thanks very much. now, in california today, the firefighters there continue battling several large wildfireses. and the new fear today are the strong winds and dry conditions. and they could ignite more fires and force evacuations in areas that already are under a state of emergency. let's go right now to michael okwu in davenport. let's get to the very latest details from the santa cruz

mountains. it's a beautiful area. what's happened with the firefighters on the front line? >> reporter: well, i can tell you at this point that they've made some progress. 15% containment is a long way from where we were just 24 hours ago. so firefighters certainly happy about that. but they know they'll be the first time to tell you don't get over-jewed about it. they're literally not out of the woods yet. you mentioned the winds. that's been the concern for the last 48 hours and that's no different today. they're expecting on on shore winds and some erratic gusts of up to 20 miles an hour about that could potentially fan these flames closer to communities. now, we're talking specifically about the town of bonny doon. some people might know this town because there are wineries in that location, but this is a place where some 2,000 people have already been evacuated. the very big concern is that the flames could reach that area. we spent some time with a firefighter who told us what their major concerns are.

>> the fuels, the terrain, the difficulty of access all make it difficult. heavy timber, it's not very easy to combat with engines. it requires aircraft, hand crew, bulldozers. it's very difficult to put out with a fire engine taking a hose and trying to skirt down 100 foot flaming red wood tree is a difficult task. >> reporter: he mentioned the terrain. frankly, this wildfire is burning in some very steep canyons making it very difficult for firefighters to get containment lines around it and lots of fuel, all that dry brush. there's been a drought in california for the last three years, so a lot of stuff to burn that just waiting to be good x. ploeded. >> michael, thank you for that update. appreciate it. well, a record in london smashed by the band u2. that group broke the attendance record at womenbly stadium last night. reports estimate the crowd at

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michael vick is headed to play football in philadelphia, but not every eagles fan is showing him the brotherly love. animal rights activists stood outside eagles stadium showing images of dogfights. since his release from prison, he's been work wgt hugh main society to speak out against dogfighting. >> may a horrible mistake and now i want to be part of the solution and not the problem. i'm making conscious efforts in the community to work with the humane society. >> joining me live is sports

reporter gram bcht event nnizinger. let's talk about michael vick's deal. he has two years with the eagles. there's an article that says riskry business, eagles will regret signing michael vick. what do you think about the daily news line there? do you agree? >> i really think it's too early to say. i think the reaction in philadelphia has been mixed. it's range trd cautious optimism to neutrality to people being absolutely furious. there was actually a story that said hide your dogs. the other said what were they thinking. so i think the emotion he elicits from people certainly palpable. let's not forget this was a man who was involved with killing lots of dogs, hanging dogs from trees, electrocuting dogs with jumper cable, holding dogs under water until they drowned.

so any reaction people have to this man i think certainly is warranted. but what will happen and what will come of his time with the eagles remains to be seen. >> you know, you've got the protestors showing up and there's often this perception, though, that somehow athletes get treated better than regular people. you're just out of jail, it's not easy to find a big paying job, but look at like and he will vehicle. what does that say? >> right. i mean, i would agree with you on that front if it wasn't for his athletic talents. if it was you or and i or average joe on the street, they certainly wouldn't have as much success in getting a job right after getting out of jail. i mean, you look at vick's situation. you heard the clip coming back

from break or you watched it. he says all the right things, but to go from actively being involved in dogfighting, participating in dogfighting, to two years later being completely against it, that seems unlikely. i talked to wayne paselli, the president of the national humane society. he head with vick in jail, and he said only time will tell if vick is indeed a changed man. i think all of us would certainly hope so and it would be nice to see and use his stature to create positive change. but saying all the right things and doing the right things are completely different things. being from st. louis, you know, you look at mark mcguire on capitol hill a couple years ago talking about steroids when he was pressured by congress when lights were glaring, he said he wanted to help educate kids make

the right decisions and obviously those promises were empty. so it would be nice to see vick follow through and do the right thing, but again only time will tell. >> in ten second positive sports fans, what will it be like with vehicle there behind mcnabb? >> i think the pressure is on do that van mcnabb. while vick will have a different position short term, let's just say hypothetically mb nab getting injured, vick comes in, has huge success felling in for mcnabb, then mcnabb comes back from injury, presents an interesting dynamic and it will be interesting to see how it all plays out. >> okay, grahagraham, thank you very much. >> really a pleasure. jon and kate plus police. cops were called to the home in pennsylvania. the two of course legally separated. jon was at the family's home

filming portions of the show when the couple had an argument after kate showed up on thursday night. >> it was just more of a mother's instinct. i don't know. just called and it's my day for custody and i wanted to spend time with my kids. i had two days custody. >> how are you do something. >> i'm fine. i'm fine. just i got keep on moving through life and that's the way it is. >> jon says when kate called police, he describes it all about miscommunication. police left after the situation calmed down. imodium multi-symptom relief combines two powerful medicines for fast relief of your diarrhea symptoms, so you can get back out there. imodium. get back out there. ♪ [ tires screech ] [ female announcer ] sometimes, you can get so much out of so little. the same is true with bath tissue too. introducing new charmin ultra soft.

