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one person was killed and three wounded in the military training accident. all are believed to be afghan security forces. we'll get more details on that story as well. to iceland's erupting volcano. more on how the ash cloud is actually headed to north america in a minute. first some flights could actually be taking off in europe airspace. most of northern europe remains closed. some airlines plan to fly between 8,000 and 9,000 of the 2,000 scheduled flights today. restrictions over scottish airspace will be lifted tuesday and germany's aviation authority has given lufthansa the okay to fly 50 planes back to germany with about 15,000 passengers on board. meanwhile britain sent in the royal navy to bring stranded people back home. 150,000 brits stranded worldwide. that ash cloud continues to move its way westward, as i mentioned. will it be reaching the shores of north america any time soon?
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joining us from d.c., geologists with the u.s. geological survey. thanks for joining us. >> good morning. >> a lot of people woke up and saw headlines that this ash cloud would be headed toward north america. explain what's happening here. >> well, there is a high pressure system north of greenland sending a small ton of ash over towards the area between greenland and north america. the model i looked at did not show any ash going over north america itself. >> i'm sure you have seen many things in your studies and in your life, bill, but how do you process what we're watching here, days of flights canceled. even a debate over just how dangerous the ash is to aircraft. what do you make of what we're seeing? >> well, the big issue right now that the airlines are posing isis there a concentration of ash low enough that would allow flight. they have been effectively conducting experiments with
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empty jets to see if there is a permissible level. we hope they share their information so the rest of us can understand this. >> "nightly news" talked about beyond the ash cloud and aviation, the environment itself, people's ability to breathe clean and safe air. how is this all affected by this thick, mushy ash when it's combined with the water on the ground there? >> well, sulfur dioxide in the plume can combine with water and make sulfur dioxide droplets, which can fall to the ground and create acid rain and cause some respiratory problems. this particular plume is light enough, it probably will not pose a health threat unless the eruption continues for a long time. >> that is, of course, the big question. how long will this continue. is there any science available, any predictor available that might tell us more not only about this volcano but the
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larger one that's not far away? >> the icelandic volcanologists say the eruption has lessened in the last 12 hours. they think if you melt enough of the capping glacier, the explosivity. we'll have to see. >> greatly appreciate it, bill. thank you. >> you're welcome. coming up in a half hour, live report from bob bazell on the scene near the volcano. plus we'll take a look at how the air trouble and travel issue is affecting local and international businesses. the staggering financial impact this volcano is having and not just on air travel. pro gun activists are holding two separate rallies near the nation's capital. in northern virginia members of restore the constitution group plan to carry their guns to a rally at the national park off the potomac river. also going on now a rally
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organized by the second amendment march at the washington monument. no guns allowed at the event because of d.c.'s ban on handguns. liz foley, media drr for the second amendment march. thank you for joining me today. >> thank you for having me. >> tell me in your words, what is the goal, what message does your organization want to send not only to the country but the world since this is getting so much attention. >> i think we just want to remind folks of the freedoms our founders fought for and won. we want to make sure those freedoms don't go away. we're here to protect the bill of rights, first amendment that gives me the right to talk about it and second amendment which gives the right to protect all other amendments provided for in the constitution. >> your organization says the timing is the result of lexington and concord. you've got people in oklahoma city mourning the loss of 168 americans, 600 others who were injured. they believe this is just the wrong time. right now the rhetoric in this
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country is so intense and the possibility of violence so much of a reality that this is just not the right time when we're honoring americans who lost their lives 15 years ago. >> absolutely. we mourn with them and we honor them as well. however, i think it's important to remember that today is patriot's day. all americans need to step up. i think, i hope if we do anything we galvanize and inspire all americans to become patriots and to get involved and stay involved with our government. you've got to vote. you've got to get out there. you've got to know the issues. you've got to protect what we have in this country. it is like no other country in the world. we don't want to see that change for any reason. >> liz, do you and this organization feel there is change because of the new administration? what do you believe most puts the values you say are in jeopardy at risk. >> i do.
