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strong noer northerly wind is carrying this ash and steam away from the helicopter. i'll take his word for it. look at the lightening. so much energy in that. you see lightening quite frequently now. there's another one. you can also see big pop marks in the ice. that's pieces of molten lava. look at the stuff coming off the left of the plume. the debris there. large pieces of rock and lightening. so much kinetic energy being released. >> flights are now taking off and landing in france and italy and service is available in most
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european countries. in some places, passengers are starting to feel some relief and in parts of the u.k., planes can fly above the ash cloud. tom aspell is in london. what are british authorities telling you about plans for air travel? >> well, they'll make a decision later tonight and two hours in fact, limited air space between scotland as far down as the british midlands will begin to reopen. we have not heard about the main airports in london. later this evening, they'll decide whether limited services can operate out of here. british airways has said it will not operate any short flights, so prumly, if these flights open until 1:00 tomorrow morning, that will be to let the long flights get out and bring some home. there are 150,000 brittons
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stranded aboard and already, the royal navy helping to bring them home from france and northern spain. the british very anxious to get their planes back in the air again. >> tom, thank you so much for that. also, this. the state department is going to give emergency loans to some stranded americans who have nowhere else to turn as they wait out the ash cloud. this while some lucky passengers are finally on their way home after being stranded for six days. >> i am so happy to be getting out of here. >> i am a little afraid. i'm hopeful that the plane will take off and won't meet with any volcanic ash. >> there were even some passengers at jfk in new york who cheered when the first flight took off. others complained they were stuck in the airport for five days without taking a shower. goldman sachs is out with a
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blockbuster earnings report this morning. its profits nearly doubled last quarter to $3.5 billion. and those stellar numbers come on the heels of an s.e.c. fraud investigation and now, a new investigation in the u.k. financial reform top iping the agenda on capitol hill today. right now, the house financial services committee holding a hearing, looking into the collapse of lehman brothers. the bankruptcy that ushered in the bailout of the big banks that were deemed too big to fail. just moments from now, we're going to hear from jack reid, but we should point out we just heard a democratic aide say that the senate won't likely take up the financial overhaul bill until next week. that's big news. this morning, democrats and republicans were sparring over this bill. >> it is important for the country and the taxpayer that we get this right. that we put them before
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politics. >> but principally for us is really very simple one in complicated issues. >> coming up, we're going to be speaking with dylan ratigan to talk more about the fight over financial reform and this showdown on capitol hill. we're also going to hear as i mentioned, from senator reid. he's on the senate finance committee. i think he's going to be coming with some big news as we've been talking to him throughout the day. also, this just in. the supreme court struck down a federal law which would have made it a crime to produce or possess video showing animal cruelty. the court felt that the law swept too broadly. for example, someone possessing a hunting video could be problematic since hunting is legal in some states only. and 15-year-old mike brewer jr. survived being burned alive
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by classmates following a dispute over $40. he suffered burns over 60% of body and has spent the last six months trying to recover. 15-year-old josie ratley suffered the same type of attack at the same school. a classmate kicked and punched her with steel-toed boots because of a text message. that boy is being charged with attempted murder. this morning, mike talked about his former schoolmate with meredith vieira. >> i hope she gets better and i hope i see her again. get stronger like i did. >> and get stronger every day, yeah. >> she needs to start believing in herself. she can do it. >> josie is now recuperating from her latest surgery. doctors reattached a section of her skull to relieve some brain
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swelling. and one of the massachusetts teenagers charged in the bullying of a 15-year-old girl who committed suicide was in court today in a different case. he was arraigned after his arrest on sunday for drunk driving and is also facing statutory rape charges in the bullying case of phoebe prince. he is among sixte teens charge. in our search for stories far and wide, the florida girl who survived in an al gator invested swamp last week is back with her family. nadia bloom's father says he is so happy to have her back. she has been in the hospital with an infection. her father says she seems to
