>> i have to cut you there. sorry, that's going to be the last word for tonight. . you can have you be talking about tomorrow? o'donnell's phony claim that she went to oxford university. she blamed it on a website. tonight, the conservative institute said the application she sent to it includes the oxford university, oxford uk certificate awarded 2001. when you do that, what's that called again? >> lie or an exaggeration is disrespect to whoever you're exaggerating or lying to. it's not respecting reality. >> perhaps this will refresh your memory. the housekeeper for the republican candidate for the governor of california produces

the smoking gun. speaking of smoking -- >> it's going to get nastier. >> carl, did you say that? what a guy. the republican candidate for governor of new york prof sizes his own near brawl with the reporter from the friendly "new york post". >> take you out, buddy. >> take me out? >> yeah. >> how are you going to do that? >> watch. >> in the traditional paradigm, tea partiers are self-destructing. but don't they want to be see shoving the media. just a cave before i go, the democrats inexplicably agree, no recess appointments by the president. he's in favor of it. funny, asked the congresswoman, isn't your tv network anti-imgrant. he pulls a freud. >> we're happy to have any democrats on fox news. >> not anti-democrat,

anti-immigrant. >> the junior senator from oklahoma. that's why. we found a new planet, not too hot, not too cold, just right for life. what's it made of mr. science fella. >> marshmallow careen or a liquid cherry center with a crust on the outside. >> welcome to planet cherry marshmallow chocolate cake. all the news and commentary now on "countdown." . good evening from new york. the tea parisi is about real people speaking the truth about restoring honor to government, openness, transparency, honesty, personal responsible, accountability. keep the attributes in mind as you see the tape of gubernatorial candidate carl paladino that's been playing all day. and the tape of him beforehand that you have not seen all day. that's coming up. keep those attributes in mind

too as you peruse the tattered shreds of what was once known as the senate candidate, christine o'donnell. the latest today, the conservative think tank reveal what is she herself put on the resume she submitted to them. it's been reported widely that o'donnell claimed for years that she had graduated from fair leigh dickinson university in 1993 but she failed to pay them $4,000 she owed and to finish her coursework, she did not graduate until 2010, september 1, 2010, actually. we knew a lawsuit of hers falsely claimed she was going to prince pon graduate school, a claim she blamed on her lawyer despite the fact she filed the suit herself. she claimed to have attended claremont graduate university when in fact she went to a think tank called the claremont institute. then the linkidin claims. they asked about the page on

friday. five days ago, o'donnell issued a statement. there have been reports that i have leaked false information on a program under my name. this is untrue. i completed a summer class. i completed a lincoln fellowship at the claremont institute. they could not confirm o'donnell's claim she did not write her. her website says graduate fellowship. but today, that one is small potatoes. buzz linkdin is not the only personal profile website. meet zoom info christine o'donnell. this one claims she went to the university of poxford, but this website said o'donnell herself verified it. last updated months before she got her degree, it said she had her degree. quoting a zoominfo spokes person, we scam the web to get our info. it's pulled from a variety of

sources. it's claim in 2008. which means she verified the information and updated it. if it's not clear that o'donnell herself generated the oxford university lie, there is this tonight from talking points memo. the conservative claremont institute still has her application. with the resume she wrote and submitted back in 2002. here's what they say it says. oxford university, oxford uk, certificate awarded, summer 2001. to the story of battling carl "the truth" paladino in a moment. a columnist at politicsdaily.com. good evening. >> good evening, keith. >> here's the second website that says she verified the info. the conservative think tank said she submitted the resume. it's one thing to get caught in a lie or maybe with such a wonderful academic record to get your various degrees in educational backgrounds confu d confused. what happens if you get caught in the lie denying the first lie? >> well, you know, politicians

tend to get the scandals they deserve. she's not a very serious candidate. so she's getting a not very serious scandal. linkdin gate morphing to zoominfo-gate. it shows what we like to say is a pattern. she just doesn't get it right. in washington, the old saying is, it's not the wrongdoing, it's the cover-up. now we seem to have a cover-up of a cover-up. and i want to know how much more is going to come out on her background. >> to that point, the associated press walks on tiptoes when implying a candidate's dishonesty before a campaign. it's written -- o'donnell has made incorrect or misleading statements about her education before. there was a time in our distant past, you know, four, six years ago, that someone running for senate might be expected to bow out of a race based on a statement by the associated press, an assessment like that. what does a 2010 tea party

