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right now on msnbc saturday, the fight over immigration hits a fever pitch in arizona. the nation's toughest immigration bill now a law and opponents argue it is giving police a license to discriminate. a rare and deadly form of airborne fungus spreading fast across the pacific northwest. where did it come from and how big a threat is it. plus, rock star bret michaels in the hospital after suffering bleeding on the brain. the latest on his condition is coming up. and a rash of robberies

targeting older men in florida, who's behind it and why do police believe there's even more victims out there? good morning, everyone, i'm alex witt. welcome to "msnbc saturday." well, the fight over immigration in this country is escalating to a whole new level. fierce reaction is pouring in after the governor of arizona signed a controversial new bill that enacts laws against illegal immigrants. jan brewer is defending her decision to sign that measure. it will make it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally. it also requires police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants. and one immigrant group is already promising a legal fight. the mexican-american legal defense and education fund says the measure launches arizona into "a spiral of pervasive fear, community distrust, increased crime and costly litigation."

arizona's governor signed that bill despite criticism from president obama who calls the state effort misguided. >> i've instructed members of my administration to closely monitor the situation and examine the civil rights and other implications of this legislation. nbc's mike vicara is live. good morning, mike. >> good morning, alex. >> let's get to what the president said yesterday about this. give us details about what he's doing if you can. >> he is here with michelle obama. a few close friends are with them. they're here in asheville, north carolina. he was here preparing for a debate in 2008, promised he would come back and lo and behold, here is he. before he left the white house yesterday, alex, appearing in the rose guarden in a ceremony, with long with men and women in

uniform, having them swear in their citizenship, a very moving ceremony at the end of which the president spoke forcefully against what's happening in arizona. now, the context of what's happening in arizona, a political as well as a policy context, there was a controversy there when the beloved rancher was shot, suspected by illegal immigrants that crossed into his territory. this is an ongoing problem, an ongoing controversy, not only in arizona where there are an estimated 500,000 illegal immigrants but all across the country. nobody has to be reminded, going back to the last days of the bush administration of the volatile debate about immigration reform in this country. arizona passed a law, the president reacted calling it misguided saying he'll have the department of justice look into whether civil liberties may be violated because of the possibility of racial profiling. allowing police to make a reasonable inquiry as it's written into the law, if there's a reasonable suspicion, quote, unquote, that the person they're stopping, whether a traffic stop

or any other encounter with law enforcement is an illegal immigrant. many people are angry about that provision in the law. that is the crux of any investigation that the department of justice would do, alex. >> yes. look, from a congressional perspective, mike, congress has financial reform, immigration reform and a number of other things on its plate right now. do you think this action in arizona pushes immigration reform to the top of the list? >> you know, there are plenty of democrats who would really rather not have this debate this year, because it divides the party right down the middle. as a matter of fact, it's divided the republican party right down the middle over the course of the last several years. the president has been making telephone calls to scott brown, the newly mintd senator from massachusetts to about a half dozen other senators over the course of the last two days on immigration reform, trying to gauge their interest. it remains to be seen just how hard the administration will push for a bill this year, this election year. >> there's a poll taken in arizona, half the democrats and

84% of republicans support what the governor signed into law yesterday. so you can only imagine how that exponentially factors into what would happen in congress. >> absolutely. >> thanks very much, mike, appreciate it. coming up, reaction from the new law in arizona. we go live to phoenix. a new and deadly airborne fungus is spreading throughout the pacific northwest. researchers blame the strain on 23 deaths with another 200 people known to be infengted. the fungus appears to be affecting healthy people. it is reported to have a mortality rate of 25%. the disease can be treated but not prevented. as of right now, there is no vaccine. symptoms include chronic cough, sharp chest pain, shortness of breath, headache, fever and weight loss. they think the fungus might be harbored some where in soil. april showers are in full effect, storms spreading across the country today, hail, tornadoes and heavy

