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muzzled. and you won't believe the money that is rolling in for his opponents, and now wilson is, too, trying to cash in. later the mystery deepens at yale in the search for medical student annie le. >> disappearing at ten clog a.m. in broad daylight, it doesn't get any weirder than that. >> the fbi is involved. le has not contacted her family or her fiancee who she is supposed to marry this sunday. we'll have a live report. plus the kid who impersonates animals. any other thing we thought you should know all this hour on msnbc. good afternoon, everyone. i'm in new york. good afternoon, david. >> hey, good afternoon to you. i'm david shuster live in washington. in the big picture at this hour, the memories of 9/11 are still fresh today. eight years after terrorists struck american soil, taking almost 3,000 lives. gray skies and a somber mood hung over remembered ceremonies

in new york, washington and pennsylvania. today president obama took part in his first memorials since taking office. >> it cannot diminish the pain and the loss of that day. no passage of time and no dark skies can ever dull the meaning of this moment. >> it was a solemn but deliberate speech at the pentagon. and the president vowed the nation will never falter in its pursuit of al qaeda. he placed a wreath at the site where 184 people died at the pentagon. earlier the president and mrs. obama held a moment of silence at the white house. nbc's mike viqueira is live at the white house. and there have been a lot of these ceremonies over the years. anything particularly different about how to obama white house handled it today? >> well, the weather befitted the somber tone. it is his first observance. 8:46 a.m., the time when the first plane struck the world trade center. both mr. and mrs. obama appeared on the south lawn of the white

house. the weather held up long enough for them to issue, to observe a moment of silence. they were joined by many of the white house staff. all of them donning their caps and standing in reverence for those who were lost on that day. then the president, a little later, got in his motorcade, made the trip across the river to the pentagon. you heard what he had to say at least in part there on the steps of the pentagon. he came back here. he was drenched incidentally when he went into the crowd and shook the hands of many of the men and women in uniform who were there observing that moment. he came back to the white house and then the president and first lady went out to habitat for humanity, a site in the northeast quadrant of washington, d.c. yesterday the president had deem today a day of remembrance and service, and consistent with that, both mr. and mrs. obama went to this habitat for humanity site. they were building some houses there. they went inside one of them and paint a living room wall, david. >> mike, a lot of meetings on capitol hill on the general for health care reform.

a lot of meetings today, this week. we had the president's speech. where does the white house think thing stand now on health care reform? >> i think overall, people are encouraged. democrats who backed this reform program. there is a certain element in the democratic party of hearing what they wanted to hear on that wednesday speech. especially in terms of the public option, dave. liberals worked very hard. the fact that the president supported it, while moderates heard a lot of wiggle room that encouraged them as well. the president heads to minnesota in minneapolis and the target center. he'll hold a rally style meeting. i'll largely highlight many of the things we heard on wednesday night. he will to go pittsburgh to speak to the afl-cio. that is expected to be a wide ranging speech but will also touch on health care. and then thursday he heads over to my alma mater, the university of maryland, where he will have yet another health care rally. they're trying to keep the hammer down. meanwhile, the gang of six of republican senators, max baucus who leads that group, talking

about moving ahead with or without republicans procedurally. he will unveil it next week and then start committee action the week after that. >> nbc' mike viqueira. thank you very much. the bigger picture, just 44 hours since that outburst and false claim by joe wilson during the president's speech to congress. the embarrass many on capitol hill and the anger across the country is continuing. more republican expressed frustration that wilson has refused to apologize in the well of the house chamber. and aides to house speaker nancy pelosi say that if wilson does not apologize to congress, the house will likely introduce a revolution of disapproval next week. with the campaign committee posting a petition pushing for a reprimand. saying it is time to stop the lies and misinformation on the uncivil disruptions. representative joe wilson went way over the line and congress should censure him immediately. that is their quote. the number of signers has been ticking up throughout the day today.

