>> pat, you ran for the presidency, so you must have a president mind set. should we hold what we have now or reduce? what would you do if you had to be president right now? >> as of right now, i would not commit the 45,000 troops general mcchrystal wants. i don't think he's made them a case. i have not seen it, that this will do the job, i think this is a first bet and we're starting up the road to more and more troops and i don't think ultimately it can be successful and i'm not even sure it would be worth it. >> inside the war room, all the men there to make the decisions. you've got secretary clinton there, you've got rahm emanuel there, you got joe biden, you got the president, this is a policy judgment. what do you think is going to happen? >> if my eyesight is correct, i think david axelrod is there too

as i look at the photo. he is the political guy. so, yes, this is a political thing, they're not just looking at the boots on the ground and the situation in afghanistan itself, they're looking at how to define the mission both strategically and politically. and joe biden is the key, he says hold. >> this is the hot et cetera issue in our country. join us tomorrow at 5:00 and 7:00 eastern. keith olbermann starts right now. which of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow? 122 more americans died today because they don't have health insurance. on the way to 44,000 more americans dying this year because they don't have health insurance. and democratic congressman alan grayson gets criticized for saying this.

>> remember, the republican plan, don't get sick, and if you do get sick, die quickly. >> asked for an apology, grayson says stick it. >> i apologize to them and their families that we haven't voted sooner to end this holocaust in america. >> otherwise he is 100% correct, the republican plan is don't get sick. and republicans and milquetoast democrats in the pockets of the insurance agencies might as well be killing people right now. ariana huffington on the latest politics. and senator jay rockefeller reveals exclusively on "countdown" an amendment he will introduce to make it law that insurance companies have to spend a minimum percentage on actual health care, not profits or advertising or salaries for their henchmen. incitement to violence. there is a remote although gaining possibility america's

military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the obama problem. is this still free speech, or is it now an illegal call for the violent overthrow of a landfal y landfall -- lawfully elected government. their prayer began deliver us oh, god, but lonesome road says it was deliver us obama. okay god, hear our cry, obama. what was that sonny? and phony outrage, the president tries to talk the international olympic committee into picking chicago and thus boosting chicago's economy, so boehner says. >> the president is going to go out to copenhagen when we have got serious issues here at home that need to be debated. >> 24 hours or less, as opposed to, say, the four days bush went to the olympics last year so he could sit is there and watch. all that and more now on

"countdown." good evening from new york, quoting republican congressman roy blunt, the gop point man on an alternative health care plan from june 17, i guarantee you we will provide you with a bill. 105 days later, still waiting for the republican proposal on health care reform. all they have managed to produce so far is manufactured outrage from congressman alan grayson doing nothing to defeat reform is nothing more than being determined to kill people. saying on the floor of the house last night and the republicans do have a plan and it's the height of let them eat cakism. >> very simply, it's a very simple plan. here it is. the republicans health care plan for america, don't get sick.

that's right, don't get sick. if you have insurance, don't get sick, if you don't have insurance, don't get sick, if you're sick don't get sick, just don't get sick. that's what the republicans have in mind for you, america, that's the republicans health care plan. but i think that the republicans understand that that plan isn't always going to work. it's not a foolproof plan, so the republicans have a backup plan in case you do get sick. if you get sick in america, this is what the republicans want you to do. if you get sick, america, the republican health care plan is this, die quickly. >> republicans calling for an apology from congressman grayson, tom price republican of georgia preparing a privilege resolution stating that mr. grayson's behavior was a breach in decor rum in the house. the same words the democrats --

joint address to congress earlier this month. republicans now demanding from mr. grayson an apology to congress. something mr. wilson has not yet done, so this afternoon congressman grayson complied and ripped them another new one. >> immediately after that speech, several republicans asked me to apologize. well, i would like to apologize, i would like to apologize to the dead. and here's why. according to this study, health insurance and mortality in u.s. adults which was published two weeks ago, 44,789 americans die every year because they have no health insurance. let's remember that we should care about people even after they're born. so i call upon the democratic members of the house, i call upon the republican members of the house, i call upon all of us to do our jobs for the sake of america, for the sake of those dying people and their families, i apologize to the dead and their families that we haven't

