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next on "msnbc saturday," nuclear nightmare or not? what's the white house been told about iran's alleged nuclear ambitions and do we all need to worry? also ahead, subway shootout. a mad scramble for life begins when a graffiti artist opens fire. plus it's the h2 o -- when a tornado hits a crowded cafe. good morning, everyone, i'm alex wit, we have a lot to bring you this morning, along with the suspect in the murder of that yale college student. first we go to politics and president obama's attempts to bring you the message.
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he sits down with david gregory tomorrow on "meet the press." the president session jimmy carter was wrong to bring charges of racism into the health care debate. i'm joined by nbc's mike vick ker are at the white house. >> reporter: he's trying to push for his health care plan, it's been going on in fits and starts, as you know, last saturday we had the pleasure of talking about his rally in minneapolis. where he tried to tried to rally the faithful and there were about 15,000 people there cheering him on. just the other day, it was nearby here at the comcast center where he had a similar rally. told virtually verbatim the same a anecdotes his told the
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minneapolis. he heads into a very dicey period now in congress. but with those five interviews that he did yesterday, they were all conducted yesterday and they're all going air tomorrow, five interviews for the sunday morning shows and the question that's really emerged and the answer that has emerged so far and the clips that have been released so far are about racism, including the famous you lie shot by joe wilson. the white house has been very careful to say they don't see racism as the motivating factor behind all this criticism. here's what president obama told david gregory yesterday on this issue. >> i said during the campaign, are there some people who still think through the prism of race when it comes to evaluating me and my candidacy? absolutely. sometimes they vote for me for that reason, sometimes they vote against me for that reason. that was true during the campaign, i think that's true now. i think you actually put your
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finger on what this argument's really about and it's an argument that's gone on for the history of this republic, and that is what's the right role of government? >> reporter: the president and the white house would air force basely rather be talking about the particulars of this health care plan and that media blitz flooding the zone as you pit it, alex, continues on monday. he heads to new york city to speak before the united nations assembly opening, but will take a detour to taimes square where he will speak to david letterman. >> and you can all watch david gregory's entire interview with president obama. representative joe wilson says even though he's raised nearly $2 million for his re-election campaign since shouting "you lie" at president obama. his outburst was not worth it. >> absolutely not. it was speaking at the wrong place, wrong time. and now i'm the number one
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target of washington democrats, number one target of move on, number one target of a.c.o.r.n. and, hey--but, hay, i trust my constituents, i have never taken them for granted and i'll work hard to justify their vote next year. that is my life, supporting the people of south carolina. >> a little emotional there. wilson also says he's thankful that president obama accepted his apology. police in connecticut say they may never know the motive in the killing of a yale university grad school student. the only person who knows about the murder of annie le is the murder. police took dna samples from him. le's body was found behind a wall in the place where she worked. police say they are working through the evidence. >> we have a lot of stuff still going to the lab. it could take us someplace else with an additional suspect.
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or it may not. and so i just don't know. but there is no pending arrest. >> clark's bond is set at $3 milli million. he had not entered a plea. fbi agents are expected to question again today a man at the center of a high profile terrorism investigation. naji zazi's attorney says his client has never met with an al qaeda operative and was never involved in terrorism. dramatic video of a deadly subway shooting in mexico city when a man was confronted for writing graffiti on the subway. he pulled out a pistol and opened fire. subway riders scrambled to get away, one person tries to subdue the gunman but he is shot as he tried to grab the gun. police are there trying to
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apprehend the suspect and then kill him. let's go on to the weather here at home. a huge storm could drop significant amounts of rain across the south today. on friday the rain rapidly filled up the streets of memphis. you can see several cars are clearly damaged. in alabama the heavy rain forced authorities to close several states and even caused the base of a house to collapse. that's a mess. more rain today, bill? at least there. >> it's raining there. i would like to ask you my unofficial poll. today's the last official weekend of summer, do you care or not care? >> i do care. i love the fall in new england, but i do care. >> let's talk a little bit more about the rain, those amazing pictures that you did show down in alabama, we'll probably be able to show you more pictures tomorrow from today because it's raining heavy. all of alabama, especially the
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northern half of the state is just getting a drenching out there. look at all that rain from birmingham northwards to huntsville and now it's shifting northward too. atlanta, just some showers in and around but you'll have more wet weather today. here's the forecast, the southeast, that's the wet spot, the showers, the thunderstorms, to the north of that, picture perfect, splendid, beautiful, use your adjectives. ideal fall weather conditions on this saturday. the only catch, later on today for the first time, northern new england, freeze warnings for portions of the adirondacks and for all our friends out west, i know you love to say hi to, it looks like it's going to be a little cooler today, but it's going to be hot. they're going to welcome in fall and it's going to be warm the upcoming week. >> thank you very much for that. the southern downpours are headed north this weekend and we're going to find out where they're headed by visiting our