it is at about 50,000 people, according to the website. and meanwhile, donations are pouring in to wilson's campaign opponent. rob miller -- he did apologize to the chief of staff wednesday night but he said yesterday, it was prompted by a request from republican house leaders. they posted a new have you haddo saying, i will not be muzzle. wilson is appealing for support on his twitter page. he wrote, "over 8,500 americans are standing with me against the liberal attacks. join them." joining me to break it all down, james warren. >> we know rob miller figure they've released that. but wilson has not said how much money his campaign has brought in. if you look at the far right websites, they're calling him a great american hero. >> well, at the same time, given what you said about the reaction

today, i think the obama administration might be envious. if they can forge that on his rather unseemly taxes other night, i think they would be happy given all the republicans who are now sort of casting aspersions his way. that is fascinating trying to raise all this money, trying to make financial virtue out of necessity. inspired by his own political self-imlags. i don't doubt that he will raise a lot of money very quickly among folks in south carolina who buy into his instant important trail and victimization. do you believe that? quite remarkable that he is trying to turn it around on the democrats in the way he has. >> what does this portray on the debate on health care? is this representative of what is happening? is it just a continuation of the august town hall meeting? >> i don't want to overstate things. to the extent there might be a little bit of a window on to

what happened, it might be the obama administration, might have done a little better job of communication than as the summer went on, you had all these misperceptions out there. all these illusions. and it had to do with how this would impact illegal immigrants. obviously if they show up at an emergency room door, they're not going to be rebuffed. and i guess there is a chance that some illegal immigrants could buy themselves policies via one of these so-called exchanges. by and large, the thrust of what a lot of folks on the right are saying is absolutely erroneous. could the obama administration done a better job clearing it up? yeah. they could have. >> i would not if some of the democrats could have done a better job in how they handled it and i speak specifically of max baucus and the gang of six. they announced today because of the confusion, that they are going to toughen up the language in their bill to keep illegal alien provisions out of it.

it was perfectly clear in the three house committees that passed it. don't the democrats just feed into this idea that if the democrats fault when you have baucus and conrad saying, somebody spoke up so you'd better make it clear. >> i think it has been a problem but it is a problem of a democratic lower case d process in which you have all these committees coming one the different bills. and the so-called now famous gang of six is taking a very different tack. at least on the democratic side. could they have cleared up this confusion, yeah. could there have been a lot more clarity and transparency on the senate side oriole? definitely. >> look, the language is perfectly clear. we won't do anything different because we won't reward this clown who doesn't get it. that's a different issue. >> but you sit out here, guys, you listen to talk radio. the lack of clarity is absolutely head turning.

i'm not sure the facts will convince many people at this point. >> thank you very much. great talking to you. >> see you. >> so yeah, david, that's the other part of this. be separate and apart from congressman wilson's remarks and his behavior. whether it was a game changer as it was billed to be. not necessarily by the white house but certainly by the pundits and the people we're talking about. separate from this issue of health care for illegal ill grants, and the facts are that it was not included. is it a game changer? >> well, i think at the end of the day, the democratic party has a nasty habit of looking weak. in this particular case interesting bill was perfectly clear. congressman wilson was flat out wrong. there's nothing that says -- they're banned from getting benefits. so for the senators to say, oh, well because he claim it is unclear, we'll try to toughen up the language. it gives the guy credit and make the democrats look like it is their fault that they guy is acting like a clown.

and i just, i think a lot of democrats are scratching their head when they look at max baucus and ken conrad. a whole other rant for me today. we're going to take some time to remember the victim of the 9/11 terror attacks. mike mcginty is one of the thousands of people who lost his life on that day. mike was working on the 99th floor of the world tray center. his wife cindy joins us live. late senator ted kennedy played a special role in her personal tragedy on 9/11. and i wonder if could you talk about that and the relationship with ted kennedy and explain it to our audience. >> well, senator kennedy, after 9/11, call every single family in massachusetts to offer his condolences and to say that if there was anything the senator could do to be helpful to any of the families, he would be happy to help us. and right away, my family needed something. the navy couldn't fine mike's discharge papers and we wanted

