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grateful he spent at judy. >> it's weird to talk about judy as another person. i am grateful for the time judy was in my life, because judy did keep me alive when all hope seemed to be lost in the life that i was living. >> in the end, joseph feels his story is not so remarkable, not in the big picture sense, anyway. it has unusual complications and full of struggles, but he says it's still a story of a search for love and longing. >> the day-to-day life of people in a relationship. you come home to your spouse every night and you have dinner, and you sit together on the touch and watch television or a movie together and go to bed and
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work up the next day and go to work. it's about family and about loving and caring for another person, and that makes me no different than anybody else on the planet. it's a big week ahead for president obama. he tackles jobs today and education tomorrow and health care on wednesday. the controversy has already been days in the running. and environmental advisor, van jones, resigning over controversial comments and actions. what does that resignation say about the administration's vetting process. more kids going back to school this week and swine flu is following behind. the head of the cbc says the virus is coming back so quickly.
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workers rushing to fix a crack in one of the nation's busiest bridges. it could make for one heck of a traffic nightmare tomorrow in the bay area. good labor day morning to you, and i am monica novotny. the president will speak at the labor day picnic in cincinnati as a preview of sorts to wednesday's major speech to congress. mike viqueira is live at the white house. the largest union federation, and they are saying the public option is not going to be able to left out. >> reporter: key allies in this fight, and the question is what will the president say about the public option, the government-run health care plan
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that they want to see involved in the legislation, and the only problem is people are counting the votes. they are unclear whether they can get the through. that's bound to disappoint labor and liberals who insist it must be part of the package. all ears will be on the president when he makes the speech. >> mike, the white house releasing the full statement -- or the full speech for tomorrow's school children. it's available for parents and teachers to read. david axelrod said he is bewillered over the issue. let's play a clip. >> some parents are going to keep their kids at home. >> yeah, that's silly. they can go to school and not watch. that doesn't make sense.
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it's about personal responsibility, and it's about being accountable. does the white house feel confidence that they addressed the concerns? >> reporter: well, you saw him say that's kind of season. they are trying to make a speech by the president of the united states to school children around the country. it's supposed to be aired live on c-span and the internet tomorrow at noon. and the schools say it sort of enter rupts the plans, and a lot of students returning to school tomorrow. and there are others that say the president is trying to promote a cultive personality somehow. many are concerned on those grounds, monica. >> good to see you. thank you. overhauling the president's
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health care system is important to the president right now, but does president obama risk crippling his presidency. the public option is make or break. aides say it's not one of the president's mandates. let's play what david axelrod said on "meet the press." >> there must be an exchange where people get insurance at a competitive price. the public option is an important tool to help provoke that where there is no competition. the public option would be a valuable tool within that group, that package of plans that would be offered, private and public. he believes the public option is a good tool. it should not define the whole health care debate, however. >> john, can you read the tea leaves on this one? what will it?
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>> you have favorable comments from the democratic left and democratic center over the weekend, with a triggered public option, which is a way of saying there would be a government plan but would come into existence in the marketplace failed. they would set certain benchmarks, and that might be a way to tell liberals, yes, we have a public option if we need it, but to tell people like ben nelson that says i am not voting as a government plan, and that's a potential way of making it work. olympia snow, who might be the 60th vote to beat a filibuster, is somebody that favors that idea. >> tell me more about fighting the new setback? >> well, his poll numbers are down. he was in the 60s earlier this year, and now he is in the 50s. he has an unemployment rate, as
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you know, went to 9.7% on friday which makes it easier for critics to say the plan is not working. he has a way to tackle that. of course the most difficult think of all is health care, which is why the speech on wednesday night is so important. he has to get that over the goal line. it's credit come, as you said, a moment ago to the success of his presidency. >> even if the speech goes well over in congress is that enough? >> no. it's not going to be enough. what he has to do is define a sweet spot so people in the house who are prepared to vote for him, he has a large majority in the house, they know they will not go out on the limb by th themselves. he needs to try to define a package. they have been reluctant to do that, especially in the finance
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committee, and he needs to set parameters. and the house is likely to move as well. he still can achieve this goal by the end of the year. he needs a little fresh momentum now. >> john, quickly, the green jobs advisor, jones resigning over the weekend. any insight into what happened there? >> he was associated with the suggestion the u.s. government had something to do with the 9/11 attacks on purpose. that's baggage he could not afford to carry. there are people with lower level jobs that don't get vetted the same as higher ranked cabinet members. and this is what happened. now, this is an inch-thick crack detected by bridge
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inspectors late last week while workings were replacing part of the bridge. crews say commuters may have to wait one more day before it's finished. and the wildfires already scorched more than 150,000 acres, and is 51% contained. the total number of homes destroyed is at 78. today, cooler temperatures and higher humidity is expected to help. but fire is not expected to be fully contained for at least another week. today the son of libyan leader, mow march gadhafi has a new issue getting attention.