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website weather.com. and stick around because bill will be back too. there's renewed hope about the economy today, first up there's new direction down on wall street. stocks capped the week up about 2%. also this week, retail sales posting their best dpans in 3 1/2 years. but some analysts say that the gains do not necessarily signal that consumers are ready to spend. let's say good morning to vera evans. is the market moving in a positive direction to see that happen? >> definitely. the economy is looking better. we have those positive reports in the retail sector. sales are up more than 3%, we haven't seen that in a very long time. so that was good. we also had some analyst upgrades, that fueled hopes that the recovery is happening. >> how many times have you and i gone through this? we see incrememental rallies, and we think, okay, great, but is that sustainable? >> every time you see increases like that, you could see indexes
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take a major hit by about 10%, that would likely be possible, but going forward next week, we do have a lot of data that could potential move the markets. we have a lot of stuff that will move the markets next week. >> and retail sales, they have been up fastest pace in the last 3 1/2 months. does this mean the consumer is back? >> not back whole heartedly, we have definitely changed our ways. some analysts are saying we're never going to go back to the way we were where we buy anything and everything. but the numbers are good, it does suggest that they're coming out of the foxholes. it was crotch moacross most of sectors so it was a positive number all the way around. coming up how bad could the economy be if someone's paying
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thousands and thousands of dollars to have dinner with sarah palin. we're going to fill you in on the money and the meal. also ahead there could be more fame and fortune for kate goslin. up next, a rare storm story, a twister caught on tape slamming into a crowded cafe. you're watching "msnbc saturday." tylenol 8 hour works with your body, with one layer that dissolves quickly... ...one layer that lasts all day ...and no layers that irritate your stomach the way that ibuprofen can. it's tough on your body pain. not on your body. so we can save on all our game time favorites. and if there is a better price out there, they'll even match it. which means come game time... ...i'm just as ready as he is. game time costs less at walmart. save money. live better. walmart.
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mother nature's fury, a rare tornado in spain is caught on tape. but beyond the images of the funnel, security cameras at that cafe show you when the twister tore off part of its roof. and considering what happened, the people didn't seem to be that alarmed. but one man inside was trapped under debris and was rescued by other diners. only two people suffered just minor injuries.
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to politics now, president obama is going for a complete media saturation this weekend all in an effort to up the popularity for his health reform plan. i'm joined by the white house reporter for "the washington post." good morning to you. >> good morning to you. read your article about the media blitz that you wrote about in today's "washington post" and on "washington post".com. what are the arguments for and against this type of all out media campaign? >> the white house looked at what happened in august when the president didn't completely lie low but did somewhat and then he went on vacation and the health care debate really stalled. now he's back and their belief which we saw with the speech he gave to congress about a week and a half ago, is that the more the public hears from him directly, the better he'll do on health care and everything, that he remains as popular as he did around the election and that he is still the driving force behind the elections so we have seen him not just doing these five shows tomorrow, which will be wall to wall coverage, but also traveling around the
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country, giving a number of big speeches this past week, and then on monday night he'll be on letterman. but the argument against it, the republicans said, look, in the latest "washington post" poll, the more people heard about the health care plan, the more they heard specifics, the less they like it. but in general, the white house thinks it's a good thing. >> i'm going to leave that there with regard to the discussion on overexposur overexposure. the president looks ahead to next week's g-20 summit and he says that the economy is looking better than the last time the g-20 came together. >> we can now say that we have stopped our economic free fall. but we also know that stopping the bleeding isn't nearly enough. our work is far from over. we know we still have a lot to do here at home to build an economy that's producing good jobs for all those who are looking for work today. >> you think the president can convince americans that the economy is really looking up
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when the jobless numbers are still so horrific? >> no. and i think the white house knows that. that's why even when they point to the larger macronumbers that are doing better, some of the indicators, the leading indicators that are showing hopeful signs, they are careful to not to say they have achieved everything they want to do and return to the plate of actual people. that's why this past week, even though he did a big financial speech, he also went to a car plant in youngstown, ohio and talked about actually people and the cars they can make. they're not going to be crowing about their accomplishments completely until those jobless numbers have turned around. >> and i want to look at the health reform bill and the olympia snowe factor, because if she signs on to the bill right now, does she have the political weight and the political savvy to bring other republicans with her? >> not with her diplomatic skills, but she could give some cover, but not a great deal.