voted sooner to end this holocaust in america. >> about mr. grayson's reference, caring about people even after they were born, the members of the senate finance committee voting 13-10 an amendment by republican hatch of utah that would restrict health insurance for anyone getting an abortion in insurance co-ops. the only member of the republicans voted to defeat the amendment. senators rockefeller and schumer who proposed those amendments have vowed to deep trying and health care reform makes it through congress. senator rockefeller so join us. ariana huffington, good evening i think congressman grayson should not have used the word holocaust. otherwise i'm applauding him. what do you think. >> i agree with you on both

counts. i think the word holocaust should not have been used, he doesn't need any hyperbole, he has facts on his side, he has truth on his side, he should speak to the truth and i agree with you, and they were the holocaust is simply a distraction and should not have been used. but apart from that, you know, grayson has been -- on so many fronts, on the health care front and the financial scandal, he's been demanding accountability towards the feds. he's been demanding that corporate groups have held accountable and we should not allow him to distract us from his true leadership in the congress. >> is this the first crack in the rhetorical dam which the democrats have not been able to put through at this point? >> you know, there's something very powerful when he stands

there and says the truth on two counts. first of all, the republicans says no health care plan, and secondly, they have no empathy, that was really what he was saying, he doesn't really care. in fact he made it very clear, they're making it clear every day that they would oppose anything, it's not about the specifics, it's about wanting to oppose the reform, wanting a political victory, wanting to undermine the president and the democratic majority. >> the alleged parallels to joe wilson, mr. grayson did not interrupt anybody let alone a president, mr. wilson has not apologized to congress and they want apology to congress. mr. wilson was factually wrong in claiming that the president was lying about coverage for illegal immigrants. how many ways is that analogy between grayson and wilson a false equivalency? >> it's a completely false equivalency, as you said, not only did joe wilson do something

unprecedented, but he also he's also calling the president. and what is sad is that it is distracting us from this very real debate. >> and yet you wonder, does the debate not about what grayson said and the terms he used, but that issue, that sort of starkly defining what the republicans have to offer in this, or in this case don't have to offer, is that not essential to the rest of this debate? >> well, what is essential is to stress the tremendous need that the american people have for some real fundamental health care reform and congressman grayson referred to a study that just came out makes it clear that there is a connection between the lack of health insurance and people dying.

i believe in the very significant point that he was making. >> 122 more every day, and this was a day so 122 more today. arianna huffington of huffington post, thank you as always. the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream shall never die. and two democratic governors has used new tacks to take on health reform. let's turn to senator j. rockefeller a democrat of west virginia and a member of that finance committee. >> let's start with your news, senator franken introduced something he has titled the fairness act of 2009, you have adapted it into the form of an amendment. tell me what it is and what's your trying to do. >> it's very simple, i really don't believe at all this is about politics and process, i think it's about how people are treated, do they get health care

through their insurance or do they not? do the insurance companies make so much money that it means they're not giving health care to the people. the answer to that is yes. so my amendment will be very simple, along with franken, al franken, and that is that over half of the health care bill in the senate is spent on subsidies for the insurance companies, over half, $485 billion. so that todhey can take in more customers and presumably do more business and make more profits. i think it's got to be about people and not about profits. and therefore my amendment which i may offer tonight because we're still in session is going to say that 90% of all of the money that the insurance companies get from these subsidies, $485 billion in the senate finance mark, that they have to spend that on health care and that the secretary of health and human services will monitor that. they have to spend it on health care, they can't spends it on

administrative expenses and salaries, they have to spend it on health care. don't worry about them, that's 10% they have got left over, that's $49 billion, that's not so bad. but they have been ripping off the american consumers and they have been putting profits before people and in west virginia, you just don't do that. >> but if you can't get a public option at this point, how are you going to get max baucus to anger the insurance companies by ever so slightly treating them as if they merited the kind of public oversight as, say, the casinos in vegas? >> i think it's a very hard vote to vote no. i don't know how he's going to vote, and that's his decision. but if you say they're going to make $49 billion on this, but to take that much money off of almost a half a trillion dollars and give it all to them and let