candidate do? >> that's easy. you blame the media. why worry about facts at this point? she's said this week that she believes her campaign is inspired and guided by god. if you believe that, why would you let a little thing like lying on a resume get in your way if god's brought to you this point, god's not worried about your resume. >> god has lower journalistic standards than we have also. >> yes. >> this is a party that's supposed to bring -- as i said before, there's some nobility in the concept of honesty and transparency to washington. but if lying is okay with the voters who support this group, is that because there's a feeling that anything is okay in the service of the cause because they know the cause is, you know, righteous? >> you know, you'd like to think that voters of all stripes care about competency and intelligence in their candidates, so therefore we end up with competent and intelligent government.

but this stage, you have a slight lean to the electorate, you won't know how big it is that cares about one thing. anger. i vote for anybody regardless of their back ground, regardless of whether they're telling the truth or not if it expresses their anger. they don't want competent, intelligent government, they want angry government. which is not going to give them anything that they think they or the country requires. >> is there anything instructive in this in the rest of the republican tea party? does this affect other candidates' approach based on the o'donnell candidacy or towards the o'donnell candidacy? >> i think we like -- pundits and analysts and commentators and journalists like to look at the tea party as a national phenomenon. but when it comes to the election, really, each tea bag is in its own tuft. so she has to convince delaware voters, joe miller has to convince alaska, sharon angle, the same in nevada, ronald paul, the same in kentucky. while christine o'donnell may be

making the tea party look bad, they're rushing to give her lots of money nationally, i doubt it will have much of an impact on the other races. at the end of the day, when we're looking at the results of the november 2, november 3, when we look at the individual results and try to draw national lessons out of that. but they all take place in their own horizons. >> just because it's a bunch of people who never have been out of their homes before does not mean they don't know each other already. david korn, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, keith. now as promised, the tea party candidate restoring the government standing for the lack of evidence for it and threatening to take out a reporter on camera. and not even a member of the lame stream media, the tea party can't get a fair shake from rupert muir dock and "the new york post." carl pal dino was in his headlines for his family values. he likes family so much, he started his second family outside his own fathering a daughter ten years ago with a

woman who was not his wife. on tuesday, he was asked about the tone of the campaign. >> the campaign is being characterized as being nasty. >> it's going to get nastier. sheldon silver and andrew cuomo should -- should get ready, strap in, because this is your life, andrew cuomo. >> if it gets nasty and stuff, as it gets nastier and stuff, is that something that some people -- okay, when you first came out? >> i don't mind being nasty. >> the same day it got a lot nastier. paladino told politico that he had wars. when he was married, the campaign manager had asked about cuomo who never was accused of infidelity. his wife is still supporting his campaign. then last night, fred dicker of murdock's "new york post," something like the dean of albany journalists asked paladino for evidence. the bleeped word you'll now

hear, we should note, is the f-word. >> you have any evidence of that. if you don't, isn't that going into the gutter? >> a guy who's been in the gutter and spent a good part of his life in the gutter, he should think twice about trying to characterize me. >> you're a lawyer. >> i am a lawyer. i'm a lawyer, okay, that -- >> what evidence do you have? something that most people would consider a smear. >> i want to know why you sent my goons after my daughter. >> i sent no one. >> i want to know about that. >> your charge against cuomo. do you have evidence or do you not? >> at the appropriate time? >> how do you -- >> how can you say that about -- >> come on, i have a daughter too, fred. >> you talked about her. >> i have a daughter. >> you brought it out, fred. >> stay away from me. >> what evidence do you have? >> listen -- you send one of your goons after my daughter. send them one more time. >> easy. >> come on. >> come on, don't touch me.

>> come on -- >> who are you? who the hell are you? i'm going after a question. >> ask your question. >> do you have any evidence for the charge -- >> at the appropriate time, you'll get it. >> this guy is the attorney general of new york. >> and you're his stalking horse, you're his bird dog. you send another goon to my daughter's house and i'll take you out, buddy. >> take me out? yeah. >> how are you going to do that? >> watch. with us tonight is the jeff marshall, the editor and founder of talking points memo. the only words i made out of that is "i got to go to the bathroom." it looked like something out of a cheap movie. >> "good fellas". >> no, like the cheap one, someone goes to see "good fellas," someone writes a script based on what nay remember about it. how do you run a right wing campaign in new york state when you royally ticked off "the new york post." >>ite's tough. as a republican, certainly as a