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i think we have seen a significant change in the direction of where this country is headed. i know i'm personally involved in other grassroots organizations, tea party, and we're very concerned. health care scared the bee jeebers out of a lot of people. for a good reason. that's why i got involved in the march. i'm a licensed concealed handgun carrier in the great state of texas. i felt why not come to d.c., our nation's heart. of all cities that should be the most free, it's the most restrictive. if you look at the statistics, it's got one of the highest crime rates. >> let me ask you this, first read political team noted it was president obama who expanded gun rights more than any other democratic president when he signed legislation into law that among things allows people like yourself to carry a handgun at national parks what do you say to that, liz? >> i think that was a great thing to do. proud of that. however, i think you have to be
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careful for what happens on the forefront that should have already been in place to what's happening behind the scenes. i think we all need to pay very close attention to any conversations that folks are having with the u.n. i think we need to watch at the state, the local level. i mean, here in d.c., you know, we've got dick heller here from the supreme court case. he's back in court because there are still too many restrictions in the nation's capital. >> liz foley with the second amendment march happening now. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> absolutely. the space shuttle "discovery" gets a no-go for landing, low visibility and cloud cover and rain showers scrapped the landing today. tomorrow at 7:33 a.m. in florida. "discovery" returning from the mission to resupply the space station. president obama will come to new york thursday to push for financial regulatory reform. it comes with the senate scheduled to begin debate this
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week on the financial reform bill. but republican leaders are threatened to block the measure from coming to the senate floor. nbc's kelly o'donnell on the senate floor. already the democrats have a few republicans on their list they would like to talk to, perhaps persuading them to come to their side of this argument. >> reporter: exactly, tamron. they need at least one to bring this financial reform package to the senate floor to begin debate. democrats have the 59, they need one. so likely target susan collins of maine, bob corker of tennessee, judd gregg of new hampshire. although judd gregg has been very critical of the bill that is being talked about right now because he says there have been real attempts at bipartisan negotiations with different groups of senators working on specific language. he says that's not what this bill is. democrats counter and say this is an opportunity to really change the way some things happen on wall street, to end too big to fail, that concept that caused so much trouble. one of the issues, a sticking point between the two party is what democrats call a bailout
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fund that would be using money from financial institutions, $50 billion. if some firms got into trouble, they would be liquidated with that money, shareholders would take a hit and assets sold off. there are real serious negotiations going on behind the scenes to see if they can get it to the floor because majority leader harry reid would like to see it move forward quickly. the president going to new york, democrats anxious to get this going. they would like to have a vote and have it wrapped up by memorial day. that's a tall order because things take time. this morning there was a new comment from chris dodd trying to say republicans are not being as forthcoming as they think they should be. there's a lot of this partisan tension again and serious underlying issues. the president will put his own faces on words to try to push it through somewhat like we saw with health care in the final
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days as well. >> thanks, kelly. a beloved school principal murdered in his own home. the latest on the search for his killer as they mourn a man who makes a big difference in their lives. a store owner comes to the defense of a clerk and turns the tables on a would be robber. more on what happened there. nbc's luke russert sits down for one-on-one with former president bill clinton. what mr. clinton has to say about the u.s. being the world's only superpower years from now. [ male announcer ] crunch, wheat thins. that's what's gonna happen here. ♪ because you're tasty with toasty whole grain.
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flying in and out of europe continues to be difficult if not impossible because of the volcanic ash lot offing across the continent from iceland. stranded travelers are, of course, trying everything. robert moore of itn joins us from france where people are
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trying to board shipsing to out. early on folks were taking this in stride. what's the frustration level now. >> reporter: oh, it's growing. not just frustration but exasperation and in many cases anger. for a few days people understand this was sort of an act of god. this volcanic ash was something they couldn't blame on anybody. but now people are beginning to be very critical of the logistics. just look at the scene behind me here. this is the main ferry port from france for people traveling to britain. pretty chaotic here, several hundred people here all desperate to get tickets for a ferry going to england. many of them weren't even on a holiday or business in france, they have been scattered all over europe and indeed far beyond. what they have been told is if you can get here, you can get on a ferry back to england. very much a sense that england is an island nation and this ferry is one of the few life lines for people to get back home. >> how many people are able to get on the ferry itself, robert?