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have completely recovered. that's good news. a court in texas is expected to hear arguments tomorrow over whether married, gay couples can get divorced. part of the case before a judge in austin tomorrow involves a woman who married her partner in massachusetts, but is now trying to divorce that partner in texas where same-sex marriage the not. and scientists are hoping two tiny rocks found in a wisconsin field will give them new clues to orgins of the universe. they're believed to be from the meteorite streaking through the skies. a hunter found them and donated the pieces to a research museum in chicago. >> these farmers are plowing
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their fields right now. these things could be lost for ever. if you can get to it early, you can save them for science. >> and scientists say the longer the rocks sit in the elements, the bigger chance they will become contaminated. the crew of the space shuttle "discovery" is back today. there you go. nice landing. it was scheduled for yesterday, but canceled because of rain. the sky's broke this morning just long enough for "discovery" to return to earth and the seven astronauts glad to be home. they traveled 6 million miles on their 15-day trip to the international space center before today's homecoming at the kennedy space center. welcome home to them. and just as they're facing a civil lawsuit from the government, goldman sachs earning nearly double in the first quarter. dylan ratigan is going to weigh in. plus, are school lunches a
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lots of moving parts on financial reform on capitol hill today. at any moment, we're expecting to hear from democratic senators. they're going to be talking about complex investments known as derifftives. in the house, the financial services committee is looking into the collapse of lehman brothers which led to the bailout of the nation's biggest banks. ben bernanke and timothy geithner both argued for
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financial reforms. >> failure is inevitable in financial systems. the challenge for government is to design a system to which the failures of private firms cannot cause damage to the economy. >> we must eliminate the gaps that allow large, complex, interconnected firms like lehman to operate without consolidated supervision. >> let's bring in dylan ratigan. dylan, we're expecting perhaps a vote on thursday in the senate when the president is going to be delivering a big speech on wall street. we're now just hearing that it's probably going to be put off until next week perhaps. what do you think that means? do the democrats think they're getting close to getting republican votes? >> they may think that. i think the underlying issue is that both democrats and republicans are so out of touch with the american people who are 80-20 on this issue in the sense that they no longer want a banking system that can gamble
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with other people's money and keep secrets. the reason our country has grown so wonderfully is because we had a banking system that was incentivised to lend money to people and businesses so others could create jobs. a wall street economy designed to encourage investment in businesses. in 1999, bob reuben and larry summers created a system that allowed the top 1% of all investors to gamble wildly with other people's money, take all the money and then use our pension fund managers as the sucker for their bets using the derivatives you are referencing. that's not capitalism. that is stealing. i think everybody understands the difference between lending and investing and eaching pension funds as ord -- we need to see an investigation of how
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much of the money that has been taken from us was taken on the base of fraud and why our politicians are in such a state of refusal to resurrect the basic principles of lending and investing and insist upon protecting the weasels stealing money. >> you say investigate, but the president is saying it's time to legislate and get something done. this is something i read today which stunned me. the largely democratic bill coming before the senate would do little more than make the buying and selling of the derivatives more open. it would not prevent the kind of complex bundling that many believe contributed to the crisis and recession. it doesn't sound like this would prevent what the government is accusing goldman of doing. >> if i create something
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designed to explode, if i take this ifb cable and poison it and say to you, norah, do you want to buy this cable, it's poisoned. and then you say to me, well, no, dylan, i don't poison things. there's nothing wrong with that exchange. it's when i take this cable and say, i've invent add poison cable, but i'm not going to tell norah that it's a poisoned cable. i'm going to tell norah that it's a good cable. that's what goldman sachs is accused of. so, the transparency is misplaced. it should placed on the legislator who wants to make a rule before an investigation. the democrats create a fraternity so they get the benefits of cheap money and screw everybody else over. that's not a good idea, or the republican plan, which is to let them fail, but remember, it was