thunderstorms are expected all over this country today, particularly across the midwest and the south. look at that lightning right there. parts of alabama and mississippi are already under a tornado watch. so for the latest on all this busy weather out there, wnbc's raphael miranda is joining us here in studio. >> we have everything, tornado, hail -- >> a potpourri. >> tons of lightning. potentially seeing a major tornado outbreak later on this morning into the early afternoon. let's take a look at the maps. we have the tornado watch boxes, including new orleans, jackson, mississippi, up towards memphis. tornado watch means there's a potential for tornadic activity into the early afternoon. memphis, tennessee getting a break right now. if we look to the south and west, a nasty line of storms moving towards the northeast, around 50 miles per hour. memphis you'll be getting slammed over the next hour or so, very fastly winds with this storm. take a look at atlanta, heavy

rain moving through there as well. no severe weather in atlanta just yet. there's a potential later on this afternoon for severe outbreaks all the way to the southeast. >> thanks for keeping an eye on things. appreciate that. an oregon man will receive $18.5 million from the boy scouts of america in a sexual abuse case. he was awarded the money in punitive damages from six accounts of sex abuse he suffered by a scout master. he talks about how he felt after the verdict was handed down. >> i don't know if i have closure, i have a long road ahead of me still. it's a huge jumping point, a huge start for me. as long as i was able to help one person, this is all well worth it. >> the multimillion dollar case was the largest ever against the boy scouts. the case against the 22-year-old who allegedly hacked into sarah palin's e-mail account resumes monday in tennessee. the star witness has already taken the stand. the former alaska governor testified friday that the intrusion into her e-mail

disrupted her campaign and personal life. david kernell posted information from palin's e-mail on the web, including family phone numbers that led to harassing calls. palin spoke to reporters about the experience. >> yeah, that was uncomfortable, especially the first screen shot was a friend who was going through a divorce. it was a personal e-mail she sent me. i felt horrible for her. throughout this, it has been feeling very bad for the victims in this. friends and family who have had to change all of their con tacks, e-mail addresses, have to explain some of the e-mails they sent to me personally, privately, to their associates. it's been bad on them. >> nbc's kerry sanders is in the courtroom. he joins us from knoxville, tennessee. good saturday morning to you. >> good afternoon or good morning. the courtroom reel had been a third full until sarah palin

showed up, then it was packed, they listened to her giving testimony for about 45 minutes. as we heard her talk outside the courthouse about how this disrupted the campaign and her personal life. if you remember when this first happened in the news, as the screen shots and the e-mails started getting on the internet, the blogs started picking up stories that this was going to derail her campaign. there was going to be a revelation about an extramarital affair that todd was having, her husband, or that there was going to be an fbi investigation revealed or that trig, her youngest, was not her son. all of which turned out not to be true. all of the stories that she says then caused credibility problems for her with john mccain. she said she had to battle back a lot harder. this was all important here, alex. because the defense is that this was really just a college prank. but what we're hearing from sarah palin, the victim here, is

this was far more than a prank. >> you know, kerry, i'm curious. that's a political conservative area, knoxville, tennessee. do you think jurors and people in the courtroom seem star struck? >> reporter: i'm not sure that i would say they look star struck but aside from sarah palin, this is a very, very technical, technical presentation by the prosecution. because you and i know how to get on the internet and maybe search something. but i'm not sure we understand the inner workings of how firefox or how a defrag works. this stuff is being presented to the jury in incredible detail. it's quite a bit to take in here, to understand the inner workings of the computer we just turn on and send an e-mail with. >> i would be fascinated to learn all that. i have no clue on how that works. kerry sanders, thanks so much. more from you later. now to that deadly oil rig

explosion in the gulf of mexico. the coast guard suspended its three-day search for 11 missing oil workers they believe never made it off the burning platform. anna thompson with the latest. good morning. >> reporter: today officials are going to focus their attention on two different issues, first of all, they are going to search for that missing oil rig. it sunk on thursday. officials don't know where it is. they presume it's somewhere on the bottom of the ocean floor. but they hope to find the deep water horizon because they believe that may give them some clues as to why the mobile drilling rig went up in flames on tuesday. the second thing they're going to do is obviously try to contain any potential environmental damage from the fire and try to prevent a big oil spill. right now on the gulf of mexico, in the area of the oil rig, you can see a sheen on the water of oil. at times it has been as large as

