no, no, this is just for peaceful purposes. prove it. don't assert it, prove it. >> are the warnings falling on deaf ears. the rogue nation test firing missiles capable of reaching israel and u.s. bases. a very important meeting happening this week. to catch a predator director. roman polanski captured after he fled the american legal system. why now? what is next? bank of america. bank of anger. customers firing back against bonuses and back room deals. politics at play in you bet you. sarah palin, and joe wilson, and they are all getting their own action figures. is this a political trend or -- >> you lie! >> it's 9:00 a.m. pull up a chair and join the

"morning meeting." good morning to you. we begin with iran dramatically raising the stakes in the standoff over its nuclear activity despite international growing pressure. they tested missiles that can deliver a nuclear war head 1,200 miles away. jim miklaszewski, take it away. >> reporter: nobody is getting too excited about it in the military or pentagon because they have tested the missiles before, and these missile tests, believe it or not, have been previously scheduled. but the fact they had been conducted days before this meeting in geneva between international officials and the iranians to talk about their

nuclear ambitions and what the u.s. military and pentagon think would be a knack clear weapons program is obviously an in-your-face gesture. over the weekend, roberts gates on the sunday morning talk shows said there is no question about iran's intentions here. >> this is part of a pattern of deception and lies on the part of the iranians from the very beginning with respect to their nuclear program. so it's no wonder that world leaders think that they have ulterior motives, that they have a plan to go forward with nuclear weapons. otherwise why would they do this is inn such a deceptive matter. >> at the same time, secretary gates says there is not a viable military option in the short term, that air strikes against the nuclear program in iran would only buy time.

in other words, put off their nuclear ambitions for maybe two or three as long as five years according to some estimates, and that secretary of state hillary clinton believes that ultimately it will take sanctions to do the job. >> we're exploring how you broaden and deepen sanctions. sanctions are already in place, as you know, but like many systems, they are leaky. but in the last eight months since we have been dealing with north korea on a similar set of issues, we forged a consensus around very tough sanctions. >> and there is tough talk out of some iranians. the defense minister said if the air strikes were launched against iran, there are quite high ranking iranians still

taking about the anileation of israel through all of this. and some officials think the most biting sanction would be to cut off gasoline imports into iran. dylan, you may know more about this an i do, and iran would withhold oil exports, and that could drive prices through the roof? >> let's say with the discovery of the nuclear discovery. this was disclosed because iran was complying with iaea requests for diz closure, is that valid? is it not true that iran also agreed to inspections? in other words, the reason we know about this is not because we caught them but because iran disclosed it in accordance with iaea standards? >> well, according to u.s. officials we have been talking to, including counter

proliferation officials, it's the opposite of what iran said. while they don't say israel, you can bet israel intelligence has known about this for a couple years and were keeping an eye on it. somehow just recently iran caught wind of the fact that the international community was about to blow the whisle on iran and so they stepped forward to say we wanted to come forward and be as open as we can about this, but it's the opposite according to officials that we are talking about to in washington. >> understanding they had been found out and then they came forward and said look what we have? >> that's exactly what happened according to officials we have been talking to. >> what, if anything, can the international community do about the threat? joining utah covthe conversatio

thomas pickering. we will begin to you, insect of state's comments on the leak yesness of sanctions. which is easier and which is more effective in your opinion? >> i think it's important to look at why you put sanctions on. there are serious problems with iran and serious problems with this apparently clan december yent effort. we need to see if we can use them to help bring along a negotiated arrangement. if iran is not prepared to negotiate or move ahead down the

road towards a resolution of the problem, that would be the appropriate time and place to put on sanctions. sanctions have been leakey, and we have had trouble bringing russia and china along. and it appears the discovery of the facility to the russia has produced solidarity, and we can count on that. we don't have a strong reason to know why we would put on sanctions, and that would come because the iranians are ferocious negotiators, and then how would we try to make those as useful and airtight as possible. we just had an election in iran. we don't want to do it in a way that solidifiesolidifies. >> what is your belief as to the best way to proceed relative to the nuclear facility?

what would be the most effective response to insure the lowest probability of nuclear capability being developed in that country? >> well, dylan, thank you so much. i am glad to be here today. i think the important story here is last week's developments and how it appropriately put the spotlight back on the iranians to answer for its illegal nuclear activities. we should be clear about this. the iranians have stated that they have done nothing illegal, but they are in violation of an agreement that they have with the iaea that was agreed to in february of 2003 where it was where they agreed they would immediately tell the iaea of any facilities as soon as the decision was made to build the facilities. it's not the stories the iranians are currently putting out there. we should make sure that everybody understands that. the best way to deal with the current problem in iran is really make sure that we can make use of last week's developments, and signal to the iranians that it's best that

they get to the negotiating table now rather than waiting later. >> now, ambassador, and jim thank you, and vicky and jonathan, we will get to you later. contessa, what is the balance of the news? >> obama will travel thursday on lobby the international olympic committee. they want him to pick his home city, chicago, for the 2016 games. and nbc's savannah guthrie was the first one to break the story. this is what she said. he said that he would not be able to attend because of the health care debate, and he would instead dispatch his wife in his place in sted. well, after returning from the big u.n. meetings and the g-20 summit, the president made the call he would take the trip to

cop copen hagen. and oprah winfrey will head there to help pitch chicago as the place for the 2016 olympics. a student was beaten to death and the attack was caught on camera. the tv station in chicago has obtained the tape of the beating. he encountered suspected gang members in the middle of the fight. the gang swarmed albert and began to beat him. police are questioning a number of students and detained one of the people you can see on the videotape, very graphic, swinging a massive board at albert and hitting him. there he falls. people rush in to help him, but, again, he passed away. >> thank you, contessa. roman polanski, one of the

world's most celebrated fugitives, behind bars for a crime that he committed some 30 years ago. some are asking, why now? others, what next? we are back with vicky, jonathan and the rest of the gang here on the "morning meeting" right after this. (announcer) we understand. you need to save money. what if it had a flat bottom? old el paso stand 'n stuff. true genius. mexican style. but what we can do is arm ourselves... for the ones we love with a flu shot from walgreens. ♪ ( coughs ) ♪

