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four long and intense hours on the eighth floor at john hopkins university hospital in baltimore have ended with two people killed. a gunman allegationedly shot a doctor before barricading himself inside a room with the police -- with a patient that police believe was a relative. the gunman then killed the relative before taking his own life. the police hasn't said who the shooter was, but there's speculation he was angry because he didn't think his mom was getting good care. clint van zandt is a former criminal profiler. he joins me live via skype. what strikes you, clint? >>. >> well this has every potential of being a tragedy. some reports say the care his mother she received the that he had initially threatened to jump
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out of the window in the presence of a doctor. then he produce ad gun, shot a medical doctor, one of about 1,700 full-time positions at that hospital. wound up barricaded in the room with his relative. police cleared the floor, try to talk with him, and then there came a time, chris, where unbelievably he turned the weapon on his relative, shot and killed the relative, and then committed suicide. realized that now that brings baltimore to 154 murders this year. vast majority by firearm. making it the fifth most dangerous city as far as death by homicide. >> it's a horrible situation and a terrible situation for hostage negotiators, for the teams at the hospital. what would have been under way at this point? what's the standard operationing treat your in a situation like this?
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>> they would have done a number of things. the three words contain, isolate and negotiate. they would have tried to contain the gunman in one location. isolate him from outside contact. they would have cleared the floor he was on, we're told the eighth floor. they would have sealed the elevator and stairs leading to the floor below. they would have attempted negotiating with him. one thing i heard being done is the doctor who was shot is all right, he was going to make it. that's a thing as a negotiator you want to happen. you want to minimize what he had done so you could use that hopefully as a hook to get him out. i kl only speculate. i would much rather investigate. you may speculate he felt whatever injury or condition his relative, perhaps his mother had, was so severe that he made a decision, a horrible decision
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to take her life and then to take his own. >> thank you very much, clint. this is stephanie rollins blank. she's the mayor in baltimore. we're hoping to get the latest information about this standoff that lasted for about four hours. it ended with two people killed. let's listen. >> closer. close closer. >> i was very troubled today to learn of the incident here at john hopkins. john hopkins is a very proud baltimore institution. our largest private employer and the best medical institution on the planet. we must protect protect these assets. a unified incident command was established. all appropriate law enforcement, city agencies and john hopkins officials worked together to
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respond. again, immediately to this incident. again, the importance of john hopkins university, the whole community cannot be overstated. the safety and security of john hopkins residents was paramount through this whole incident. i would like to thank the men and women of the baltimore police department as well as other city agencies for the swift response. i would also like to thank our fire department, office of emergency management, baltimore county s.w.a.t., the state department of emergency management, and i would also like to thank our federal partners. the fbi participated and commented how well we worked with them and how well our team worked together. i would like to thank them as well.
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now let's turn it to the kpligs commissioner. >> i'm going to give you a time line on the events as we know them. and what facts i can give you to this point. at about 11:11 this morning a man identified as warren davis, age 50, was standing outside of room 873 in the nelson building of john hopkins hospital. he was being briefed by a zr, a staff doctor, at john hopkins about the condition of his mother, who is identified as jean davis. mr. davis was receiving some news about the care and the condition of his mother, just outside the doorway to that room
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when he became emotionally distraught and reacted, and was overwhelmed by the news of his mother's condition. during the course of the conversation with the doctor, mr. davis removed a small semiautomatic handgun from his waist, waistband area and fired a single gunshot that struck the doctor in the lowest chest, upper abdomen. the doctor collapsed just outside the doorway of the room. and mr. davis was last seen running into the room, brandishing the handgun in the direction of his mother, who was confined to the bed. at about 11:45 hours we
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established a unified command post to manage the scene. ly tell you that the scene proceeded in according to every protocol and drill established. hospital john hopkins security immediately responded and put their emergency response plan into place and by all evaluation it worked as designed. and worked incredibly efficiently to avoid and reduce any injury or risk to anyway other patients or staff members inside the hospital. followed very quickly by response of men and women of the baltimore city police department an fire department who responded to the call for service. the scene was secured by
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s.w.a.t. team members, by the baltimore city police department, supplemented by s.w.a.t. members for baltimore county who provided additional security in the nelson building of the hospital. at about 1:30 p.m. our s.w.a.t. team was able to determine that inside the room we were able to see that mr. davis was down on the floor, suffering from an apparent gunshot wound, and that his mother was also unresponsive in her bed. the tactical team made entry into the room, and with the assistance of on-scene medical personnel determined that both mr. davis and miss davis were indeed deceased.
