not. >> what did you learn? >> i learned that if i go to arianna's, i'll have a headache the next day. >> it happens. and we get bill clinton tomorrow. i'm excited about that. >> "morning joe," next is daily run down with chuck and savannah. summers is out. the president gets a chance to remake his economic team. will he go to wall street for his pick? war stories. woodward dishes vintage palace intrigue on the internal anxiety over the afghanistan war. plus -- >> she quit working for us and worked only for herself. what kind of political admaker turns an opponents head into a giant, floating blimp? you will meet the man.

good morning, everyone. i'm savannah guthrie. >> i'm chuck todd. by the way, yesterday was the last day of summer, so why not have reports about the last day of summers. we're about 40 plus days to election day. we're going to begin with another palace intrigue story. that's the bob woodward book. the news is already started to leak out thanks to the "new york times" finding the book in it. in it, some of the battles within the obama administration over the war. vick, it looks like woodward is creating characterable moments about things that have leaked out. >> that's a good way to put it. bob woodward has done it again, you guys. appare apparently, a lot of west wing china got broken.

you remember those three-hour strategy sessions in the basement of the west wing last fall. apparently now, it was an administration at odds with it. at one point, the president is characterized, boiling over with frustration at the military. he felt they were trying to box him in so that 40,000 more troops that had been requested by mcchrystal and backed up by general petraeus, he felt he needed an exit strategy. at one point, apparently telling lindsey graham about the book that i cannot afford to lose the entire democratic party. richard holbrooke reportedly saying that the strategies the president came up with cannot work and in sort of a retorque, joe biden said of holbrooke, this is the most egotistcal

bastard. general james canfield, general petraeus called axelrod a spin doctor. blair against rahm emanuel. those two sparring with each other. blair was out the door after that. there are reports that say hamid karzai is a manic-depressive and petraeus is quoted, this is the kind of war in afghanistan, the fight we're in if for the rest of our lives and probably our kids' lives -- strategic and decisive, they say analytical, relentless in preparation and focus. >> mike viqueira on the north lawn this morning. this feels it adds color to a narrative largely known. they're embracing this narrative and deciding this portrays the

president in a light -- >> mind trick. nothing to see here. these are not the policy differences you're looking for. one thing about the biden anecdote, the next line says, yes, biden said that during the transition, but he might be the best man for the job. but it is, you know, you didn't need a lot of white house deep background source to tell you holbrooke's not the most popular guy inside the administration some days. >> the president's economic team is about to look very different. lawrence summers says he is stepping down and year's end. he is the third member to allowance their resignation since june. john harwood joins us now. we have reported this is something in the works for months, so not a surprise inside the west wing but perhaps the timing of the announcement. who might the president pick to

replace larry summers? >> boy, that's a mystery, savannah. they have thought about this for some time. when i've run various names in the rumor mill by senior white house officials like mulkey, the former ser ox executive, we'll see what happens there. this is the timing of which was influenced by the president's remarks at the town hall the other day when i asked about whether geithner would be staying. i'm told that summers didn't want the speculation to stay in there. he had planned to do this for some time. i don't think it represents a change in policy. i think the administration remains comfortable with the track we're on and larry summers remains in tune with president obama, but it does give them a chance to refresh, bring in new blood and address the criticism

they've faced about not having practical business experience. >> thanks for latest on that. you know, there's three factors they have to deal with in naming this person. they've got to have some washington skill and not be politically nieve. has to not be hated by labor unions. and of course, they'd love to find somebody in the business community and of course, finding a person that can somehow balance all three for a democratic administration, that's very, very difficult. so, yes, a lot of people would like to see an ex-ceo in there. >> you don't want to spend the first six months trying to figure out how to turn the lights on. >> or which group you have to apologize to. in a senate bill to repeal don't ask don't tell went down in defeat. kelly o'donnell, this means

don't ask don't tell, law of the land for years? >> unlikely. because it is still a part of the defense funding bill. repealing it is. it would require 60 votes to take that out. this is the setback that has tons of political overtones. what happened is democrats in the senate attached this repeal to the funding bill that always passes for years and years and years, it always passes. they also added on an immigration bill. you had all of the republicans voting no on a proceed move. the division is not just about policy. it's about politics. susan collins of maine says it's time for the change, but she wouldn't go for it because she was bothered by how this was

done. there's real frustration that harry reid decided to put it through now and to eliminate the chance for republicans to make any changes. so here is how susan collins made her argument. >> i think it's the right thing to do. i think it's only fair. but i cannot vote to proceed to this bill under a situation that is going to shut down the debate and preclude republican amendments. >> and a real hitch for republicans is something they were able to point to and that is the pentagon is right now conducting a survey where they're talking to members of the military to see how a change in the policy, repealing the man, would affect moral, how would it play out in the day-to-day lives of men and women in uniform. that's due in december. a lot of republicans said, don't vote until you get the reports.

