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tornado fallout -- cleaning up after deadly twisters and a look at the storm as it was happening. e-mail trail -- new documents released by the government suggest goldman sachs officials boasted about making money as the housing market collapsed. today goldman is firing back. killer fungus. unraveling the mystery of an airborne illness that is spreading out west. we're going to talk with a doctor about it. battle of arizona -- new protests expected today over that tough immigration law. we're going to hear why some say it could lead to a hassle for a lot of people. good sunday morning, everyone. i'm alex witt and welcome to "msnbc sunday." 10:00 a.m. on the east coast, 7:00 a.m. in the west. tornadoes ripped through at least four states saturday afternoon. mississippi appears to be the hardest hit with ten people dead including three children and at least a dozen more are injured. meanwhile, officials are out this morning assessing all the damage in the hardest hit areas. at least 15 counties in mississippi are reporting damage. several homes are destroyed, thousands across the state are

without power, and mississippi governor haley barbour described the scene in yazoo city as, quote, utter obliteration. >> it's just remark to believe see the people who pull a four-wheel around the back of the pickup truck, sling the chainsaw over the back, and just ride in where the trucks can't get, where nobody can go, and just start helping people dig out. it reminds me of katrina. >> we have live team coverage for you this morning with our reporters across mississippi, including nbc's kerry sanders at the center of your screen, nbc's charles had lock to the left and the weather channel's mike seidel. first mill creek, mississippi, where kerry sanders is standing by for us. kerry, it's got to be a difficult morning for the residents there. what are they saying? >> reporter: well, of course, a lot of sadness. five of the deaths were right in this area in mill creek here in mississippi. and, well, look at the devastation. there is an amazing story, as

well, here. when this trailer was picked up and moved about 30 feet, inside was a 13-year-old girl by the name of ann. she was actually blown out of the trailer and into the tree over here, and there you can see the chevy trail blazer that's also up in the tree so, a tremendous power. her name is ann pipmany and i can't help she had an epiphany when she woke up and realized she was not dead. chris, a supervisor in the county. where were you when this hit, and i see the death and destruction here. how do you feel about what's happened to your community? >> well, it's a lot of destruction. we were truly blessed with the destruction that we had not to have the five deaths and our hearts and prayers go out to the families. i was in a storm spot at a ridge nearby when it hit and as soon as we got the word where it hit,

we had our sirens going off in the different towns. this is a rural area, so it's hard for people to really be aware of the situation. >> reporter: chris, while i'm talking to you, we're also going to look up here because i see a black hawk helicopter and we were informed haley barbour would come in here. what sort of help do you need from the federal and state government? >> right now we're receiving help from nema, our state emergency management agency. our local agent, tracy, has coordinated everything. last night we workeds into the wee hours going door to door, accounting for everybody, making sure that all people were accounted for. >> reporter: are they all accounted for? >> so far we've got everything accounted for. we've done kind of a spot check on the houses to assess the damage because the governor will want to know that information pretty soon. and right now we've got electric crews in, working, trying to restore power, but we have so many poles down it's going to be a while. >> reporter: chris, you have

residents who want to come back. what are you telling them, and how long will they have to wait? >> i would recommend -- i'm going to say at least another day. we've got -- the with the utility crews trying to replace the poles, equipment trying to remove debris, it's real dangerous on the roads right here just to get in. we're not letting anybody in unless they live here and really and truly anybody that's wanting to come and look, they need to stay out. >> reporter: chris, i know you've got a lot of work ahead of you. thanks for taking some time here. those that left their homes here had to find other places to stay. in some cases, they stayed with family and friends. other cases, there's a school right down here, the academy that opened up. >> the academy. >> reporter: and they helped out as well as the red cross. let me just sort of finish up here. see this thing here, this big piece of metal? this is the frame of a trailer but not from this trailer, from another trailer down the way. we don't know how far away. but it gives you an idea, as you see it all twisted up here, the power of this tornado, which some of the expers are now saying at minimum was an ef-3,

