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right now on "msnbc sunday," a deadly day in afghanistan. a surprise attack by hundreds of taliban fighters on u.s. troops. we have a live report ahead. iran with nuclear become know-how? a new report says that country has information to produce a workable atomic bomb. court date. the alleged stalker appears before a judge. hear what the man's lawyer says about his client. plus -- >> for every person who buys an american car in the next six months, you are going to get one of these. >> okay. spoofing the president. "saturday night live" with the take on the president obama checklist of sorts. a good morning to you. i'm alex witt. we have that and the five myths of the economic recovery, what are they? we'll answer those questions.
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but first, one of the deadliest days of u.s. troops in afghanistan. eight u.s. soldiers were killed when taliban forces attacked a military outpost near the border of pakistan. the taliban claimed responsibility for that attack. for more on this, i'm joined by tom asbaugh. tell us what happened. >> reporter: good morning. apparently large numbers of taliban, some 300 fighters came out of a mos income a village attacking two positions. they first attacked the lower position, killing eight american soldiers. no word yet on the number of wounded but they also captured 15 afghani police and then attacked the higher of the two positions and the americans apparently had to call in air strikes in order to break up that attack. roads to that area have been cut. we have no more word from there yet but the military saying it is one of the biggest battles of the war so far. alex? >> tom, do we know if the area is secure? any possibility of another
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attack? >> reporter: well, it's known to be a difficult area and certainly a haven for al qaeda. there are very few roads through there so the possibility of another attack is very high. alex? >> okay. how about injuries? you said eight kill ds. do we know the numbers of injured? >> reporter: no word yet on any of the wounded in that battle but as i mentioned some afghan police and including two of the senior officers also captured and looks like it was the kind of battle getting into close quarters where they can capture people. could be some american injured coming out of that later, alex. >> tom, this believed to be the response to the increase in troop levels? >> reporter: well, lately, the americans saying they would prefer to have the troops out of those isolated areas, and into the villages and the cities rather. into the afghan cities and towns and hand over those outlyine duties to afghan forces. particularly along the border with pakistan, a major supply route there so i would say that once the increased troop numbers
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start going into the country, they'll start rearranging the troops into other the areas but not really known why the taliban chose this particular position to attack at the moment but it's certainly giving them a propaganda victory attracting more recruits to their cause. >> thank you, tom. we'll more on this developing story ahead. j we'll have another report at the top of the hour. iran's president said he will net u.n. inspectors in to see the newly-relegaled nuclear facility on november 25th. "the new york times" reports that iran has the information that it needs to build a nuclear bomb. i'm joined live from the white house by mike viqueira. good morning to you, mike. >> reporter: good morning, alex. >> let's get the information and the challenge for president obama now. >> reporter: two things. there was a report floating around in a u.n. agency called the iaea in charge of inspecting
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nuclear facilities around the world, party to a nonproliferation treaty and the report in "the new york times" says that today iran has the capability to design and produce a nuclear bomb. while at the same time the chief of that same agency is in teheran meeting with iranian nuclear officials announcing that the inspectors will visit that site revealed so dramatically, of course, by the leaders of united states, france and jermny. i'm sorry, and great britain. they will be allowed to visit the site will the inspectors on october the 25'd. all along defense secretary gates said iran about one to three years in his estimation from being able to produce a nuclear bomb. and now this new information is going to add urgency to these talks. of course, they're ongoing. they met face to face did the united states and allies last week to discuss the nuclear
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program, alex. >> they did indeed. thanks very much, alex. today on nbc, a "meet the press" exclusive. susan rice sits down with david gregory. check your local nbc listings. the search continues for a 16-year-old who disappeared while riding her bicycle in nevada. family members say that she had gone out for a bike ride and when she did not return they called police. officers found the bike the next afternoon a quarter mile away from the teen's home. police say they're following up on hundreds of secret witness calls and other potential leads. >> there was a case about a week, week and a half ago in cold springs where it's a report a male tried to tell a couple of girls on bicycles to come talk to him in a car and we're following up on that. >> police believe foul play was involved in the disappearance and police and volunteers going door to door for information
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looking in foreclosed homes, as well, for clues. a twist in the case of a newborn baby kidnapped from the nashville home and found in alabama. baby anthony is in state custody after briefly reunited with his mother this weekend and the three older siblings in state custody. a smokesman for the tennessee children family services says the children were taken for safety reasons and gave no additional details. meantime, police arrested tammy silas. the newborn's mother says the woman came to the nashville home tuesday posing as an immigration agent, stabbed her eight times and took her baby. police found the newborn in silas' home in alabama. the mother is recovering. a bit of calm after another deadly typhoon pounds the philippines. authorities say fie toon parma killed a dozen people and flooded villages saturday. authorities fear it would dump more rain on the country reeling from a deadly typhoon last week.