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the republicans who claimed that was their plan last time until they stepped in under george bush. both parties have a lot of work to do. all of us need to demand more transparency and more lending and investment. and the illegality of using other people's money for people who can't find something better to do with their time during the day. >> who do you have coming up? >> dale johnson and bob corker. we'll talk to him about how he would address too big to fail. the republicans claim their plan is let them fail, but then again, that plan turned into a giant bailout in 2008, so i don't see -- maybe the republicans have learned something in the past two years that i didn't know. >> all right. dylan ratigan, we'll be watching. thanks. and new york city mayor michael bloomberg says he was out of the loop and no one told
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him the president was coming to new york tomorrow. he said he learned about the visit from some blogs and seemed upset he wasn't told. he suggested the real worry for new yorkers should be rebuilding new york's financial sector. a group of retired military officers say america's youth are so overweight that they would not qualify for military service. according to their study, approximately 9 million young people are too obese to serve their country. that now has military leaders calling for schools to clean up their cafeterias with healthier, leaner food. here with me now is current secretary of agriculture, tom vilsack. thank you for joining us. >> happy to be with you today. >> how are school lunches now a national security threat? >> well, mission readyness, 130 retired generals and admirables
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put a wake-up call today by suggesting that there are too few youngsters fit for military service in part because they are obese or not physically fit enough to serve. it is an indication of why this needs to be a national priority. school lunches and breakfasts, one way of addressing that is by improving the nutritional value of those maeals. >> the school lunch program was established after world war ii because the military found that some lacked in nutrition and were too small, so then it was a national security issue. now, we have the opposite problem, which is people are just too big and overweight. what specifically can be done to the lunch program to change that? >> a couple of things. first of all, establishing nutritional standards that allow us to reduce the amount of salt, sugar and fat in the meals and
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replace it with fruits and vegetabl vegetables. making sure the vending machines have nutritional and healthy snacks and reinstitute school activity into the day the first lady is proposing with her initiative. >> secretary, can you really get sugary drinks out of elementary, middle and high schools? >> i think you can. even the drink companies recognize that they have a contribution to make, that they can create an opportunity for youngsters to make a healthy choice in those vending machines. it won't damage the school budgets. youngsters will still buy water, juice drinks and fruit drinks. it's just a matter of substituting healthy choices for sugary choices. >> yeah, but we saw how hard that association fought back against the health care bill. i doubt they're going to give in when it comes to getting cokes and things out of schools. >> we have a lot of support from
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the soft drink association. i think they recognize the responsibility and duty to step up. i don't anticipate quite the response you saw on health care. the first lady has reached out to them and we all are in this together. our youngsters, 31 million of them, have got to be fed better or they're not going to perform as well in school and it's going to be a health care problem in the future. and it's a national security concern. >> with 27% of 17-24-year-olds too overweight to join the military. good luck to you on this and hopefully, we can change the way we feed our kids. health officials have long said americans consume too much salt. now, a group is urging the fds to start regulating the amount of salt in food. they're accusing the food industry of not doing enough to
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cut back the amount in commonly processed foods. the fds says regulation is under consideration. here's a look at some of the top viewed stories today. an article about the cyber attack. today, we're learning what was targeted. the judge in the case against casey anthony has removed himself. and crying all the way to the bank. "forbes" reports on reality tv star who is turned their 15 minutes of fames into brands that sell. we'll skip that one. we're never gonna catch anything.