160 miles an hour. a very powerful tornado that came through here. a lot of destruction and with ten deaths a lot of sadness. alex? >> kerry, i can't even imagine that piece of metal that you see right there being flung through the air. i mean, it's absolutely horrifying to conceive of. yeah. >> reporter: it's stunning when you consider that as all of this is going on there's a 13 glooerld there and then thrown out and by the handle of god somehow survives in the debris field when just probably 500 yards that way over there the tornado headed that direction, it hopped over the trees that you see here, hit another trailer and inside that trailer a mother and her daughter died. so, i would's just so random. >> all right. well, kerry, next hour give us an update on that dog you've been helping, the one who survived outside all night long. incredible stories. the twister that torqued through mississippi measured up to three-quarters of a mile wide. imagine that.

nbc meteorologist bill karins will talk about how strong the tornado was. >> they call them wedge tornadoes. there's the skinny tiny ones that look like a little funnel and a little finger, then there's ones that look like a big wedge or a cylinder moving along the ground. this is one of those big, huge wedge ones, and not only was it big but it was strong. we're going to find out today officially whether they're going to call it an ef-3 or an ef-4, but regardless you saw the damage done by this storm. that wasn't on the ground continuously. it jumped the tree line and then came back down. it appeared skipping along the ground as it went. that's why it's just not fair. it could hit one house, jump over the top of another and come down and hit someone else. people are wondering what's next today because we've had three days of severe weather, we've had over 100 tornados in the last three days from colorado all the way now to what the -- the damage we saw last night. today we have some isolated tornadoes. if we're going to get them, it's probably going to be down in florida, especially north or

central florida. i don't think we'll get the big huge ones like yesterday. the atmospheric situation just isn't quite the same. here's what we'll be dealing with. the wind damage will take the biggest threat around florida. we could see large hail around pittsburgh, west virginia, areas of virginia itself when the cold front sweeps on through. now, as far as right now, tallahassee was hit pretty hard with some gusty winds and heavy rain and lightning this morning. now that is beginning to head out, valdosta has some pretty bad storms and further to the north up around is a vsavannah. this was a well predicted storm, we thought we'd have these large, destructive tornadoes. won't be the case today. but unfortunately sometimes the forecast did come true. >> unfortunately you had it pinpointed for yesterday. thank you very much, bill karins. more live reports on the tornados that hit the southeast coming up later this hour. for the latest forecast and the weather where you are, you can head to weather.com. coast guard officials in louisiana now say oil is leaking into the gulfs as a result of the massive rig that exploded

last week. the well head on the ocean floor is releasing as much as 100,000 barrels of oil a day into the water. british petroleum is investigating how to stop that leak. president obama will travel to west virginia today to pay tribute to the 29 miners killed after an explosion at the upper big branch mine earlier this month. nbc's athena jones is at the white house for us. athena, good sunday morning to you. in just a few hours, the president will take that somber memorial service. >> reporter: yes. good morning, alex. as soon as the president arrives in west virginia, he and vice president joe biden will be meeting with some of the families of the miners killed. that's before the service this afternoon at 3:30. the president, the vice president, as well as the governor and first lady of west virginia will all be speaking at that service. as the white house press secretary told us this week, today is really about celebrating the lives of the miners lost, offering the president's deep condolences to the families. the white house has called for a full investigation into the incident at the upper big branch

mine run by massey energy. it's the worst mining disaster in the united states in 40 years. and we expect the president during his eulogy to touch on mine safety issues. he'll talk about all the e-mails and letters that have poured into the white house since the explosion, many from miners postmarked from all around the region, talking about how miners are important for america's economy. they keep america's lights on. but please, please, don't let this sort of thing happen again. before the president heads to west virginia, though, he'll be meeting with the reverend billy graham in north carolina at his home. this is going to be the first time the president will be meeting face to face with the reverend graham. they've spoken on the phone before. and back in november, when reverend graham turned 91, they decided they'd try to meet face to face as soon as possible. a little bit of news this morning. we don't expect to see any television coverage of that meeting but maybe we'll get a picture later on today. >> thank you very much, athena jones at the white house. >> reporter: thanks. >> speaking of television coverage, msnbc will air the president's remarks at the miners' memorial. our coverage begins at 3:00 p.m.