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at least 300 tomorrow-related deaths are reported in manila. the flooding is said to be the worst in four decades. rescue and recovery efforts continue today. new details in the case of a man accused of secretly videotaping a sports reporter in a motel room. it was in tennessee and wisconsin. the colleague of nbc is joining us now with the latest developments and with a good morning to you. i understand the suspect is appeared before a judge? >> reporter: indeed he has. 48-year-old michael barrett behind bars after appearing in a chicago courtroom this weekend. he faces federal charges of interstate stalking for allegedly taking nude videos of espn sideline reporter erin andrews while she was in hotel rooms. authorities believe that barrett called several hotels the find out where andrews was staying and requested a room next to her. barrett is accused of trying to
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sell the videos to celebrity website tmz and posting them online. after yesterday's court appearance, barrett's attorney talked to reporters outside the courthouse. his attorney says he's known barrett for years and calls him a regular guy and a great friend. >> i don't think mike's ever had a parking lot before in his life so these are obviously serious allegations and they're going to be taken seriously and we'll deal with the allegations at the appropriate time. >> law enforcement officials arrested barrett friday night at chicago's o'hare airport arriving on a flight from buffalo, new york. meantime, andrews thanked the fbi agents and prosecutors releasing a statement she will, quote, make every effort to strengthen the laws on the state and federal level to better protect victims of criminal stalking. alex? >> okay. so rehema after the court appearance yesterday in chicago, what happens next with barrett? >> up next, scheduled to be back in a courtroom for a bond hearing and the judge ordered
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barrett to be returned to california to face the stalking charges. if he's convicted of this, he could face a max numb of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. >> pretty serious. all right. thank you very much. >> sure. still ahead, the very latest on the david letterman extortion plot. did letterman open up a legal can of worms going public? also, do you think the economy and recovery will happen quickly and do you think consumers are regaining confidence? a guest this morning says, don't bet it. five myths about the recovery just ahead. plus -- >> ♪ because you know, baby i'm your biggest fan ♪ ♪ paparazzi ♪ baby there's no other superstar ♪ >> going gaga on "saturday night live." highlights of lady gaga and the funniest skits. stick around.