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lawyers are saying they will fight any attempts to bring him to the united states to face a conviction for raping a 13-year-old girl. i understand the secretary of state, hillary clinton, already being asked to get involved. what is the latest? >> yeah, that's right. the foreign ministers of poland and france have apparently

decided they are going to ask the secretary of state hillary clinton if she will grant clemency to roman polanski. whether that will go anywhere we simply don't know. polanski is a france citizen and he grew up in poland. those two countries arguing his case on this side of the bond. he came here, to zurich, to the film festival. he never made it out of the airport, because he was arrested on the 32--year-old international warrant for having had sex with a minor back in 1997. his lawyer said today that that arrest is indefensible, and they will fight it and any attempts by the united states at ext extradigs.

he has a house here in switzerland. he has been here many times before. why now did they decide to exercise the war rent on a man who is 76 years old. the victim says she doesn't want to see him spend anytime at all in jail. she has in the past spoken out about her ordeal. >> it was so traumatic starting that night when my mom called the police and the police come over and take you to the hospital and the police station. >> reporter: back then, that was 1977. roman polanski did plead guilty to sex with a minor. he did spend 42 days for psychiatric assessment. it's on that charge this warrant

as been issued. he had never gone back to the united states because of the fear that he would be arrested. now he is facing the music, it seems. >> donna, thank you very much. with us on set, a former defensive attorney. remember, his wife was murdered in the manson crimes. and -- >> this is like one of his movies. >> do you have any insight into the why now question? >> i knew there were attempts in the past to extradite him, but he has an appeal in the united states. what happens now is he probably will fight extradition, which takes months. the last extradition out of

switzerland took months. we are looking months down the line. >> put this in context, toure? >> well, he is a great filmmakers of all-time. and "china town," and probably polanski's greatest movie. it's a beautiful detective story. >> that doesn't mean he is not a criminal, toure. >> great. let's infiltrate them. >> and if you look at the way the man lived in europe over the decades, and his mobility through switzerland, and etc., etc., and i am trying to figure

out why the outrage is that we are going to put him in jail when he has been available for decades. >> yeah, and there was a documentary about what happened to polanski. and i thought is this glorifying him in some way? and will there be a price for that? after all, this man made a mockery of the american justice system, because he is famous. >> and let's say we are legitimate concerned that he was making a mockery of the justice system, would we not have picked him up 25 years ago? the fundamental concern is we cannot allow a mockery to be developed against the justice system, why would we wait 30 years? what is your answer to why now? to vicky's point, and she

represents a lot of people that feel this way, the outrage weas there for decades. >> well, there were attempts to get him. >> i think the answer is the appeal is pending and he is getting a lot of attention and it's a slap in the face to the justice system. >> i don't buy that as to why now. >> jonathan? >> i didn't realize my microphone was open. who made the decision to go after him? several decades of twiting about europe, who is the one that said let's go get this guy? >> prosecutors in the u.s. arranged with switzerland to have him extradited. >> nobody knows why now. there is a great reason to pick him up. >> his case came to the top of the pile. >> didn't you hear he was best

director in 1992, and you would think that would be the time to say, wait a minute, we cannot have this. >> and yeah, and why are we allowing to receive awards from harrison ford, and then we were drunk for 30 years, and then we say he is mocking us and let's go get him. that doesn't fly. >> well, i think the top of the pile thing makes all the sense. >> i don't buy that either. >> it was a cold case file, and the appeal is pending, and -- >> it feels like an aur bough trar -- aush trary decision to me. >> jonathan, the last word on polanski? >> i have no word. smart man. straight ahead, the president's plan to keep your kids in school longer. plus political action figures. a trend or talker? does our panel on why ideas on

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welcome back to the morning meeting. monday morning, it's nice to see you. let's see rhett thereset the ag. and the world learned of a secret nuclear facility by diz closure by iran. and president george bush had the same information as president obama, and they are taking different paths in dealing with the country. and bank of america. the target of growing american anger. perhaps it's something to do

with the fact that it pocketed bailout cash directly. that, of course, just the tip of the iceberg. we will get into bank of anger coming up. opening bell coming up in moments here. and corporate profitability continues to get better, and unemployment gets much worse. jobless americans out numbering job opening 6 to 1. should the president summons people to put them to work for the government directly. why buy your kids barbie and g.i. joe when can you buy them a

politician figure. first up, contessa brewer with the latest. america's top commander, mcchrystal made it clear he believes thousands more troops are needed to keep the taliban from winning the war. although a specific number has not been revealed senator mccain pegged it calling it the worse kept secret in washington. and he also says the military needs to work closely with the afghan population. in other words, giving insurgency incentives to stop fighting. on cbs "60 minutes," he said failure is a possibility. >> can you imagine ever saying to the president of the united