conservative republican, you have the kanld date, the campaign manager, and "the new york post." so they're -- they're going in to it with a big resource with them. and calling, threatening to rub out, kill, i don't know what it is, "the new york post," you know, they're one of the reporters and calling them liars, that's not good. >> what is the choice here? "the new york post" editor in chief made a statement in which he said the claim about sending photographers did not send photographers to follow paladino's daughters. you want to say both. there's no choice. >> there might be a credibility issue on both sides. paladino going back six months to a year, the racist e-mails, the this, the this, he came in with the credibility sort of on the red line, on empty. and, you know, once you're threatening to take out

reporters, that doesn't -- that doesn't give anybody a good feeling anyway. so i think that it sounds like it's on him for the moment. >> this isn't the los angeles kind of takeout where you take somebody on a date. this is the other kind. >> this is a new york takeout. >> empty parking space. >> we all look at this and rightry shake our heads because we grew up in this country and we have a premise of what the lines are. it may be broad in this country between the most able and honest politician and the least. isn't this here what tea partiers in their souls want to see? the threat of physical violence particularly against reporters, isn't this the logical end from the premise of the idea that they are the fighters of pure evil in this country. >> which tea party candidate is going to lose it and beat the crap out of someone before november 2. you have a situation in maine or something similar happened a few days ago. yeah, i think you're right. the problem is is that

especially a place like new york, tea partiers make up like 15% of the electorate, 10%. a tea party candidate has to make a pivot toward sanity in the general election. so i think that even though there's a lot of discontent in the country right now, you know, people don't want to hear the person who's going to be running the state government saying he's going to take you out. that doesn't -- people don't feel good about that. >> governor, you're going to be sleeping with the fishes. we have "the new york post" calling paladino for dishonesty. thanks to "talking points memo," christine o'donnell has been seriously dishonest about her academic back ground. is it the truth does not matter in the pursuit of some sort of fantasy of higher patriotism? or is it something else? >> i don't think truth matters. that's a great deal. the republicans gave out their

pledge a few days ago. and debt is the biggest problem facing the nation. and to solve it, we're going to increase the national debt by $4 trillion. that gives you a sense that i don't think christine o'donnell is going to be able to win in delaware but it's not looking better for carl paladino. the case with meg whitman is different. i don't think people are saying that meg whitman is crazy, she got herself in a tight spot here. i think this cycle -- truth has a big factor, not no factor. you can push things a little too far. and even for 2010, maybe you get in to trouble. and i think christine o'donnell, carl paladino, and i'm sure someone else over the next month will cross that line. >> we know where the line is. we won't know until after the election. "talking points" editor and founder george marshall. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> he fights off another say-anything tea partier, harry

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listen carefully or you might think you heard this wrong. in november of 2007, senate majority leader harry reid kept the senate in session in an actual recess so president bush cannot make any recess appointments. last night, senate majority leader harry reid decided he would keep the senate in session during the actual recess so his own party's president could not make any recess appointments. in the so-called compromise it's a precedent setting cave-in and democrats shrink out the door on the way home. majority leader reid has to agree to schedule pro forma sessions every week for the next six weeks while the senators are home in recess. the senate will be in session on a technicality. with the senate not in recess, president obama will not be able to make recess appointments. in a deal struck with minority leader mitch mcconnell, 110 nominees were confirmed. but the vast majority of those 110 stalled nominees would have

been easily confirmed anyway by an up or down vote. but such votes have been blocked as these nominees have been held up under a variety of senate rules abused for maximum affect. and it would have slowed the judicial nominees to a degree never before seen. so where's the so-called deal? it gets worse. mcconnell had threatened the democrats with this -- under yet another obscure rule, mcconnell would have sent obama's controversial nominees to the house. to the white house, rather. if he had done that, those nominees would have had to be resubmitted slowing the process down further. he did it in august. five of the president's judicial nominees. if all of that seems like a highly lopsided compromise, it may be because of the very nature of democrats. when asked if they admired political leaders who compromised or leaders who stuck to their positions without compromise, most americans admired the no compromise ones. while the republicans in strong numbers were against compromise,