100 square miles. the good news is, they are watching the well head. that's a mile down on the bottom of the ocean. and that well head, at least at this time, does not appear to be spilling oil. that certainly is a good sign. but officials say it could be anywhere from days to weeks before they know that the environmental danger has really passed. working against them today is the weather. there are high winds, which will kick up the seas. that makes things more difficult. >> alex? >> anne, this is one of several hundred oil rig platforms that dot along the gulf coast. when you talk about the environmental danger that's posed there, it's an omnipresent danger there. >> reporter: it is. you know, in fact, i was talking to someone who works for the gulf restoration project down here in new orleans yesterday. and he said when it comes to offshore drilling it's kind of out of sight, out of mind here, because people are so used to

it. yet when they have a spill and when they see the pictures that we've seen, the dramatic pictures of flames and then the fact that 11 people are missing and i think at this point presumed dead, it brings it all back. and with the environmental concern now, alex, yes, the rig was 50 miles offshore but there's a pot of whales near the rig that feed. that's one problem and then if the spill moves onshore you have the -- and that's another problem. >> cleaning up the shore and the spillage. what a mess it could potentially be. anne thompson, thanks so much. a large chunk of the southeast under the gun this saturday for severe weather. how bad could it get? mike seidel is live for us. and a 14-year-old caught stripping in mississippi. how did that happen in the full story straight ahead.

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a nebraska police officer pulled a toddler from a burning building. the officer arrived with that building engulfed in flames and a mother outside screaming that her baby was inside. the heroic man dashed in after the 21-month-old little girl and escaped just before the roof collapsed. lots of extreme weather this weekend. tornado watches are covering most of louisiana, arkansas, mississippi as well. large hail is possible in parts of the mississippi valley. and heavy thunderstorms could bring up to 2 inches of rain for the area. weather channel's mike seidel is in greenville, mississippi. he's joining us live. i see the sun has risen a little bit. there's a lot of dark ominous clouds, mike. >> reporter: there are. that's looking back from mississippi into arkansas, chico county. the next county over, ashley

county, is under a tornado watch right now. all the storms are missing us in this part of the mississippi delta, coming out of louisiana into southeastern arkansas and moving northeast. storms are moving at 50 to 60 miles an hour. even if you don't get a tornado, there's a likelihood some of you today will get straight line wind damage. those are winds that come down to the ground. we had wind gusts to 09 miles an hour in eastern texas. the severe weather indices are through the roof today. this is the most dangerous day we've seen all season. we've had a late start to the severe weather season. the jet stream was so far north in march and april, thus all the warm air in chicago, cleveland, new york city, the warmest april on record so far. with the jet stream that far north you don't get the wind energy. that's changed. it's dipping south. we have gulf of mexico moisture, a low coming out of the mississippi valley. we have twisting and turning with the wind. especially across mississippi and alabama today, a high threat of tornadoes. we have tornado watches out across parts of four or five

states right now. some of those go through the early afternoon. there will be additional tornado watches this afternoon and this evening. dangerous. get the word out, especially if you have friends that live in mobile homes. >> we really appreciate your covering it for us. getting the word out in this situation is critical. thank you, mike seidel. more now on that landmark immigration bill just signed in arizona. where nearly 500,000 immigrants reside. the new law makes it a crime for immigrants to be in the state without document. good morning again to you, jose. >> reporter: good morning, alex. some hispanic groups are discussing the possibility of creating economic boycotts around the state of arizona to try and pressure the state into realizing that 500,000 hispanics that live in and around the state are an important part of the economy. >> yes. i want to get to what this new law means for people in arizona. give me a daily basis and to

what extent people there are affected by illegal immigrants. both pros and cons. >> okay. let me just read you a line from the new bill. it it says it is unlawful for a person to transport someone in their car if the person is known or the person who is driving the person is recklessly disregarding the fact that the alien is here unlawfully. a lot of people are asking, how do you determine if someone is, i don't know, recklessly disregarding the fact that the person is an illegal immigrant, is it because they wear a certain clothing or have a certain color of their skin or have an accent? people here, hispanics here say they are racially profiled already. they worry this law will increment that possibility. now, the other side of the coin says that the border situation in the united states with mexico is out of control. the ranchers on the border say that they see hundreds of people come through their area every day and every week. they don't have any way of controlling it.