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gordon brown said his government would support ira victims. allegations of fraud have thrown the elections into chaos in afghanistan. thousands of ballots were counted at sites where no voting took place. that's a string of allegations of misconduct that came pouring in. they will sort through all of it before a winner is named. richard, how significant are the fraud allegations and could they change the out come of the election? >> reporter: they are very significant. it's not just hundreds of allegations.
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we were told that it's almost 3,000 allegations of fraud and voter irregularities. about 700 of those are considered so serious that they could impact the out come of the election. now, a lot of this -- most of the allegations are directed at the incumbent, karzai, and opposition here and others say karzai supporters stuffed the boxes. and look at kandahar, very few people came out to vote, and maybe turnout was 5%, and roughly 25,000 people casting votes on voting day last month, but mysteriously, 350,000 ballots turned up in the boxes in that area, so it did not add up. that's taking place in many places across the country. in kandahar, 25,000 voted, and
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350,000 ballots counted. and it's these diskrtype of thi that put it into question. >> are there concerns there will be questions no matter who is named given the numbers that you are talking about? >> reporter: it's very significant. not only for the people in kabul, but it's significant for the u.s. mission. the entire u.s. mission right now is to try and build-up a credible afghan government, credible and significant afghan security forces, so if there are significant questions about the legitimacy of the afghan government, it makes the entire mission for the u.s. forces much more difficult here. >> richard engel, thank you as always. back here at home, we will take you to a lighter note. a beach day for you on this
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labor day. let's go to meteorologist, bill karins, who has the forecast for us. a good monday and labor day to everybody. monica, things are quiet in the tropical sxikz tand quiet here. no storms have hit the u.s. bill brushed by the coast but did not make landfall. usually this time we are starting to watch the third, on average, hurricane. we only had one hurricane. and as i mention, nothing out there to track with the exception of the strong wave that is well out there in the atlantic. and then you go up the north carolina coast. this is another nor'easter rolling up the seaboard. and this is not good beach weather as we go new jersey southward down the coast. the forecast is cool and rainy
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and lots of clouds on the eastern seaboard. a lot of places are looking good, but for a lot of places on the eastern seaboard, not the best of beach days. back to you. the economy on the rebound, but americans are still losing jobs. with the nation's unemployment rate inching closer to 10%. coming up, hilda solice why, and what the obama administration is doing to support jobs. and support for jaycee dugard. we will have a live report straight ahead. you're good. thanks. so is our bike insurance. all the coverage you need at a great price. hold on, cowboy. cool. i'm not done -- for less than a dollar a month, you also get 24/7 roadside assistance. ght on. yeah, vroom-vroom! sounds like you ran a 500. more like a 900 v-twin. excuse me. well, you're excused.