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looking ahead to wall street this week. while stocks have been trending higher since march, we'll see more measures on the economy. tuesday, we hear how the services sector is doing from banking to airlines to restaurants. that sector accounts for about 80% of all businesses in the u.s. then own wednesday, a report on consumer credit expected to show americans are spending and charging less. friday's report on the country's trade balance could show americans are losing appetite for imported goods as they keep the wallets closed. for more on the economy and a
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look at the week ahead, let's turn to rick newman, chief correspondent with "u.s. news & and world report." unemployment at 8.9%, does this mean the government takes further steps to generate jobs? are we talking the chances of another stimulus. >> we are reaching the outer limits of what the government can do to generate jobs. if the government could be more effective, it would be. the unemployment rate will probably keep going on and would be over 10% if it weren't for people that just have stopped looking for jobs and basically fallen out of the labor force so i think if there's a second stimulus, which might happen by early next year, it is not the extravaganza we saw this year, you know, $787 billion. it's probably going to be things like an extension of unemployment benefits. there's a $8,000 credit for buying a new home. they may extend that and other things like that. ease the pain a little bit. >> unemployment and the credit
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market, what's the relationship and worsening job forecast, how does that affect credit? >> people that don't have a job have a harder time paying off the loans and, in fact, happening and that's one of the major reasons that banks are seeing many, many more defaults on consumer loans. so that means banks effectively losing a lot of money on consumer loans and losing that money, that's one of several reasons they're actually reining in loans and not lending money the way they used to because of all the problem loans that are worse, not better. >> okay. you recently looked at an article about five myths. >> right. >> of the economic recovery. we you on late if we get them all a. recovery will be quick and xhint. when's the snit. >> we want recessions to end neatly and tidily and they don't. they end in a sloppy way. headlines of things getting better and then suddenly like last week, they're not getting better nearly as quickly as we
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thought or would like. recoveries are stutter step affairs. you get a little bit better and worse and if you're lucky you gradually climb out of it but that leads to another myth which is that the recession is necessarily over. we hope it is. it probably is. but there's a chance we could have a double dip rejegs. >> there is? >> one forecasting firm saying the odds of a double dip are about 30%, less than earlier this year, but that's a lot higher than we would like it, i think. >> what about this myth of consumers regaining confidence? >> consumer confidence is very fickle. we have seen the numbers go up somewhat this year and probably very directly related to the stock market. had a great run. but if some of that stuff turns around, i mean, the stock market has now leveled off and dribbled downf that continues, consumer confidence will go down with it. october is the spookiest month for the stock market and people wonder about the october we'll have here. >> real quick, things back to normal. i'd like you to talk about that.
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what is the new normal going to be? the pain is over? no, it's not. look at things back to normal. >> right. so we are going to go back to healthy economy with jobs plentiful and we just get this thing behind us. unlikely. we could be in -- i mean, just look at the predict or thes, so much wealth has been lost in the housing bust and in the stock market crash. stocks still down by a lot. consumers are tapped out. >> yeah. >> we are very unlikely to go back to an idea where we have a robust consumer spending that keeps the economy going. spending's going to have to come from some place else or get used to a more tepid economy, i think. >> rick newman, thank you. >> thanks, alex. we are learning details of the cbs executive. prosecutors say robert halderman desperate and deep in debt. he is out on bond after pleading not guilty to one count of
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attempted first-degree grand larceny. it led david letterman to reveal he had sexual relations with some of the women working with him. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> let's talk about what the company's put out here. david letterman's company. said he didn't violate a rules with the sexual relationships but here's the deal. gray area, right? this is the boss. these people may be age consensual. age appropriate and consenting but let's talk about the gray area there. he is the boss. >> it is the boss. this could be sexual harassment. if the women felt they were forced into it or promotions based on it or no choice to comply with a sexual advances, there's a case. cbs has a manual like all big companies do about sexual harassment. their policy was to have employees sign off on it every single year so at least they -- the employees at least knew that there was a policy. they knew there was a way to complain.
