tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC September 29, 2010 1:00pm-2:00pm EDT
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tim kaine, and chris van hallen. who is the most popular politician? you got it. former president clinton. and then a suspected terror attack. we will have the latest news with our terror analysts. and education nation. today, teacher tenure. a special guest, the man at the front of the movement. and he may be running for the mayor of wasilla, alaska. >> do you think the pakistani government is protecting al qaeda within its borders? >> like i said, i don't watch a whole lot of tv.
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i am not brushed up on that. >> you can't make it up. good day. i am andrea mitchell live in washington. 34 days now until the mid terms and the new nbc news wall street journal poll shows there are gains for democrats but the party still faces a wide enthusiasm gap, due in large part to the tea party. democrats have cut the republicans' lead from nine points last month to three points inside the margin of error. when it comes to enthusiasm, democrats trail republicans by ten points. tea party supporters are making up one-third of likely voters. you have your work cut out for you, and you know that. >> yes, i do. >> the enthusiasm gap is a big deal. only half of the democrats are interested, and there is an age gap. voters interested, 35% of the
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voters, age 18 to 34. and it's going to take more than a visit to madison, wisconsin. >> we feel like we have been turning around the generic ballot. a month ago between the democrats was nine points and now it's within three, and that's good movement. we have to close the enthusiasm gap. the president will do a series of events like he did in madison last night. the vice president as well. in my travels -- i am on the road usually five days a week, and i see in my travels the energy picking up as people are now aware the primary is over and we have a clear sense of who the candidates are and what the party strategies are and we think we could make the choice between republicans and democrats clear. >> the point was the university of wisconsin, there could not be a greater liberal strong hold
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than mad sison, wisconsin. >> the biggest mistake we could make is to let disappointment and frustration lead to apathy and indifference. you can't lose heart! >> that contrast also with the president's complaint to "rolling stone" basically telling people that you have to get over yourself, you can't have everything you want and change is hard. the message and the message joe biden delivered, telling people to stop whining, that's not a friendly sell to the base. how is that revib rating? >> it's tough love. i was doing an event in delaware yesterday when the president was in madison, and we led into his speech. i was in a room with people very charged up, democrats, and they did not view that as a negative criticism. they viewed it as an encouragement.
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he said the other side is banking on you not to show up, and you can prove them wrong if we do what we did in 2008. we have work to do. people were asking me, what if the rally in madison is a huge flop because nobody comes? i told them i did not think you would see that. the movement is in the right direction. you want to catch election day if you are in a upswing. >> what can you do to bottle bill clinton and send him to as many places that you can? bill clinton, the most popular figure in america. part of that may be that he responsibility have responsible for doing anything except good works, but 55% having positive feelings towards him, and sarah palin, 30%, and nancy pelosi, 22%. and what about bill clinton? how much can you use him?
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>> president clinton has been an enormous ally for us and asset. two weekends back he was coming in the next day in pennsylvania, and colorado, and people remember that he was a president that came in when the economy was tough, and by the end of his eight years the economy was going well. remember, he and president reagan both in their first mid terms had approval ratings that were sim to where president obama's are right now, but president clinton did so many things to get that economy that was challenged climbing again, and i know president obama looks at his job and feels like it's basically the feel job, take an anemic economy and have it grow stronger, and deal with the deficits over the course of his presidency. there is much to emlate. the good news is, we had a
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wake-up call earlier in the year. none of the candidates have been running complacently. they have been running scared. for as much concerns people have about the democrats, look at the republican approval rating in the polls. this is not a popular republican party right now. >> some may argue the wake-up call was last january with scott brown and the democrats and the white house did not respond to the wake-up call. months and months were wasted and lost with nobody immobilizing. let's go back to the "rolling stone" article. there may be complaints about us not having gotten certain things done, not fast enough making certain legislative compromises, but if people want to take their ball and go home that tells me folks were not serious in the first place. he is blaming his own supporters. how will that inspire them to come out and vote? >> i am seeing the inspiration out on the trail.