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is welcoming back jaycee dugard after 18 years of being kidnapped. as many as 2,000 people gathered to march jaycee dugard's return. and that's great tape, gina, and nice to see the whole community coming together like that. >> absolutely, monica. this is a town that has been waiting nearly two decades to have this kind of celebration. among them, more than 2,000 people that came out to the parade was jaycee's former classmates and teachers and school principal. the stay's mayor, as well as some of the same police officers that searched for her 18 years ago. back in 1991, the community began a pink ribbon campaign to keep hope alive that jaycee would return. of course, since then a lot of people lost hope, and they have gotten discouraged and others
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moved on from the town. the overwhelming reaction at the parade is that people were stunned and happy to hear the news that she had been found. south lake tahoe is a small community that many lost its innocence with the kidnapping happened. now some say with the quote, unquote, miracle happening, it restored some of the faith. >> gina, thank you. it's back to school this week. there are new fears the swine flu could spread rapidly as students return to the classroom. there are more than 2,000 cases being reported at washington state university. the caseload is skyrocketing coast-to-coast. it's effecting at least 77 colleges already. from mississippi to kansas and virginia. the vaccine will not be available by next month. and we are joined by a professor
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of medicine. doctor, how concerned should parents be about sending their kids back to school? everybody is going back to school and it's out there? >> the concern is that when children are enclosed spaces and together for six to 12 hours a day, and that includes college kids, a great potential if one child is infected for him to cough or sneeze on other children and cause disease. we have seen in queens last spring, this swine flu goes to a population of kids like wildfire. >> when you are walking into the school, separate from college, what should you be seeing in common areas? the hand sanitizers? in my area, they set up hand sanitizers everywhere, and
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everybody had to wash up? >> that's a good school. there should be perell in the classrooms and wash rooms. children should be advised by their parents to wash their hands frequently. if a child has a upper regs respiratory infection, they should wear a mask. take precautions. the kids have to be aware of things. it's no longer the kid next to me is sneezing and coughing and has a high fever and is in class. there is going to be a lot of quarantining going on in a lot of plays. >> what about the vaccine? once the vaccine is out there in a month, that takes time to take
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hold. when do you know, okay, i am safe now? >> well, that's different because we have little clinical data. there will be two vaccine. everybody should get, every child and college kid should get the regular flu shot. and then the second vaccine will be available to a hierarchy of people, starting with pregnant woman, and with health care givers, and six months to say, 24 years of age children, and health care workers and emts and doctors and nurses and then people at risk, diabetes and etc. >> if you are on the list, you need to get the shot. >> get the shot. >> thank you. president obama gears up with his life speech to the students. up next, why the white house
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heavy criticism and the threat of boycotts, has no plans to cancel the speech. this time some people say president obama is pushing a socialists agenda on kids. >> i was bewildered by it. it's a whole some message. >> steve is the white house correspondent. let's get to the heart of this. there were critics talking about the president turning kids into lobbyist. and the controversy came from the pamphlet from the white house. this is how arne duncan explained this. >> some of the studies you sent out to the schools, at one point they suggested that they write
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letters to the president about how they could help him. i understand you have changed the wording in that? >> this was put out by teachers for teachers. there was one that was not worded correctly, and he was helping the student make his goals having a certain percentage graduate from college. >> what do you make of that. >> well, this is what somebody said this was a silly season. and i think it's more serious than that. this is a turning point in our politics, where a president giving a speech on seemingly innocent subject is going to be attacked and the attacks will have more resonance where schools will cancel that. in my home state we have a
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governor's race, and schools cancelled the speech by the democratic president will be under pressure not to let republican candidates to come in in the fall and speak to the students. i think it's polarized and partisan, it changed the role in public officials in the normally public venue. >> and the phrase was having them help the president hit the goal for the number of college graduates. >> that was a little tone deaf, not being aware of the politically poisonous atmosphere. they said they were going to help the president. by all accounts the education
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department wanted it to be a buy in to reach the graduation rates. and people don't say, gee, that's a mistake, let's get them to change the wording. it's ratcheted up to the highest level. and that has resonance now. and now usually that charge would go away in an hour or two, and it stays out there and lingers and affects things. >> great to talk to you, steve. thank you. more troops could be called to duty in afghanistan. and there are some questions about a hospital raid in the country. a bank refuses to cash a check for a customer because he could not provide a thumb print. you will not believe this story. we will have it coming up. . and helps you sleep, in a non-habit forming way.
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i am monica novotny. today iranian president, mahmoud ahmadinejad, says the country will continue the nuclear program. right now the international space station flight director is giving an update on the latest mission. "discovery" astronauts get down time today before preparing for the undocking. and shark heigsightings in cod. the beach closures were sparked by several shark sightings. sharks are common in summers, although great whites are rare around new england.
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and the white house is doing little to clear up the public option, only saying he will draw lines in the sand in his big speech on wednesday. >> now, it shouldn't define the whole health care debate, however. >> david axelrod there sending out an e-mail saying the white house is not backing away from the public option. and the leaders have seed they won't support a bill without a public option. mark walsh is a democratic strategist, and trip is is a republican strategist. we know the president will talk about the new appointment to a manufacturing czar, but in terms of health care will be this a test run on wednesday? >> i think it will be. people are realizing five out of the six of the committees that have a bill without the public option.