states, sir, we just can't do it? >> yes, i can. and if i felt that way -- the day i am sure that i feel that way i will tell him that. >> and u.s. deaths in afghanistan hit a record high last month, and more than three dozen have died in september. yesterday, al qaeda's second in command released a message saying jihad will go on until the liberation of afghanistan, he said until you run away defeated from our land. and robert gates insists that is not going to happen. >> the notion of time lines and exit strategies and so on, frankly, i think it would all be a strategic mistake. the reality is failure in afghanistan would be a huge setback for the united states. >> dylan, an intense internal debate right now. >> are we trying to protect

ourselves by chemical and biological warfare, or just what? >> we are joined by our guests. i am going to begin with you. general mcchrystal saying for gets hearts and minds, we need trusting confidence. what is your assessment of the mood and the people and the politics of afghanistan today? >> well, i won't say that the american military actually lost the pr war, but they definitely have not won. the people here, especially in the southern provinces of afghanistan, and places that we have been to and places that we talked to, people that there is

mistrust and suspicious of the intentions of the u.s. military, they believe they are here for strategic reasons. they lost a lot of support because of a lot of civilian casualties. and they still have died even though it was unintentional. and many believe the afghans should be taking the lead. a comprehensive strategy involving sending more troops near the border. they believe the problem is across the border. >> general mccaffrey, as a military commander, how do you deal with the lack of trust that was just described, particularly as a result of civilian casualties and etc.? >> i think it's a challenge. we are foreigners. these people are suspicious of those that don't share their religion. we have had a tremendous challenge with civilian casualties over the last several years. having said that, widespread

belief that they don't want the taliban back. this is not afghanistan's culture. 2/3 of the casualties were caused by the taliban. afghanistan is in misery. mcchrystal is as good as we have been able to produce in uniform in the last 25 years. and the dilemma is more political here in the united states than on the ground in afghanistan. hard to imagine we will depart afghanistan or hard to imagine we will give him the 250,000 troops. so we will try and build the afghan forces. >> would it's be u.s. withdrawal or a meaningful u.s. surge? >> well, the afghan government has welcomed the troop surge in

afghanistan. like i mentioned, they said it had to be part of a comprehensive strategy. from the beginning afghan officials have been saying boost the number of the local forces and strengthen them. and i heard this two years ago, and yet that was not the priority. what the afghans want is for the afghan soldiers to take the lead. they are not going to be hostile if they see the afghan soldiers taking the lead. and they know it doesn't mean they support the taliban if they don't support the u.s. military, but at the end of the day, this is a conservative society and they want their local culture, their local customs would be respected. >> general , how does the

deployment of the ground force in the afghanistan and the ground troops go to the end and is it the best use of the u.s. resources? >> well, i don't think that's what we are doing. there is an aim to confront al qaeda. it's in western pakistan. and it seems to me what we are doing is trying to create a nation state that will not act as a sanctuary shaven for a national jihad. i think we are concerned about the strategic challenges of having a chaotic situation between pakistan and iran and the republicans. i think we are trying to build a nation state and then exit leaving them on their own. >> understood. thank you, general. and thank you for your reporting from kabul.

dylan, we are following a disturbing attack caught on camera. a honor role student beaten to death by suspected gang members on his way home from school. the beating was caught on a cell phone. >> the gang violence exists and it continues. this was on the south side of chicago. a whole group of people, several dozen set upon the one fellow who is 16 years old. he was an honor student. he is beaten with long boards, and kicked and then stomped, and punched. you can hear somebody shouting, they are beating him to death, and then some are laughing. he died. and somebody came up and identified the body. >> the video shows a group of

people, and it looks like several people have the long boards, and they are -- when we say long boards. >> it's like 2 x 8s. >> yeah, they are swinging them at several people. but it looks like albert was one of the kids who really got caught in the middle of it. >> yeah, and that's what his mother said. she was told by other kids that was there, he tried to help somebody else involved and got caught in the fighting and was hit, she said. >> what is the situation now with students in detention and in custody? >> right now police are questioning four people that have been identified because that video exists. they can be tried as adults if they are charged and brought to trial. they do have the four that they are talking to right now. school is reopened today. >> is that part of chicago, having real gang problems? >> yeah, a terrible postscript

of the story. the mother identified the body, and went from identifying her son's body, to meeting with the chapter of hundremissing childr. now, let's go to "meet the press." >> your wife talked about the vast right wing conspiracy targeting you. is that still there? >> you bet. sure it is. it's not as strong as it was because america has changed demographically. >> clinton went on to say the gop agenda appears to be rooting for the president to fair. he said that's not only bad for the party but for the country. now, a woman learned she was having two babies.

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>> he did pretty well. in four theaters only two in new york and two in l.a. they made money. he made money criticizing capitalism and the way business is done in america today. every movie is a business and every movie wants to make money. >> but is it a business that uses taxpayer money? >> obviously. >> a difference between those who steal and those who actually create value. >> right. but it's interesting he is criticizing capitalism while doing a capitalistic endeavor. >> i do think he is specifically criticizing those who acclaim to be capitalists. >> absolutely. >> who don't use their own -- >> i'm not saying he is in any way a hypocrite. cream, right? >> i understand. i got it. "snl" they did a skit based on the word -- i won't say it but on the word friggin'? >> yes. rookie jenny slate from ucb, this is her first show and she discovered the rigors and perils of doing live tv. doing a skit based on the word

friggin' and she says that word at least every sentence then the real thing came out. the funny part is the face she made after she said it. let's show it. >> you friggin' just threw an ashtray full of butts at my head. you know what? you stood up for yourself and i [ bleep ] love you for that! >> but if you write a comedy sketch or skit based on the "f" word and then somebody says the "f" word, should you be surprised? >> no. i was watching it and all of these friggin's were coming out over and over. i think it washed over the first time because you didn't even knots notice it but i don't know. we're doing live tv right now. those words are not in the front of the mouth. when you're talking to your grandmother you don't slip and say these things. >> one would not even if wthe fast money hooting and hollering at each other, it doesn't enter

your brain. >> no, no. i've seen people do it but you know, and our man dylan no interceptions and on no "f" bombs and using his inside voice when he visited with martha stewart to make papier-mache pigs. you'll see it later today but here's a tape. >> the reason that they call them spotted or that they said they got the spots is because the fruit from the or charred orchards would fall on the pigs. did you hear that? >> no. what did it do? bruise them? >> it's these little spotted pigs and they would hang out in the orchards and the pears would fall from the trees and they would hit the pig and create this spotting. >> who are you right now? >> listen. >> who is this person? how do you know how to make papier-mache spotted pigs?