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new video just in from pittsburgh, pennsylvania. this is video of a car that drove into a video store. there are reports that an elderly couple was in the car at the time. we'll bring you information as it becomes available to us. and students at a washington, d.c. school are still mourning today after their principal and hero was brutally murdered last week. brian betts was found shot to death in his home on thursday. he had joined the struggling school to make a difference in the lives of kids there and that is just how the students and teachers remember him. >> personally, he was my own mentor. it was my second year and he hired me and he led me through my first couple of years, so i can't imagine the school without him. >> joining me now is captain paul starks with the montgomery county police department. as we reported this morning, nbc
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news is reporting that the police are looking closely at brian betts' computer and phone records. has that turned up any useful leads? >> that was some specific information that i'm not permitted to talk about, but in any murder or missing person case, we talk with family and friends, neighbors, we check cell phone records and computer activity as well. >> is it possible he could have met someone online? >> that's always a possibility. the computer is used as communication tool. >> and surely, his cell phone, you can tell from his cell phone who was the last person he spoke with or received a call from because as you have said, you don't believe that was a random killing. did he know the killer? >> that's one of the things we're trying to determine. this information is helping us narrow our efforts. >> one of the big leads is the
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car. the suv was found 14 miles away from his home in maryland, all the way in the district of columbia. do you have anyone who saw suspects get out of the car? >> we did talk with an individual who stated he saw two subjects get out of the vehicle friday afternoon between noon and 3:00 p.m. >> is it possible those two individuals were involved in the murder of brian betts? >> that's a distikt possibility, but we can't confirm that. we need to find them, talk with them and determine their relation to the crime. >> one of the things i found very interesting is that the car was found clean. the suv. it wasn't vandalized. a lot of times, people who have their car taken, when they get it back, it's got booze and cigarettes and all kinds of things, but that was not the case with this car, correct?
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>> that's right. and part of the reason maybe is that the metropolitian police department recovered that vehicle less than 24 hours after the witness says it was placed there. >> and did you find anything else in the car like a murder weapon or anything related to this? >> i'm not permitted to talk about any specific evidence in or about the vehicle, but we have looked at it closely, any information, any evidence we can get that will help us. >> are you any closer to naming a suspect, arresting someone or is this still early in the investigation? >> i've been saying it's early for a few days, so what i'm saying now is that we are moving forward, inch by inch. we have a protocal and this is the process we're going forward with. we're getting closer. >> all right, thank you, captain. >> thank you. and a secret new iphone has been exposed. an apple employee actually left
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we're helping kids make more balanced choices every day. ♪ and we're looking now live at the senate floor. there's bernie sanders of vermont talking about financial reform. it is the big deal on capitol hill. in fact, the house financial services committee today was hearing testimony on the collapse of lehman brothers and there's word now that the is that the is not going to take up the financial overhaul bill until next week. democrats had hoped for some action on thursday and just moments ago, vice president biden said wall street reform must bring new transparency for derivatives. let's bring in senator jack reid, democratic of rhode island and member of the banking committee. thanks for joining us. >> thank you.
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>> it is key for the democrats to get some republicans on board. have you been able to strike a deal? >> i know senator dodd is working very hard with senator shelby. i've been working closely with senator gregg, but to this point, i can only speak for myself. there's now definitive deal that's been put into legislative language. i was hoping for one before the banking committee convened. that didn't work out and was still open, but we had to get this bill to the floor. >> and are you making headway with senator judd gregg? >> we've had a very good series of discussions over several months. some issues have been more difficult to resolve such as placing as many derivatives on a trading platform, but we're not at that point yet. we've got all is dotted and ts
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crossed. until you have that, you don't have a deal. >> can i ask you about what the democrats are crafting here because according to latest reports, this bill will do little more than make a buying and selling of these derivatives more open. it would provide transparency, but not prevent this complex bundling that many people believe was at the heart of what caused this collapse. why is that? >> well, one thing that i've been talking about in fact, have proposed legislation and emphasized is transparency so that every trade, even those complicated, synthetic derivatives, are reported to a central registry, so at least they know the trade. second, everything should be cleared. that means not only that more trans parent, but you have to put up collateral so it's not just a bet with no money.