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the debate over financial reform heats up again tomorrow. that's when the senate's expected to vote on a bill that's intended to rein in wall street and increase government oversight. tomorrow's vote will be on whether to begin debate on the bill. but will the democrats have enough support to get the legislation passed? on this morning's "meet the press," moderator david gregory talked with senator chris dodd of connecticut and republican senator richard shelby of alabama. >> we're getting there. we have more work> a to do. we'll be meeting later today to

talk about it. we're not there yet. i would hope we could get the votes tomorrow. >> i think we're closer than we've ever been, and will we get a bill by tomorrow? i doubt it. i would always hope so because there's so much involved. but i think we will get a bill if the democrats want a bill and will give us some things that we think that are substantive in nature. >> and you can watch the entire interview later today at 2:00 p.m. eastern right here on "msnbc sunday." this tuesday, goldman sachs' ceo lloyd blankfein is headed to capitol hill where he'll be grilled by a senate subcommittee about his firm's role in the mortgage crisis. he'll be asked about a series of e-mails just made public by the subcommittee which show goldman sachs executives talking about the money they were making while the mortgage market was collapsing. jeff rossen joins me live with more. good morning. >> good morning to you. the internal e-mails were released by the senate subcommittee investigating the financial crisis. the accusation here that goldman

made a windfall by betting against the mortgage market even as it continued to sell products to investors that relied on the strength of the mortgage market. in other words, when the mortgage market lost and when other investors lost, the accusation is goldman won. at one point, when credit rating agencies downgraded millions of dollars in mortgage-backed investments, one goldman executive wrote, on your screen right now, "sounds like we will make some serious money." another executive agreed, writing, "yes, we are all well positioned." another e-mail released is from goldman sachs ceo lloyd blankfein himself in response to a message about a news article that was about to run. the article was going to say that goldman dodged the mortgage mess. blankfein responded, quote, of course we didn't dodge the mortgage mess. we lost money, then made more than we lost because of our shorts. also, it's not over so, who knows how it will turn out ultimately. shorts here meaning short positions or bets that the market will go down. a goldman spokesman says the

senate subcommittee that released these e-mails, quote, cherry-picked four e-mail threads to release out of 20 million pages of documents this company provided and that goldman actually did lose money in the mortgage market in 2007 and 2008. goldman sachs, we should mention, is also facing a civil lawsuit by the s.e.c., alleging fraud, but that case could take years. and it is also completely separate, alex, from tuesday's senate subcommittee hearing. tuesday's hearing expected to gather some momentum for financial reform here, alex. but a lot going on with goldman. >> could be a few fireworks on tuesday. >> yes, yes. >> thank you very much, jeff rossen. >> sure. from there back to breaking news. ten people are dead and more are still missing from a massive tornado that tore through mississippi. governor haley barbour declared a national emergency in the state saying the tornado caused utter obliteration. an estimated 100 houses in yazoo county alone were severely damaged by the powerful twister.

>> coming down everywhere. >> storm chaser video right there. toppled trees are forcing rescuers to use altered vehicles to reach citizens. to yazoo city where charles hadlock is live for us. charles, let's get a look at what it looks like where you are. a toppled tree there, amazing what power this storm had. >> reporter: it really is, alex. every tornado you see, it's just incredible the power of nature. the thing about this storm is the track of this storm was more than 150 miles long. that's all the way across mississippi. the this storm system, the storm cell touched down just across the mississippi river, and the folks here had warning. they had about an hour's worth of warning knowing that a tornado was on the ground just to the southwest of them. what they didn't know is it was

going to take a direct aim right at them. and people said they just couldn't believe what they saw when they looked out the windows. they ran for cover. just over my shoulder here is a steak house. i talked to the owner who said he saw the tornado coming, ran back into the restaurant, got his employees and some of the customers there into the cooler of his restaurant. the restaurant was obliterated, the back half of it is gone, but everyone in that cooler survived. take a look at this ravine here. the trailers and other debris that were up on the hill here are blown into the ravine. up on the bridge, it looks like a lumber mill. those are houses over there. the roofs have been blown off, the timers shattered and blown into the wind. they're still looking for survivors today but they really believe they've found everyone they're going to find. there are some unaccounted for but of course they could be out running errands, they could be on vacation. other folks just don't know where they are, but authorities