democrats are in favor of it. which in practice means it noncompromisers draw the greatest concessions from the compromisers, not the other way around. "washington post" staff reporter "newsweek" columnist and msnbc contributor ezra klein. good evening. >> how are you? >> confused about this. i thought we had the parameters understood about how broken the senate actually is. explain why this indicates that we were narrow mind in our thinking? >> well, the rule about the senate is as broken as you think it is, we're weak. this is what we're doing here. the deal is as you described it. it's going be essentially fake sessions of congress, of the senate for six weeks. fake sessions in the senate because if the judicial nominees go 30 days without a vote, the republicans can send them back. then he can make them go through the confirmation, the whole thing, the hearings all over again. it means no recess appointments. that means the director can't be put in held up by a democrat,

mary landrieu. larry diamond to the federal reserve desperately needed or any of the other 100 odd. it's giving up quite a lot. reid's people say they're happy with the deal. from the outside, they look like a strange bargain. >> can they make it because mcconnell is saying you think this process is stalled, i can make it much, much worse. >> they will tell you they made it because it's a terrific deal. they got everything they wanted. they will stick to that. maybe they feel that way. but, you know, mcconnell and the republicans have been effective in holding up obama's nominees. judicial nominees alone, circuit court judges are waiting five times longer on average than they did at george w. bush. so mcconnell is doing well there. they struck a deal, it seems to everyone else so they can get a bunch of the nominees out. 50 some were confirmed last night. but in return for the controversial nominees were held. and these nominees, they're not necessarily all that controversial. although the 59 nominees who were passed with unanimous

consent last night, they were held up too. they were so controversial. but, in fact, they weren't controversial at all when it came down to it. >> what would happen if the majority leader would stand up to the threat? >> not clear. in the senate, the rules are in large part agreements with one another. you can change the rules and simply refuse to honor the agreements. you're seeing something new happen in judicial -- not just judicial but nominations generally, the attempt to take the recess appointments off of the table. now that this becomes the norm, you have now on the one hand a process where you can't confirm nominees and the other hand you can't recess anominees. you're going have talented people are not going to go to government. good people are not going to go to government. they're going to prefer to do what elizabeth warren did if they go in to government which is get a temporary, nonsenate confirmed and less powerful position so they don't have to wait a year with no certainty of getting a job. in the long run, a much worse government, less talented people was you won't be able to attract

people in this process. >> as if this were not all good enough news, democrats agreed to spending cuts to keep the government running through december? another. >> republicans threatened a government shutdown to get a continuing resolution which the government will continue to be funded through the recess, they had to agree with republicans they would cut spending somewhat. it's interesting -- the minority has a lot of power but it's hard to explain to americans why the majority party has to keep giving away so much. >> or doesn't have any sometimes. ezra klein of "the washington post." thank you. >> thank you. elsewhere in the senate, the staffer from georgia, chambliss' office who posted a threatening slur on a blog has been found and fired. joe my god called him personally to apologize and tell him about the firing, the name of the staffer had not been released. the original "post" read all

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asked rupert about his anti-immigrant stand and he said, we're not anti-democrat.

that's ahead. first the sanity break in the tweet of the day. all we have is killer tofu. who writes -- let's play "odd ball." he transformed his old pickup truck to a drivable radio flyer wagon. why drive a truck if you're rolling on uncriminalably long wagon. it took months to get the transformation. it's street legal and gets great gas mileage as long as it's rolling downhill. kevin bacon made out of bacon. wait, kevin bacon? looks more like conan o'brien.

either way, conan o'bacon. deciding that cooked bacon would pose a, quote, rot factor problem, the artist decided to go primarily with bacon bits. the bacon bacon is sold on ebay to raise money for the nonprofit group, ashlee's team. $353 plus shipping. someone really wants to bring home the bacon. i don't have a co-anchor named chelsea. to the windy city where the contest of the next governor of illinois is in full swing. bill braydy is promising to live in the predecessor. where i lay my hat is my home. then he decided to describe a different article of clothing. >> i have plenty of clothes there, even my underwear there.

that's important. >> tmi. don't let anybody ask about the executive bathroom. the march is on. rupert murdoch testifies he's in favor of a path to citizenship. he thinks that means a path to citizenship for democrats. we will resume.