them have it is 25, 30, 35 million more people pouring into the health insurance market, as we insure them, i think that's unfair and unreasonable without their committing to spend 90% of that, the house has it 85%. 90% of that on delivering health care and proving that to secretary of health and human services. it's a fair amendment. it's simple, it's fair and it's tough. and it's tough,'re not going to take a lot. >> all the people that voted for it last night had a little press conference and people kind of laughed at it, we didn't, i mean we do feel a sense of momentum. it's the only time in the history of the senate anybody's ever talked about this. we debated this one public option in my amendment for 4 1/2 hours, that's never happened. so a lot of people now are looking at all the democrats who

did vote for it and we're not going to get a lot of republicans votes, but we're accustomed to that. i think we can get this and i think the president needs to help and i think everybody needs to pitch in and work harder than they have been. and i look forward to it because it's the only way that people could be really sure they can afford to get health care in the future. the only way, otherwise they're at the mercy of the insurance companies. >> without getting too deeply into the weeds of terminology, congressman grayson said that the only republican plan is don't get sick. do you think that's an important point for him to make? >> i'm not going to get into that, i want to pass my amendment. >> thank you, senator. thanks for reveelg the details ofa amendment. so where were the swing democrats yesterday on the public option vote? right where they were supposed to be in the pockets of the insurance companies. marcus value lensa joins me. i mentioned a couple of times on the air here that my father is

ill, the last few days have been critical to his recovery and i have been fortunate of being able to be with him at the expense of not being able to be here. i expect this to happen again and the men behind the scenes that did such yeomen work. i know there's some aspects about me not being here that they really like. the most recent news is very encouraging, the people working with him from the specialists to the nurses to the x ray techs have been phenomenal. and later on i plan to give them further thanks. but to protect his privacy, i'm not going to say what hospital he's at. i took a picture so that they would recognize me. brian if you would show that please. okay, there it is, dr. kill patient, by the way if there is such a thing as a conclusive argument that we need health care reform in this country, you're looking at it right there. profits...

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health care system from the front lines, i can confirm that there's madness in the hmt care debate. i have met no one from patients to administrators to family who thinks the current system works let alone works well. no one believes that the incredible financial burdens and fears are not interfering with the natural ability of patients to get better. a democratic controlled senate committee could not get the public option passed. eight democrats supported the rockefeller amendment that would have created a medicare like public option. but all ten republicans voted against it. senator max baucus, kent conrad, blanch lincoln, tom carper, bill nelson. the amendment offered by chuck schumer also failed thanks to baucus, conrad and lincoln. it should be noted that when the gop was the majority party, he was more than willing to pass

crucial legislation with a simple majority when necessary. in 1991, republicans passed 13% of legislation, the democrats passed about 7% of its bills without that 60-vote supermajority. the author of taking on the system, good evening. >> glad you're back and best of wishes to your father. >> do you think blanch lincoln. just as an example, has ever sat in a recovery room half praying for they loved one and half hoping they have the money to get through it. >> probably the most endangered senate democrat in 2010. so she's in a lot of trouble. two, the public option is very popular in arkansas, by a 3-2 margin, so you would think if you're sitting on the outside, you think, well, if you have

trouble getting elected, do the popular thing and that will help you, right? lincoln votes against the public option and against almost 60% of her constituents. it makes no sense, and, keith, i don't know how you begin to explain something like that because a lot of democrats have a really hard time not just doing the right thing, but doing the popular thing, what is the right popular thing? i can't explain it. >> is arkansas the state where three-quarters of insurances is handled by one of the main insurers and they determine who gets what in politics if she was going to be elected by one of the insurance companies as opposed to the citizens of arkansas. >> that's probably the only explanation that makes any sense. but at the end of the day, you're running as a republican, real republicans, they're not going to vote for you, they're going to vote for the real ones. if republicans think that you're not with them, why should they bother voting. >> what is the president's straty right now, do you know?