how do you know about orchards? >> just watch martha stewart later. still ahead on "morning meeting," iran, same threat, different president. seems like deja vu. obama and president bush had the same information. very different strategy so far. however, why the difference and will obama's strategy work any better than his predecessor? we discuss here coming up. here is your business traveler forecast. i'm bill karins. big storm in the great lakes. travel spot today. chicago, chance of showers. windy, too. the big issue for the airports and detroit, chicago. great day today in boston to d.c. out west a nice day in denver and chance of showers in seattle.

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long-range missile testing in iran as we look at why bush's rhetoric on iran was so different than the president's, even though we are learning they had the same information on what that country was up to. a famous director and convicted predator. what happens to roman polanski now he has been captured in switzerland and could hillary clinton be his ticket to freedom. >>? i had to write one on the last minute on loose-leaf paper and that made me look crazy! >> plus, art imitating life. taking on gadhafi and well they should. it's 10:00 a.m. pull up a chair and join the "morning meeting." the first friday of every new month jobs reports comes out and this is the first friday of october, although it will be october 2nd and we are find we are still losing jobs. most economists expecting a rise

in current unemployment to 9.7% and "the new york times" report finding only one job available for every six people looking for work. nbc news chief white house correspondent and political director chuck todd joins us with what the white house is doing in anticipation of further job losses. chuck? >> well, dylan, i think getting that story out there, number one, trying to create a soft landing for the bad news next week. i mean these things don't pop up in the media by accident. there is this concern. we've heard the president for months saying we know unemployment rate to go over 10% and even in the last round of interviews that he did over the last couple of weeks, a couple of people did ask him about that prediction and he stuck to it. they know. but this is a logical thing, dylan, right? we know people are working longer and not retiring and, therefore, those jobs don't open up a at retirement so you can't get new workers in and i think you are seeing younger workers

hit the hardest. i tell you, i think this is the sole way that the president is judged at the polls will be that unemployment number. we can talk about approval ratings and talk about keeping the country safe and secure, no doubt about that those things are important, but boy, whether people feel like they can get a job or change jobs, that feeling, if that's not there and people feel negative and pessimistic about it, they will punish the party in charge come the next november they get that chance to do it. >> and you contrast what you just described, chuck, in my opinion, with continued evidence of, again, record profits at the banks. >> yes. >> the confidence we're seeing or the confidence or -- >> wall street versus main street. >> it goes beyond health care. you look at the process in our government and in the financial service universe with statistics like this you'll have an

interesting 2010. joining us is thomas and jonathan and vicky. professor, at what point does this president have to look instead of subsidizing banks to keep them in business or the stimulus money that sort of circulates through the political structure and is doled out on a state level, at what point does he have to go to direct employment? >> well, i think that point is right now. it's clear that we're likely to go over 10% at a national level of unemployment. some parts of the country are well over 15%. and that masks an even deeper problem. so it's time to put jobs as the number one economic priority on the agenda and to figure out how we can build not only good jobs, but jobs that are sustainable in a global economy. >> how do you recognize the obvious needs of our economy? we need energy solutions? there are lists of things we have desperate to have filled which would be work for many,

many people and, yet, we hear that there is no work. why is that? >> what we need are a combination of regional and industry specific strategies. we can go into the regions with high levels of unemployment and create -- bring labor and business and local financial institutions together to develop economic redevelopment plan. that should be a big piece of what we do. then, secondly, just as you said, let's attack those areas where we have industry specific job needs, where we have occupational shortages. let's break the shortage of nurses by investing more in expanding nursing education programs. that's the bottleneck there. there are a number of things we can do as a nation if we put the job issue as our number one economic priority, move away from the aggregate and get right down there and roll up our arms -- or our sleeves in the regions most affected in the industries.

>> when the labor forces are filling the needs of society as opposed to the labor force preying upon the taxpayer. >> absolutely. i think small businesses where obama should focus and subsidize employment because that would pleas both democrats and republicans and that actually have a benefit on society and it wouldn't be sort of what fdr did where he gave government jobs but actually then hurt other small businesses. that would be competitive -- subsidizing jobs in small business would be competitive and improve the job figures. >> jonathan capehart, we're going to come impact on health care. tomorrow, public option will be up on the amend amount ve review. at what point will the president or politicians realize integrating job care rhetoric and health care rhetoric is with them? >> i think the obama administration would argue that's been one of their maersages all along if we don't

get health care costs under control, if the united states doesn't get health care costs under control, not only will it bankrupt companies because that's been their biggest, you know, most exploding costs but, also, you grind economic activity to a halt and, you know, react to something vicky said. it would be great if the government would come forward and say we're creating job programs and subsidize jobs for small businesses but i think you get into the bigger question where is this money going to come from? if people are screaming about subsidized health care and imagine what you say on top of that even to help small businesses even more government money to help small business? >> am i allowed? >> no, we're out of time. you're always allowed -- >> i'm sorry, vicky. >> we need to e-mail. >> it just may not happen on camera. professor, thank you so much and jonathan and vicky, thank you.