hear from them first. just a setback for now. >> kelly o'donnell, thanks. in alaska, republican senator lisa murkowski is defending her choice to run as a write-in for senate after voters there rejected her for joe miller. >> i think that what we have is a basically, a move to embrace her from the liberal left more so than from the conservative right. >> lee cowan is joining us live. it's a name that's well-known in alaska. >> reporter: it is. she's defending this, continuing with this campaign even though she knows it is an uphill battle. nobody has done it since strom

thurmond in the '50s. she still has a chance here. she's got a lot of money and she does, like you said, have that name. tough to spell, but a lot of people recognize, which is a start. as for her opponent, joe miller, he's not worried about this. he campaigned successfully getting backed by the tea party express as well as endorsed by sarah palin. he campaigned on things like trying to phase out essential security. face out medicare. even said that unemployment insurance was unconstitutional. those are the kinds of views that murkowski says are extreme. now, she wants a second chance to try to do it. >> very early. 5:00 a.m. in anchorage, alaska. thanks for that early morning duty for us. still ahead, my interview with lisa murkowski. is her write-in campaign

ignoring the wishes of voters in her own party? plus, christine o'donnell in delaware says she's taking sarah palin's advice. no more national interviews. but that's not stopping her opponent from talking to us. up next, the interview with chris coons. plus -- >> a wolf in sheep's clothing. >> the demon sheep. by far, the most unforgettable ad of the 2010 season. actually rk never appeared on television. coming up, the man behind some of the most viral political ads this decade. >> we play it all the time. but first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. he's headed to new york for the united nations general assembly. >> gets to do a little fund raising. >> this is the daily rundown only on msnbc. [ female announcer ] sometimes you need tomorrow

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there's a stark contrast between my opponent and me. he's called harry reid's pet. >> i've heard that. >> that's harry reid's word. you kind of have to wonder what strange conversations went on to lead to that. >> well, delaware republican nominee, christine o'donnell, takes a shot at her opponent in what she says was her last interview with the quote, national media. she says she's only talk to local reporters from now on. >> but her opponent is still talking to the national press, specifically us. thanks for being with us. my first question is a simple one. setting aside your policy

differences, do you believe that christine o'donnell is unfit or qualified to be a u.s. senator? >> well, that's a decision that delaware's voters are going to have to make on november 2nd. i think i bring to the task the experience, the background, the values, the commitment to delaware that our voters are looking for and i do think folks should look hard at christine o'donnell current statements, her experience, qualifications. but ultimately, this is a decision the voters are going to have to make november 2nd. >> a lot has been made of miss o'donnell's comments she made. there is a college paper you wrote that has been making the rounds in which you write as follows, my friends now joke that -- africa to them seems a kad liddic converter that takes in clean shaven americans and

brings them back bearded marxists. explain. >> just from the sentence you read, it's clearly a joke. i am a clean shaven capitalist. that was a tongue and cheek term who my former roommates had taken to using as a joking name for me. i was the commencement speaker and that profile was meant to give a brief explanation about my transformation from a republican to a democrat. >> obviously, a lot of these past statements by christine o'donnell have been floating around the internet. do you think there's any aspect to the attacks on her that strike you as unfair or out of balance and what specific would that be? >> to me, what matters are the issues that delaware's families are facing and who's got a better plan to get folks back to work to get the economy back on

track, to tackle l spending and deal with the deficit. i think that there are some things that christine o'donnell has said as a candidate. she's run now three times for the u.s. senate in the last five years. her offensive statement about homosexuality being a personality disorder. there's a lot of things that she said recently that -- ought to take seriously and look at as they make the decision who ought to be the next senator representing our state. >> if you are elected to the senate, you're going to be dealing with a couple of big issues. the first one, tax cuts. are you for any extension for folks making over $250,000? >> i think our first priority is to reduce the tax burden on the middle class, small business.