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at this point it's going to be substantive, and that's what the negotiations are about. i don't think that since she's on board there's suddenly going to be a flood of republicans. >> ann cornbleau, as always, thank you. for your doaily dose of all things political, you can log on to firstread.msnbc.com. now we take you to a fruit stand, still. this is how it looked in albuquerque after a semitruck carrying loads of fruit hit a highway median. talk about a mess there. it still stopped traffic in both directions, fortunately no one husband hurt, but there were a lot of pieces of bruised fruit. okay, but i don't want to pay too much. don't worry about it. we'll match those other stores' prices. and we'll deliver and hook it up for free. okay. last question. if you guys are here, who's in the stores? the latest home theater technology
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injuries after a chain reaction accident involving 26 motorcycles. it backed up traffic for at least five miles. police say those motorcycles all from the same group collided into each other when a car made a sudden stop. fbi agents in denver are expected to question again today a colorado man at the center of a high-profile terror investigation. naji zazi has admitted to attending a terror training camp in pakistan and that he had contacts there with associates of al qaeda. jonathan dean is an investigative reporter with msnbc's wnbc station here in new york and jonathan joins me on the phone. good morning. >> good morning. >> what's new in this case this morning, jonathan? >> the news is that he's going to be back at fbi headquarters in denver for the fourth day to answer questions. there's been these ongoing talks for the last three days about what did he know and did it involve any sort of terror plot
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here in the united states. certainly with his travels overseas to pakistan to attend that training camp, they saw what sources say and what he allegedly said in his debriefing that raise a lot of concern, and then he comes back to denver, he travels to new york, metes with several people in new york that raised a lot of concern among new york and federal officials and that's why they conducted those raids and in those searches they uncovered backpacks, they found how to make bomb instructions and other videos that showed some sub -- officials continue to say they don't know and continue with their investigation. >> when you start describing backpacks and subway line maps of course what comes to mind are the successful attacks in both spain and london, madrid, do you
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think that's along the lines of what this alleged terror attack was see supposed to be like? >> they don't know and that's why they're conducting this vechsz. they're concerned that something big might have been in the works, they don't know what it is. and that's why they were questioning mr. zazi and that's why they're following and taking a look at several people in the queens area as well as four or five people in the denver area. no one has been charged, no one is in custody and mr. zazi continues to be questioned. but certainly there is concern based on some of the transitions, the traffic, the intercepts along with questioning mr. zazi that raise s their concerns that there is a group of people out there who are planning to do something. these raids, these searches took place in the very early stages of this investigation.
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and it's entirely possible there will be no charges out of all of this. senator schumer called it preventative raids to what might have been going on. unclear where we move forward, if and when criminal charges might come. the investigations continue. >> okay, and jonathan, quickly we know that a spokesperson for zazi's attorney says he was allowed to go home last night. do we know -- first of all the fact that he's allowed to go home at all says something about the investigation. but is he under surveillance? do we know for example where he is right now. >> we know that the fbi and the nypd and other law enforcement sources are not only following, taking a look at mr. zazi around the clock, but they are looking at others in the queens, new york, neighborhood where these searches took place and in denver. there's been a large operation that is ongoing, 24 hours a gay, seven days a week right now, until they get the answers in this case.