an honor guard at his memorial service. and the senator's office was instrumental in straightening out the red tape. and then shortly after that, about a month later, the senator also organize a meeting in boston for all of the families, and it became clear right away that all of the families needed help sorting through the red tape and the senator's office was again helpful in putting together an have a casty program for all of the families. and also, the senator through the years kept in close touch with my family and many of the families that lost someone on 9/11, and was helpful over and over again to all of the families, and mine in particular, whenever problems arose and never forgot us. and never talked about any of the thing that he did publicly, but he was very, very helpful to all of the families. and we'll be forever grateful to him. >> cindy, when we show all the pictures of the politicians and the memorials, we ten to forget the personalities and the faces

of those actually killed that day. tell us a little about your late husband mike. >> mike was a great father. we have two sons. they're now 15 and 16. mike was a naval academy graduate. he served in the united states navy, and was honorably discharged as a lieutenant commander. he worked for march mcclennan. he was there on the 99th floor for a meeting that day. he adored his children and was a great dad. and like many of the people that day, was very involved in the church and his community. and since then, i've been active in my community and forever grateful that senator kennedy was very instrumental in passing in serve america bill. and very grateful to my good deed, an organization that has been instrumental in declaring 9/11 a national day of service and remembrance. >> that is very important. cindy, i don't live too far from

ground zero and many people today will go back for the first time since last year. it is still obviously, hallowed ground for us but there hasn't been a lot of movement as far as putting something there. how do you feel eight years later and seeing the status, which seem to be very slow? >> i try to let go of it. to me, there is a lot more important things. i think service to my country and to my fellow man is more important. i don't really have a lot of effect on ground zero. so i try to get more involved in my community. i think that the museum, when it is done, i have to believe that it will be a kind place to remember all of these people. but it is a service that we can do separate and apart from a location. >> it is. i think that on 9/11, america really turned out for all of us. people did things both large and small. and i choose to remember mike

and all those who died, and everything that people did that really promoted good feelings that day. and to call forth the energy that the country really turned out. it about the horrible people and what they did that day. is and they thought that they were going to keep us down and they didn't. people rallied around us. that's the feeling that we should be trying to generate and recreate. >> cindy mcginty, thanks so much for coming on and helping us remember mike at msnbc. we appreciate you coming on. >> if i could say one last thing forecast people go to serve.gov, they can find an opportunity in their neighborhoods close to home and go out and do something. not just today but every day. >> indeed. serve.gov. and also, if any of our viewers want to see more of the 9/11 coverage from today, you can go to msnbc.com.

you'll hear reflections from former bush administration officials in what it was like in the moments after the attack. you can see the website, the various memorials across the country. and coming up at the half-hour, we'll be join by former new york governor george pataki. he will talk about that issue that eight years later, the skyline in new york still reflects the view of al qaeda. and we'll be asking his views on security and how the obama administration has been handling it. he has been pretty outspoken in criticizing the obama administration. up next -- >> a bride to be has disappeared days before her wedding. how could a college student walk into a campus building and just vanish without a trace? >> plus, republicans are critical. the president's health care plan kofl health care reform actually be unconstitutional? not really. but that's our face-off today. some of the claims from the right. we'll talk about it. i'm here on this tiny little plane, and guess what... i've still got room for the internet.

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the search is on for a missing bride at yale university. >> she is annie le and she vanished on tuesday. she was due to be married this sunday. in fact, surveillance cameras showed her walking into a research lab but never coming out. the fbi has joined the investigation and nbc' reporter is on the yale campus in new haven, connecticut. if they have surveillance cameras and they captured her going in, it is logical they would see her going out. >> yeah. a weird coincidence, it appears. a fire alarm went off inside this building three hours after

she was seen going in. so let me lay it out for you. it is tuesday morning, 10:00 a.m. that surveillance photo you just saw is taken. the last image of annie le. she is in the research lab. she is inside and three hours later at 1:00 p.m., a fire alarm goes off so everyone inside the research lab evacuates. a whole hordichuk of people coming out. and you can see they are grainy images. she could make her out -- they could not make her out on camera. so there is no videotape. they don't know if she was inside. they don't know if she left or when something happened because of that fire alarm. the question is, was the fire alarm a mere coincidence? was it a ruse in this is all something investigators are looking into. a 24-year-old annie le set to be married this weekend on long island, new york, to her fiancee, jonathan. police do not believe he is involved in her disappearance. he is now here involved in the