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today tensions across afghanistan. a suicide car bombing has killed seven and injured more than 90. the taliban said it carried out the attack. now the terror group is promising more attacks in the hope of disresulting the upcoming presidential election. let's go live to richard engel in kabul for us.

what's the latest there? >> reporter: good morning. we are learning more about the victims of this attack. apparently the majority were workers at the ministry of transport when the bomb went off at 8:30 this morning. they were going into work. where the explosion took place is one of the most secure and fortified parts of this city, an intersection where there are several foreign embassy, government ministries, the presidential palace, the u.s. embassy is only about 100 yards away where the bomb went off. so it is something of a green zone and that is what the taliban was targeting. we spoke to a spokesman who says the goal was to target the nato headquarters which has the u.s. embassy close by. a u.s. embassy spokesman says that all american personnel have been accounted for. the taliban said there would be more attacks like this in the

lead up to elections which is scheduled to take place here next thursday. >> how do you think this affects voter turnout? you've got five more days of potential terrorism attacks. what will that do to that? >> reporter: there are concerns not only here in kabul, but particularly in the south that voter turnout will be low. over the last several days, the southern provinces of afghanistan have been an active battle zone as u.s. marines are are on an offensive to try to clear the taliban out of certain of their strong holds that they are militant strong holds, drug smuggling strong holds to allow people to vote. if these areas remain active war zones as they are right now, people will not be able to vote and across the country, there is thought only nervousness, but also general apathy. so there are concerns among electoral officials and diplomats that voter turnout will not be very high. >> okay.

richard, thank you very much for that live report. do appreciate it. we have some new details in the midair crash between a small plane and helicopter over the hudson river in new york. two air traffic controllers have now been suspended for their behavior last saturday, the day of the disaster. one of the controllers was on a personal phone call at the time. the associated press says he was reportedly talking about a dead cat found on the ground at teterboro airport and the supervisor was not present because he had left to run an errand. here's what the head of the ntsb is saying about it. >> it is too early to speculate whether or not atc was a cause in this accident and it's inappropriate for others to do so. >> the faa. >> yes. >> well, a total of nine people died in that midair collision. we're going back to politics now and the people and groups competing for your support on health care. by now you you may already be firmly entrenched on one side of the issue or the other, but that is not stopping activists from

turning up the heat. for more on whos has the right strategy, i'm joined by lisa and ed. good morning to the two of you. ladies first. who is win something. >> it's still a little early to tell, but i think the white house has found itself on the defense. the last thing they want is these kinds of town halls spooking the moderate republicans and democrats whose support they need. of course it's still early and these protests could back tire. i was at a bunch of the towel haun town halls in iowa and they said it's a serious issue and polarizing it so much may not be the right approach. >> ed, your take. who is winning august and why? >> i think the way the president handled yesterday is a good indication of where he may be headed in the coming days and

weeks. august is still a few more weeks to go. the recess continues. and he could still turn this around, if he gets tougher questions, which the white house wants him to get tougher questions. he may be able to convince people using his bully pulpit. i think part of the anger is still driven by the fact there have been so many other pieces of legislation moved by the congress that the public didn't get a chance to weigh in on and now sort of the chickens are coming home to roost and people are taking out all of their confusion and frustration and anger and concern on health care because you passed t.a.r.p. last fall, you into the a stimulus package through, you're working on energy and climate change legislation, you really have been moving quite quickly, could you slow down and answer my questions. whether or not it's orchestrated or not, that's genuine concern that congress is moving too quickly. >> lisa, the right has very strong key phrases, death

panels, soesh lized medicine, health rationing. it seems as if the left is not able to boil down their message to these catch phrases. is their message too complicated, what do you think? >> i think it is tougher for democrats in part because of the rope ed mention reason ed mentioned because they have to deal with the stimulus package or bailing out the auto companies. but i think it's also they have to deal with the fact this that they don't really have a bill. if there was a final bill, it would be easier for democrats to have talking points. but the president has released some general principles, but those aren't shared by everyone in kopg, but they don't really have concrete points that they can turn to. they also have to sort of correct the misperceptions, the idea that the legislation includes death panel he will pa. of course that's not true and i think democrats find themselves spending a lot of time correcting that kind of thing.

>> the president's town hall meetings have been mild. do you find that helpful or does it hurt the president has less sparks flying? you said he wants to take these tougher questions, but does it get the kind of attention he needs? >> the desire to have tougher questions asked comes from a reporting in the today's "post." he wants these tougher questions. he has to hope for the ability to take a page from john mccain's playbook. he used to go around the country and hold these town hall meetings. he'd answer every single question until there were no more questions to be asked. that's how he won over people and that's what the president needs to be able to do. say i'm going to answer all your concerns, don't be afraid to step up and ask them. and allow me to con frnt these concerns and these catch phrases and whatever else head on. democrats are not as good as

republicans at coming up with catch phrases and quickly defining issues. they have to go around and correct these mistakes now or these misperceived notions and the president is best equipped to somehow address all of then and make it clear what it is that he wants to happen. >> i've got a great writer and producer who is good at that thing, but i'm not letting him go. thank you very much, lisa and ed. appreciate that. health care topic number one on meet press oig tomorrow. david gregory will focus on on refo reform with dim army, tom coburn, tom daschle and rachel maddow. check your local listing. olympic swimming champion michael phelps may have a record number of gold medals, but he does not have a valid driver's license. at the time of his car accident thursday thit in baltimore, police say phelpss gave them an expired michigan driver'sly sense. he's being cited for that and for not establishing residency in maryland.