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obviously theif there was sometg that they could charge zazi with, they would have done it. up until -- it will be interesting to see where these talks go, and whether they become plea talks and whether it results in criminal charges. zazi's lawyers are saying he's not going to be charged. we'll see where it goes from here. a moment, the worry around the world, iran with nukes, is this country really developing weapons of mass destruction? the latest answer may surprise you, here on "msnbc saturday." . with unbeatable prices on maybelline pulse perfection mascara, beauty costs less at walmart. save money. live better. walmart.
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go to iran now where friday marked the first time since mid-july massive new protests took place. tens of thousands took to tehran's streets, many of them wearing green, the color of iran's reform movement. the rally came on the same day as iran's annual anti-israel rally. at the same time iran's president is gearing up for what could become the first significant talks between iran and the u.s. in 30 years set to take place in just a few weeks. msnbc's anne curry asked president ahmadinejad about that. >> what do you want from the united states. >> today a new arrangement should be put in place based on new principles so that this is directed toward peace and tranquillity. we have always believed in talking, in negotiating, that is our logic, nothing has changed. >> the interview will air in it's entirely this sunday september 20 at 1:00 p.m. eastern time on msnbc.
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and today a new report in "newsweek" that u.s. intelligence agencies are telling the white house iran has not restarted it's nuclear weapons development program. joining me is msnbc contributor and investigative reporter for "newsweek." let's talk about the new reports out this week on iran's nuclear capability. because the a.p. says an undisclosed international atomic energy report says that iran has developed the technology to create a nuclear weapon. in your article, it says they're not restarting their nuclear weapons program. do we really know what's going on inside iran right now? >> the short answer is no and that's the problem. the u.s. intelligence is extremely limited on the precise status of iran's nuclear program. we know there's a nuclear program, we know they're
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enriching uranium, we don't know if it is close do acquiring a nuclear weapon. cia director leon panetta gave a very interesting interview so the voice of america just today in which he emphasized this point and he said, our view is intelligent -- our intelligence is that they are proceeding to develop a nuclear capability in terms of power, but there's still very much a debate going on within iran as to whether or not they ought to proceed further. and panetta is saying that could provide an opening for negotiation. so in spite of all the talk and all the concern, a lot of it legitimate, about iran's nuclear program, here we have the top u.s. intelligence officials saying that the best u.n. intelligence can figure out is that iranians are debating within themselves as to whether to take things to the next step
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to develop a nuclear within. >> okay, what about the downsizing of proposed missile defense system under the bush administration that we saw, the steps taken this week to do that, it was as a way to protect against possible iranian missiles, that was the bush administration intention there. is this all a possible outreach to iran in some way? >> actually it's part of a concern, continued concern about iran and switching the purpose of missile defense from some sort of vague russian threat which was never well defined since the end of the cold war, to what american officials and western officials view as a more likely threat and that is capability from iranian missiles. so that makes sense if you're going to use missile defense, aim it at or direct it at the country that seems to be the greatest threat.
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>> iran's also agreeing for the first time in almost 30 years to talk with the u.s. the u.s. seems to be staying the course in welcoming these talks despite other transgressions by the regime, will any real progress be made on these discussions? >> very hard to owe, the iranians are insisting that president ahmadinejad made the comments he did to ann curry, but at the same time he gave this incredibly inflammatory speech yesterday in tehran in which he once again called the holocaust a lie and said it was the religious duty of every iranian to destroy the zionist regime in israel. israel is a u.s. ally, one can understand why the israelis would be concerned when they hear this kind of rhetoric from a country that does have a nuclear program and it makes it yet harder for the obama administration to try to develop a relationship of trust with
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iran. >> and ahmadinejad will be at the u.s. this next week, as he takes the world stage, you combine that with what we will expect to see with these talks. if we see little give and take from iran, ultimately, michael, what happens next. >> well, there's clearly political pressure within the united states, within the congress to ratchet up sanctions against iran, secretary clinton has pretty much said the same thing, and has warned the iranians that if we don't get progress on the nuclear front, if they don't agree to greater inspections from -- with the international atomic energy agency, if they don't become more compliant, that they're going to face sanctions, that would probably just inflame the situation further. the iranians, whether or not they would aaccede to the
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anations is not a bright picture. it doesn't appear like there's much grounds for optimism on this front at all. log on to "newsweek".com to read the entire article on iran's nuclear capabilities. well, actor danny glover is weighing in on u.s. relations with cuba. the actor was asked if he thinks obama will bring a change to the relationship between the u.s. and cuba. >> i would think that everything is possible and i want to believe that the change that obama has talked about has embraced the change that he campaigned on, includes that change as well. >> recently, president obama renewed thei u.s. embargo againt cuba for another year. a sobering look now at the state of our children. there are nearly 13 million
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children living below poverty level. 39% of the nation's children live in low income homes. bill cosby and a panel of distinguished leaders will come together right here on msnbc to discuss ways to help our children move from poverty, to an education and subsequent success. this special live event airs this sunday starting at 7:00 p.m. eastern time and dr. bill cosby says this could spark real change in communities across the country. >> while this program is on, have people picking up the phone and saying to a relative, to a loved one, to a brother, sister or someone, turn it on. this is about so-and-so, this is about such and such. and to tell them where we can go to get things fixed and they're also telling us how important this is. maybe you ought to tell that person to call up also.