search. joining with the police and the fbi. the fbi, we've seen, has already been on the scene for about a day and a half now. sifting through dumpsters, questioning students. and their involvement. beginning to raise suspicion among students that this may not be a runaway bride situation. this is something perhaps much more serious. >> thank you very much. and david, you've pointed out earlier, when we did this report prg area where the lab is, is not considered one of the safest areas in that community. >> yeah. it is not a safe area sxhfl how is it that she was on the surveillance video going in but not coming out? that part is also, just hard to put together. >> very scary. when we come back on the big picture, paula abdul was one of the 97.1% of -- she is one of the american now looking for a job. >> but she found a new job and we'll show you how. it might make you say no way. you like your health coverage, but worry what happens...

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there are a lot of thing that could be considered news in this world. >> but, david, there are only a few stories that playing us say -- no way! >> it looks like paula abdul has landed a new job hosting a show. well, okay. it really didn't happen but the prommer is moving really fast so i can't keep up. she is apparently working for vh 1, the divas. no need to reverse it. let just play it. >> what sort of job do you want? >> something glamorous. >> a financial analyst? >> paula never talks about money. >> proctologist? >> please, no more [ bleep ]. >> vh 1 needs a host for divas. i have to be up front about this though. we already sent someone out on

it. this guy named ryan seacrest. >> this is my gig. >> she's keeping her sense of humor. as we reported, the person who has the gig now for american idol, talk show host ellen degener degeneres. we talked about it yesterday. >> always good sometime, sometime to have a designated driver. but be if they are only 6 years old. a pennsylvania woman is being held on $15,000 bond after police caught her in the passenger's seat and her young daughter behind the wheel. she told police she was teaching her daughter how to drive. based on a call the youngster made to her aunt, police are not so sure. >> the aunt asked the little girl, was mommy smoking the smelly stuff again? and the little girl applied yes. >> maybe the picture was also the clue from that. in any case, dui and to know college tests were not conduct

on the woman because she was not behind the wheel. >> the smelly stuff, could it be cigarettes? >> i guess it could be. >> i don't know. >> special cigarettes. >> ignoring mom's advice to stop acting out is paying off for a ninth grader for a girl from canada who like to monkey around. 14-year-old michael gets paid. he gets paid to act like an animal. he was discovered this summer while making monkey noises at a local festival. he is now doing animal sounds for an animal series being produced in france. and mimicking monkeys is not his only talent. he has mastered an angry about a boone and a dog and a baboon. here it is. remind you of your childhood? >> i still like to make animal sounds. that's one of the things we do. >> a roar! >> that's good.

>> how old is he? howl did they say he was? 14. he'd better stop that by 18 or i don't know if he'll be getting any dates, climbing trees like that. but he is cute. what was that? >> a hawk. >> up next -- >> up next in the big picture, we're about to get tough again. health care reform. is it unconstitutional? >> that is the claim coming from the right these days. minnesota governor tim pawlenty is joining them. is that very smart? plus the iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at then george w. bush will be released on monday. wait until you hear what might be waiting for him. your body needs sleep to feel healthy... to feel better. tylenol pm quiets the pain that keeps you awake. and helps you sleep, in a non-habit forming way.

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the tenth amendment to the constitution as a mean to trying to block federal health care reform. >> that's right. responding to a call here asked him about it on a republican governor's conference call last night. here's what governor pawlenty said. if you're a little rusty on the constitution, here's what it says. the one little problem with the argument is that other parts of the constitution that's called article 1.

that mean it unambiguously authorizes congress to spend money in ways it benefits the nation. social security, veterans care, et cetera, et cetera. what are they really up to? here to face off, strategists. ron, most people in their right thinking mind. simply trying to appeal to the right wing fringe and get ready for a run in 2012. >> david, right wing, fringe republican. you know, i agree with you. as a lawyer, if you look at article one interesting general welfare clause to me seem very explicit on its face that congress does have the ability to regulate, to lay taxes, and it would seem to me looking at medicare, medicaid interesting united states government has spent trillion of dollars in health care-related expenses. so he is very disgruntle by what president obama is doing but as