believe they've found all the victims they're going to find, at least for now, alex. >> charles hadlock, thanks for the update from yazoo city. >> reporter: sure. >> if you have pictures of the video and the storm, we want to see it, but always be safe. don't put glours danger. you might see them online or on our air here live sxwroop a new poll out. where does president obama rank? it says that when you buy a grand caravan, dodge will give you 60 days to decide if you want to keep it. that's ridiculous. look at it. it's got seating for up to seven, a smooth v6 engine and a five star government crash test rating. why would you need 60 days, really, who is that indecisive? the dodge "you won't need 60 days to decide but we'll give it to you anyway" event.

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eliot spitzer was no-show at last night's tribecca film festival premiere. the documentary about his rise and fall in the world of politics. the director says his untitled film about the former governor is almost finished. it includes footage from four separate interviews of spitzer filmed over two years. his wife, silva, and former call girl, ashley dupre, were not interviewed for the film. it was made in conjunction with author peter elkin, who released "rough justice: the rise and fall of eliot spitzer." both the book and the movie are sympathetic to spitzer, who is said to be looking to put the past behind him and possibly rejoining public office. a washington reporter for "the washington post" joining us now. >> thanks for having me. >> eliot spitzer made his name as a big crusader against wall street, timely right now. do you think the public is ready for an eliot spitzer comeback? >> i don't think the public is getting a say in the matter, frankly. he is all over the place. he's had this column in "slate,"

he's doing all sorts of interviews. he's making lots of appearances. his no-show last night notwithstanding. he seems to have concluded the best pr strategy is skip the mea culpa and go straight back into the public eye. >> let's talk about what happened with the "daily news" reporter who was in attendance last night. he says spitzer in the movie, the scandal -- the scandal, quote, never interviewed with governance and spitzer says, quote, the metaphor i think is of icarus. >> right. >> do you agree with the old spitzer on spitzer take here? >> the god who flew too close to the sun. >> hubris. melted and there you go. >> look, i think it's interesting to hear him talking about the scandal. this is something that was pretty retched, pretty icky and a lot of people want to get into the details. you'd think he'd want to move back into talking about substance but obviously he's going to get these questions. maybe he's concluded he'll be able to set them aside by

answering them here once and for all. there's an interesting interview with him in today's "new york times" where' he's talking about andrew como, running for office and he seems to be getting back into substance but for a little while longer he'll have to talk about his personal issues. >> you have to wonder how much that's going to muddy the waters of a potential return because, you know, his intelligence i don't believe has ever been questioned. he's a really intelligent guy and he positioned himself as going after the crooks on wall street and all that, which appeals to main street. but how about the democratic party? do you think they're going to embrace him coming back into the political fold publicly speaking? >> well, i think it's too soon to tell there. i think there's no question that his personal behavior being involved in a prostitution ring will always be in the first paragraph of his obituary. i think the question, though, is whether the voters at some point in new york or wherever he decides to run, however he decides to run, conclude that they, too, can separate his personal actions from his professional ones. >> can you think, historically

speaking, of another public official with this sort of a fall? maybe not the exact circumstances of this fall but who had a political, like, phoenix from the ashes moment like that? >> i think it would really depend on what he's running for and what he's trying to do. certainly he could be a commentator and write columns and make appearances and have this be part of his, you know, past. but i don't know. it depends on what he decides to run for if he does someday. >> thanks so much. >> thank you. the weather channel says there were 30 tornadoes yesterday in the southeast. we'll take you back to the hardest hit area in just a moment. ♪ my subaru saved my life.