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there is a lack of by partisanship are holding up something that 70% of americans want. >> trip, there seems to be three options out there. the public option itself going in, or the trigger, we have been hearing about a trial balloon floated at the end of last week, the notion that you get the public option in, and first you give the private insurer to meet a benchmark, and then if they don't meet that then the trigger hits and you have the public option. and then the part of gang of six proposal, what do you think we will see? what gets the gop support? >> i am not sure. right now health care looks like it's in the emergency room. i don't know if it can be revived. whether it's a co-op or trigger. the standards will be set by the federal government. when you poll people and say do
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you want the federal government running your health care. it's about 30% that says that. i don't know where mr. walsh is getting his numbers. people do not want the government health care period. >> anyone of the options are not considered an option by the gop, then? >> the co-op model looks a lot like gsc. we saw that happened with freddie and fannie. it did not work. have the federal government under write the health care, who is setting the trigger? the federal government. and if you get olympia snow, it's really not a bipartisan bill. >> howard dean was saying the president has to show strength on this. let me play that clip. >> we already know this is going to be part of the fight in the senate. they are not going to be interested in helping put
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together something on the republican side. so i think he has to stand up and lead and be strong. what people value in a president is strength. >> mark, we previously heard from power dean saying if there was not a public option, then it's not health care reform? >> well, first of all, this is not a government-run program. the 70% that i talked about were the people that want the option. and calling it a government-run program is misleading. howard dean is right. the public option has to be part of this or health care reform will not happen. it's not reform we are talking about. it's the single most expensive chunk for many, many people. we have to fix this. obama's plan is an option and not a government-run program. i think wednesday's speech is
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important. i think today's talk is really important. it's an option and not government-run. i am sorry to hear so many right winged people describe it as something they have not. >> the white house have backed way off from the public option. they talk about choice and competition and the public option is one way to get at that but not the only way. >> let's take medicare. this is essentially a public option for people over 65. it's the worse-run program in the federal government. it's the largest unfunded liability in the federal government. we cannot reform it. i think people are very aware how the federal government approaches health care. it's run poorly. now we will run a medicare for all program, and i don't know how anybody thinks we can pay for it. to say it's right wingers, you
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are being not fair. >> we will have to let that be the last word. thank you. >> thank you. cleanup crews are on stand by watching for a possible oil spill from a sunk ferry. it sank yesterday morning killing at least nine people. rescue workers saved more than 900 people, but a search is under way for a missing passenger. common sense goes a long way. apparently it was in short supply when a bank refused to allow a man born without arms to cash his wife's check. why? because he could not provide a thumb print. they are here to share their frustrating story. it sounds like a joke when you read the headline. where is the common sense here. i have never been asked to provide a fingerprint, so i am surprised that was criteria. what did they tell you?
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>> well, the teller told me, well obviously you cannot give us a thumb print. i said, very good. she said let me come back and see what we can do. i stood there for five minutes or so and she came back and she said, well, i discussed this with my branch manager, and she discussed it with the back office. number one you can bring your wife in, or number two you need to open up a checking account with us. i said, no, no, neither of those are really acceptable. i don't mean to be difficult, but could i speech to the branch manager. ten minutes later she came out. i am standing next to the teller line. everybody was thinking that i was trying to forge a check or something, i am sure. and she gave me the same two options again. >> have you ever ran into this before at a bank. you had forms of identifications, and it's not just that you showed up and asked them to cash a check.
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>> yeah, it's common practice when it's not your bank to provide a thumb prinlt. yeah, they look at your two forms of id, and it's not a problem, and then you go about your business. >> let me say, bank of america issued an apology last week. we ha is there anything else that you would like to see happen here? >> i am still not of the belief that there are policies that accommodate in concert with federal law. i think they are leaving it up to discretion. >> you think they need to be more literal in terms of their policies? >> yeah, without a doubt. >> they made the statement that they had the policy for over a decade and this is the first time something like this has come up.
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come on? nationwide? i don't think so. >> thank you for sharing your story. sorry you went through that, but at least it has been resolved now. oprah winfrey shutting down three blocks this morning. why isn't everybody happy about it? the recession may be easing, but millions of americans are still out of work? and hilda solis joins us now and we'll ask her, where are those jobs? - hello. - hi! i'm finally going to get a flat panel for my home theater. - ( cheering ) - ( laughs ) thank you. what should i get? uh, you. you should check out our new leds. the picture's better than life. okay, but i don't want to pay too much. don't worry about it. we'll match those other stores' prices. and we'll deliver and hook it up for free. okay. last question.