a lawyer and one observing this, i think they're on the wrong foot here. >> is it wise? this is a pure political question. is it wise politically to make his appeal to the right with this? >> i don't think so, david. i think again, you can take issue and exception with this administration on a wide variety of issues. but going to the tenth amendment and saying these powers are not specifically delegate to the federal government and therefore it should be a state issue falls flat on its face. it doesn't make sense to me. >> so in a move like this, you would think this would be called a great week for the democrats and they can move forward in this and those moderate democrats, i don't know. everybody, come on home and hug one another and come up with something to put on the table here. >> well, i want to point out that this is a momentous occasion. that actually, ron and i agree on something. this has never happened before. breaking news on msnbc. i'm going to let that pass. i think part of what the democrats need to continue to do is to point to these kinds of

ridiculous ideas. essentially saying they're going to use the constitution of the united states of america to actually take away choice from people in the state of minnesota in terms of their health care is pretty ridiculous. so certainly, you know, i think the democrats could be doing a far better job and i think the president actually started up on that path on wednesday. and pointing out just a number, any number of these outlandish, ridiculous comments. these kinds of proposals that the republicans are putting forward. essentially, part of the whole argument that you've heard from republicans in term of the opposition to the public option is, that it is not fair. when is the republican party ever been opposed to competition in the marketplace? that's sort of a fundamental tenet of capital i. they're saying we should trust the insurance company the way we were to trust the big banks on wall street. i think it is for democrats to be a little harder and tougher

on that. >> your view? >> i think if we want a more vigorous and spirited debate on health care, that's something we would disagree on. i think the republicans have put forth a number of vigorous ideas. hr 34 -- >> when? >> it was sponsored and introduced by congressman tom price from georgia. there are a number of good ideas in that. one of the thing that i think would help get a number of people in the health care role, the ability to buy insurance across state lines. i think that's a very smart idea. if you look at the bill that have been introduced in the senate by senator bennett and ron widen, i don't necessarily agree with the tenets but there are a number of bipartisan pieces addressing the health issues. the commonality the republicans say, the public option is not a good option. it is something that will bankrupt this country. but there are many, many viable alternatives to ensure people who don't have health insurance, coverage, on to the rolls. >> the president made clear on wednesday night, his proposal would incorporate a number of republican ideas. and i think the democrats and the president in particular has

always been open to incorporating republican ideas. when you look at thing like what tim pawlenty that, it becomes once again very clear that the republican agenda has nothing to do with insuring quality of affordable health care for americans. it has to do with the political agenda in trying to damage this president politically and make political gains in 2010. >> let me say this. for the last time, where is the president's plan? the president talked about his plan. there has not been one specific piece of legislation that has been released by the white house that lays out very clear, articulate manner. this is what a president obama is for. this is where he will draw the line. >> that is for congress to draw legislation. >> that's weak. >> that happens to be the wait works. >> no, it's not. i don't know if you've ever work in the white house. i have. >> actually i have. a longer period than you have. >> president bush outline for his tax cuts, for his no child left behind, various piece of legislation to the hill. here's my document. congress, here's what i expect.

president obama has abdicate his leadership. >> republicans have abdicated their leadership by whining and crying, democrats control everything and we cannot get anything done rather than stepping up to the plate with serious ideas. >> actually, karen -- >> we have to leave it there. the one person who has abdicate his judgment is tim pawlenty. for him to try -- >> the crazy tentz amendment stuff is really unbelievable. in any case, thank you so much. we appreciate it. and what do you think drives people to come one this whacky ten amendment thing? it is not true. >> we've been asking that question about the birthers, the truthers, the deathers. anything that ends with an er. i don't know. i'm not a member. i'm baffled as well. but i was fascinated though, speaking of crazy. there was a conversation on "morning joe" and governor pawlenty had a difficult time admitting the death panels were not true. so it seem he has a strategy.