film directors for roman polanski will fight any attempts to bring him to the united states to face a 1977 conviction for having sex with a 13-year-old girl. he was aflested switzerland over the weekend where he was supposed to receive an award at a film festival. reportedly foreign ministers from poland and france will ask to give polanski clemmancy. over the weekend, secretary gates refused to back general mchrystal's request to add thousands more u.s. troops. instead, gates said getting the strategy right is of the utmost importance. he says the president will make that determination within weeks. a story breaking first on nbc news. president obama will travel to denmark to try to help chicago get the bid for 2016 olympics.

the city will be awarded the rights this week. here is some interesting video. the pope speaking saturday afternoon. you can see we circled it there. it's a spider! it's crawling all over the pontiff. it crawled on the pope's shoulder and other shoulder, then made his way towards his face before the pope finally swatted god's little creature away. we love bugs here. they are always crawling over the big screen behind you, dylan. why not show them in all of their glory? >> i don't know that we love bugs. >> we do! we love bugs! >> they certainly love us. >> that's true. straight ahead on the "morning meeting," the iranian threat has not changed. if anything, it's escalated since the bush years. so how should the obama team handle this international concern. what is the concern and how is

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a defyant iran as you likely know firing long ranger missiles today and adding tensions with the west over it's nuclear program. as jim miklaszewski will point out the tests were planned but ill time considering recent disclosures. now the u.s. is insisting iran come clean on its intentions or face crippling sanctions. meanwhile, the u.s. says it's going to need some help if it's going to make good on that threat, specifically of sanctions to iran. ali ruzi works for nbc news in tehran. what is the sense of willingness to respond to western pressure,

ali? >> well, the timing of this isn't very good. i mean, iranians are flexing their military muscles showing they can defend themselves, that they can bargain harder going into these october 1st meetings. the iranians have been very adamant. they said this is a military drill, which is a deterrent and there is no connection whatsoever with the nuclear program but the timing of it is very bad. this isn't going to instill a lost confidence in western powers who want to negotiate with iran next week. >> what would the impact of further sanctions be? >> well, it would help the grassroots people in iran. sanctions, there is already three sets of sanctions in iran and although president mahmoud ahmadinejad said it doesn't affect iran but it affects the grassroots people. in the last four years i've been in iran inflation has quad you rupeled an it would have a lasting on the people in iran. >> if you were to look at your

reporting in the country, what is their sense relative to ahmadinejad, the recent disclosures and, of course, the tensions going to the most recent iranian election? >> well, there is. i mean, a lot of tension in iran right now. the country is somewhat divided. a lot of turmoil. it's a very different place to what it was before june 12st elections so people are worried on many different levels. they have their own personal issues here post election and worried about further sanction and of course, threat of an attack by israel. there are mounting pressures on people in iran as every day goes by. >> last question. your thoughts and your reporting on the expected climate, if you will, in iran as a result of obama's politics and rhetoric, let alone the posturing with western europe and, potentially, russia. >> it's a different attitude and

iranians picked up on that. during the bush administration, it was a tactic of isolation. now the obama administration have developed a tactic of dialogue which the iranians seem to be more receptive to. press ahmadinejad has mentioned a few times in the past obama is a man he can do business with. so his rhetoric has certainly softened but the latest actions don't reflect that. the nuclear facilities and missile tests. we're still in very murky waters here. >> i want to highlight the differentiation in the rhetoric. ali, thank you very much. jim miklaszewski, along with vicky and jonathan. before we expand the conversation to the rhetoric and the difference of the rhetoric between george w. bush and president obama. let me remind you of the key distinctions. take a listen, if you would, to george w. bush in a consolidation of some of his rhetoric relative to iran. >> iran is, today, the world's leading state sponsor of terror. iran's actions threaten the

security of nations everywhere. so the united states is strengthening our long-standing security commitments with our friends in the gulf and rallying friends around the world to confront this danger before it's too late. our strategy is this. we will fight them over there so we do not have to face them in the united states of america. >> and now president obama on iran. >> we will extend a hand, if you are willing to unclench your fist. my administration is now committed to diplomacy that addresses the full range of issues before us and to pursuing constructive ties among the united states, iran, and the international community. i have said before and i will repeat, i am committed to diplomacy that opens a path to greater prosperity and more secure peace for both nations, if they live up to their obligations. my offer of a serious meaningful dialogue to resolve this issue remains open. >> why the tactical shift,

jonathan capehart? >> president bush's rhetoric was 9/11. remember, 9/11 in the spector of global terrorism is what motivated a much of the bush administration's foreign policy and so he took the "i" off afghanistan and switched it to iraq which sent the united states basically into being a nation unto itself, going it alone. fast forward to now president obama. including even all of the democratic candidates and i do believe senator mccain talking more about engagement. what they saw as and i think president obama views as is of going it along has been loss of international prestige and loss of american lives, and certainly loss of american money. you know, we're in a deep hole because of, you know, the huge costs of the wars in afghanistan and iraq. and so i think president obama, right now, it's all about engagement because even though