and that this is maybe a way of kind of screening out that something needs to be done. >> so, okay, i'm trying to figure out how this is going to work. i'm concerned about how it's going to be enforced. hypothetically speaking, you're driving in a car and you take some friends, people that you've met or you've been out to a dinner and offer to give people a ride home. what are you going to have to do now, say, hey, can i see your documents before you give them a ride? >> reporter: that's a very good question. if you believe the person to be an illegal immigrant, the question is, how is that determined, then you are responsible to ask that person for the documents, because if you are stopped and there doesn't have to be really probable cause, if you are stopped by the police and there is an illegal immigrant in your car, that car can be taken away, impounded. >> wow. >> reporter: i guess, yes, if you have the thought that the person is here illegally, you

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make sure the cruiser was following him, he led the trooper back to the property. we're joined by thomas, ben, and buddy the dog. good morning to you. you know this is practically everybody in the nation's favorite story right now. it's just a great one. ben, i know it was a tough thing for you, let's get to where you were. i know you're there center screen. you were in the shed when it exploded, you suffered second degree burns. first off, how are you doing? >> i'm doing good. >> you're doing good? . what do you make of all of this? when you told buddy to go get help, what did you think buddy would do? >> i don't know. i just said it and he ran off and went and got help. i didn't know what he was going to do. >> okay. lynn, i know that you called 911. tell me how you got involved and what you are aware of and what buddy did, when buddy came back

leading the state trooper, what you thought? >> i was in the house at the time. and i heard ben holler, so i quick ran outside and saw fire outside of the shed. and so i ran back in and got my shoes and the phone and i immediately called 911. and i didn't see any of the dogs at that point. and i figured they had probably just ran off into the trees. and it was -- our neighbor came over and made another call, they called a trooper. we decided we could see more of the fire coming out. we went around to the opposite side of the house and stood there and watched. and then when we saw trooper shanigan come, he told us what buddy had done. it was unbelievable. >> this is an unbelievable story. we see the video. i want to get to the trooper

here. what made you want to follow this dog? >> it was body language. for that minute and a half or so, i just happened to think that i was going to make a turn and take a left-hand turn, saw something that caught my eye, followed it around a corner and at an intersecting road buddy was standing there. i just for that minute and a half just felt like the dog was communicating with me nonverbally and followed him through. it just was an amazing experience. it's hard to really communicate it in words. because it's the first time i ever felt like this and just at the moment went with a gut feeling. >> boy are you glad you did. i want to bring in tom to the conversation. when you look at the video of the family dog and what this dog has done, how do you feel?

>> i was pretty skeptical about this when my wife lynette first told me about it. after watching the video, i was just amazed. buddy's our hero. we got two other dogs. i think they went and hid somewhere. buddy went and got help. >> buddy's the one who will get steak for dinner, i think. ben, talk about your relationship with buddy before this. you guys hang out together? is he really man's best friend? is he really ben's best friend? >> oh, yeah. i take him fishing every time i go. he's ran off a couple bears for me. >> how old is buddy? >> he is a little over five years. i got him when he was 6 weeks old. >> i tell you, it's the greatest story. we can't see enough of it. most importantly, ben, that you are okay through all of this and getting better. i hope your burns heal very

quickly. thank you so much for joining us. buddy's our hero as well. have a good one, guys. >> thank you. >> thank you. negotiations reach a critical stage in the fight for tougher reforms on wall street. a showdown vote set for monday in the senate. and never before seen photographs of the girl who would be queen. jim maceda's at buckingham palace with a sneak peek. [ female announcer ] sometimes you need tomorrow

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bret michaels was rushed to the hospital after suffering a brain hemorrhage. he remains in critical condition this morning. the former front man of the band poison arrived in intensive care with a severe headache, which doctors found was the result of bleeding at the base of his brain stem. he's currently on "celebrity apprentice." let's head overseas where never before seen photos of queen elizabeth ii have been released.