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with that said, people victims of sexual harassment often don't want to come forward. they think they'll get demoted. not have the jobs. when someone put in a power position like that, they shouldn't be involved with employees. >> so i was going to say, from a legal perspective, can a relationship with your boss ever be completely consensual? >> that's a good -- the answer is i'm sure the answer to that is yes. it depends on the boss. it depends on the person that -- the person at the lower tier in the company but it's always a dangerous thing for corporations. >> okay. is there such a thing as a no-harm relationship when it involves a boss, a person of authority? i mean, when does romance cross the line to harassment? i mean, if you're an attorney working on this case, how do you define that line? >> what it comes down to if the woman says they felt they had no choice. in this case, the woman. there is liability here. cbs is going to be liable if other employees became aware of
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it. letterman can be liable. i mean, we saw what happened over with bill o'reilly on the fox network. there was some tapes, a lawsuit. my recollection is he paid over $20 million to settle that suit. >> how about this? as a defense attorney, looking at david letterman's history, he had two long-term relationships with people with whom he worked. writers on his show and the like. married the second with whom he had a long relationship. how much do you use that in the defense and say, lock, it is a pool of people what you work with. you're close with. a lot of people will date others they work with. how much do you use that as did he was? >> a lot. the reality is once a person finishes the schooling, gets into the workplace, the people they meet for relationships, that group gets smaller and smaller and it's very common for people to be meeting people at the work force and to get
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involved with each other but with that said the law's very clear that if someone in a position of power takes advantage of that position, for sex, there's liability. >> well, and you know what? i want to be real clear with regards to david letterman. nobody's said anything of sexual harassment at this point but how long will people have time to think about this? do you think it may have people come out of the woodwork and had relationships in the past with? >> i would guess that it may have already come out of the woodwork and in the form of a lawyer's letter to letterman and not to the point of suit yet. often times when people smell money there, they now have a triggering event because now letterman is not going to deny he had affairs with various people. i'd suspect within the next year to three months we'll see a case or two. >> okay. thanks so much. up next, new insight into the president's decision to head to copenhagen to make the
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is already turning against this war. it's arguable it could feed thought among the public to send more troops, we are getting outnumbered an outgunned and the soldiers are getting killed. i think it's also possible, however, to add to the skepticism among the public and in the white house and makes this argument for sending more troops and getting more involved perhaps politically more difficult. >> okay. let's leave that for now. we'll talk more about that later. right now i want to go to what we're learning about the u.n. inspectors going to iran on october 25th. iran's president says president obama will be sorry for questioning the intentions for this plant. what would happen if they find something they don't like and what happens if everything looks okay? >> well, if they found something they don't like, like evidence that they were enriching uranium for p withes, clearly, the united states and the coalition, britain, russia, china, germany would have to ratchet up and
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france -- i'm sorry -- would have to ratchet up the pressure. either go straight to what some people have called extraordinary sanctions or consider the other actions to press them to drop this program. i suspect iran with given two weeks is not pushing evidence into the laboratory making it easy for the inspectors to find. >> what about the copenhagen decision? there was all this buzz. the intelligence according to valerie jar vet we have very close, therefore, well worth our efforts. the message of a personal appeal from the president to make a big difference. would the president make the trip if he didn't think it was a lock? did someone give him bad intel? >> maybe the white house is not the best vote counters. it is a basic political skill here in washington. maybe they weren't so good at it in the olympic committee. i was told by an insider in copenhagen the day before it was
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down to chicago and rio but this person told me, the important thing to add is this is a secret brake light and it is like congressional leadership elections in the united states. it's a secret ballot and everyone lies about who they vote for. i think they were a little cocky. rahm e moonall the day before the vote saying we'll give tickets even to enemies to show up for the olympics in chicago. bottom line, they didn't count the votes very well. >> this is a bottom line for sure. thank you so much. >> my pleasure. still ahead, more on sarah palin's upcoming book. is it still number one? plus those funny folks at "saturday night live" poke fun at the president. the highlights coming up on that. anks for the window seat. oh please. you got the presentation? oh yeah right here. let me stow that for you, sir. thank you. you know, just to be safe i used fedex office print online. oh you did? yeah -- they printed and bound 20 copies of the presentation, shipped it to portland, they're gonna be there waiting for us.
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produce atom bomb. i'm joined by senior adviser at the center for strategic studies in washington and a professor at penn state university. welcome back to the program. good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> what is the biggest thing you are taking away from the report? >> well, the capability of build ago bomb is -- has many fragm t fragments to it and many segments to it. and enrichment is only a small portion of it. but a significant portion of it but it's a minor portion of it and what the report tells us is been able to simulate different cape b89s so that if they want to break through and go for the bomb, they can go for the bomb. that's what the report implies. >> okay. saying sufficient information what exactly do they mean by that? is it the recipe? i mean, not to put it down to such common terms but what does it mean and are the conclusions tentative? >> i believe the conclusions are relatively tentative because the recipe you can get from the web.