the united states is a powerful nation and the most powerful nation on earth, it's even more powerful when it can act in concert with other nations. you know, prime minister brown and president sarkozy and even some of the softening of language on sanctions against iran by russian president medvedev didn't happen by act accident, it happened by president obama reach rooeching out to the world to have them come around to america's interests. >> vicky? >> jonathan, i agree broadly with what you said, except that i think from the british perspective, the brits are relying on obama being the world's policeman here and they have the labor party conference and it won't be gordon brown dealing with these issues it will be david cameron when he gets elected next may. i think words, words, what they mean. look what happened right after president obama made his speech. it was the french, president sarkozy, who is actually showing

signs of being tougher at the moment. >> is there anything indication that the european allies are willing to work with obama in a real way relative to iran? >> what worries me this morning is the british newspapers are full of domestic politics and the liberal press, you know, have a few articles on iran basically attacking israel for being, quote/unquote, fanatic country. so i am concerned that obama is going to have to work very hard on this. >> jim miklaszewski, you get the last word but to vicky's points are we kidding you'reselves -- kidding ourselves -- >> it's not very easy. if i can make this point. despite the differences in the rhetoric in the bush administration and the obama administration, both administrations took the position there is no good, viable military option to removing the nuclear threat from iran, at least in the short term. both the bush and obama

administrations are putting pressure on israeli not to carry out military strikes against iran and we heard over the weekend -- >> why is that -- jim, briefly, why is that? there are those who would argue why not put a bomb over and degrade their military capabilities. >> because, ultimately, that would plunge that gulf region into chaos and oil prices skyrocketing. you know, we used to say to a hundred dollars a barrel, it could skyrocket to 200 dollars a barrel if all-out chaos broke out in the gulf. and when you heard bush, when he was so strong on his rhetoric, he wasn't necessarily talking to iran at the time. he was talking to gulf state allies. all of those arab nation who thought the bush administration was going to bail out. in fact, senior pentagon officials had long taken the position there may be no way to stop iran ultimately from getting a nuclear weapon and they were the ones who were putting the pressure on israel not to strike. that pressure continues, although, you know, we get signs

from some administration officials that israel is creeping ever closer to launching military strikes, which would, of course, draw the united states directly into any armed conflict in that region with iran. >> jim, thank you very much. we take a break. when we come back, plugging into politics with contessa. former president clinton weighing on what he sees is a right wing conspiracy against president barack obama so why does he believe this will end different than what happened to the democrats in 1994 and do those on the left and the right really understand what is at stake for them as they try to cultivate positive relations with the u.s. taxpayer, period.

president clinton talking to "meet the press" moderator david gregory saying the democrats will keep the house in 2010. contessa brewer has the story.

>> president clinton says americans are too smart for this and seen this movie play out and know how it ends. this will not be a repeat of '94. let's play it. >> the country is more diverse and more independence in positive action. number two, they've seen this movie before because they had eight years under president bush when the republicans finally had the whole government and they know the results were bad. >> in fact, he says the republican attacks, they are aiming to hurt president obama and aiming to make him fail. he said it's bad for the republican party and bad the country. there will not ab repeat of this in the election. is there a right wing conspiracy here? is he saying a right wing conspiracy. >> i think how you define that but i'm sure depending on your definition the answer could be yes or no. >> interesting to see what happens and because of this other story we're seeing from politico saying a lot of independent governors running this year. that could change the fate for

the democrats going into the elections next year as well. so it will be interesting to see how this plays out, whether we see a lot of people clinging -- >> to me the question is not if the people have faith in the republicans but the republicans i think proved themselves utterly incompetent and the question is whether the democrats with deserving more incompetent. >> that is why the republicans find more success running next year than in years past. london telegraph reporting that berlusconi has called president obama can't. he says, quote, i brings you greetings from a person who is called -- a person who is suntanned barack obama. he told a crowd of cheering supporters yesterday. he said, quote, you wouldn't believe it but they go sunbathing at the beach together and his wife is also suntan? what? he says anybody who fels

offended by this is an imbecile. >> he was telling jokes? >> i don't find that humorous. mrs. obama apparently pointedly chose to shake berlusconi's hand last week, rather than give him a hug and kiss on the cheek as she did with other world leaders. he's a problem child, berlusc i berlusconi. >> we were talking about the dictators last week. anything that comes out of world leaders mouths. >> whether they are dictators or not sometimes you raise an eyebrow. apparently south carolina is the only state in the nation that elects its leader of the national guard. the title is called atijant general. the republican running for this is dean allen. he had a campaign rally of sorts. he is raveling off for $25, tickets to a barbecue. you get a bullet clip for some target practice and the chance to win an ak-47 semiautomatic.

if you win it, you have to go through a background check before taking it home. 500 people came out to the shooting range to support him for this political rally. he says, look, it's a way to celebrate our second amendment rights and win a big gun. >> we have a big segment draw the line. we're ready from spitballs to nuclear weapons. >> i don't have a problem with it. if you're a good shot, target practice. >> you have to figure are you okay with nuclear weapons or sling shot? where are you okay? >> right. pretty soon we're going to draw the line. >> we will draw the line on this soon enough and that, hookers and pot and all that. coming up on the "morning meeting," new backlash toward one of the nation's bailedout banks and more americans standing up and say we're not going to take it anymore. >> sing it. ♪ we're not going to take it no we ain't going to take it waert not going to take it any more ♪