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and several buildings had their roofs torn off and at least ten people are dead, and that would include three children. the hardest hit area is yazoo city. that is the hometown of mississippi governor haley barbour. governor barbour described the scene as utter obliteration. for the latest, the weather channel's mike seidel is live in mississippi. good morning. let's get the latest you're seeing there. >> reporter: well, one thing we talked about this morning is how people have dealt with this as the tornado hit and charles hadlock was just talking to you about how the restaurant owner down the street at the steak house got his employees and customers into the cooler. well, just across the street there was a little bar, a little local hangout, a little joint where they probably have some bands that play. well, the bar owner there also went into the cooler and saved his life. so coolers, we've also heard stories in past tornado outbreaks of getting into bank vaults. they seem to be pretty sturdy bank structures. this is one place you didn't

want to be. all that's left is mangled steel, some vehicles thrown around in there. and the neighborhood we're concerned with is behind me. the tornado came through here from this direction right through here at about 55 miles an hour. you can see all the grass here laying down in this direction, so we know the winds here were blowing in that direction with that counterclockwise spin. but there are some homes -- it's hard to see the roof beyond this tree which has been stripped bare, basically just wood now. that's where they're trying to get back to. there are some folks unaccounted for, alex. hopefully everybody is fine. they may be out of town, on vacation, but the mayor of yazoo city wants to get in and check. yesterday it was almost next to impossible to get in there because of all the debris. even atvs couldn't get in there. today, a great day for cleanup pshgs sadness certainly remains but sunny, a warm day, low humidity. that was one of the culprits yesterday, all that rich juice, gulf of mexico moisture, and today it's much more comfortable out here. as the heavy equipment is coming in, volunteers are coming in and

the process will kick into high gear of getting this mass of destruction hauled away over the next several weeks and several months. alex? >> and you're right, just a couple of hours of a storm and months of cleanup afterwards. nbc meteorologist bill karins joins us now. does this storm pose any threats to parts of the country, bill? >> not like yesterday. not eve an quarter of yesterday's war worry. florida for the most part we're watching a tornado threat but overall we have seen the worst of it. the damage you're looking at, what we'll wait to hear is what was the intensity, what were the winds estimated at. because they've done these wind tunnel tests where they've taken pieces of plywood and trees and see what the winds can do, they can estimate the category. you know hurricane categories, zero through 5 but there's the enhanced fujita scale, a tornado ranking. right now they're saying this was probably an ef-3 with winds

maybe of 165 miles per hour. it is possible that this could have been an ef-4. in case you're wondering, one of the more famous tornadoes we had was the one that hit oklahoma, an ef-5, over 200 miles an hour, and there was nothing left but the poured concrete. it's not an ef-5, probably an ef-3 or maybe at times an ef-4. one thing that's interesting with storms like this, this was on the ground on and off for maybe 200 miles traveling at 60 miles per hour. a lot of people were wondering, well, everyone knew we were going to have a huge tornado outbreak, everyone even knew because of storm trackers this was on the ground. they were calling ahead and telling everyone in the cities ahead stay out of the way. but the fact it was moving at 60 miles per hour still probably caught some people by surprise. alex was wondering who is at risk today. we do not have any tornado watches or warnings, so there's nothing of imminent danger at the current time. we'll watch florida closely, especially if they get sunshine today, from tampa, orlando,

daytona beach, jacksonville, that line of storms still has to go through your area today. we'll also see stormy weather up and down the east coast. the slight risk area in the yellow. yesterday we had the white color painted on this. there's three different ranges, yellow is slight, and medium is high. yesterday that was a high risk and the forecast did come true, unfortunately. >> bill karins, thank you. as for the latest updates on the southeast weather system, to track the forecast where you are, head to weather.com. iceland's two major airports are shut down for the second day in a row. even though iceland is home to the volcano that put air traffic on hold for europe, that country had not really been affected by the ash because the winds has been carrying the debris clouds away from iceland south to europe. but a change of wind direction forced authorities to close the air space friday. other european flight schedules are for the most part back to normal. a new deadly strain of an airborne fungus has emerged in oregon.