>> i don't think anybody knows there,'s enough mixed signals coming out of the white house where you can really support any theory. there's the aoptimist that will say he's going to work behind the scenes and work with the senate conference committee to insert a robust public option and then fight for it. the pessimist will say that obama wants to sign anything that comes out of congress just so he can declare victory and move on to the next issue. i don't know which side is right, i don't think anybody really knows and it depends on how i feel that day. >> what do you think about those who come out of the white house and says victory is health care reform, whether it's 10% of what should be done or 100% of what should be done, that the defeat is leaving the status quo unchanged rather than doing some now, some next year, some the year after that, as often as you can. >> i might have some sympathy

for that line if the bad case scenario wasn't so absolutely horrid. right now we're talking about the compromise position is that there's mandates that people are forced to buy insurance, but they have to buy it from the crappy insurance companies that has created this problem to begin with. so to me there can be nothing worse than telling these young people that really were so hopeful and supportive of obama that you're not going to get the change you wanted, but you're going to have to send your hard earned dollars to the insurance carriers. >> make you do it. >> that's a step backwards, absolutely. >> if the president isn't the one applying the pressure to the democrats, where is the necessary leverage supposed to come from. there's you and me and the people who watch and participate, we are only so many. >> there is a lot of grass roots opposition to eliminating the public option. don't kid yourself, they would have gotten rid of the public

option a long time ago along with singer payer if they had been given the opportunity to do so. so there's a lot of support for the public option. not only from grass roots media but from labor unions. but those 50 to 60 house democrat progressives who have said they will not vote for any women witho bill without a robust public option. he cannot do that if the house progressives vote against a bad bill. and as long as they stay strong, and so far so good. >> marcus moulitsas. thank you. there's no rational left wing website. no irrational 4re69 wing web side ever did so. yet here is news max with a picture of glenn beck on its cover claiming it is -- here is

news max writing in a kind of mundane, daydreamy way, quote, imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the constitution to an interim constitution that will would the serious business of defending and governing the business. news max, you imaginee1 that. i imagine a timothy mcveigh reading that crap. up in lines and actually make you look older. simply ageless makes you look amazing. from olay and easy, breezy, beautiful covergirl. but what we can do is arm ourselves... for the ones we love with a flu shot from walgreens. ♪ ( coughs ) ♪ ( sneezes ) we're making it easy for everyone to get their flu shot, no matter how small their motivation may be. ♪ come get yours for just $24.99. walgreens. there's a way to stay well.

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to insight a military coup. and why are the republicans decrying a one-day trip at the international olympic committee. they're happy to see president bush take a four-day trip to china to sit on his ass and watch the olympics. best persons in the world, dateline new york. not bothering to check john cook, writing about the fact that eight editions of "countdown" have been hosted by lawrence this month, concluding update. we know where he was on saturday, a tipster sent in the above screen graf. the logo of which is positioned just about on top of olbermann's head, and we have it on good authority that it is not in fact keith olbermann. they got the same tips earlier this week and didn't use it. we knew that, what we didn't know is that debts been checked with olbermann and confirmed that it was him and found that it was not. we should have checked too. although we didn't think so

because doesn't that look exactly like keith olbermann down to the glasses? should we look at the screen grab, i guess that's supposed to be me on the right in the middle picture, as opposed to the woman on the far right, that's sarah palin, i think, maybe it's the blond kid, maybe on the camera. none of those people is me, and we confirmed that yesterday for their corporate parents and they didn't bother to confirm it again. number two, i was not at the yankee game on saturday. fox would not show me at a game or anywhere else on the planet. rupert was right, dateline new york. best revelation of ingrained prejudice. job derbyshire. they want someone to help raise their kids and if men can't inclined to do it, they would like the state to do it for them. among the hopes is that female suffrage will be repealed.

if were to be, i wouldn't lose it in his sleep. the premise that women lean hard to the left politically, because of that women would probably be better off if they did not have the right to vote. women have elected seven democratic presidents but -- number one best indicators just stop trying, the bill o. the clown. ripped o'reilly for defending the racist actors. as heroes of the first amendment. bill responded a little too quickly. tv critic david zurowitch, i am exhausted by thesoid owe logs mass car raiding. bill, have you ever read anything more than what pops up when you goinged your own name?