not just in innovation of the united states, but manufacturing of the united states. i'm going to work hard to pass a tax credit, make it permanent. we have to pay for that. the tax cuts passed a decade ago weren't paid for, so if we're going to extend the bush tax cuts further, we've got to target them, make them sustainable and talk about the impact on our deficit. i would not support it. >> even if it's one year? >> when i get there, i'm going to have to make a judgment about the best way to move forward. if there's a package, i think what's sad is that right now, the other party is holding middle class tax cuts hostage as they try to make sure they're able to secure further tax relief for the wealthiest americans. we've got a war to pay for. a deficit to address and i think we need to make responsible,

fiscal choices going forward. >> you know your opponents have a lot of fun with senator harry reid, saying you're one of his favorites and calling you his pet. can you give an example where you differ from the administration or the senate leader on policy? >> i'm no one's pet and i intend to be an independent voice in the united states senate. that was a very unfortunate choice. it was a wrong idea for delaware and the united states. i disagree with how the banking bouts were handles. i think the program was passed in a hurry and hasn't been administered properly. there's two examples that i would disagree. >> all right. chris coons, good to have you on. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. we do hope to hear from his opponent.

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well, senator lisa murkowski is not ready to be just another republican on the 2010 casualty list. over the next six weeks, she's going to try one of the toughest things in electoral politics. a write-in bid for the united states senate. i spoke with her moments ago and asked her to respond to republicans who say she's a sore loser. >> i would just remind my colleagues back there in washington that what i'm doing is really all about alaska. 85% of the people, the electorates did not participate in selecting the two nominees going forward. the democrat, scott mcadams, nice guy, but really unelectable.

joe miller represents some views that here in alaska, most people feel are outside mainstream. i have been asked by thousands of alaskans to step up, to stay in, to stand up for alaska and that's where i am. >> you've described joe miller multiple times. just now, out of the mainstream. you've called him, that he's an extremist. that his views are extreme. which views are extreme? >> well, i do think that some of his views are extreme and unfortunately, i think that they would negatively impact the most vulnerable people in alaska. >> specifics. >> some specifics are his approach to dealing with social security. medicare. what i'm hearing from seniors is they feel threatened by his approach. alaska natives. very large constituencies are very concerned about the

approach that joe miller has to how we build out the future of alaska. we've got communities in our state lacking basic infrastructure such as water and suer and joe's response to this is well, if it's not one of the powers enumerated in the constitution, no federal earmarks, this is not something we support. some of these views, alaskans are saying, these are not initiatives that will help us and particularly, the most vulnerable. kids, seniors. alaska natives. >> i've noticed on your website, the word republican doesn't seem to be anywhere. do you still consider yourself a republican and if you win, do you plan on kcaucusing again wih senate republicans? >> i am a republican. have always been a republican. have no intention of leaving the republican. when i win in november, i will

be back with the republican conference. i am a write-in candidate and so, under alaska law, i'm not flying under any different flag. but i would remind folks that what i'm really doing, i'm putting alaska before my party. and i think that's been a difficult concept for many to understand and appreciate. it kind of rattles the core what happens back in washington, d.c. >> i got to ask you about your first tv ad, which misspelled your name on the website. if a voter in alaska misspells your name, does that vote count? >> two things. first of all, it was not our first tv ad. it was an ad put together by volunteers on the website. and in fact, in fact, if my name is misspelled, but it's clear what the intent of the voter is, if for instance, the o is

eliminated, it will be counted. what people need to know is you've got to fill in the oval and write in the name. so, we're embarking on a pretty ambitious educate campaign. we think alaskans can handle that. we're pretty confident that we can make this happen. >> senator murkowski, thanks for getting up early and joining us. >> thank you. >> oh, chuck, pointing out the spelly error. >> coming up, the republican's path to a senate takeover winds through the wild west. up next, david gregory joins us from seattle with a look at the senate races in california and washington. and should this dad be vilified or vindicated for taking on his daughter's schoolbus bullies? >> i'd say yes. but first, today's trivia question --