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>> i know that trait's importan but sometimes i get these things in the mail, could i really read this whole thing. specifically, is what the democrats are proposing, what it have prevented what the s.e.c. is accusing goldman sachs of doing improperly? >> well, i would hope it would be because first of all, they would have had to report the transaction. the transaction that goldman engaged in was a private place m. no obligation to report to any obligator. second, it would have to be clear and that would require a central party to look at the deal and say, you have to put up this much collateral or margin. that would have given everyone more perspective. the allegation in the goldman suit is essentially critical information was denied to some of the investors.
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that some investors were shorting this, they were in to see it lose, not win. and also that this was not truly an independent selection of securities. that information, i think, would have been more likely emerged if our structure was in place. but the question you raise and one that requires serious debate, should regulators have the authority to bar certain products that are systemically risky. >> no doubt, senator, people out there are angry. angry about what happened on wall street, that it has led to of course smaller paychecks and people losing their jobs and of course, health care, their own health care if they've lost their job. let me just ask you about goldman sachs. do you believe the timing of the s.e.c. because this is what some have accused, that the timing is suspicious. that this civil suit brought on the very weak, that the senate was supposed to vote and the president was going to wall street. >> no, i don't.
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the report suggests that the s.e.c. has had discussions with goldman for months now about this transaction. i have a great deal of confidence they are trying to enforce the law and frankly, had this been done in a previous administration, we would not be in the position we're in today. strong enforcement is appropriate. >> all right. senator jack reed on the banking committee. senator, good luck getting some republicans on board. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. and we mentioned the developing news today about the earnings doubling, but is green good? donny deutsch is going to host a special today called "america the angry" at 3:00 p.m. eastern. [ female announcer ] sometimes you need tomorrow
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the same plant that gives us tequila may have a bone benefit. researchers study benefit frs the plant and found it helps bones absorb more cal sum from food. however, before you grab that margarita, experts say this is burned off when changed into alcohol. president obama called her the god mother of the civil rights movement and at 98 years old, she passed away. >> reporter: when dr. martin luther king jr. delivered his
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most famous and powerful speech -- >> i have a dream -- >> she was off to the side, pushing for change, but always behind the scenes -- >> racism was so overwhelming that where i was didn't seem to make that much difference. i was there with the men who were great leaders in the civil rights movement. >> the big six. >> although i have to say, it was seven because i was one. >> do you think that because you are a woman, that that is one of the reasons why most america does not even know your name? >> that's the way it was for women. i think this is one reason that we can say honestly, that the civil rights movement gave a certain imptous to the women's movement. >> she was one on the principal
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planners to the march on washington. >> it's one of the reasons we drove on to achieve the civil rights act of 1964. >> that landmark legislation made clear in black and white, that it was against the law to discriminate on the basis of race, whether in public facilities like hotels and schools, or at the workplace. >> there's a sense built upon the brown decision, which had already said that racial segregation could not be legal in the united states. and it brought it within the context of those things that are in our daily lives. it was also followed with frustration. because we have the laws, but don't always have the enforcement. >> she responded, inviting black and white women to come together
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in meetings she called wednesdays in mississippi. bringing together people was familiar to dorothy. the daughter of a nurse who could not find work in white hospitals and a self-employed contractor, dorothy knew little of prejudice, but remembers its first encounters with a white classmate. what her mother told her set the stage. >> she said, you're a smart girl. you're a strong girl and so, no matter what has happened, i found myself not getting bitter, but feeling in the midst of all this, i have to stand up. >> by standing up, she has rallied against lynchings and rule poverty. she has counseled numerous u.s. presidents on civil rights. you can see her face in photos with presidents and first
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ladies. a recipient of more than 30 honorary degrees, she has received the nation's highest civilian honors. the presidential medal of freedom and congressional gold medal. to the young people who are listening now, what do you want to tell them? >> keep struggling for jobs and freedom. we're going to have to take the hands and make the laws work. i r oing to have the heart attack. i thought i was invincible. i'm on an aspiriregimen now because i never want to feel that helplessness again. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. ta to your doctor, and take care of what you have to take care of.