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this is the kind of thing that needs to happen. >> joining me live is terrell bradford, director of education for everyone, good morning, terrell. i'm glad you're here to talk about this, i know you're going to be participating in the panel about our children. what is the mission for this special? >> you know, i think at two levels, you know, one thing we want to do is sort of identify the problems, obviously, you know, poverty being the primary one, and talk to america about how poverty doesn't know any color, there are plenty of low income african-americans, hispanic and white people in this country who sort of suffer from the same issues and the same challenges. and also, and this is really important, we want to talk about solutions, the best possible ways to get kids better educational opportunities, how to deal with depression, deal with nutrition, the really sort of empowerment side and the
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institutional side of breaking poverty. >> what do you say to families out there when it comes to getting a good education. >> i don't think you can say enough about every individual family's sort of obligation to make education a priority. from my perspective individually, i really want parents to reexamine their relationships with their local schools and school districts. you know, we have thousands of children all over this country who whether or not their parents or whether or not they care about education, go to some of america's worst schools and as much as we have to demand that parents take education seriously, we really need to get more options, more sophisticated response from our state, local and federal officials on the kind and caliber of education we're giving our needily
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students. >> this is a great idea, you have gotten the discussion going. you just mentioned some things you want to see happen. but what is your priority, if they want to become activists to help out this problem, what do people do. >> there's two tiers of this, one is the independent women's forum and michelle bernard who's presenting this, they're sort of organizing a very detailed web presence afterwards on twitter, on facebook, because we want this to be the first day of the revolution, most of the time you do these sorts of things and people are engaged, they're fired up, they're exciting and then everything just goes away, so that's important. particularly on the education side, i work on school choice and we work on the immediacy of getting kids into better schools tomorrow not in two weeks or whatever. it's important for people to understand that these changes will not happen overnight. this is a real commitment to change america in a lot of ways
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and it is catalyzed by low income people who are sort of the victims or who are missing the opportunity of this, and it requires a long detailed engagement that middle class people and wealthy people are used to in dealing with their government but low income people usually around. >> terrell bradford, we're going to see much more of you tomorrow night. watch "about our children" right here on msnbc starting sunday at 7:00 p.m. eastern. it's a two-hour program that will be important for you and your family. (announcer) time brings new wisdom new aches and pains, ...and new questions about which pain reliever is right for your body. tylenol 8 hour works with your body, with one layer that dissolves quickly... ...one layer that lasts all day ...and no layers that irritate your stomach the way that ibuprofen can.