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it's tough love. he is saying we are in this for the long hall. he did not say it would be easy. as far as getting elected, he said that may be the easiest part of it, we have heavy lifting and tough stuff to do. and since that brown win, people are working hard to the races and making their case to the constituents. i am used to tough jobs and the president is used to tough jobs. we feel things are moving our way and we have to put our shoulder to it and make that happen. >> thank you, governor. great to see you. on the frontlines of all this, is the campaign committee president, and he joins us now. you will be meeting with the president tomorrow. this will be the kickoff as you head out from congress to face your constituents. what is the strategy? what do you think of the strategy of tough love as tim kaine described it with the
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president telling his base to "rolling stone," get over it and stop whining? >> what the president is doing is saying listen, folks, we are at half-time here. we came into office. the economy was falling through the floor. we managed to stabilize the economy. we have a fragile recovery going. this is no time to go back to the policies that created the mess to begin with. and so you know, half-time is no time to give up. you need to keep on pushing. i think that's the message the president is sending and that's right. what people are doing is looking and seeing what the republicans say they will do, and they do not want to go back to the policies. they were not good for the country or middle class families or jobs. let's continue the progress we have made understanding that we have a long way to go. >> one of the things, though, that the nbc news "wall street journal" poll tells us is that voters want change. 76% say they want to reduce
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special interest influence, and it's not clear what that means, but 70% want to elect political outsiders, and that's not good for you and the democratic party. 54% say the tea party brings in more fiscal conservatives and 54% want to repeal health care reform. a majority want to repeal the one signature initiative that the president and you and congress spent more time on than anything else. >> the fact is the democrats are the party of change and reform. >> the voters are not getting that. how do you change their attitude towards you? >> when they look at the fact that the republicans want to repeal a piece of legislation that is supposed to reign in the powers on wall street and make sure the folks on main street are not held hostage on their decisions, they don't want to go back to where the republicans want to be. when you take the pieces of health care reform like the once that just went into effect, they
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are very popular with the american people. for example, people do not want their kids to be not denied health insurance because of asthma or diabetes or other preexisting conditions. these are things part of the conversation and it's our republican colleagues that are offering the same old same old. if you want to go backwards and to the days that got us into this mess, vote for those guys. the president's message is look, we know we have not made all the progress we want, but don't give up at half-time, keep moving. >> how do you explain to the voters not having a vote on the bush tax cuts before the election? >> well, as you know, the republican leader in the senate, mitch mcconnell, has made it absolutely clear, crystal clear, that he will hold middle class tax relief, relief for 98% of the american people, hostage until the folks at the very top, the top 2%, i get a break, even though that means $700 billion
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to the deficit. the republicans in the senate held up the small business bill, the one that just passed for months and months and months. so what we have said is, look, we will take this argument about middle class tax relief to the american people, and we will ask them, do you really want to have a position where we blow a big hole in the deficit, and your children and grandchildren have to pay the tab and the folks at the very top can get a tax break and holding everybody else hostage. i don't think people want that, but we are more than happy to argue that on the campaign trail, and come back and get the job done and make sure that we get tax relief for 98% of the american people without blowing a big hole in the deficit. >> congressman, i wanted to play a very unusual comment the president made. he was asked about his christian faith in wisconsin. this is his response. he did not seem really to expect the question, as you might understand, and this was the way
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he answered it. >> i am a christian by choice. my family didn't -- frankly, they weren't folks who went to church every week. so i came to my christian faith later in life, and it was because the precepts of jesus christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life i want to lead, being my brother's and sister's keeper, and treating others as they would treat me. >> how do you think that affects people? how do you think voters respond to the president and to all of this inaccurate stuff that his opponents have been pushing against him about who he is and trying to define him as something that he is not?