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>> reporter: well, that's a good question, the ferry companies involved say they can take everybody who arrives here. there's enough capacity, in other words. so the real problems has become the logistics of getting people from far flown investigations to hear, the ferry port. you might be in greece, you might be in berlin, pretty much anywhere in europe. then the challenge is finding a train or a car or a rental vehicle that can get you here. that is proofing very challenging indeed. when people get here, they have seriously upset. investigators in maryland are searching for clues into the the murder of a beloved principal who was a hero to his students. >> i don't know why anybody would want to kill him or harm
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him in any way. avenues good person, a good man. >> he was found dead in his silver springs home thursday after he failed to show up for school. today forensic experts and detectives are trying to figure out who was with him before he was murdered. norah o'donnell, nbc chief washington correspondent. norah, i understand police do not believe this was a random killing. >> reporter: that's right. there was no forced entry at this principal's home. this really is a very sad story because brian betts, the principal of the school, a model principal. he was handpicked by the head of the d.c. schools to transform this shaw middle school at garnet patterson, one of the most underperforming in the district of columbia. this guy was making progress. avenues hero to these students. i was at the school the past two days. there was a huge memorial outside the school. kids had been crying. they had taken chalk and written all over the sidewalk, you're our hero. we'll never forget you.
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even tom brokaw had spoken with him last year when he was talking about how they are trying to transform the schools in the district of columbia. this has really sent shock waves through d.c. and the whole public school community that is trying to change schools that aren't doing well. it's still a murder mystery what happened to him. he was known to have an open door policy, students had his cell phone number, parents called him when they had issues. he lived in maryland. the only lead is they found his suv not outside of his home in maryland but 14 miles away in d.c. they are now looking through that car hoping to find some clues. tamron. >> all right, norah, thank you very much. pope benedict is back in rome today after an emotional two-day trip to malta. there he met privately with eight men who say they were abused by priests when they were boys at a catholic orphanage. >> this is an experience that
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watch your water bills decrease when you turn off the water while shaving and brushing your teeth. for more green information, go to our website at environment.msnbc.com. welcome back. surveillance video shows a store owner in water bury, connecticut did not scare easily when a robber fired a shot into the wall. the owner grabbed a baseball bat and started swinging at the robber. he escaped with cash he grabbed from the register. police are now looking for the guy. former president bill clinton is speaking out on the supreme court vacancy, america's future as a global superpower and much more. nbc's luke russert sat down with the president for a wide ranging interview. he joins me now live from washington, d.c. luke, it seems like you talked about everything. certainly the former president willing to talk and answer. >> reporter: absolutely, tamron. i interviewed president clinton at clinton global initiative u,
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a meeting of the best and brightest around the world to discuss positive social change within the world. one question i asked him, when i'm his age, will america be the only superpower. >> when i'm your age, will i be living in america that is the sole world superpower? >> no, but you can be and should be living in america that still has enormous influence in the world, not just because of economic and military power but because we should still be the engines of freedom and creativity. >> president clinton bill clinton -- [ applause ] >> i'm trying in the years i have left to create annettic in this country so that young people believe being a good citizen is more than working elections and voting in elections and making good political choices but also rendering public service as
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private citizens. >> reporter: and tamron, it was quite interesting when a lot of republicans seem to be running on mantra of american exceptionalism, president clinton saying in reality the future of america will not necessarily be as the sole superpower with an emerging india and china. that my generation, us millennials will be living in america, beacon on a hill, not necessarily number one overall right now simply because of the change. tamron. >> speaking of your generation, the former president said it's young people like yourself and age group that could make the difference in midterm elections. >> reporter: very interesting. they said in 1994 they thought they would win elections but young people did not turn up in '94 midterms. he said in order for democrats to hold the house, young people have to show up, enthusiasm has to be there this november. very interesting, it could come down to youth voters once again in 2008. us millennials, we have a little
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power. don't write us off. >> i'll be sure not to make you mad. >> you're a millennial. >> in dog years maybe. up next, a live report from the ash cloud over europe making its way toward north america. plus "rolling stone" magazine. they are doing something they have never did not before. tell you about the big changes in store for this iconic magazine. courtney hazlet has it in the skoop.
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welcome back. we're just getting in some breaking details about an explosion inside an afghan army base near kabul's airport. u.s. military officials now say they are investigating the explosion that killed a coalition service member and one afghan soldier as a possible suicide bombing. according to officials, it first and to be an accident during training. but upon further investigation, apparently there was evidence that this may have been a suicide bombing attack. we'll have much more on that.