the footage shows the queen as a very young child. jim maceda is outside windsor cassle with more. >> reporter: i know you're an aficionado of british history. you might think you have little to learn about the queen. she is arguably the most photographed woman on earth, her image covers books and bills, portraits and memorabilia. believe me, there are few who have seen queen elizabeth looking quite like this. a 7-month-old care-free toddler, a 28-year-old playful mother of two. photos buried in decades have come back to life in an exhibition at windsor castle. the work of marcus adams, considered the best child portraitist of his era. seen in this rare film footage clowning with 4-year-old elizabeth. >> he would engage with the child, just taking the photograph to catch an completion or a mood if and when that happened. >> reporter: over two generations adams captured the

windsors in a series of snapshots. the duke and duchess of york, their eldest daughter elizabeth who called herself lilibet and her younger sister. her uncle, king edward viii abdicated the throne to marry. four days later, king george vi posed with his family. george was hardly prepared to be king. but adams captured a calm, reassuring royal family. elizabeth, mature beyond her ten years, perhaps already knowing one day she would be queen. >> they teach us that the royal family was a close-knit ordinary family, that just loved being together. >> reporter: opening today, just days after queen elizabeth turned 84, the exhibition is a nostalgic look back to the time long before the troubled marriages of charles and diana

rocked the house of windsor. but lilibet knew nothing of that, back in adams studio 80 years ago, her world was a bouquet of flowers and a little ball she tossed joyfully at the camera. the windsors favorite photographer, marcus adams died in 1959. many of these photos haven't been seen since then. others were actually found in the queen mum's private albums and were collected only after her death. they are all truly a piece of british history. alex? >> and a fun piece from you. thank you so much, jim maceda. a stormy saturday all over the country. tornado warnings in place across the south. thunderstorms and hail are also expected in the midwest and the southeast. but rain isn't the only threat. look at that. winter storm warnings for heavy snow also reportedly in place in colorado today. take a look at that twister. those are scary.

raphael miranda joins with us the latest. we're dealing with snow, a large system across the center of the country. our main concern today will be the severe weather threat, the potential for a major tornadic outbreak. as we take a look at that bullseye there, the area shaded in white is where the greatest potential for tornadoes is later this morning into the afternoon, including portions of mississippi, alabama, the deep south. a close-up of the memphis radar here, the storms moving into the memphis area. these storm have the potential to create tornadoes, large hail and gusty winds. we'll be watching these over the next hour or so. tornado watch in effect for memphis, into new orleans and the early afternoon. the good news is, we have nice weather in the northeast. sunshine in new york city, but the rain moves into the northeast tomorrow. alex? >> okay. thank you for that. raphael miranda. for all your latest weather alerts, be sure to check in with weather.com. good news for the economy this week. the dow jones industrial average is in the middle of its longest winning streak in more than six years. finishing up for eight weeks in a row now.

and after record lows in february, new home sales climbed 27% in march, according to the commerce department. that's the biggest one-month gain in 47 years and a good sign that investors are gaining confidence. but it's not all good news, of course, the fdic shut down seven more banks in illinois which makes for a total of 57 failed banks in the country this year. more banks are expected to close in 2010 than in 2009. the financial reform fight continues. democratic senator chris dodd is working with republican senator richard shelby to achieve a bipartisan bill which faces a vote on monday. is this something that has been achieved? what about the progressive democrats' bill which some say is the key to real reform. joining me now is neil irwin, financial reporter for "the washington post." good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> what does reform mean to you and mean? how does it shake down? >> try and give righters more tools they can use to reign in

risky behavior by financial institutions and prevent a crisis like the one we've gone through. there's some key elements, a consumer protection agency housed within the federal reserve and the current version which would have power to restrict lending that might ab busive or dangerous for people. there's elements to try and reign in derivatives, these risky complex investments that are a major factor in the crisis. so a lot of things to try and prevent i future crisis and protect ordinary americans. >> you know, is there a clear line between democrats and republicans? i mean, are dems for the little guys and the go for big business or do they all take money from business? >> wall street interest has spread around a lot of money to both parties on capitol hill. i wouldn't think of it as a binary thing. it has a different feel from the health care debate. the lines came entrenched on what the issues were and what the two parties believed in. financial reform is a lot fuzzier, not as many people have