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breaking down the hospital and tying up staff to look for militan militants. and jack jacobs is a military analysts. how do you think the developments will play in with the decision now? >> heavily. they will not affect politics inside afghanistan, where the place where all politics are local to quote the late tip o'neal. and it may have a very big effect. the perception is we are shoring up the central government not capable of handling politics outside kabul, that cannot defend against the bad guys and will be fraudulent to boot, i think especially going into an election cycle, it will be difficult for the government and white house to get support in the congress in particular to write the check for any additional troops or long-term
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commitment. >> is there a number that you think would be realistic? right now we are told we will be at 68,000 by the end of the year in afghanistan. is there an increase that could get through? >> i think mcchrystal is asking for another 10,000. two things about that. first, it probably is not enough. the real number is somewhere in the neighborhood of 100,000, which would be an additional 30,000 troops. and the distribution of the kinds of troops that we are looking for. you talked about troops possibly breaking down the doors of a hospital and all that stuff. we have conventional troops that needs more special operations forces, people sensitive to the development of local politics and local militias. the airborne soldiers and marines are good guys, but they need something different.
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>> colonel, good to see you. >> thank you. the latest snapshot of the job market came out a friday. the unemployment rate climbing to 9.7%. the highest in 20 years. since the recession began in december of 2007, 7.4 million jobs have been lost with the unemployment rate more than doubling. secretary solis is joining us now. 216,000 jobs slashed last month. 700 million jobs lost to the recession. you said there still likely will be more job losses? >> that's true. there may be. the economists are predicting it may go up to 10%. i want to remind people, we have
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been in the recession since december of 2007. since january, where we saw a job loss of 700,000 jobs leaving, we are now down to 216,000. that's not good enough, but we continue to be vigilant, working to get the recovery funds out. i am proud that we were able to hire just this summer 225,000 young people to work in our summer youth employment program. >> you also said the recession has done more damage than could be fixed in six months time. what kind of timeframe could you put this, then? >> it's going to take a while. it took a long time to get here. certainly, much of the recovery money has only just begun to hit the communities. we stopped job law. law enforcement officers and teachers and health care providers have actually been able to stay on the job. we hear from governors from different states, florida and new york, that are very supportive and saying if it was
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not for the recovery account money, we would have saw a higher number of unemployed. >> the taxpayers shelled out a lot of money. i know we heard vice president biden say that potentially another 500,000 to 1 million jobs would have been lost if it were not for that. and there are critics out there, especially republicans, that say we have not gotten the bang for our buck. >> yeah, that's interesting that we have nay sayers out there, and we inherited this problem that started long ago. we need to make sure that education and training programs are available, and freeing up credit so small businesses can expand their businesses. it's a major shift here. we will keep on it every day until we see the stop of jobs being lost here. >> you talked about the future
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jobs being green jobs. we saw over the weekend, the green job czar resigning. and on "meet the press" they said he showed his commitment to the cause by removing himself as an issue. what are your thoughts? >> i would concur. he obviously was helpful to many of us in the years past in helping to develop the concept of green jobs. now we have them. we actually see people being retrained from electricians to go into solar installation. i have seen many many evidence of these programs coming about to help people get in careers of renewable energy. it's something we all have to be involved in and we will continue to do that. >> thank you for your time today. it looks like prince harry is off the market again, and his latest gal pal is a familiar face. details on his relationship is just ahead.
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there is word today out of britain on the rekindelling of a relationship. the two are said to have had several heart-to-heart talks this summer. the 25-year-old prince was the one to put together the meetings in an attempt to win her back. the stretch of street will be closed for more than two days while a stage is constructed for a musical performance to kickoff the 24th season of the oprah winfrey show. we have the details. kim, first tell us, folks are
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not happy about the shutdown? >> reporter: a lot of people are concerned. this is a major artery through chicago. they literally closed it off to all traffic and all city buses. on a holiday, it's not that bad. come tomorrow, the actual taping of the show it could cause a lot of problem. this just smacks of elitism. many are expected to be a guest on the show. there is a lot of work to be done. that's why it's taking so long. but the merchants have not been upset because tourism have been down and retailers suffered for so long, it could bring foot traffic. and some say it's a ploy for
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chicago to be the set for the olympics. >> thank you. and the economy is taking a toll on travel this labor day holiday. that when we return. - here you go. - woman: my guys want two things on game day: football... and their favorite red baron pizza. announcer: with unbeatable prices on red baron pizza-- game time costs less at walmart. save money. live better. walmart. i've still got room for the internet. with my new netbook from at&t. with its built-in 3g network, it's fast and small, so it goes places other laptops can't. anything before takeoff mr. kurtis? prime rib, medium rare.
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