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morning about the growing threat of domestic terrorists. she is expected to say that home grown suspects are complicated efforts to detect terror plots. other stories making headlines. bob woodward is out with a new book details the bitter white house strife over the war in afghanistan. "the new york times" obtained a copy of this book. in bell, california, the town that's come to symbolize government corruption, eight officials are heading to court today, arrested on charges of fleecing taxpayers. in one instance, the city manager of the low income suburb was earning over $800,000 a year. and there may be good news for the trapped chilen miners. official rs being cautiously optimistic, still sticking to

november as the target date to pull the miners out. now to the story in florida. a fed up father in orlando took matters into his own hands and ended up behind bars. >> carey sanders has this story. any father of young children can empathize with what turned out to be a little of an overreaction. >> he admits he made a mistake. this is the video of him on the bus in seminole county, florida. he got on the schoolbus and started screaming at some of the children on the bus. swearing at them, even threatening to kill them because they were bullying his 13-year-old daughter. his 13-year-old daughter has cerebral palsy and has been

picked on by the kids. at a news conference, he apologized. his wife was with him. they say they had contacted the school, but perhaps not the proper way and the school board said they never received the proper notification to intervene at the moment they did, but it raises the question about these problems parents face about their kids getting bullied. the national center for education statistics estimated 25% of students will be bullied on a weekly or a daily bases. which is a tremendous number. pacer.org, which handles specifically looking at bullying issues, estimates 160,000 kids a day stay home from school fearing they're going to be bullied. the reason kids bully according to the experts is that they're looking for power and some sort of peer aacceptance.

a disabled child is more likely to be targeted, in fact, they estimate 85% of disabled kids are targeted because they don't have friends around them to support them, so the bullies have that peer group with them encouraging them to do this. of course, we saw this father lose it. he now faces some misdemeanor charges, but it raises the question of what would you do. >> everybody can relate to the motivation to protect his child. live in miami. thank you. back to politics now. if republicans want to take the senate, the west will need to be won. california and washington, usually dependable blue states are now in the toss-up column. barbara boxer, carly fiorina and washington state -- david gregory is live in seattle this morning. the pacific fire wall in essence

as far as democrats are concerned. we found out yesterday that michelle obama not doing a lot of campaign travel, but two of her stops are going to be california and washington state. how bad is it for democrats in that blue state? >> it's a real concern. start with california. we've talked about this before where you've got a lack of enthusiasm and barbara boxer in real trouble. you can go county by county with some republican sources in california who look at the unemployment rate from north to south and talk about areas of opportunity for a republican candidate in a year where the view is so sour toward washington and even toward an incumbent like boxer who's done a lot for the state, but is seen as a more polarizing figure than say dianne feinstein. the enthusiasm gap is important and we see that in washington state as well where murray's campaign is counting on michelle

obama coming here and getting voters out. that seems to be a key thread between the two, which is how to get those voters out. >> you know, david, one other question i had particularly in washington state and that is the fact that the economy there actually, when you talk to some democrats here, one of the reasons they think they can hold washington is the economy is better there than the rest of the country. is that what you're finding talking to people in seattle? >> no question about that. not only is the economy better, you've got a tighter race and actually, murray has shown improvement here in the last week or so. she's also got a good record here. you don't have some of the head wind against the democrats here in terms of the antiestablishment view. i did an event here last night. i had people saying, what do you

know being on the inside in washington. i said, not a lot. the farther you get from washington, i'm not trying to sound like a politician, the clearer washington dysfunction becomes and question after question last night was about why it is do politicians realize how much their credibility is suffering. i spoke to a business man here yesterday who says he knows rossy, good, strong candidate. not really part of the tea party movement, but does he have the chops to sweep out a senator who's been able to deliver for the state. that's one of the issues out here. >> we have to ask you, i'm sure you noticed the shake-up in the economic team at the white house. larry summers, out. obviously, a chance for the president thinking. what do you think he'll do as far as a replacement is concerned? >> well, i think he's got to look at somebody from the business community, which i'm sure they'll do. if they can bring in a ceo or

somedy wbo was a business leader, i think that's concentration. i met with some ceos recently, one pretty supportive of the white house. surveyed the room and said the white house has lost everybody in this room. that's got to change when you're relying upon the private sector to turn things around. i think the president has made some of these moves prior to a bad result in november. you'll look for them to take obvious steps to show they want to turn things around. he seems to be doing that in anticipation of that trying to get a new team in place. >> david gregory in the other washington. come back here, we need you back here. we'll see you later in the week. >> thanks, david. which republican member of the house and current senate candidate works one weekend every month in the pentagon's war room? >> the answer is mark kirk and we know that some of the