spent their careers studying this and thinking about this. there is a real prospect of a bipartisan bill here in the way there waen with the health care. >> if this passes, neil, do i have to stop worrying about my 401(k) being a 201-k? >> you never have to stop worrying. if this works, that's a big if, we v should have a more stable financial system. that said, you know, there have been financial crises for a thousand years. the idea that we'll completely eliminate financial crises and downturns in the stock market is a little too much to ask. >> again, getting out to the folks out there, go to banks, trying to get a mortgage, they want to be part of this surge in new home sales. does this mean banks will loosen up their mortgage lending practices now? >> if anything, it might reign them in and kind of revent banks from making loans they might have otherwise made during the boom years. that said, if we have a more

stable financial system we won't end up where lending freezes up. that's not the kind of thing that would have an immediate impact on the availability of credit. >> bipartisan consensus, is this possible on financial reform? >> it is. there's enough returns who don't want to be seen as being pro wall street. i think at the end of the day you get 10 or 15 republican votes on this. >> always good to talk to you. thanks so much. >> thanks, alex. what was a 14-year-old working at a strip club for? that is what police in detroit are asking this morning. and a rash of robberies targeting older men in florida. they say they've been drugged and robbed. police say there could be more victims out there. ♪ ♪ with gillette's fusion regimen. proven to lubricate during shaving

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the manager of a detroit strip club is facing up to 20 years behind bars after officials learned that a topless dabser at the club was just 14 years old. the girl has been dancing at

that club for the past two months. the club manager is charged with felony child sexual abuse activity. the girl's mother says she wants that club shut down. new this morning, florida officials say older men in the state are falling victim to date robbery and all the suspects are women. the men say they, drugged and then robbed of jewelry and cash. joining me now is investigative reporter michelle sigona. good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> how have m victims are we talking about and how does this happen. >> on record, what investigators confirmed to me, there's five so far. one of the investigators told me that more victims have come forward since all of these reports are out there now. and they encourage other victims to please come forward, we know you may be afraid of sharing your identity, don't worry, you can remain anonymous. they fear some of the victims are obviously married, they may have girlfriends, obviously they may have been victimized.

>> where is this happening? >> this is happening in florida. there's a variety of cases, palm beach shores, palm beach county, boca raton. i've spoke within investigators from all of those agencies. they began, alex, on march 2 nd. that was when the first alleged incident happened all the way up to april 9th. now that investigators are compiling a time line, they are figuring out where the new attacks may have occurred. >> who are investigators targeting? who do they think is behind all this. >> they do know they're looking at this time for one female. she is seen in surveillance video and that's going to be at the attack that happened just in the later portion of march. also, she may have an accomplice. so that's something else that investigators are looking into, that this is probably two women that they are taking advantage of men in their 50s and 60s. they are, you no he, coming on to them, flirting, apparently and apparently slping the islip

drugs into their drunks. they pass out, steal rolexes, cash. they maid off with more than 50,000 sodz far. >> is it bars, parties, where do the guys come from? >> it's both. mainly restaurant type bar areas. one was on a boat. apparently he and the alleged suspect began talking, she went on the boat, he passed out, five hours later woke up and realized everything was gone. >> michelle sigona, thanks for the heads up on this. >> thank you. logon to michellesigona.com for more on this story. an average of 22% of americans polled since president obama took office say they trust the government always or most of the time. that is a far cry from the 68% of americans who trusted the government during the kennedy and johnson administration.