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at this point we are treating this case as a murder/suicide, and obviously, the shooting of the doctor preceding this discovery. we've moved from a tactical situation to now a crime seam situation and management that we're in. in terms of emergency equipment and response, we are actively demobilizing the tactical side of this operation and concentrating our efforts now in determining the full extent of mr. davis' background and any other history we can determine associated with the case. i'm going to turn it over now to the fire department for a brief description of their response as well. >> was the mother paralyzed? >> yeah, i can comment -- first of all.
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i don't know. we wouldn't be able to comment past her medical condition and what she was being treated for at the hospital. >> did the officers here shots coming from the room? >> let me have the fire department do their briefing, and then we'll open up for brief questions. >> good afternoon. our role from the fire department's perspective was basically to support the police department with tactical ems, medical con tin -- contingent. we also found the manpower need and to help the organized through the unified command, the police department response and their ability to be able to mitt gatd the circumstances, but also to assist them any way possible to sha we have resources on the scene. so our role was to support the commissioner.
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hopefully we did that. thank you. >> thank you. . i would like to bring up gary stevenson from hopkins to address their response. >> good afternoon. i'm gary stevenson. first of all, i would like to reiterate the thanks for the mayor's office, the city of police departments, the fire department and other tactical units involved. we train for these things at hopkins. i know they train for these things as well. with the tragedy occurring, trz enormously gratifying to see things go as planned. their response was breathtaking. they were here within moments. they were efficient. behaved in an exemplary manner in the face of this horrible situation. i am not at liberty to reveal
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details about our physician who was injured. he remains in the o.r. based on our initial assessment, the wounds do appear to be survivable wounds. i cannot answer any questions regarding the shooter or the shooter's mother. these are due to federal patient privacy laws. >> can you confirm -- >> i am not at liberty to confirm that now. we'll make a full statement with full detail. >> so we're learning a key piece of information about this standoff that lasted for about four hours at john hopkins. that is the wounds suffered by the doctor who found himself in the middle of a murder/suicide situation, a son and his mother, is actually -- the wounds are survivable. that is the best spin on a horrible situation. clint van zandt, we learned he
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came with a gun. it's impossible to know what was on his mind when he entered, before he had the conversation with the doctor in which he got what was described as information that made him emotionally distraught. >> a number of things we didn't find out. did this individual come? this 50-year-old man they identified. did he come carrying the gun for a specific reason, to confront someone? or did he happen to be carrying a gun and became distraught? how do you exclude a gun from a complex where 30,000 people are to include 1,700 doctors, a 1,000 bed hospital. do we put metal detectors at every entrance? every exit? we know there are increased incidents of hospital violence. do we have to treat a hospital like we do a government
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building, like we do an airport? are we going to have to start screening every building? where there's a lot of people going in and out. do we have to screen everybody for a firearm? in a hospital you have people coming in on crutches, with walkers and wheelchairs, a lot of metal that would have to be dealt with. clint van zandt. i think we lost our connection. thank you. we do appreciate that. we're going to be continue to follow this story. there's a lot more ahead here on msnbc, including some new photos released today. the jurors in that horrific case in connecticut of a home invasion that ended in the terrible murder of a woman and her two young daughters. we'll have that coming up. when i had my heart attack, i couldn't believe it.