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it's not just a recipe. it is a question of whether or not they have the capability of basically cooking it using your analogy. >> so why is there a tentative or a liability of this report being questioned right now? >> well, if you look at the difference between what has happened in the past three weeks, relative to the last eight years, the iranians made major concessions. they have agreed for us to go and see the new facility on the 25th. the biggest concession was the willingness to send three quarters of their enriched uranium to russia to be concentrated and france to be put in necessary modules to put in the research center. that removes a lot of their capability even if they wanted to which they say they don't to build a bomb.
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and so, i think what we're doing is ratcheting up the controls and want to make sure that we have sufficient controls on all elements of their nuclear capabilities so that we feel comfortable with it. >> we are talking to you and looking at video of the missile tests they have done. how much of concern is that? >> well, the missiles -- it is of concern, alex, because the missile test, each time they do a test, they improve their capability a little bit and that's the purpose of the test. and of course, i'm sure we are following their capability but every time there's a test, there's sort of a, you know, an inching forward to more and more capability. and this is, of course, of -- this is concerning. >> okay. the talk that is are set for later in october, does this change anything, the discussion with the face to face talks or something that the u.s. has been aware of? >> actually, the talks are quite significant. the 19th they're taking with the
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french, russians on us and to transfer 75% of the enriched you wran yum outside of the country. the 25th is basically an inspection of the new facility. and they're opening the -- i mean, if they're doing everything they're saying, the obama has made significant steps forward. >> do you think they're going to do everything they're saying and make that transfer? >> i'm actually quite optimistic because if you look what's going on in the country, alex, they have three battles now. they have the debate with the international community over their nuclear capability. they have an argument among themselves on how to manage the country because it is really quite a fragmented, you know, governmental structure. and then they have got the oppositi opposition. so they're fighting three battle simultaneously and the least contentious and problematic is the international one so i think we're make ago will the of
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progress in that regard. simply because of the mess that they have internally. >> okay. professor of penn state university, thank you very much. >> pleasure, pleasure. today on nbc, a "meet the press" exclusive. susan rice, u.s. ambassador to the u.n. tells david gregory what's next for iran and the way forward in afghanistan. so check your local nbc listings. funeral services held on saturday for the 16-year-old teenager beaten by a group of other teens in chicago. the i tack on albert was caught on cell phone video. hundreds of mourners, community and city leaders packed the church for the teen's funeral service. >> the brutality that this young man suffered in broad daylight has caused all of us to take a step back and ask ourselves what can all of us do? >> police say the 16-year-old victim unwittingly walked into the path of a brawl of arrive groups and all suspects are
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charged as adults. to politics and health reform stands right now. the senate finance committee to vote on the bachus bill and then harry reed can merge it with the one passed by the health committee and mid month the full senate debate is expected to begin but will the contents of the bill satisfy progressive democrats who are pushing hard for a public option? i'm joined live from washington by bill press. good morning, bill. good to see you. >> alex, how are you doing? >> good, thank you for asking. is the bill that appears to be headed for confirmation better than no bill at all or do progressives want a do-over? >> progressives want a better bill. i think the question about whether it's better than nothing at all, alex, is still only determined seeing what harry reed does merging the two bills as you point out and what comes to the floor but i'll tell you.