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eight years after the worst ever terror attack on american soil, how safe are we now? according to a new national poll, concern about another attack is roughly half of what it was immediately after 9/11. in fact, look at the number. 34% of those questioned in the cnn research poll think a

terrorist attack is likely in the next few weeks. 64% say it is not likely. that's almost the reverse of the figures immediately following the 9/11 attacks. >> meantime, another poll shows americans still think the republican party, rather than the democratic party krk better protect the united states from a terrorist attack. the republican party gets the edge, 49-42% in the gallup poll. in 2003 interesting republican party health a 50-31% so that's tightened just slightly. joining me now, republican governor george pataki. he served as governor for three material, from 1995 until 2007. i want to talk about your views on security in a moment. first eight years after 9/11, the lower manhattan skyline still reflects the wishes of al qaeda. the freedom tower rebuilding effort continues to have problems. most americans find the delays to be shameful. do you agree? >> no, not at all. the important thing is not that it was done yesterday, although i would have liked it. the important thing is that it

be done right. you mentioned the freedom tower. very few people want to see that built after september 11. there was a tremendous sense that we would be attacked again and we couldn't rise to the heights we were at on september 11, 2001. and others said that's nonsense. we're americans. we're sbil to live in freedom. it is 100 feet above the street level. the steel is about 80% complete. as mayor bloomberg said wednesday night, it is on schedule and under budget and will be done september 11, 2011. and let me tell you, that is a brilliant design that will be, if not one of the most emotional and important sites visited in north america over the course of the next century. so we've done this. and we've done it right. not so that we can brag about it last week. so that next year, and future generations to come, would understand what happened on september 11, would understand its meeting. would understand the sacrifice that new yorkers and other americans and people from around

the globe made on that day. that is important. >> i hear you. governor, any idea why they changed the name then and got rid of the name freedom tower? >> to me, that's disappointing. they're now officially calling it one world trade center. one of the towers was the one world trade center. my office, my first three years i was governor was the one world trade center. just as the footprints are sacred and hallowed ground, they will have pool reflecting the losses, i think that name should not be used again will but i think among the public, when they see this building, they're going to look at it soaring to heights we've never seen before and say that is the freedom tower. >> i want to get you this research poll. how people feel about our safety. do you believe we are less safe? explain your statement and why you say that. >> no, i think we are more safe than we were september 11, 2001. >> do you believe this administration is keeping us safe? the current administration? >> i believe they are making some mistakes. >> what are the mistake you

believe? >> first if you look back over the eight years since september 11, there were global attacks by terrorists. everywhere from england to turkey to algeria to bali. all around the globe. we were not attacked. and you can't just say it is because people got tired of attacking us. they wanted to attack us again but our policies worked. since the last seven or eight months, we've seen an he said to the interrogation techniques, not torture but enhanced interrogation that allowed to us stop conspiracies that were aimed at taging us. we've seen detainees at guantanamo bay released. and we know -- >> the cia just released information that said these enhanced interrogation techniques did not provide information. that some of the information was provided through normal technique. >> some of the information was. and by the way, speaking of the cia, when you look at september 11, one of the major problems was a failure of intelligence. people did not see it coming. and we need an aggressive and

intelligent and confident information service like the cia. to have our own justice department investigating cia officers who have done their best to protect our freedom, i think certainly hurts the morale of the cia. it has a chilling effect on their willingness to do what they have to do. >> they vealated clear guidelines. in these specific cases. >> i'm glad you've seen the results of the investigation. but i believe it is still underway. >> right. but the investigation is underway. they haven't indict anybody yet and they're simply going after people who were given very clear guidelines and operated outside those guidelines. why is that a problem? >> why don't you ask leon panetta. as you know, he argued very strenuously and he is a democrat but he is an american first, as we all should be, americans first. and he thought that even understanding what the justice department was saying, that it was a very bad move to investigate our cia officers.

i happen to agree with the director. i happen to agree with the vast majority of the american people that we need a cia that is looking at those who want to attack us, instead of looking over their shoulder at our own justice department. >> former governor george pataki. it is always fun having you on. >> thank you. >> i get the sense that governor that pataki may be considering 2012. >> he's right here. >> everybody is talking about 2010 and i'm focused on 2009. we have mayor elections here in the city. we have other elections. and by the way, i don't think we quite see the same view going forward into 2010 but i hope the republicans win back the house and win some senate seats. 2012 is eons away. >> but i and i both know if you want to run for 2012, you have to start building up a campaign three or four years in advance.

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