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when a home video can go viral in seconds and tv watchers flip through hundreds of channels in a minute, what makes a good political ad? for a guy in the business, it means getting a little whacky sometimes. >> then it seemed the power of the -- just went to his head. got the people. >> here now, creator or that ad and some memorable ones this year. we asked you on because we found out when we were ranking our ads, you had something like three of the top four. and what was -- the first question i want to ask you, i remember when i first met you probably 10, 15 years ago. you were doing these ads an a lot of washington said, oh,

they're too whacky, they're too weird. now, you're in demand. what's changed? >> oh, i don't know, chuck. i think advertising is just good advertising. the most important thing is our shop is will somebody see and remember the ad. it's that simple. maybe the world of political advertising has become wilder and we have to do a little more to stand out, but i think if our ads are the ones you remember and talk about the next day, i'm a happy camper. >> on that roy barnes ad, this was in 2002. tell us where it appeared. it never appeared on television, and yet, it took off in georgia. >> it's sort of the beginning of the precursor to the internet. it was dial-up speed. that was a nine or ten-minute film. so, in those days, you would

make vhs copies and mail them to people. well, we did that, but we decided to try to it on this thing called the internet. it really took off. it shut down the internet in georgia for a while, as i recall, which only got it more attention and more attention. roy barnes gave it press release, gave a press conference saying he was defending being called a rat. what does that do in makes them want to see it. >> your new ad, doing a rip on reagan's ad. >> our government is now taking over the choices we once made in life. there's morning in america. under the leadership of president obama, our country is fading and weaker and worse off. his policies were a grand experiment. policies that failed.

>> so, that's kind of a serious ad, but you're also known and we've got to play this one, for this barbara boxer ad. >> becoming more and more bitterly partisan while she became less and less effective. soon, her self-image grew so that it overwhelmed the capitol and drifted west. >> all right, fred, you can't tell me that you don't get some pushback from some of these candidates saying you've gone too far. this is off the wall. >> i would say every day i hear that from somebody. but usually, they work, and so after that, the candidates are much happier and hire us again. >> what is it that you would tell -- i mean, in this day and

age, obviously, ral video is t. is that your sense that you're making tv ads and you want to go viral. who cares whether you're able to put them up for 2,000 points a week. >> i will still take the 2,000 points a week. i don't think your jobs are in jeopardy any time soon. broadcast tv are the most impactful mediums. but what we try to do is do something that cuts through the clutter on television and it just happens that those same things become popular on tv. i'm sure you're going to get to, i have to thank both of you while i have an opportunity because i think you gave the real life to demon sheep. >> speaking of demon sheep, since you brought it up. >> quick clip. >> we never miss an opportity to play it. >> is he what he tells us or is he what he becomes over the

years fcino, fiscal conservative only a wolf in sheep's clothing. >> the one criticism i heard about it is it was three minutes until the punchline. were you going, no, no, no, you need all this set up? >> you only heard one criticism. >> all right, there's more than that. >> yeah. >> you know, to me, the point is made throughout. yes, it takes a while to get the red eyes and nose and features and in that time period there was nothing else out there. you know, a minute ago you saw morning in america and the blimp film. those were two different times in the political cycle, as you certainly know. the blimp film, there was nothing to compete with and you can be big and broad and bassy.

right now morning in america works because everything is so loud and crazy in the political advertising world right now and this is more of a whisper. demon sheep was at a time when you could be big and bold and brassy because nothing else was happening and carly fiorina is a spectacular candidate and marketer by trade and she knows that things like this work. >> well, fred davis, we, obviously, admire your craft. not coming down on either side of the politics of it, but you're good at what you do and you, obviously, didn't spend much money on that sheep outfit because it looks like you got it at walmart or something. was not a hot budget enterprise, what what we can tell. >> it was not a high-budget costume. >> fred davis bringing cretivity back. >> thanks to both of you, i appreciate it. coming up, the hoff gets the boot. >> was it the outfit? oh, my gosh, knightrider music.

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