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anger continues to build against america' bailed out banks as they reap profits in some cases and taxpayers provide trillions for their utilization and banks raise interest rates and ut cut off people's credit. >> one guy is so fed up with

customer service at bank of america, the bank may need another bailout. it would be the mother of all bailouts. the man is suing for, are you ready for this? $1,7 $1,784 billion trillion dollars. that tops the world's gross domestic product. he claims he got the runaround from customer service his checks were reject because of incomplete routing numbers and bank of america is facing much more serious allegations and under investigation for misleading investors about merrill lynch bonuses and about fees getting tacked on for overdrawn charges and interviewing somebody the other day was upset her account was closed when when she tried to turn in what turned out to be a falsified check. the judge denny chin sentenced bernie madoff to 150 years for

running a massive ponzi scheme. i'm guessing here the trillion dollar lawsuit is not going anywhere. >> you mentioned 60 trillion for global dgp. you figure the u.s. banks without asking any of us in the taxpayer base we're using 23 trillion ultimately to support the enterprise so that is half of the world's gdp so they with perpetuate a game of a playing speculation. vicky joins the conversation. so, too, does dan who covers the bank of america in bloomberg news. at what point does bank of america have no choice but either to start reducing fees or making other accommodations to their customer base because the level of anger is reaching an apex? >> good morning, dylan. the banks started last week. they talked about changing overdraft fees and cutting them

significantly from what they were before. they have a new guy running their consumer bank which is the biggest part of the bank, brian moynahan. he has pledged to provide more clarity and simplicity. they say they are respond to go that climate that you're talking about. >> if you were to look at bank of america's ability to rebut any of it, whether it's the anger about the merrill lynch bonuses, whether it is the anger about the ongoing taxpayer subsidy of their business, we all know what the lists are, is there anything bank of america feels like ought be known or is being misunderstood in their role in all of this? do they feel like they are being victimized in any way? >> they ought to speak to that. as long as there is $45 billion in t.a.r.p. funds they are using to keep their balance sheet stronger, they are still going to be open for much more secrete knee by the government and by you guys and the rest of us in the media. so i'm not sure a whole lot that

they can do, until they pay back that t.a.r.p. >> vicky, go ahead. >> dave, one question. can bank of america has tried to label him because he has said out that hank paulson made him do that deal that contained all of that money that the judge said was not disclosed to the shareholders that had all of those bonuses, millions of bonuses paid out to merrill lynch. i mean, is that not the case? >> he's made very clear before congress that he felt some pressure. he did not want to use the word threat. you have to parse the words in what he was feeling. >> if you look at a consumer perspective as people come more and more to understand from the banking perspective we were not hit by a bus but robbed and continue to perpetuate the system that robs us and the huffington post is doing a great job of identifying people who are taking direct action against

their bank where the bank jacking up their interest rate or all of the things bank do to people without provocation really, at what point do customers take a bite not only out of bank of america's business but the commercial banking business period? either by not paying credit card bills or anything else? >> a lot are talking about potential profit and current profitability from the regulations that are coming down on credit cards and potentially tougher regulation on consumer banking, including this overdraft fees, which have been huge sources of income profit for the retail banks for many, many years. so i think bank of america has a special problem, given that the defaults they are seeing on that credit card business is the biggest in the industry, so they are getting -- having a big problem collecting money from their credit card customers, at the same time they are being forced to rate costs in terms of

higher regulations on their credit card business. a squeeze is going on there. you talk about where is the threat? that seems to be it, credit cards and higher -- and more regulation on the deposit business. >> other than bank of america, j.p. morgan i presume would be highly impacted by any meaningful regulation of the like, the kind you just described? >> sure the big megabanks have more than half of the u.s. deposits right now. so those are the people that are going to feel the biggest impact right away from this regulation one would think. they also have the lion's share of the market of mortgages and credit cards where we're seeing more regulation also. >> dave, a pleasure. thanks. nice to meet you on the phone. i'm sorry. i was misinformed as to your first name. >> no problem. >> pleasure to make the acquaintance. >> lawyers for director roman polanski will fight any attempts to bring him to the united states to face a 1977 conviction for having sex with a 1-year-old

girl. let's go to donna friesen who is in zurich, switzerland. i understand an attempt to get secretary of state hillary clinton involved in this? >> the foreign ministers of poland and france have come forward and say they are going to request that the secretary of state hillary clinton grant clemency to roman polanski. i can't imagine where that's going to go. i'm not sure that the secretary of state necessarily would want to intervene in a case like this but nonetheless that is the request. the reason it's france and poland is polanski born in france and moved to poland when he was 3 and grew up there. both countries fighting in his corner. he is now in custody in switzerland. he came here yesterday to attend a zurich film festival and expected to receive a hiven time achievement award and very solid representation for his classic films and he won a oscar in 2002 for "the pianist."

though he didn't go to the united states to pick that up. solid reputation in the film industry. people are shocked 32 years after the offense he has now been arrested particularly since he has not been in hiding. he has been trafg traveling around europe and working and making films and come to switzerland many times and he has a house here. no one can quite figure out why this happened now. the l.a. district attorney's office saying he is a fugitive, they knew he was coming to this film festival, they had time to get the dimt diplomatic processes in place to apprehend him. he is now in custody pend this extradition process and his lawyer said he will fight it every step of the way. a 16-year-old honor roll student beaten to death allegedly by gang members on his way home from school. the beating was captured on cell phone and turned over to a chicago tv station who then in turn gave it to police.