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also right now oklahoma city is marking the 15th anniversary of the bombing at the murrah federal building that killed 168 people. it was the worst act of domestic terrorism ever in our country. family and friends are gathered to remember their loved ones at exactly 9:02 central time, 10:02 eastern time. 168 seconds of silence, one for each of those killed. nbc's ron mott jones us now from oklahoma city. ron, that was the moment of silence we saw earlier. what's happening there now? >> hi there, tamron. good day to you. the 168 seconds of sill en, very powerful moment, 15th anniversary commemoration service. they have just wrapped with the most powerful part of the ceremony each year, that is the reading of the 168 names by friends and family members who
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died in the murrah building 15 years ago. hard to believe it was 15 years. one speaker, secretary janet napolitano talked about her time as u.s. attorney in arizona when the bombing took place, the role she played in the investigation that followed, then she became the attorney general of arizona and now the governor and now secretary of homeland security department which was not even in place when this bombing took place. part of her speech she talked about the need for americans, not just governments to be vigilant and resilient about seeing something and saying something about what you see so we can ferret out attacks like this planned by timothy mcveigh and co-conspirators 15 years ago. president clinton talked last week about rising political sentiment around the country that he says is similar to the one or two years before this bombing precipitated timothy mcveigh said by the april 1993 branch davidian siege down in
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waco, texas. it was a reflective day, powerful ceremony. highly recommend folks to come to oklahoma city to see this memorial. a serene, powerful place, tamron. >> yes, it is. ron, i read interesting information that more than 200 children had parents killed in that awful attack. of those, many of them received scholarship money and two-thirds have gone on to college and other educational programs. in the midst of all this pain and sadness, i wanted to point that information out to the audience. some of those children were able to go forward and get an education and move forward with their futures. >> reporter: right. one thing to remember, the heart heals over time but there's always a hole that time cannot fill. there were some speakers that got up, one young man talked about his mom, passed on but not forgotten. a sister that read the name of her sister with a lot of emotion. that pain is still there, although they have had the time to heal as much as they will heal. >> it will never go away completely.
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ron, thank you very much. rachel maddow's special reports, mcveigh tapes, confessions of an american terrorist at 9:00 p.m. eastern time on msnbc. iraq's election commission now says votes cast in baghdad during the recent parliamentary election will be recounted after the prime minister complained. prime minister nuri al maliki's coalition alleged fraud. the recount could be a significant boost for al maliki. luge fedation said, no single reason caused the death of the racer during the training rain at the 2010 vancouver olympics. a final report issued said the tragedy was an unforeseeable accident caused by a complex series of interrelated events. he was killed hours before the opening ceremony in vancouver. and now back to the eruption or erupting volcano in iceland. while ash from the volcano continues to wreak havoc in the
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airspace over europe, it's as unhealthy for the people on the ground. driving conditions are in some cases impossible. there's also concerns about air quality. nbc's chief science correspondent bob bazell joins us live from iceland. bob, you're on the ground there. what struck you first upon arrival in seeing this firsthand? >> reporter: well, tamron, the area around the volcano where there's a lot of people is very small. most of the enormous amount of ash pushed by the winds toward europe and causing the problems with airplane as we know. when you're at the base of this volcano, you get a sense, which is where we were this morning, of what horrible amounts of ash comes out of it. it's a terrible sandstorm that gets in your mouth and eyes. you can barely breathe. one of the problems we've gotten from a local doctor here is farmers who want to stay with their animals. they are afraid the ash is going to kill their animals. being in this environment for more than a few minutes like we were can be very unhealthy for
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your respiratory and heart. the big question is, is it unhealthy to the rest of the world and airplanes. most doctors think it's not that, tamron. >> what are they say about the larger volcano near there. are there serious concerns it, too, could erupt. >> in the past when a volcano has erupted, the geological past over thousands of years, the second volcano has gone off. it's not clear it would happen. if it did happen, there's no information on the effects to air travel. the plume has gone down from 30,000 feet yesterday to 10,000 feet today. we don't know if that's the beginning of the end or just a burp and it's going to get worse again. unfortunately this volcano hasn't been well studied, one of 70 volcanoes in this actively volcanic island. so people just don't have an