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deal for health care reform. he'll appear in five separate interviews tomorrow and on monday he'll be the first sitting president to visit the late show with david letterman. i'm joined by amanda carter, and liberal blogger adam green, founder of the progressive change committee. we'll do ladies first here, amanda, today's tv audience is spread out over competing networks, countless cable channels and the media network. is. >> i think it's a very risky straty for the president to tout his message. that is a lot of air time to fill and these are seasoned, experience journalists and there's a good chance that health care won't be the dominant story, you have nancy pelosi, talking about political violence, jimmy carter, kanye west and even the a.c.o.r.n. thing. so there's a muddles message problem that's going to come out
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of this. already the sunday shows are previewing their comments with obama's comments about racism and i think that dilutes his health care message. >> adam, what about this one, the familiar charge today that the president is overexposed, what about overexposing the health care message, what about it when people say i have heard all this before and i'm tired of it? >> i don't think there's any serious risk that people who don't want to hear from president obama would tune in. if david gregory is looking for a fresh face to put on "meet the press," someone not overexposed, right here, i am willing to come on. but on a serious note, we are facing kind of a -- we have overwhelming public support for the public option. we have senates like olympia snowe in maine where her constituents overly want the public option and these senators aren't supporting it. president obama has a uniquely
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powerful voice and a uniquely powered bully pulpit to steer the conversation in the right direction. >> but you know what, adam, you say everybody wants a public option, but really over all this time is message has yet to really be received. >> i didn't say everybody, i said overwhelming majorities. 16% of americans want the public option. between 60% and 70% of republicans have received the message loud and clear. even despite the misinformation that was pervasive in the month of august, people still want the public option. so why wouldn't president obama go out there and reach for public support? >> from the right, they have mocked the president for his level of celebrity. but isn't the president himself the best and most formidable
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weapon that the democrats have to push through health care reform any mean if people want to hear from him, why shouldn't he be out there? >> this plan is not suffering from a lack of seeing the president, the problem is that the senate and the house have confusing plans that the public doesn't understand. obama has been flagging his health care plan to the media, people have seen him and he still hasn't been able to sell it. the problem lies in washington and they have got to find a way to get the policy people together. i think there's bipartisan room for a step by step, thoughtful approach that starts with things like tort reform and letting people pool access across state lines, there's support for this kind of thing. but instead they're trying to ram this huge controversial proposal that the public doesn't like. >> amanda carpenter and adam green, appreciate that. we'll be right back.
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it's day two of the values voter summit in washington, d.c., and conservatives from across the country are attending. several top gop figures are speaking at the event on several topics, including health care reform and the direction of the republican party. >> it is at times a country that is almost difficult to recognize. we have become the land of czars, clunker cars and hollywood stars. >> it really is insulting when we hear that republicans don't have positive solutions. we have all sorts of positive solutions. >> well, coming up a little bit later this morning, we're going to hear from tony perkins, president of the family research council, one of the sponsors of the values summit. now to a few items in our "yes, it's true" segment, and we begin with sarah palin. an alabama woman is paying $63,500 to have dinner with the former vice presidential candidate. the dinner was an auction on the
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internet to help wounded veterans. but there are some deal-breakers. the winner must meet a certain number of standards of suitability and professionalism, and the dinner will last no more than four hours. and lunch with karl rove was also being auctioned. the winning bid, $16,000. and also, the regulations for the winners includes passing a background check. there may be more kate on tv without jon. mama gosselin this weekend is reportedly shooting a pilot for a talk show. her co-host would be paula deen, and it would be chock-full of advice on a myriad of topics. don't know if it's going to include tips on marriage. and yep, that is all true. you're watching "msnbc saturday." coming up, five days of agony in which an elderly woman stuck in her car. her fight for survival and her rescue, ahead. during times like these it seems like the world will never be the same. but there is a light beginning to shine again. the spark began where it always begins.
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first details on what he's saying as he sweeps across the media landscape. the alleged yale killer. if he did it, did he act alone? police are now saying their investigation could lead to other suspects. plus, the new blockbuster even before it hit the store shelves, one book set records. what is the appeal of dan brown's "the lost symbol"? good morning, everyone, i'm alex witt. welcome to "msnbc saturday." we have all that, plus conservatives gathering right now to pick their presidential front-runners for 2012. but first, let's go to the president, pulling out all the stops this weekend in an effort to bring his health reform message to every single american with a television set. in a sit-down interview with david gregory to air tomorrow on "meet the press," the president says jimmy carter got it wrong when he suggested racism is the secret reason for the rancor over health reform. so, i'm joined now live from washington by nbc's mike viqueira, at his post at the white house. good morning, mike. >> reporter: good morning, alex. >> let's talk about the points e
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