the cryptococcus gattii fungus, as it's called, has reportedly killed about 25% of those infected. it is now set to spread into california and washington state. joining us is dr. ira bright with westside medical associates. good morning to you. >> thank you. good morning. >> 1 out of 4 people it will kill? >> it may, but there are only 21 people that reported who have been sick so far so the absolute numbers are still small. however, the whole thing is quite worrisome because of the changes that this cryptococcus, this yeast has undergone over the years. >> are there target people that have compromised immune systems, that are otherwise sick, the elderly, kids, or could anybody get hit with this? >> this is what's so worrisome about it. cryptococcus normally affects people who are immunocompromised, and this speeshds ten

species tends to infect regular people, who don't have aids, who are not on chemotherapy -- you, me, anybody. that's why this is so worrisome. >> is there anything that strikes in your mind a reason those people who are killed by it and those who are not? is there anything? >> there aren't enough numbers to say. what's rally worrisome is in 1999 when the cryptococcus started infecting the pacific northwest, it was not a good disease to have but it wasn't as fatal as it appears to be now. >> this thing has morphed? >> yeah. a recent study from dukey]wuw s there are real genetic changes occurring in this cryptococcus gattii. it's not your father's cryptococcus, if you will. >> what's also concerning is the symptoms, which could go for any number of different problems that one might have or ailments. >> yeah. no. i think sort of as a general doctor, one of my biggest fears is that somebody is going to walk -- obviously not in new york but if i were a doctor in seattle and oregon where this is hitting, that somebody would

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ten are dead and more are missing from a massive tornado in mississippi. 17 counties declaring states of emergency. an estimated 100 houses in yazoo county alone were severely damaged by the powerful twister. national guard troops are patrolling the areas hit by the storm to look for survivors and

prevent any looting. washington versus wall street. tomorrow the senate is expected to vote on a bill that's intended to overhaul this nation's financial regulatory system. but can both parties reach an agreement or will it be a repeat of the fighting that we saw that divided the health care debate? let's bring in rick newman, chief business correspondent with u.s. news and world report. good morning. >> hi, alex. >> can we get to reform? to the average guy watching, how is he or she going to benefit? >> you would think it's not going to do anything for you tomorrow or the day after it passes, but what it will do for the economy if it's done right is simply create a more stable and predictable financial system, which is good for everybody, so fewer of those risky loans that never should have happened in the first place. but look at the problems we've got now. a lot of people can't get loans, and especially small businesses need loans to grow and keep moving. so we hope that a more stable system will sort of make credit available to the right people consistently and then there are these other plans to have a consumer protection agency which

would kind of pull together in one place things that a bunch of different agencies do right now, in theory offer better oversight of financial products similar to the way that the fda, for example, regular lates foot. we'll see where that goes. >> from a political perspective, is there a clear line between democrats and republicans? are the democrats is ones for the little guys and is the gop the one that aligns themselves with big business? or do both parties take money from the banks and big business. >> they both do. wall street is firmly rooted in washington. there's no question about it. one of the things that happened during the crisis is washington just looked the other way. republicans, democrats, agencies, congress, everybody looked the other way and said the economy is booming, the party's on, let's just not interrupt. obvio obviously, the republicans took a unified stance against health care reform and in this case that seems like it's not likely to happen, simply because you can't stand up and say i stand for wall street. it's just really easy for the democrats in this case to say anybody who opposes reform is standing with wall street. i think we're going to see a few

republicans get on board here. >> if nings regulation passes, does that mean i don't have to which is now a 201? >> some of that money has come back. i think one of the actual dangers of saying we're going to have something that protects consumers from financial products is the consumers stop paying attention on their own. to me one of the most important lessons is you need to pay close attention to where you're investing your money, you need to read the fine print when you take out a loan. you need to know what you're committing to yourself to because there were many causes of this problem. one is people took out loans they never should have because people said don't worry about it, the interest rate is low now and don't worry about the future. >> is that the mortgage lending? do you think it's going to be easier now? are people less concerned about -- >> well, it's easier because a lot of people can't get mortgages and obviously banks have gone the other way. so instead of giving out a lot of loans they shouldn't be