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purses, the numbers shift with 60% saying they favor it. from that to green week. it's green week and congress is doing its part today as we approach earth day on april 22nd. lawmakers are holding a briefing to highlight the role parks play in the environment. eddie george is participating in the briefing to advance the role of urban parks. good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. i'm enjoying the visit here in d.c. >> good. you also happen to be a landscape architect, but talk about why these green spaces are so important, especially to our youth. >> it's really important because there are so many benefits to having green space. not only is it pleasing to the eye, but environmentally, it will reduce on your
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infrastructure costs because of the water runoff. economically, will begin to raise prices, real estate prices around the area in general. and start to stimulate economic activity and socially speaking, it will begin to promote a healthy lifestyle where kids can get out there and be active and participate in recreational activities and just get out there and burn off those calories. >> you've been a great athlete and now, we have a crisis in this country. one out of every three kids in this country is at risk of being obese. just how much are we lacking in terms of green space where kids can go play football or play ball? >> it's a desperate need to have these places that are safe, that are usable, that are designed
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well that you can go out there and be active and be able to work on the greenways and walkable streets. that's why you really have to look at this as an investment that this bill should be passed because if we don't have this stuff available to us, there's no way we can live healthier lifestyles without the healthier places. >> what's under consideration by congress? what are you pushing congress to do and how much do you want them to spend on this? >> well, there is a significant number we're looking for them to put toward the bill and i think it's really important for them to understand that it's not so much as spending, but rather an investment in the community because it addresses so many issues. environmentally, especially economically. so i think this definitely addresses those things and it will begin to not be the be all,
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end all to this growing problem of obesity, our environmental issues in the economy, but i think it will begin to serve as a way to stimulate the activity that's going on. >> thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. and now, apple corporate secrets exposed. here's the video they say they do not want you to see. a tech website says it got its hands on the next generation iphone, this is what you call a tease, which isn't supposed to be unveiled for a few months. it was left behind by an engineer in a silicon valley bar. earli earlier, we spoke with jason
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chen. >> it has a larger battery, so it lasts longer. it is a front camera so you can do skype video chats. if your friend has another iphone, you can do another video chat or with a computer. you can talk to your friends like in the future. like a video chat. >> and by the way, gizmodo did return that iphone back to apple. i'm norah o'donnell. thanks for watching. up"andrea mitchell report reports". among her guests, blanche lincoln. there's new motrin pm. no other medicine, not even advil pm, is more effective for pain and sleeplessness. new motrin pm. is more effective for pain and sleeplessness. anncr vo: ...you can get help gwith a flat tire.... anncr vo: ...find a nearby tow truck or gas station... anncr vo: ...call emergency services...
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and, goldman has hired a top lawyer. an hour ago, senate democrats postponed a vote this week on financial reform. is this a sign they might be able to work out a deal with republicans? maybe, but not yet. >> as a matter of fact, i know the president's going to wall street later this week to act like he's being tough on wall street, which is a laughable moment. i mean, this bill is anything but tough on wall street. as a matter of fact, i'm sure they'll be hoisting him on their shoulders after this bill passes. >> coming up right here, a key player on the fight over derivatives. blanche lincoln. and come fly with me just as air travel was set to resume, winds send another plume of ashes toward europe. chaos continues for travelers. plus, the loss of a civil rights legend.
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dorothy height, passing peacefully at the age of 98. one of her legacies talks about dr. height's unique role for african-american women. good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the volcano in iceland is now steadily leasing an ash plume 8,000 feet high. flights have been delayed until tomorrow after winds caused a new cloud to form. robert bazell live in iceland today. what can you tell us about the trajectory of the winds, the new ash plume and the prospects for this ever ending? >> i don't know, andrea, but i can give you a weather report. it's snowing in iceland. that is the bit of good -- there is a bit of good news in that.
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