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horrific new photos today. the photos showed the bedroom where the girls were tied up and left to die, and the rope used to restrain william petit's youngest daughter, 11-year-old michaela. it gives an indication of how difficult the trial has been for the jurors and what a horrible situation. >> yesterday, several of the jurors were crying. the judge had to end the day early because the jurors couldn't keep themselves together. these were gruesome photos. the kids burned clothes. it doesn't get any worse than this. and the bottom line is, there are new questions about how police handled this. when the first 911 call came in, you would think police would rush to the scene and perhaps rush to the house. but they didn't. 30 minutes went by. police were still standing outside, even as the petit family was tortured and later
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killed inside. >> reporter: in this surveillance picture, the final picture of jennifer hawke-petit less than an hour before her death. she was at a local bank withdrawing $15,000 and calmly told the bank teller her entire family was being held hostage at home. she needed the money for ransom. at 9:21 a.m. with jennifer still in the bank, the manager made a chilling call to 911. prosecutors say these two men, steven hayes and -- were terrorizing the family. beating dr. petit with a baseball bat and tying him to
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this pole in the base. his two daughters tied to the beds upstairs. all of them tortured all night. william could hear his family being tortured upstairs. >> i heard the moaning and the thumps, he testified. somehow bleeding from his head, he managed to escape, his feel still bound, petit hopped out of the house and made it to the neighbor's house for help. the suspects raped and strangled jennifer petit and burned the house down. the mother and her two daughters were all killed. >> this has been such an emotional trial. the evidence here so incredibly gruesome that four jurors, even in the first week of this trial, have already been dismissed. one of them said he couldn't follow the evidence because it was so confusing. some of the jurors were sobbing. the petit family was sobbing in court. william petit did himself. just a couple moments ago he did
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walk out of court and thanked everybody for the support. and his sister said a lot of people wonder why we don't cry every day, and they said, please remember, this happened tli three years ago. we have cried the tears. as a parent myself, it's hard to imagine how he puts one foot in front of the other. >> i've heard from so many people who know him. he's beloved in the community. he's a wonderful guy from everything i've heard. >> i've met him. he is a a great guy. >> his wife did everything right. everything they tell you to do. it wasn't enough. >> she went to bank. remember, she has a guy saying my accomplice is with your family. if you get the police involved, i will kill them. she's calm. she did everything right. >> jeff, thank you so much. >> now to washington. it's taken months, but two republicans just joined senate democrats to pass the $30 billion bill to help small
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businesses. in theory it gives them easier access to credit, the idea being that will create jobs and boost the struggling economy. next week the bill is expected to be approved in the house. by the way, no political love lost between house speaker nancy pelosi and the man who who wantr job, minority leader john boehn boehner. >> if they continue to offer the same stimulus spending and more of the same job killing tax hikes that just have not worked. the president wants to talk about new ideas, let's try this one. let's try cutting spending. >> the tax cuts at the high end have not produced any jobs. they've only increased the deficit. we're still paying the price
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that they have contribute odd the deficit all along. i don't think our nation should go into debt perhaps to china in order to underwrite a tax cut for people, 80% of whom are making a million dollars a year. >> meantime a conservative group is spearheading an effort today to repeal and replace pieces of president obama's health care law. while painting a bulls eye on the backs of democrats who voted for it. this is a plan we didn't want and don't need. he volted for it anyway. defeat your congressman. >> revere america, the group paying for that ad you just saw is planning to spend millions before election day, going after democrats who voted for health care reform. and the group has the backing of the former new york governor. nice to see you. >> nice to see you, chris. >> we pieced apart this bill.
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we did in the run up to it. you think the whole thing is bad? specific pieces are bad? >> the whole bill is awful. there are parts of it, as in any bill, that's really with the amendment over 3,000 pages long. there are parts that are good and that should be part of a new law. >> let me ask you about the specifics. it sounds good to extend coverage to 32 million people. >> it depends on how you do it. almost every one of those will be in medicaid, which is a bad program. the states have to pay a huge part of the cost. >> it's good. but you have to pay for it. >> insurers barred from denying coverage. >> i'm all for it. i'm all for it. some of the provisions are good. they should be part of a new law. when you look at the law, piece after piece, it's one of the reasons we're not creating jobs. it's going to increase health care costs.
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it's going to result in tens of millions of people having to change their health care. they don't want to. >> that bill is designed to help create jobs. how does this hurt job creation? >> it raises taxes for one. and two, it imposes penalties and fees on businesses when it first came out, at&t said it would cost a billion dollars. if the company provides benefits to retirees, they're not going to be tacked on that, which wasn't the case before. they canceled the hearings. they are imposing billions of dollars of cost for the counted. if you provide health care that's too good, you'll be fined because it's a cadillac plant plan. if you don't provide it good enough, you'll be fined because it's not good enough. in any event, you pay more for health care. >> it sounds like a lot of this could be worst case scenario. most of the provisions of this
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have not gone into effect. >> that's correct. so we don't really know. >> we do know. once we pass it you find out what's in it. we're finding out time and again horrible consequences of this bill. obama's own administration did an analysis to drive up cost. we saw health insurers proposing increases and fees of up to 9% entirely because of obama care. we know small businesses are going to have to fill out 1099s for every single company they do business with, more than $600 a year. democrats are saying we have to repeal that provision. today congressman taylor from louisiana signed onto repealing obamacare. if we have a congress this november that understands people didn't want this bill, it's not in their interest, we don't need government-run health care, then we're going to repeal obamacare and replace it with real reforms
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the american people want. >> this is going to continue not just to november, but beyond. thank you. developing now. we have live pictures from the white house. the president is set to speak any minute now. he's going to be talking about expanding his educate to innovate intishtive. he wants to improve science, technologies, education, engineering and math. he wants students better prepared to lead into the 21st century economy. wall street is getting back on its feet. but the financial landscape is still full of uncertainty. in times like these, you need an experienced partner to look out for you.