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progressives are really united. look. you have to back up a little bit and say, this is a very exciting time because universal health care has been a progressive priority for years and years and years. right? now we have a president that campaigned on this. you have a bill that's passed three committees in the house and now soon two committees in the senate. this is more progress than has ever been made before and we are almost there but the worry is the final bill will not have a public option. progressives say they'll not vote for a bill without a public option. >> all right. i want to get to what "the chicago tribune" is reporting today. president obama's lobbying hard behind the scenes to include a public option in the final measure. >> yep. >> that gets put up to the vote and the paper's quoting lobbyisting saying that the obama is more involved than they think. they have a plan and strategy and they know what they want to get and they work with people to
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get it. what do you make of this? >> i tell what i make of that, alex. there's more going on than we think. liberals, progressives, i'm one of them and ed schultz here on msnbc pushing president obama to be out front saying i won't sign a bill without a public plan option in it. while pushing that, what we're learning from "the chicago tribune" is behind the scenes the president hasn't given up on the public option and making the phone calls and been telling harry reed, let the finance committee do its thing and once we get the bill out of the finance committee, let's put a bill on the floor of the senate with a public option. there's no doubt the president wants it. he wants to sign a bill with it. >> what about the irony here, bill, the very people so supportive of the president in the campaign may be those that actually scuttle a health care plan? >> well, you know, i don't think they're going to scuttle it, alec. they're just going to -- here's what i -- i love this, actually. progressives are -- they have
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some real backbone and saying we have been taken advantage of for too long. lynn woolsey say we have 100 members. more of us than the blue dogs but all you hear about are the blue dogs. we'll have our way this time. this is our moment and we are going to hold president obama's feet to the fire. and make sure we have a public plan option. and nancy pelosi's 100% for it. >> she sure is. >> i'm positive, feeling good about this. i think it is a good bill and get it done this year. >> okay. we love optimism. thank you. >> all right, alex. good to see you. >> you, too. a star-studded show on "saturday night live." stars showed up including elijah woods and a highlight, an opening skit poking fun at president obama. >> last year, i was elected with a mandate do bring this country change we could believe in. and as time has passed, it's
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you heard right. participants completed challenges sent to them via text message. the couple completing the most won. here's what the winning couple had to say. >> i didn't think we had any chance. i didn't think we had any chance. >> you got it there. that's nice. pretty unbelievable. the first doses of the vaccine for the h1n1 flu virus should be available on tuesday but who gets access to the vaccine first, will it be available nationwide? here an answer these questions is dr. steven lamb. good morning, doctor. >> good morning. >> is this vaccine going to be available nationwide or just in certain areas? we we have been told it's nationwide and every board of health, for example, in new york or los angeles will determine how it's going to distribute the vaccines to hospitals, community centers, private practitioners. supposedly the government has commissioned enough vaccine so all of us who want it will be able to get it. >> we heard pregnant women, health care workers, others at high risk are those that will
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get it first. do these people get -- how do you get a priority? show something? >> i think that it's going to be tough logisticall alllogistical >> it seems to affect -- less so in the older population. people 16 and older -- 60 and older have an immunity. get the seasonal flu vaccine. that is the vaccine available, two separate entities but an influenza virus and 36,000 people die of seasonal every year. >> if somebody wants to get the h1n1 virus -- >> vaccine. >> they don't want the virus. yes, thank you for that clarification. if somebody want it is vaccination, is it possible to be turned around they don't fall into a certain category? >> very possible that early on, prioritizing the pregnant and the younger but eventually everyone who really wants this
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vaccine should be able to get it. >> okay. is there a certain protocol that doctors must follow as to who get it is vaccine when? >> we have to register. for example, in new york, i had to register with the new york board of health to get a priority. in order to get the vaccine. well, we'll see what happens over the next one to two weeks. i would assure people that this vaccine is no different from the seasonal vaccine in how it's produced. the safety should be of no great nern to people. >> however, the article is vaccine on the way but people still weary. should they be? >> i don't think so. i mean, we know that influenza is a serious illness. deaths in pregnant women and children. vaccines are our best primary prevention strategy. we did that in with polio and measles and chickenpox. the vaccines around far long time and for the most part, dead vaccines. you can't get ill other than allergic reaction. >> i was traveling this week and while in an airport in chicago,
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i saw a display to pay cash and get the regular seasonal flu vaccine. >> terrific. >> is that kind of thing available as well for h1n1? >> i wouldn't be surprised. trying to distribute it to as many people that want it and get it. once again, college students are fearful. pregnant women, young kids. i mean, you know, if you have a newborn at home and can't vaccinate anybody less than six months of age, you should be vaccinated so your child didn't get it. >> all right. thank you, sir. >> my pleasure. now to a competition for canines fast on their feet. it is the largest fly ball contest. 450 dogs from ten states and two countries doing battle in indianapolis. it is a relay race with teams of four dogs each to clear hurdles for a box for a release of a ball and return it to the starting point. got it? >> the competition and the people and get your adrenaline going. he loves it. he is made for fly ball. >> well, of course, the fastest
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team wins. do you think the dogs really care who wins in they have a good time. well, still ahead, can sarah palin's upcoming book hang on to the number one spot and is the book's early popularity a real surprise? now yourard comes with a way to plan for what matters to you. introducing blueprint. blueprint is free and only for chase customers. it lets you choose what purchases you want to pay and those you split... interest...with full pay. you decide how to pay over time. if having a plan matters. chase what matters. eate your own blueprint at chase.com/blueprint.