they're not giving out any loans at all hardly and people who probably deserve a loan should r not getting it. but that will ease. >> really? >> absolutely. and the question -- everybody who's got an mortgage knows there are 39 pages of fine print and you kind of don't bother to read all that. that stuff matters. even if there's a new agency that protects consumers from some of the bad practices, i hope one of the lessons is people, watch out for yourselves. >> very good lesson. thank you very much. >> thanks, alex. a south korean official today is saying a torpedo sank one of its warships. though north korea has not been directly blamed for attacks, suspicion remains high. the last piece of the warship was lifted from the water yesterday. an al qaeda front group in iraq is validating claims by the iraqi and u.s. governments that two top al qaeda figures were killed last week. the group posted a statement on the internet today. the two al qaeda members were

killed while hiding at a safe house in the city of tikrit north of baghdad. vice president biden described their deaths as a potentially devastating blow to al qaeda in iraq. well, hundreds of demonstrators are expected at arizona state's capital today to protest the new law that will require state police to question anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally. the governor signed that law two days ago. it is expected to take effect in late july or early august. she says illegal immigrants are terrorizing the state and the new law will protect arizona citizens. but opponents of the law say it's going to open the floodgates to racial profiling. i'm joined live in phoenix by d.d. blaze, the president of the arizo arizona hispanic republicans. hi, there. how you doing? >> i'm fine. how are you? >> the bill sponsor says the opponents of this law are using racial profiling as a cover for their real concern, which is deportation. what do you make of pearce's

assertion that there? >> i think that what pearce did is bring back operation wetback. he brought it back, and now we believe this is alabama in the 1960s. he just shipped us back to the 1960s. and what -- >> no, the analogy there, i've had a lot of people say the same thing on my twitter page. anyway, go ahead. i'm sorry to have interrupted. >> no, i just think that, you know, he trampled on our constitution to -- under the guise of enforcing our laws. and what russell pearce's bill did is it eased the requirements of probable cause. and now, i was born here, i'm a veteran, served my country honorably, i don't feel safe from illegal searches and seizures anymore. >> so do you think that you, what, merely by your appearance and the fact that you, you know, have a background that would suggest, what, that you have

ethnicity in your blood, your background, be it hispanic, spanish? do you think that is enough that it makes you uncomfortable? >> i don't dress up every day. if i'm in an old car wearing a flannel shirt, holes in my jeans or what have you, number one, what di thai did is they inserted new terminology that anybody -- that a law enforcement official can pull anybody over with reasonable suspicion if they believe thatg somebody's illegal. but janet, what does an illegal immigrant look like? brown? i mean, this is ridiculous. it's on appearance. it's on appearance. >> state senator pearce is republican. you're a republican. how do you find other republicans weighing in on this? although i will say that there was a state poll that showed i believe 84% of registered republicans agreeing with this law.

>> i don't think that the other republicans understand how hispanics feel, how i feel. i'm a veteran. and they don't understand that what russell pearce did was ease the requirements of probable cause. what he did was expand government. that's what he did. and that's not a republican principle. >> all right. you say on your website that you ultimately hold president obama accountable for getting this law passed. he's got 50 states to think about. every state has a health care reform problem. not every state has a border state issue. why shoot-arouuldn't arizona bed to pass its own measure to protect its own boarder? >> janet brewer said it herself. she blamed the federal government. she believes this is a federal issue. borders are a federal issue. that's the other issue i have with the republican party. you hear more of them talk about the southern border and not just talking about all of the borders. they should be -- if they're

going to talk about security, let's talk about the southern border and the canadian porous border. i mean, that's -- that's why we're feeling this way. >> i'm curious what's going to happen come august when there's a politically charged primary going on there. you have governor jan brewer up for election. she's republican. you're a republican. are you going to support her? >> i'm not going to vote for her at all. she turned a blind eye to a crisis situation to my people. we have a lot of hispanics here, 30% hispanics here in the state of arizona are legal voters. i am not going to vote for that woman. >> how about constituents, those people that you are speaking for? will they? >> i'm not -- you know, i'm pro-life. i just can't see myself voting for terry goddard. it goes against my principles. if you're going to uphold the sanctity of life and be pro family, you know, this is anti-family. what they're doing here i want you to know, what they're doing here is they're ripping families