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>> well, i am glad you asked that. i think that gave the president an opportunity to talk about his faith and at the same time trying to disspell the really outrageous claims that are out there about the president, outrageous not with respect to, you know, saying the president may be somebody from one faith or another, but outrageous in the fact that they are trying to deliberately mislead the american people, where everybody knows the facts are clear here. this is unfortunately part of what we see with elements of the tea party movement, which are way out there on the right, and trying to distort and twist reality. i think that will be catching up with the republicans in many ways, because in most of the swing districts, have you got moderate voters, and centrist voters, when they see the kind of things the folks want to do on the far right and the tea
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party want to do, whether it's distorting the religion of the president, or apolish the department of education, they don't want to go there. >> according to the poll, a majority of people like the tea party. the tea party is very popular right now with americans. >> i think, andrea, when you ask people, and this is also in your poll, when you ask people whether they think it would be a good idea for the tea party to have a lot more influence in decisions in congress, that did not get -- it had a very strong disapproval component to that as well. i think while people like the fact that things are being shaken up, they don't want to go off to the right and they also recognize that the washington republicans are only offering more of the same. i think that's going to be the message going into this election, as we said before, is listen, this is not a time in this country with the fragile recovery to go way off to one
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extreme or another. let's continue with the progress that we have made. let's not go back, let's go forward. but let's not go way off on the right track somewhere. >> that's the message, i know, the democrats will be talking to the president about when they have their big kickoff meeting tomorrow at the white house. thank you very much. europe on high alert in response to intelligence that pakistani terrorists could have been planning simultaneous strikes. and then our series of education continues with education nation. we will have new york city public schools chancellor. send me your thoughts on twitter@mitchell downtown reports.
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when making personnel decisions. that's exactly unfortunately what happens in our school systems across the country. it's wrong and must stop. in new york city, i promise you it will stop. >> that was new york city mayor, mike bloomberg, of course on monday, announcing the city's new program to try and reform and revamp tenure. joe klein is the chancellor of the new york public schools and is the man behind this. joel, how are you going to make it happen? >> by doing serious ae valuations of the teachers. for far too long the teachers moved through the system year from year, and nobody looked to see if they were doing the job and getting results for kids and moving forward. we will transform teaching into a true profession, where excellence in rewarded and supported, and those not performing, there will be consequences. >> we had a dramatic moment with
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michelle rhee. >> you can't say well the problem with charter schools they serve only some of the kids, when you are advocating for caps on the charter schools. you cannot say we want more resources to go to kids when joe klein is spending $100 million a year for teachers who are not teaching. explain to me how that is good for children? >> she certainly laid it out there. joel, how are you going to get around the union rules and stop paying teachers who are not performing? >> this is ridiculous. nobody watching thinks it's a good idea to pay over $100 billion in the middle of budget cuts for teachers who do not have a job teaching in the system. i asked the union to join with us. we have thousands of vacancies
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in our system. let's give teachers a reasonable period of time and then let's give them the job or let them go so we can take the money and pay for a teacher who our kids in the city need them now. we cannot have job protection rules that undermined what is best for our children. when nbc and education nation, what they have done is to shine the spotlight on the crisis in public education. it's a crisis and we need to address it. we will not address it if we do the same old same old job protections. we will seek legislative reforms on this, but we have to get real about it, andrea, because we cannot continue to have the u.s. number 25 or 30 in the world in education. >> exactly. >> not a winning strategy. >> well, this is the young woman that galvanized many of us. you saw this the other day with brian williams. this is the young teacher from the bronx. let's watch. >> i know that in the south bronx my kids who don't speak
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english need an extra vocabulary blanc or phonics block, and i need extra time before the test to do extra test prepare but we have a union contract that says the school day is from 8:30 to 3:30. that's what is attractive about charter schools, because if they need an extra hour, they bring in the kids for an extra hour. >> tell me, joel, you will be able to get to a situation where this young woman, this passionate young teacher, the future of our kids can go in on a saturday if she wants to go in on saturday. >> we need to get there. god bless that young woman. if all of us came together with the view she is talking about, so that we said, we have got to do what is right, go the extra mile for our children, we can turn this around, and it's great teachers like that that are giving a different voice to what teaching is all about.