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to spend $700 billion on tax cuts for the wealthy, doesn't it make sense for us to move forward with the tax cuts we all agree on? >> louise is a big reporter for "the ney york times." good to see you. >> good to see you. >> as the numbers are crunched, how much may it contribute to the economy? let's start with middle class tax cuts, which will seems to be some agreement on extending. >> there's consensus for people making under $250,000, that you should extend the bush tax cuts so they do not expire the end of this year. but the debate centers on the top 2% of earns. very few people here, the elite, and as obama was referring to, some republican lawmakers saying you should extend their tax cuts as well. they do contribute to a lot of congre consumer spending. >> i talked with david stockland today. he was head of the office and
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management budget under the reagan administration. he knows what it's like to be in the middle of one of these debates. here's what he said about extending the bush tax cuts. >> i don't think we can afford the bush tax cuts in 2001 and 2003 originally. now two wars later, $800 billion in t.a.r.p. a trillion deficit built in going forward as far as the eye can see, we've reached the end of the rope. we have to pay our bills. for that reason we have to this let these tax policies expire. >> a we question to extend them is if you look back they actually did create jobs, they did stimulate the economy originally. >> the interesting thing is there have been studies done by the office of management and budget that show the tax cuts do not go dollar to dollar in the economy. so though the wealthy spend a lot of money, they don't spend all the money they get backseat in the tax cuts. the tax cuts are expensive. we're talking hundreds of billions of dollars additional
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money that you would be sending out the door in the tax cuts. >> the debate continues. louise story of "the new york times," thanks so much. i want to update you on what was going on in baltimore. there was a four-hour standoff at john hopkins university. there was just a news conference. we got the latest information. what we learned was the man, 50-year-old warren davis on the eighth floor was being briefed about the care an condition of his mother who was a patient there. he was described by officials as emotionally distraught. and then he, then he shot the doctor, described as overwhelmed, he shot the doctor whose injuries are vsurvivable. i don't have an i.d. on the doctor. that's his picture. the man who that had the gun, 50-year-old warren davis, he shot himself and then shot his mother. so this is now being investigated as a
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murder-suicide. and again, the doctor who was taken in for surgery, his wounds said to be survivable. we're going to be continue to follow this story as it develops. up next, my interview with a true american hero. the first living man to receive the nation's highest military honor since vietnam. we'll also hear from his proud parents when msnbc returns. my job is to listen to the needs and frustrations of the shrimpers and fishermen, hotel or restaurant workers who lost their jobs to the spill. i'm iris cross. bp has taken full responsibility for the clean up in the gulf and that includes keeping you informed. our job is to listen and find ways to help. that means working with communities. restoring the jobs, tourist beaches, and businesses impacted by the spill. we've paid over $400 million in claims and set up a $20 billion independently-run claims fund to cover lost income until people impacted
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means to you. >> this is really huge award. but to me, you know, it represents more than just me. s if thr everyone that i have been with. everyone i have served with. everyone that has served with me every time we go outside the wire for all the service members, men and women not only in the army, but also in the marines, in the navy, in the air force really out there fighting for the american people. this encompasses all of us. i'm just the one that's here to receive it, i guess, today. >> and you're very modest about that, but i have to say everything i read about what you did, absolutely remarkable and truly heroic. and a lot of it, not just about that incident, but about what happened in the valley in afghanistan back in 2007 is written about so
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extraordinarily. he spent about a year with you guys. i just want to set it up a little. so you're going down a trail. you come under an ambush by taliban fighters. there's also this machine gunfire. you get hit. fortunately you're wearing body armor. but you lead a couple other guys in and start rescuing other members of your platoon. tell me a little bit about that moment when you came under fire your and your decision to risk your own lives to save the others. >> it wasn't a decision i had to make. it was already going to happen. that is what the training was for. we didn't go to tour unprepared. we went very prepared. and every single person out there that day, this is our chosen profession. we don't have any other side jobs. so saying that i wasn't leading it, staff sergeant gallardo led it to the first guy.