apart. they're taking parents away from their children. and these children are being left behind with their neighbors. this is why it's inhumane. why haven't jan brewer and russell pearce designated some sort of a safe house for these children that are being left behind? who's going to pay for that? >> overall in your mind, what is a solution for the border patrol problem? >> i think what what we need to do is we need to focus our tax-paying moneys towards the drug dealer, the rapists, the kidnappers, and while we're targeting those criminals, the criminal element of the undocumented, then let's work on a humane solution to the noncriminal element, the misdemeanor violators. and let's have those misdemeanor violators pay a fine for their misdemeanor and then let's have them pay a total of $2,500, maybe $1,000, $1,500 fine and then maybe another $1,500 just to get them fingerprinted, documented, background check so

that we're not footing the bill on getting them processed. but let's start fingerprinting people. >> okay. president of the arizona hispanic republicans, thanks for the discussion. >> thank you. oil is leaking into the gulf of mexico from that rig explosion. what can crews do to stop the flow and limit the environmental damage? i'm meteorologist bill karins. the nasty storms from saturday have weakened but we'll see isolated severe storms through the southeast, strong storms possible, georgia, south carolina, north carolina, before those storms head off the coast. also some rain up there from new york and boston for much of your sunday morning. but look. this is doing fine. why? it's planted in miracle-gro moisture control potting mix.

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a massive tornado killed ten and injured dozens in mississippi saturday. an estimated is 100 houses in yazoo county alone were severely damaged by the powerful twister, and toppled trees and debris are forcing rescuers to use their atvs to reach the injured citizen. the weather channel estimates as many as 30 tornadoes touched down in the south. we veal more for you at the top of the hour on this. cleanup after that massive oil rig explosion last week in the gulf of mexico has been stalled due to stormy weather. the explosion, which also killed 11 workers, is causing major

environmental concerns. right now, aside from efforts to mop up the oil on the surface of the water, there is also an undersea well to fully cap. joining me now daniel stone sr., report with "newsweek." good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> what are the big concerns for the environment and how do you tackle them? >> it's up in the air at the moment and the reason for that is this oil is seeping out very slowly. they're talking about 1,000 barrels of oil coming out each day. like you said, it's not only in the water and above the surface, some of it is under the seabed, so you have to worry about marine life and also once it gets -- it's a very buoyant liquid. once it gets to the coastlines of louisiana and florida, those are fragile ecosystems and can be hit very, very hard. >> this is a well cap that needs to be covered up more properly, a full smile or something below the surface. what are the challenges to getting this done? >> well, like you said, weather is one of them. seas are very choppy at the moment, which is hindering some of the cleanup effort.

but you need to get a pod essentially down there, it's robotic and caps off that pipeline. the pipeline goes from the surface of the water to the seabed and then from the seabed about 13,000 feet below. so you're dealing with vast distances. they don't know exactly where the crack is. so you have to get a certain number of pods under there and then inject this liquid that they call a kill fluid to prevent any more leaking. >> so how long might this take? it sounds incredibly complicated. >> it depends on the weather. the coast guard has labeled this a very, very serious situation, a very serious spill. they want to get to it immediately. one of -- the good news in this is that it's going to be cleaned up very slowly so the fact that it's been leaking very slowly has allowed british petroleum, which is the company that was leasing the rig that we're talking about, to mobilize many ships and aircraft to really contain the damage in a very methodic way. this wasn't like "exxon valdez"

where it all came out all at once. they're going to be really able to target this and hopefully strategically if the weather cooperates. >> so people who are thinking, all right, this is 50-miles plus offshore so it's never going to reach our shoreline, are they wrong? >> they, dind, are wrong. noaa has said this will affect about 40 miles of coastline, like i said, in louisiana and florida. so this can certainly get there very quickly and can affect those ecosystems and the people who live nearby. >> okay. daniel stone from "newsweek." thank you very much. >> thanks, alex. people in mississippi are reeling from a tornado that suffered a large swath of destruction. and president obama and the memorial for the miners.