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on the heels of a survey posted on facebook asking should obama be killed? one right wing columnist has floated the idea of a military coup to unseat the president as if it were not madness, totalitarian and treasonist. there's a remote possibility america will intervene as a last resort to resolve the obama problem.

don't dismiss it as unrealistic. in a column entitled obama risks a domestic military intervention, john l. perry writes as well. military intervention is what obama's fundamental change toward a marksist state. a coup is not an ideal option, but obama's radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible. perry is only describing what may be a foot and not only advocating a military intervention proposes this twisted fantasy, imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the constitution, yeah, by overthrowing it through an interim administration that would do the business -- of governing and defending the nation, killed military trained nation builders would replace the accountability challenged

commissars. curious considering mr. perry's by line at the bottom of his column, john l. perry is a regular columnist for news max.com. and in case that isn't clear, perry has been a regular columnist for newsmax since 1999. it continues the secret service is now skregting the threat and the developer of the online application that was used to create the survey has come forward, telling politico there is definitely in this culture of paranoia and fear, both sides are reacting in extreme ways, people carrying guns to down hall meetings, that's scary people carrying guns to town. posting such a poll cools and calms the situation? another idiot. joining me now another washington editor for the nation, chris hayes. please tell me that even the newsmax crowd with his ann coulter e-mail alerts and it's

ads for free handguns, millionaire patriots and handguns, even these people have to -- military overthrow of a united states government. >> i think if there's a silver lining in this little story, it's the fact that they did take it down from the website. maybe there are -- and it was a bloodless coup, one should know that it was a bloodless coup, one should know it was very gentlemanly what he proposed. it's not the kind of thing that should be in the normal course of our political discussion about a path forward, even among genuine ideal logs. so i think it was actually a good sign they took it down. >> you're being very generous. reports that the republican national committee provides financial support to newsmax by using their e-mail list serves. when we hear michael steele denounce this column or anyone else with deposed authority somebody driving the car. >> that's not going to happen,

this is actually a game that the right plays really well. which is they're constantly finding -- remember that move on, moveon has an open contest and someone sends in 2,000 videos and there was some momentarily hitler image that. became a national news story for a week in which you had calls from democrats to denounce movemove. newsmax is fringy and out there, but it's part of news machine. there's all kinds of right wingers that are soishted with it. it's sort of immeshed in the businessnd of the rnc. if that's the way, if that's the standard in which it's going to be applied, in which they denounced t denounced the ideal logs. >> you're going to break in

there with burt lancaster. is there a real hope of provocation like this, not that some general might be a reincarnation of burt lancaster. the character he played, no offense to berutter lancaster. they could use the response as something to campaign against the democrats in the midterms. >> who knows? it strikes me that it's probably not that thought out. there is -- i mean i was listening to taylor branch talk about this book that he just did in talking to the clintons. it reminds me that there really was a period of an actual movement of violent sort of insurrection in this country during the clinton years. it was provoked at a time at a time that was far left intense and sort of understress at the moment we find ourselves in right now, and i tend to be a

free speech absolutist about all this. but at the same time, it's disconcerting how easily we have forgtsen that militia moment in american history, and the sort of edging toward that kind of rhetoric that we're seeing now. >> if there's another timothy mcveigh, he will get his idea from something like this if not this. and keep fighting that fight as they come through your door there. >> best wishes to your dad, keith. >> thank you very much, sir. -- jobs it will produce for chicago. but mitt romney can run for president based on how well he supposedly ran the 2002 olympics in salt lake city. and they're not praying hear our cry obama, they're praying hear our cry oh, god and lou dobbs is too stupid or tooet ethically

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obama tries to pitch the international olympic committee on chicago for the 2016 games and the republicans say he has no right to waste a day doing so. when bush wasted four days going to the olympics in china as a guy just sitting there. seriously? number two story worst persons in the world. arizona congressman trent frank, at the take back america contest who compared obama to hitler and none of the congressman walked out. congressman franks not only didn't walk out he demanded to see his birth certificate and said he has no place in any station of government a.