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he stayed there to call awe up because he had the radio. that was going to be the piece that he was going to take care of. i continued on because i didn't have anymore grenades. i already threw all my grenades, and i was already running forward. it just seemed easier. and to kind of put it into perspective, there was a lot of bullets in the air. and a lot of rpgs. but it was that way for everyone on the line. everyone congratulates me on doing such a heroic thing, but in my mind it's not that heroic. anyone would have done the same thing in the position that i was in. that's the kind of professionals that i serve with. >> well, i want to ask you about that. i thought one of the things that was really remarkable about his book was it painted such a picture of what it's like to be at war. this is a very different kind of war that we've had in the past.
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but the unity and the brotherhood of you guys out there on the front lines experience to me was moving. it was inspirational. tell me about your relationship with those guys who you went to war with. >> all of them will forever be my brothers. i have my brother mario. he's back in the states right now. but forever they'll be my brothers. even from the first deployment. i'll see them, maybe once every three years, and they're going to slap me in the face and call my a dirty name, and then we're going to hang out and talk like we never missed each other, not even for a second. it's a brotherhood. it really is. i didn't understand that until more and more time passes. every time i see these guys or hear from these guys, we pucked up where we left off like there was never a two-year break. it's an incredible bond i don't think you'll get anywhere else. >> one of the things in my experience of talking to veterans and active service
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members in both iraq and afghanistan is this isn't political for them when you're under fire. it is about the men that you're serving with and in your case saving their lives. i don't want to ask you to make a political statement. but you did risk your life. and you lost people who loved like brothers over there. so i wonder as you're sitting in relative comfort in italy, what do you think about what you've accomplished there? >> we accomplished, i believe everything we set out to accomplish. the only reason we left there is because our time was done. yeah. that's all i have to say about that. i don't have too many political things to say. >> again, i don't want to p put you in that position, but for somebody who has come under fire
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and seen things that most of us will never have to see, thank god, will never face what you have to face. you say you're trained for that. you're not trained to go to a big fancy ceremony with the president of the united states, with other medal of honor winners. i'm assuming and hoping your family is going to be there. are you just a little bit nervous about all of the hoopla that's going to happen? >> i absolutely am nervous. i don't know how to prepare for this. i don't know really what to do. i have people here trying to help me and guide me and mentor me into this huge role. i'm excited. i'm excited to hang out with all my buddies, to see my family and to meet these other gentlemen who had received this award. it's amazing. not in my wildest dreams did i think i would be in this position? >> his parents are gushing over their skon's accomplishments. they shared that emotion with me
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earlier today. >> mom, can you put into words the pride you're feeling? >> that's difficult. i've always been excited about what my kids do, this piece here, this is hard to find words for. >> steve, tell me about what you knew about what had happened to your son, and had you talked to him about it long before it became part of the public domain with sebastian's book? >> sal doesn't talk too much about battle. he gives us insight as to what may happen with his friends, but never anything about battle. the only reason why he told us, and i don't want to offend rose, but she just after about two weeks, she said you need to tell
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us what happened. you need to tell us. then he said i'll tell you. i'll tell you once, and i don't want you to ask any questions. >> and, rosemary, for you as a mom, and i went through this with my mother when my brother was in vietnam. so i have a sense of the family who has a member serving in war. it must have been hard for you to hear. i know you wanted to hear it, but how difficult was that? >> it was hard to hear. but what was running around in my mind for those weeks previously, that was harder. he was very loving. he told us through tears. i cried on the other end. and it was okay because i heard my son's voice. i heard my son's voice. that made a difference. >> i'm curious how you felt when he told you he wanted to go into
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the military. >> as parents, we were forit. i think it's a very honorable job. i would push others to look at their children and say, you know, you have it, you can do this. so i think steve and i had no problem with him going. to this day where he's at, it's still not a problem for us. >> i have to ask you finally, and i don't know if you had a chance to hear the interview we just did with him, and, wow, what an incredibly smart, poised well spoken and humble young man you have raised. really a credit to obviously you, but to this nation as a whole. but i asked him if he was nervous about getting the medal of honor, and he said he was tremendously nervous and had people is there trying to help him. how are you feeling about the thing? it's going to be a very big deal, as i'm sure you know. >> you know, every parent
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believes their children are destined for something greater. a lot of our children cheaf that. this is one of the time that sal is cheafing everything in the potential that we've seen in him. in that we're proud, but we're very proud of our other children, of katie and mario as well. >> it's a huge honor, as everybody knows. we keep saying it's hard to find words to meet the president, to meet his men. i'm excited to meet the men. it's all a wonderful honor. we just thank you for allowing something like this to happen as a country. to acknowledge stuff like this. >> we thank staff sergeant giunta for his bravery and for his family for sharing with us. [ male announcer ] this is steven, a busy man.