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is celebrating its 450th birthday. its rech history began on august 15th, 1559 when a spanish explorer came to shore and established pensacola. joining me live as soon as he sits down is the host of the morning show, joe, but right note we're looking to pensacola. and a good morning to you, doctor. >> good morning. >> joe is joining us, as well. doctor, i will begin with you. are there any special events planned to celebrate this major birthday? 450. >> all day. this is the biggest birthday party pensacola, florida has ever had. in about an hour, there's going to be a re-enactment of the actual landing out on beautiful pensacola beach. and then there's going to be a party tonight, that will be the biggest birthday party in the

history of pensacola. >> and some party it should be. i want to talk to you, joe, about the time line. it is phenomenal. it was first founded in 1559. that is before shakespeare wrote hamlet. >> isn't that amazing? >> before james town, virginia was founded 50 years later. i understand, also, what's this about a rivalry between pensacola and saut. augustine? >> there's no rivalry. think about this. and i didn't even realize this. not only does america not know that pensacola is where america began, but a lot of people in florida don't even realize it. pensacola has been under a spanish flag longer than it's been under an american flag. think about it. >> great detail.

>> 1959 all the way this to i think the beginning of the 1800s, we were under spanish -- 1821. it's absolutely stunning that we've been -- that's how long pensacola has been around. >> and, doctor, you talk about the beautiful shores there and that of course is how it was discovered having come ashore. you have students searching ship wrecks for artifacts? have you found anything lately? >> actually, 1559 was a long time ago and we're the first city to celebrate the 450th anniversary in the whole country. but one of the things that happened is there was a terrible hurricane about five weeks after the luna 1550 landed and six of their ships sunk in pensacola bay and we found two of them. and they're incredible. they are just like needles in a haystack. but the university of west in a archeology program has found two and students found them and they're working on them today as we speak. >> that is so cool.

does that mean next time joe goes down to peps cola, he'll don a wet suit and head on down? >> i'm still looking for the gold. you can imagine gold from 1559, how much that will be worth? >> and it wouldn't even look like gold when you find it. >> they're only in 12 feet of water about that 12 feet right by the visitor he center. right downtown pensacola. >> how much, doctor, are people excited about this? how much do pensacolians know and think this is major history? >> we're absolutely overwhelmed when we found those ships. pensacola starts its clock at 15:59 and you're right, we've beenoff looked forever under st. augustine's shadow. but at the same time, when you

find something like this, a stone cannon ball that was brought here from 1559 and is anti-shrapnel, they haven't made these things for 400 years. >> that is so cool. what is it about pensacola that you love so much? what's the charm of that place? >> well, they voted for me. no, i've had people for years that i went to college with just kept asking what i loved so much with b. pensacola. it is absolutely a gorgeous place. it doesn't cost a lot to live will. and it's great. every time i fly home, i feel like i'm going on vacation because the water ways are all over the place, the water is like 85 degrees. it really is just absolutely gorgeous. as a historian, i think his story what makes it such a remarkable place. >> well, lots of history to be celebrated today. doctor, congratulations on all the festivities. i'm sure joe will celebrate from afar. joe, thanks for sticking around.

>> thanks for talking about our hometown. very exciting. and if you all are up at 6:00 on the weekday mornings, check out joe on morning joe, 6:00 a.m. weekdays here monday to friday. still ahead for this hour of msnbc saturday, though, a mother tasered in front of her children gets ready to sue. you'll hear from her in our next hour. i'll bill karins. the forecast looks eye deal for the beach today. from the great lakes in to new england, a hot summer day. upper 80s for most areas. we will see thunderstorms along the coastal southeast all through florida. the middle of the country looking okay, but showers and stores possible today areas in

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how did they go in. >> they went well. the first 30 seconds was a little and you can quard, why am i talking to someone on a computer, but then you get moving and it's just like another conversation. for you get about the interface. >> do you have a second skype with any of them? >> your second skype will be a real life date if things go well. >> so this a great screening tool. is that what it is? >> that sounds a little impersonal. you're getting a sense of who they are, whether there's any chemistry. it's a itch remember experience than just a phone call. >> and you're not spending any money on that original thing. so you decide i'm going to pull out my wallet for this one and you meet up fraps, but tell me about some of the stories. your experiences. are they good experiences on skype? did you go out with anybody? >> i did. i went out with one of them. we actually had a contact on glamour.com. so readers into to the watch three of my skype dates, which was kind of nerve-racking. and then they showed the woman they thought was best for me.

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