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they hunger for the opportunity to be professionals and not punch a block. they come in and look at the wrist watch and want to go home at 3:00. our kids are not ready to have them go home at 3:00. they need extra work and hours. a friend of mine worked in the system and she gave me a call and said after three weeks when she was here, her union rep called her and said i understand you are assigning home run, and she said yes, and he said in this school we don't do homework because we don't get paid to grade it. that's an example of what we need to change so we are all in this together. we have to create an environment where our teachers and administrators and all of us go the extra mile. this is america's future, and the american dream depends on educating all of our kids that are to a different level. we have to get there and get there very quickly. >> nobody could say it better.
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joel klein, thank you. and as the steve cappa said last night, there was a board meeting that started the whole conversation going. thank you and we'll keep going and keep it up. >> thank you, andrea. log on to our website, educationnation.com. we'll be right back pn. brian pairs individuals up with existing small businesses, giving the vacationers a two to three crash course to test drive a different career. for more, watch "your business," on sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. you grandma. grandma just makes me happy. ♪ to know, know, know you grandma is the bestest. the total package.
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the bipartisan housettics committee has a tradition not to get involved in party politics, but not this year. all five members have slammed the democrats. politico executive editor joins us. maybe it's no surprise, jim, that the ethics committee would fall apart under the pressure of this kind of political season. >> it's only bipartisan in its
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secretive nature. it's the most obscure committee. >> it's evenly divided, five and five. >> yeah, the chair woman clearly controls the decisions. and the republicans are saying we want to have the trials done in public before the election. they know that's not going to happen and they know it from the private deliberations on the committee that it's not going to happen. they are making the accusation that it's political, that democrats want to push it off past the election. i assume democrats do want to push it off until past the election, and rcharlie rangel would like it and waters would like it. so i think that it's probably a good pr stunt and that we are here talking about it and other people are writing about it. i don't think it will have the affect of having the trials beforehand, because congress is going to take off and go campaign. >> maxine waters and charlie
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rangel, barring some america kul, they will both be re-elected easily in their districts? >> yes, both are heavy favorites to win their election, and they will have to deal with the issues next year. that's when we will see a trial or deliberations made through the ethics committee. we don't know how they will be resolved. there are a lot of charges against charlie rangel that will be litigated that works in their favor, but we won't know until the process is done. >> there is a deep examination of maxine waters and those bank transactions. what do we know about the alleged terror plots against european capitals? the police files reveal the struggle endured by pope john paul ii.
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middle east special envoy george mitchell met today in tel aviv with netanyahu, but emerged with no public sign of any progress of averting a walkout from the peace talks. ft. hood officials are investigating a record number of suicides. 14 soldiers at the base have taken their lives this year. six more suspected suicides have been reported. for the first time, the united states has imposed sanctions on iran for human rights violations. the sanctions are the first action president obama has taken with iran. secretary of state, hillary clinton, today at the state department along with tim geithner, the treasury secretary. >> in signing the executive order, the president sends the message that the united states stands up for the universal rights of all people. and as president obama said at
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the united nations last week, we will call out those who suppress ideas. we will serve as a voice for the voiceless, and we will hold abusive governments and individuals accountable for their actions. >> in europe today, new concerns about an islamic terror plot. at the same time the united states have been stepping up the missile strikes, drone attacks in pakistan, where the threat is believed to have originated. there is no link between the two, nevertheless, janet napolitano says u.s. intelligence remains on alert for new threats to this country. >> we don't comment on specific threats one way or the other, but we are always constantly working on our own security as well as the security of our allies. we know al qaeda, its affiliates and terrorists are constantly thinking about ways to attack the west.