regardless, if you are as far from main stream american as congressman franks is as to feed that raw meat to insane lions, knowing it's not true and doing it only to gain political capital--the sooner you resign or apologize, which every is your choice. our runner up, lonesome roads beck, were blown up in a bombing and when freedom of speech is being squelched--the towers were pulled down using a heavy equipment excavator. it was called ecoterrorism and the reason it was done was because residents protested that it was a public nuisance. and they can hear it over their

phones. this was ecoterrorism. i don't speak for the left, and i condemn it completely. but beck left out that krko is an all sports station. it airs the dan patrick show, the tony bruno show, tim rome, chris myers and vancouver canucks hockey. nice work, beck. this was not somebody protesting content. well maybe about dan, i don't know. but our winner, lou dobbs, now officially part of the right wing echo chamber after repeating one of the most hilarious mistakes ever made by the usual suspects. they got a tape of community organizers open a meeting with a prayer saying deliver us oh, god. but starting with these welcome back jobs, they decided to lie and say that the people were saying hear our cry, obama, and deliver us obama. they wanted their sheep to

believe community organizers were praying to obama. well, there are certainly are sheep out there. a stunning news uncovered by the good folks at breitbart. go to loudobbs.com to see our full video, we urge you to see it because it exposes again, very dangerous forces at work in this country supporting our supreme leader. now this video shows members of the community organizing group gamaliel foundation literally praying to our supreme leader over health care back in december of 2008. you've got to hear this. that is a remarkable -- that is a remarkable. you've got to see this. go to lou dobbs.com to see the whole tape. it will, i guarantee you, put

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or visit boniva.com our number one story, the right wing chorus ripping the president for bringing the olympics back to america. the one day this this president is devoting to the effort kind of pales in comparison to the four days that the last president spent at the olympics as a fan. the president will leave for

copenhagen tomorrow night, he'll speak to the ioc the following morning and right after immediately return. president bush you'll remember took in the olympic games last year, fighting two wars on the brink of economic collapse, he found time, four days of it to enjoy the games and spanked the volleyball players. >> president obama is heading to denmark this week to help sway the international olympic committee. >> vancouver lost how much was it they lost? they lost a billion dollars when they had the olympics. how is the city of chicago and illinois that is broke going to benefit? >> the opening ceremonies for the vancouver olympics are on february 12, 2010. they can't have lost our made anything because it hasn't happened yet, biff. and then there's the official

republican mouthpieces, michael steele on a conference call with reporters yesterday. >> the goal should be creating, you know, not job opportunities seven years from now, but job opportunities today. and if the priority is the olympics in seven years, okay, then tell the nation that's the priority and that's what we should be focused on because we'll create jobs then and we won't worry about it between now and 2016. >> you have jobs now building stuff for seven years from now. they don't put up the olympics overnight like a circus tent. and mark boehner picked up on the anti-olympic stupidity. >> he's the president of the united states, not the mayor of chicago and the problems we have here at home affect all americans and that's where his attention ought to be. >> i'm joined again by robert reiche.

thank you for your time tonight sir you want to briefly explain that complex economic principle that argues against mr. steele's belief that the olympics starting in the summer of 2016 only means jobs start in the summer of 2016? >> it's not terribly complicated, what we know from previous olympics like 1996 in atlanta or salt lake city, we know that almost immediately after the olympic decision is made, there are jobs and a lot of jobs, construction and infrastructure and sales and marketing, white dollar, blue collar jobs, this is a jobs machine, starts right away. >> sports and economic analysis are always dangerous things to mix especially when it comes to pro sports. do you think the games in chicago would boost the economy? >> i think boosting the economy is what we have seen in previous olympics. an independent study done by the dean of the business school of cal state, california in sacramento, found about $22.5 billion of net new economic

activity in the chicago area, but also the entire great lakes area from the olympics. so that's a big amount of money. >> the white house press secretary mr. gibbs was asked about mr. steel's comments and he responded with his own question, who is he rooting for? was the white house successful in framing this? i mean as republicans criticize the trip, they're in fact rooting against america? >> not only rooting against america, keith, but i think rooting against american workers, we're talking here about jobs at a time when american workers really need jobs, and i'm afraid that some republicans may be a little insensitive to that fact. >> august of last year, the economy was already giving it's gurgles has it approached the drain, we have wars in two countries, and yet president bush spent four days in china, opening ceremonies and so to speak back flapping the athletes, double standard between that situation and the current one. >> i think there's a little bit of a double standard, i think