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idea how long this problem is going to continue to spew ash out. can you see it going out over the ocean towards europe. >> it is amazing. bob bazell live on the ground in iceland. very latest there. thank you, bob. as far as a travel nightmare goes numbers are staggering. 63,000 flights canceled since wednesday. 6 million passengers affected, airline industry losing $200 million every day. cnbc's phil lebeau joins us live. how will it be recouped. >> some of the people on the flights canceled will never make those flights. they were either tourists that have travel insurance or eat the tickets. they will not go when they want to go. otherwise, you'll have people make those flights. when they make the flights, the airlines will recover the money they are taking in right now. that said, they will never get
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all of this money back. the estimate of $200 million a day being a lo airlines are pushing the european governments to open up the airspace as quickly as possible. there's a couple of pieces of encouraging news on that front. airspace in scotland and england expected to reopen tomorrow. the ban over the rest of the england and wales may be lifted tomorrow as well. today lufthansa announced it will send 50 airplanes back to germany. they are going to carry about 15,000 passengers from long hall destinations, north america, africa, asia, different places around the world. so we're starting to see some of the airspace in northern europe reopen a bit. it's going to take a long time for the airlines to be made whole from what's happened here. there's serious losses. that's why they are asking the government to bail them out because of the extent of the losses they are covering. >> phil lebeau from chicago, thanks, phil. airlines promising not to charge for carry-ons, after
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spirit airlines announced it was implementing the unpopular fee. chuck schumer, from airlines, delta, united, us airways and jetblue promised not to charge a new baggage fee for items passengers bring on board. smart of them perhaps. "rolling stone" magazine inviting readers like you to check out its 43 year archive, which would be pretty cool. there's always a catch. let's get the scoop from cortney hazlet. >> you can file this under really smart as well. the reason be this isn't like rolling stone saying how do we make money, we'll do it any means possible. what they are doing is intelligently looking at what they have, which is a fascinating 43-year archive that really chronicles one of america's most interesting facets of history, pop culture. they are saying, here, everyone can look at it.
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this is how it will work. buy a monthly pass $3.95, allow you to look at archive stuff for the month. breaking news, slide shows, the things we like to click on when we're killing time, those things will still be free. when you're going back to the archives, that will cost $3.59 a month. however, you can get a year long pass for $29.95 that also includes a subscription. a regular subscription is $19.95. it's an interesting way of monetizing content they have and they know people want. they are not trying to rip you off. that's a fair price for something rolling stones owns. excited to see how that works. it unrolls today. "saturday night live," new episodes, a ramp up to the episode we're waiting for, betty white hosting sat nig"saturday live," mother's day weekend. he was talking how that came to be. we keep giving that facebook fan
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page all the credit. he said, actually he saw betty white at an event in february and was really impressed by her presence, how funny she was. he points out, remember, we asked her to do this in the '70s, '80s and '90s, she's now ready at 88 years old. >> that's going to be a good show. >> can't wait for this to happen. if you're one of the people that bought an ipad in the last several weeks, if you go to a few colleges you might not be able to get onto your network system, princeton, cornell have either banned or extremely restricted access to ipads. >> why? >> because as it turns out that 3g network isn't available. the one that's available you have to jump onto another wireless network. it's like basically crowding the wireless networks. people who have laptops and legitimate schoolwork can't get on because ipads are using so much of that space. >> you can do legitimate work on the ipad. >> trust me, i love it. i can justify anything.
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you can justify anything but there's free space on the network, 41 ipads -- there are only 41 ipads and those are the ones crowding up the system. >> the new version coming out. >> ship the first week of may. >> but it's $200 more. >> that gives you the wireless connectivity no matter what. >> that puts the price tag at $600. >> $1 million. >> $1 million. >> that's a mortgage payment. >> kind of not but kind of. >> it's cool. >> it is cool. thank you very much for the latest news and pop culture information logon to the coop.msnbc.com. there are things considered news around the world. around this time of the morning we find news that makes us say -- >> no way. >> you expect brawls at an ultimate fighting match. this one was not scheduled as strike force middleweight champ jake shields was interviewed about his surprise win over martial arts dan henderson he
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was interrupted by another fighter demand ag rematch. that tipped off a huge brawl. the announcers tried to calm the situation down but it did not quite work of the broadcast went to commercial. one said, gentlemen, we're on live television that did not stop the fight. baseball scouts could soon be headed to new jersey to check out, get this, a 5-year-old. he swings away and consistently hits righty or lefty, pitches coming in at 85 miles an hour. he can field balls like nobody's business. his coach expects great things from this 5-year-old. still ahead, toyota paying a record fine for not alerting u.s. officials about a dangerous pedal defect. the automaker said it did not break the law. could the judge in the casey anthony trial be taken off the case? we'll tell you what's going on with that big story.