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>> that was janet napolitano, earlier on the "daily rundown." with me now a former counter terror official in the white house. let's talk about what we know and don't know. we have got the eiffel tower evacuated twice, concerns in germany, and in the uk and in france, and at the same time, these increased drone attacks in pakistan. is there a connection? >> well, andrea, there is a -- this is a serious threat. this is probably emanating from what i call al qaeda central. we should not lose sight of the fact that bin laden still aspire to conduct attacks inside europe and the united states. we have been debating whether they have the capability. this one looks to be a real plot. the good news is u.s. and western europeanen law
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enforcement and intelligence officials have been on top of it. they are not sure if they can identify the individuals who were sent out to conduct the attack. >> at this stage, we are told there was no known plot against the united states, and that's what janet napolitano was suggesting. there are specific threats against european capitals? >> yes, that's right. this is one plot that is european-focused. but out of due diligence, officials are looking at whether or not there are u.s. links. and the drone strikes are not related to this particular plot. it's based on intelligence and precise targeting, and if they are able to eliminate elements of the network inside pakistan, that's their number one objective. if part of the network might be related to the current jet stream, all the better.
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it's not the threat reporting that is driving the current uptempo in drone strikes. >> what we know is increased concerns about the troop security in afghanistan, emanating from pakistan, and real concerns, even by the head of the pakistan military, that the civilian side in pakistan is not up to the task, and the cia now on the ground there really concerned about pakistan and the leadership there. >> well, you see in another example of the tenuous nation of the government's lack of response to the tragic floods and on going concern about the instability on the border. what you are seeing in the border region is a witch's brew of afghan and pakistany taliban and al qaeda posing threats to the central government in pakistan. the pakistani military is nervous about that, and they may try to do something in the coming months to rechange the structure that is in the
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country. that is going to create a lot of concern in washington, and in fact, cia director, leon pennetta is in pakistan right now for a previously scheduled meeting. i guarantee some of the concerns will be raised. >> can you be sure of that. thank you so much. now, telling the story of pope john paul ii's story. never seen before documents show that the soviet political leadership considered the pope the single greatest threat to their power. george wigel is an old friend, and author of the new book. "the end and the beginning pope john paul ii." this is quite a book. you are the authority on pope john paul ii. what have we learned about the end of the cold war and the central role he played and how he was targeted? >> he was a pivotal figure in
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the collapse of the european communism, and the people paying attention to these things at the time knew there was a significant effort to penetrate the vatican and do in the catholic church in possible. what these documents, which i am able to bring to the public for the first time in the book demonstrate the shear magnitude of the effort. millions upon millions of man hours, and billions upon billions of dollars to try to penetrate the vatican, and impede the work of john paul ii, and blackmail him prior to his visit to poland under martial law. it reads like a spy novel, but it all happened. >> because of his unique role in history, coming from behind the iron curtain, you write he was seen in person by more human beings than any man in history, and that's the most visible man in the history of the word, and
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he was one that understood himself primarily as a christian des desiple and evangelist. >> that is how he understood his life. that's how he understood the narrative of his life. the turning point of his life, i think, was the second world war, when his experience of what he once called to me humiliation at the hands of evil led him to bend his entire life to the defense of human rights and human dignity. >> do you think that -- you say he was shaped by world war ii. he was shaped by the post war experience of living in poland during that period under communism? >> every polish police had a
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watcher from the time they entered seminary from age 14 or 18 until they died. every move this man made was monitored and surveyed. his homes bugged, and his correspondence was opened. it was a remarkable story of resistance, and great good humor in doing it. it was not bitterness on his side of the thing, although he once described to me as all wore all the time. it was us and them all the time. but he was a happy warrior. >> indeed. and it's so important to remember this. because of all the other controversies, and i would love it if you could come back and we'll talk about that, the sex scandal and all, the defining character of this man and this leader was the cold war and the end of the cold war. >> he was the great advocate in the second half of the 20th
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for the fifth year in a row. and then irene, the president of kraft foods. and a big acquisition of cadbury, and that was controversial. irene thought her biggest share -- irene fought her biggest share holder and won. we had one woman in the top ten, she was at ibm, and she moved into the top ten and she could well be the next ceo of ibm. >> and ursula burns, somebody i have met and know. there is a great deal of diversity. she is a very strong and powerful african-american woman.