we have a political reporter with "the washington post." karen, good morning. good to see you. >> hi, alex. >> what is behind this drop in trust? is it we're dealing with a different kind of government or are we a different kind of public? >> the good news in the report is that people do still trust the postal service and the military. but i think if you read deeply into the data, you see a couple of things going on. one is that this is in part a reflection of the fact that people are feeling a lot of stress in their own lives. economic stress. they see they've got problems and they don't necessarily see that government is actually dealing with their problems. they believe it doesn't operate well. it's inefficient. it wastes their money. and ultimately doesn't do what they need it to do. >> okay. i want to throw up a couple of stats as i ask you this question, with 56% of americans saying they're frustrated, 21%

saying they're outright angry. 19% say they're basically content. what is it americans want that they think they're not getting from the government? >> again, they want to see that their tax dollars are being spent for their benefit. i think right now what people see is a lot of stuff coming out of washington, you know, we have just seen the passage of the biggest social program since at least the 1960s in health care reform. but people still don't quite understand, i think, what's in this bill now that's law that's going to help them. that's a big part of it. there's also, by the way, a bit of a partisan issue here, in that when there's a democratic president, if you look back over the history of this data, republicans tend to lose their trust in government a lot faster than democrats do when there's a republican president. >> interesting. in terms of what people say they want for their tax dollars, are they getting specific at all, do they want teachers and education? do they want roads fixed, do

they want tax refunds or not have to pay so much in taxes? does this get to the heart of what americans are missing in their lives that they believe the federal government is responsible for? >> i think what they believe at this point is, you no he, the biggest thing that if you talk to politicians in this upcoming midterm election, they say the thing that is going to drive it is whether people feel like they have jobs, whether the government is doing enough to sort of establish a firm foundation in the economy going forward that things are going to look better for people. >> do you have an idea who will bear the brunt of this anger come november with the midterms? >> it's the party in power. the democrats are fully expecting that this is going to be a pretty ugly year for them. they may lose -- typically the president's party in a midterm election loses something close to 30 seats in the house. there's real talk that in fact democratic control of the house could be in jeopardy. >> karen, always a good conversation.

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it was a special day for the family of one philadelphia marine, after serving serving afghanistan after five months, he surprised his son, j.c. at school, returning a month early. his wife didn't even know he was back, finding out when she went to pick up j.c. at school. new and chilling details in the plot to bomb new york city subways last fall. a new york taxi driver pleaded guilty to terrorism charges. he said he got his orders from al qaeda. joining me mow from washington is michael isikoff. michael, good morning. >> good morning. >> what was your most startling takeaway from all this new information?

>> that this plot came from al qaeda central, the leadership of al qaeda in northwest pakistan. for the last couple years there's been a lot of terrorism cases made by the justice department and the fbi and until about a year ago, they tended to be the lone wolves, the people who were inspired by al qaeda, who read about it on the internet. and were an ideological sympathy. we've seen a number of cases over the last year, and this being perhaps the strongest example, where the directions were coming from the very top, directly from al qaeda leaders on that afghanistan/pakistan border. in this case, the queens cab driver who pled guilty said he, along with naj i zazi.

they didn't get there, but they got recruited by al qaeda leaders, they identified them yesterday in federal court, one was the chief of al qaeda, external pragues and they were the ones who directed them to launch this attack against the new york city subways. >> here's what's really concerning. this guy, the 25-year-old was a taxi driver, someone who knew the city well. >> right. >> they targeted the person they needed most. >> exactly. look, that is always the -- what al qaeda is looking for, people in the united states who know the territory, who can come in and out of the united states, who are u citizens or have green cards and zazi was the shuttled -- airport shuttle driver in denver who was from new york. all these people knew each other from queens, they knew the new

york city subways. they suggested, i think it was zazi suggested, let's not go after buildings, we can kill more people by attacking the subway system. they planned attacks from grand central and another subway stop in new york. >> michael, do we get a sense from what we're hearing that there were more people attached to this particular plot or others out there that have plots like this percolating? >> look, that is the $64,000 question. are there others out there? we do know that the two al qaeda leaders who are identified in federal court yesterday have been killed since in drone attacks. those guys have been picked off. but as we see so many times, you kill them and there's so many others who take their place. >> michael isikoff, good to talk to you. thanks. >> thank you. a deadly fungus spreading fast across the pacific northwest. what is it and how big is the threat? we get the answers, next on "msnbc saturday."