nbc's mike taibbi joins me now. >> last thursday afternoon outside a community center, a fight involving several dozen kids allegedly from rival gangs around finger high school where albert was a junior there. you see in the video now they set upon him with long boards. he was kicked and stomped while he was on the ground. some students saying they are killing him, calling for an ambulance. others frankly giggling and laughing at that time. he was carried away and pronounced dead later on. police have four students they are questioning and none have been charged. three are 17 or older so they would be charged as adults if they are and the other is a minor. that investigation is still continuing and outgrowth of the continuing gang violence in chicago. >> how is his family reacting today? >> obviously, they are just shocked by this. this was a kid who as you say was an honor student. he was extremely steerious about school and enthusiastic where he

talked about it every day with members of his family who now instead of having those discussions are planning for his funeral. >> really incredible video there. as you said, there were some people it looked like trying to intervene and stopped the fight from happening in the first place, then to try and get in and stop them from beating albert and it just didn't happen. >> evidence of how difficult it is to stop the fights to prevent them. a -- his mother went to the meeting of parents of murdered children and at the meeting were hundred dollars of other parents. amazing. >> i can't imagine. mike, thanks. after keeping him under wraps for 14 years the fbi released videotape showing the oklahoma city bombing in 1995. the tape shows people racing to the scene but don't show the explosion that killed 168 people. there is controversy here. the attorney whose lawsuit forced the tape's release say the tapes go blank several minutes before the blast and he

appears they appear to be edi d edited. he says it's proof that the fbi doesn't want people to be seen has been edited out of those tapes. last week's heavy rain is still causing problems in georgia. a car in a sink hole after someone moved traffic cones marking the problem area. driver want hurt. crews say the water last week created the sink hole. hospitals are creating to meet the surge of the swine flu. one hospital in tennessee taken unusual set to set up a tent to treat people hit by the virus. nbc's janet shamlian in tennessee. >> tents are set up concerned that kids might have swine flu. why are they doing this? kids coming into this hospital have doubled in the last couple of months. they have seen some 5,000 and the emergency room here just can't handle that. now when parents come in, they can be evaluated in this tent

and if it's necessary, then be admitted to the hospital. most children, in fact, though, are sent home with directions for perhaps tylenol, get some rest and stay home from school for a couple of days. only about a hundred of the more than 5,000 students who come through here in the last two months have actually been knitted to the hospital. this is one creative way that hospitals are trying to deal with this outbreak of the h1n1 virus. it is important to note they have had two deaths here this month. two children died having the h1n1 virus but officials are quick to point out both children are preexisting and serious medical conditions. so they're seeing about 350 kids a day come through here on some of the busiest days and that is double than what the emergency room normally processes and the tent will stay open as long as it's needed. now back to you. >> janet shamlian reportering. a medical marijuana festival went off as planned this weekend in california. except that the fact that the

organizers forgot to get the permits needed to lift that no smoking ban at the festival site but officials let it slide. no citations were issued. in case you're curious here, w.a.m. is a nonprofit collective for severely ill medical patients who use medical marijuana and apparently they give this festival every year. >> thank you very much, contessa. when we come bite right back our monday matchup. "snl" taking on gadhafi. >> high diplomatic patient. my tent and i were turned away by central park and, worse of all, inglewood, new jersey. >> yes, it takes two to break it down for us. ble. over 300 prescriptions are just four dollars. four dollars. imagine that. indulge in endless choices of your favorite shrimp.

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something called the monday more than matchup and it was so much fun, yes, we thought we would do it again. so much covered by moammar

gadhafi speech and also the spelling of his name. the funniest came on "saturday night live." take a look and see if you can tell the difference between the real gadhafi and the spoof. >> i am here to apologize for my speech on wednesday. it was so long and so rambling and it didn't make any sense. >> translator: somebody who by the name of lee harvey. >> translator: the swipe -- the swipe book. >> translator: i watched a tape of it and i was like who is that guy? as i mentioned in my speech wednesday, i'm suffering from extreme jet lag. >> translator: all of you are tired having jet lag, suffering from jet lag, tired, had sleepless night. >> translator: it is 9:00 a.m. here, it is 3:00 p.m. there. >> translator: i wake up at 4:00 before dawn because in libya, it is 11:00 in the morning. >> translator: no man who is six hours away from where his

natural body clock is telling him where he is can be held to account for his words of action and making matters worse the computer crashed so i had to write a speech at the last minute on loose-leaf paper and that made me look crazy. >> translator: then -- >> translator: take my computer to an ip specialist but without going into too many details there were things on the computer that i would not want anyone to see. and, no, it was not terrorist stuff. it was just god stuff. >> translator: this was not -- and there should be -- >> translator: the flu is coming and you can stop it. >> translator: this swine virus may be one of shos viruses that were committed in the laboratory and it got out of control. >> translator: in closing, i think obama is a great man of

africa. >> translator: we are content and happy if obama can stay as the president of america. >> translator: okay. they are giving me the wrap it up sign. >> translator: that's a wrap. good night. >> for me, it's tough but i still think the real gadhafi is the best gadhafi. >> the best gadhafi? >> no question. the robe and i'm sorry, can we discuss the plastic surgery and the green color? even -- couldn't match that. >> i'm impressive because he really nailed it. they really don't do strict caricatures. he got the mannerisms down and it's easier to poke fun but you can't do ahmadinejad because he is too scary. gadhafi, it's there and right for comedy. >> i wish they would be able to

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morning. every day we are out there railing against the banks and criticizing those who take our money, so who better to create a project to protect our money than martha with a little piggy bank to keep all of our money safe. take a look. >> okay. so now put your little spots on this. this is black craft paper torn into little scraps. >> this is my worst nightmare having to keep up with you. >> what? cover that. cover that with the glue. you have to keep covering it. >> oh, this? all right. >> this will all dry and then you will use a craft glue but this is going to all dry and you are going to be left with your beautiful little piggy. then with a exacto knife, cut out the task. >> how did your pig turn out some. >> she is just going and think about this. while the s.e.c. was chasing martha stewart around, bernie madoff, the banks and they want to put her in jail? it's a joke. >> did you mention the generational theft when you were

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