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now to politics and the number one bestselling this book on amazon.com and barnes and nobles.com. here it is, "going rogue" by possible 2012 presidential candidate, sarah palin. joining me now, ken walsh, chief white house correspondent. good to see you. >> good morning. nice to be back. >> complain this phenomenon. any surprise that the palin book is so popular in the initial availability? >> no. well, you know, she does still have a very strong core of
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support among conservatives around the country. that is what you are seeing now in the early sales. these are really preorders. million and a half copies is an extraordinary number of books to be put out in a first printing. and that's the number that we're hearing the number is for going rogue. but i think what's happening here is this is the intersection of politics and celebrity and curiosity. and i think that on the politics part, the conservatives i think clearly are buying this book. i think when we get to the point of celebrity and curiosity, that's where i think we'll see whether it has some staying power. it's coming out november 17th. that's a ways away. but so far, i think the publisher has to be very happy with how this is going. >> you wrote a recent article of sarah palin, her independence described at the time as going rogue and many conservatives say the former alaska governor should not hold grudges and he should use the book to cultivate more support around the country. given the title "going rogue"
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what's the message here? what are your thoughts on that? >> i think that's a very good point. the title would indicate there is a certain amount of settling scores here because you've had some of the people in the mccain campaign, of course, she was the vth shl nominee with john mccain as the presidential candidate. there's a lot of people in the mccain campaign thinking they were not listening to their advice, going rogue as the phrase came out and the question i think is does she hold she holds grudges. a lot of people think it will look petty and that she needs to be more expansive in the image. >> you know, speaking of mccain campaign, steve schmidt, one of the main advisers said it would be a, quote, catastrophic election if she was the 2012 republican candidate. what do you make of that? >> he did write -- that's exactly what he said and i think this is a feeling among a lot of veteran republican strategists,
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people who went through that campaign with mccain and saw how sarah palin on the parted. now of course, on palin's side, she says these are the washington insiders, the establishment folks that lost the election. that sarah palin's an outsider and seeing that in the book, too. >> but ken, with regard to elections, won't it be a losing election if they take someone who's middle of the road because sarah palin has the base? >> that's right. she does have the base and that's getting into republican nominating politics and why even steve schmidt conceded she could be the nominee but he feels she would have a disastrous outcome as the nominee if she won that but looking at the republican party, you know, they really don't have a leader who's court of head and shoulders above everybody else as ronald reagan was, for instance, in 1980. so you have this void there and since sarah palin does have a conservative base, she could be quite a strong candidate in the republican party. and that's what a lot of people
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are looking to this book to see clues about her intentions for the next presidential election and how she's going to flesh out her ideas and her ideology but i think if she's talking to the republican base in the book which may be what is going to happen here, then i think she has to be careful about not alienating the wider group of americans which we have talked about, yeah. >> ken walsh, thank you so much. >> thank you. still ahead, the strange new twist in the story of a kidnapped baby found alive and well here on "msnbc sunday." y t, south on i-75, near exit 5. we're on it. onstar, we may have that tahoe. ok, i'll flash the lights. we got it. it's in the clear. i'm sending a signal to cut the power. we got him. mr. ross, the police have recovered your tahoe.
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