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at this hour, triple-header in the atlantic. three powerful storms, igor, julia, karl. you can see the intensity of the storms on radar. hurricane karl has sparked flooding and power outages in southeast mexico. igor is expected to reach bermuda later this weekend but will likely weaken before making land fall. now the fastest three minutes of news. we go down to the wire with a dumb criminal, space tours and a wardrobe malfunction. ready? hit the clock. we start with the man detroit police dubbed one of the world's dumbest criminals. check out this guy. he stairs in the surveillance camera, we get a clear look at his face before he thinks to put on the darth vader mask and stick up the place. police expect to arrest him very soon. it's i hop versus ihop. they filed suit against the international house of prayer for infringing on the pancake house's nationally recognized acronym.
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the pancake maker claimed the church is causing great and irrepairable injury and confusing the public by diluting the brand name. boeing is getting into the space tourism business. flights could begin as early as 2015. the launch of cape canaveral to the international space station. falling in love can cost you friends. oxford researchers found the people in romantic relationships often end up giving two friends because they're focusing on their partner. the study found people in relationships typically have four people in their inner circle. and an ad featuring a pregnant nun is banned in britain. it is part of the company's ice cream is our relinlon campaign. the uk's advertising watchdog agency says it's offensive to christians. talk about motherly instincts, a cat took in a baby squirrel at her own. the cat's owner says she found the injured squirrel and put it in the box with the kittens. the squirrel adapted to the new surroundings, even nursing from
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the momma cat. the squirrel even purrs like a kitten. the world's smallest and tallest dogs visited new york's central park. the guinness book of world records brought them out to promote the new edition of their book, "giant george." boo-boo, if you can call it standing, stands at foufr inches. four inches. there may nobody crying in baseball. but there is lying, feen you're derek jeter, apparently. last night an umpire ruled the yankee captain was hit by a pitch but it really hit his bat. jeter later said what he was going to do was refuse the first free trip to first but he later scored a run, however, the team eventually lost the game and eventually first place to the tampa bay rays. a shocker at "america's will
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go talent." that 10-year-old opera singer who was the favorite going into last night's final said she is sad for herself but happy for michael. >> hard to know exactly what goes on behind the banker desk. but i promise you i'm always scrupulously appropriate. not the case with this news anchor. looks like he has a suit on until you see him turn -- yes. he's wearing boxer shorts. go figure. and that brings us down to the wire. and that's also our show for this thursday. i'm chris jansing. "the dylan rat begigan show" is next. bankers are known to be a little bit in love with themselves. are we going up? we can get the next one.
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this fine country. the ranks of the working poor climbing to the highest we've seen in decades. one in seven people in america now living below the poverty line. real americans, really hurting. do our politicians get it? do they have a plan to fix it? are they willing to admit the real problems and deal with them? we know probably not. a few of them are and one is vermont's senator bernie sanders. he joins us in just a minute here. plus, another elephant in the room. republican heavyweight sarah palin and karl rove squaring off against the tea party's role in the gop. is the tea party secretly trying to take down the gop? from inside the -- i don't know. also, you heard about the greatest generation, all the books and the war, what about the greediest generation? we'll look at how the babyboomers refusal to invest in any aspect of america's future has us in the current mess and those of my generation and younger paying for it. what we can do about it. the show starts right now.

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