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you still don't have a lot of diversity. the other thing is, you don't have a lot of diversity in the kinds of fields. women are still not in banking and the financial world to the extend of the other companies. >> we have two bank of america women on the list. one has the toughest job at b of a, and then one runs the wealth management business. very few women in banking and a lot of women in consumer products, consumer packaged products, and a number of women in media, and a few tech women and a couple google women on the list, and cheryl sandburg who is the number two at facebook. for the first time we have, since we are at war, three women from defense contractors on the list. that was a surprise to us. >> those are breakthroughs.
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let's talk about washington. washington's power order has moved somewhat, nancy pelosi moving down and hillary clinton moving up. >> last year we did the d.c. power list for the first time, and we had nancy pelosi as number one and hillary clinton, and we switched it this year. the republicans could take the house, and we thought it was appropriate to move nancy pelosi, who is still very powerful a speaker, into the number two position. >> and a new member of your top washington list, elizabeth warren. you also have valerie jarrett at the white house. you don't have -- as a power woman -- the first lady? >> no, we don't. we seriously considered putting her on the list, but, you know, we really were looking for women who have, you know, either
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cabinet positions. we have a couple senators on the list. olympia snowe and susan collins. and michelle obama, we may do it some day, as she moves more into the power playing in the policy areas, but not yet. >> all right, patty sellers, and you are at the summit next week. we cannot wait. powerful women converging on washington. >> we're glad you are coming, andrea. yeah, wouldn't miss it. replant a forest? maybe you want to rebuild homes for those in need? or, maybe you want to help improve our schools? whatever you want to do, members project from american express
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race is tightening. both candidates were on the attack, fighting over everything from the death penalty to how to deal with the state's deficit. jerry brown lashed out at his republican opponent for investing $119 million of her own money into the campaign. whitman accused brown of being a career politician. >> the chamber of commerce has a secret slush fund that they use for meg whitman to attack me. that's her friend pete wilson. i'd like her to tell the chamber, please disclose all the donors to those ads you're running on television. and whether it's labor or business, i would like to see 24-hour disclosure. >> the fact that jerry brown is trying to distance himself from the labor unions is amazing to me because the labor unions and jerry brown have been joined at the hip for 40 years. my view is putting jerry brown
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in charge of negotiating with the labor unions around pensions, around how many people we have in the state government is like putting count dracula in charge of the blood bank. >> well, how do you really feel about it? brown and whitman will debate again on saturday. so what political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours? chris is the newest msnbc contributor. that's great for us. thank you. >> thank you. >> chris, we're glad you're an board. >> thank you. >> we are really excited. so we're talking about vice president biden out on the stump. you were the one who said this was going to be a hot debate and, boy, it delivered. >> golly, first of all, the california thing, look, meg whitman had that count dracula in a blood bank line ready to go from the start. one thing that wasn't mentioned in the debate, but i think it's important, jerry brown kept saying things like, well, when i
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was governor or, you know, the -- essentially saying things like soda used to cost five cents. don't remind people of your able. don't remind people you've been in politics for so long. i thought meg whitman did fine. joe biden is going to be in new mexico and nebraska tomorrow. both stumping for a house candidate in nebraska, a gubernatorial candidate in new mexico. joe biden has been a surrogate quite a bit. he does a lot of gubernatorial, a lot of house. he was in pennsylvania yesterday at penn state. he is a good surrogate for the obama administration. he can go in some places that barack obama, who is not particularly popular, can right now. he'll be helpful in the last 34 days. >> he sure can be. thanks so much, chris. that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." tamarin hall is here with a look at what's coming up next on msnbc. tamarin? >> hey there. in our next hour, tropical storm nicole pounding florida and is
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