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welcome back. defense attorneys filed a motion to disqualify the judge presiding over the murder trial of casey anthony. she's accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter caylee almost two years ago near the orlando, florida home where they lived. joining us now from winter park, florida, investigative reporter. what's going on with this case now? >> reporter: it's gotten really interesting, i'll tell you. defense attorneys jose baez and mason are expected to go before a judge perry. they are going to ask judge strickland, the judge presiding over the case to recuse himself. >> based on what? >> reporter: they are alleging and claiming he acted inappropriately whenever he phoned a blogger that's actually been following this case since the very beginning. the blogger was sick in the hospital. the conversation that was reported between the two is that judge strickland told the
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blogger that he had a very fair blog, which many of the area attorneys that i've talked to locally say that is not acting inappropriately and this probably the worst move by the defense thus far. >> but if the judge is disqualified, does this further delay the trial? >> reporter: it won't delay the trial. they will definitely have to go through the criminal judges that are on the bench right now. one will be randomly selected. it may change the outcome. i will tell you from talking to area attorneys, judge strickland is probably the fairest. >> interesting. investigative reporter rozie franco, with the hatest on the casey anthony trial in florida. thank you. the florida teenager beaten nearly to death by another teen over a text message is now out of a coma and slowly improving. jossie ratley's family has given nbc news exclusive video how she's doing. she's sitting up and responding. she's still unable to speak or
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communicate and still in intensive fair. she was in a medically induced coma. her attacker has been charged as an adult in connection with that case. a california man pleaded guilty killing two teenagers and trying to assault a third person. because of his plea deal he won't receive the death penalty. 17-year-old chelsea king disappeared back in february while jogging. her body was found days later. gardner's arrest in the case led police to have suspicions of the disappearance of amber dubois. she disappeared in 2009. we'll have reactions from the father. toyota ready to pay the price for not telling officials about a dangerous defect in their cars. the details on that next. [ crowd cheering ]
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that question was posed to our panel. >> i feel uncomfortable with the way the question's framed. i don't like the word, owe. >> so put in expectation or something that is expegted. is that the case? >> this president, if he were to quote, owe anything, is to show that we can get in the white house and perform for anyone. >> black america is going to love him no matter what you all try and do and i'm glad they do. at the same time, i want their love to be activated. >> our panelists also talked about unemployment and what the black community needs to do to improve the community itself. that does it for me. thank the panel very much for participating and a big thank you to ed schultz. i'll see you back here at 2:00 p.m. eastern time. i will be talking to the father
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good monday, everyone. we begin with breaking news in iraq. the most senior al-qaeda leader there is dead after a raid this weekend. abu ayyub al masri was killed by iraqi and u.s. forces. al masri replaced -- in 2006. the raid also killed another top leader who was in the safe house. i'm joined by general mcaffrey. what does this do to have the two top al-qaeda leaders in that country killed? >> it's good news. the general's been on air talking about the blow to the sunni insurgency leadership. they've been trying to provoke the shiites, start civil war during this period before we have a government that can take office in iraq. i think it's good news.
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masri was an egyptian, muslim brotherhood, been in country forever. the fact he's dead will throw them in disarray for some period of time, then doddy was essentially the last surviving member of the sunni leadership. >> so, this disrupts the command structure of al-qaeda in iraq, but a lot of the violence we see is sectarian in nature. will this have any impact on that kind of violence? >> that may be the biggest target. can we mitigate the likelihood of the remnants of al-qaeda, based primarily in saddam hussein's old areas. this guy was killed near takrit by the iraqis. so can the iraqis now quell the ability of the insurgency.
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this is good news to mitigate that possibility. >> and in terms of the abilities now of iraqi forces, in this case, it was a raid as you point out, carried out by iraqis, but supported by u.s. commandos as well as and the u.s. military. what does it say that they are still doing this in partnership with the united states? >> i think we're going to continue that relationship. the u.s. special operations forces, u.s. intelligence, is astonishingly good. we frequently don't comment on that, but they're ability to monitor these people. this is 28 million people speaking aspeak speaking arabic and we managed to sort out who's talking. it's an astonishing ability to have fidelity in finding this insurgent leadership.

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