today to a house subcommittee, an immigrant talked about reform. one would expect fox news to be all over that, considering it was the same congressional panel that heard testimony from steven colbert considering the immigrant he was lobbying for amnesty for illegals. but in the third story, instead of hyperventilating in to near hysterics, the folks at fox were subdued, when i say subdued, i mean they only mentioned it once. odd, considering the testimony came from their boss, the nonspiritual leader of fox-pac

rupert murdoch. by a coalition of business owners citing his own experience as an immigrant to this country. reform would strengthen if only he lamented there wasn't this partisan rhetoric driving the debate. >> today america is deeply divided of immigration policy. many people worry that immigrants will take their jobs, change their community. >> whose bloody idea is that, sparky. where did he get those crazy ideas. >> we have millions of people that have not respected american law, american sovereignty. >> illegal immigrants crossing to arizona committing violent crimes. >> you deport them. you have to -- >> after a period of time. >> we can't continue to reward bad behavior. >> nevertheless, murdoch continuing his plea for reform. >> by supporting complete and proper closure of all of our borders to future illegal immigrants, our partnership

advocates will form a path to citizenship for responsible, law-abiding immigrants in the u.s. today without proper authority. it's nonsense to talk of expelling 11 million or 12 million people. not only is it impractical, it's cost prohibitive. >> maxine waters, one of the targets of late pressing mr. murdoch on why the reasonable views do not seem to be reflected in any one of the news outlets. >> why are you here with a basically decent proposal talking about the advantage of immigrants to our economy, but i don't see that being promoted on fox. >> we -- have all views on fox. if you would like to come and state these views, we'd love to have you on fox news. >> no, i don't want to be on it. that's not what i'm talking

about. >> we don't censor that or take any particular line at all. we are not anti-immigrant on fox news. >> what's the difference? what is the contradiction? why don't you use your power to help us? to promote what you're talking about? >> i would say that we do, with respect we employ a lot of immigrants on fox. and in all -- if you're talking about fox news, we have many immigrants there. and we do not take any consistent anti-immigrant line. we have certainly debates about it on both sides. >> we have over 4,000 australians named bruce working for the company. later democratic congressman linda sanchez unlike mr. murdoch has seen fox questioned him on this response -- as in, isn't your network anti-immigrant? >> i don't think we do take an anti-democratic view. we're happy to welcome any democrats on to fox news.

>> i didn't say democrat, i said anti-immigrant. >> republican congressman lamar smith to the rescue -- >> there was an independent study done that showed that fox was the most fair of all the television news programs. if you're coming from a liberal perspective, it might seem conservative. but to the objective observer, fox has both sides more often than the three networks and i'll put that in the record in a minute. >> oddly, mr. smith has a point about those. here's mr. murdoch in june on "fox & friends" discussing with somebody that looks like the host, steve doocy. >> you touched on the politics. this is a political hot potato. how do you get by the partisanship that's out there and so biting for a while. >> i don't know, but it can be done. i think the mayor has shown how you get partisan in the city of new york. i think we can show to the public the benefits of having migrants and the jobs that go

with it. >> perhaps sensing panic and/or betrayal from the fox viewer at home, after the boss left, the real steve doocy kicked out the more reasonable avatar and alongside his co-host got everybody back on message. >> tell us about the threat of illegal amnesty. there are millions of illegals in this country. something going on where an executive order could make them legal. >> thousands of illegal immigrants are being encouraged to participate in the 2010 census. >> illegals in the census? >> yeah. >> the more illegals in the district, the better for the people in congress. >> here you go, congressman smith. both sides out of the same guy's mouth. testify the same day that a new world suitable for life is discovered? coincidence? i think not. the judge was handing out acorns filled with condoms and from a pennsylvania town with a legendary name. and how to fight the super

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we found a new planet that might sustain life. we found it with taxpayer dolla dollars. should we unfind it? get out the "worst persons in the world." he presides just outside of lancaster, pennsylvania, he was discovered outside of the soldier's grove outside of the state capital approaching women and handing them acorns. inside the acorns, he stuffed condoms. he said it was a joke, one he read about on the internet. police say it was disorderly conduct. how the judge did this, leading to this great quote, the lancaster newspaper, "the new era." it's unclear how he concealed the condoms in the acorns. capitol police are holding several unopened nuts in eviden evidence. unopen nuts? little town outside of lancaster

where he resides and presides -- intercourse, pennsylvania. our runner-up, meg whitman running on a hold employers' liable for undocumented workers when it was revealed for nine years she had employed an undocumented worker as a housekeeper, she blamed oint the agency that sent the woman to her. there was a letter in 2003 in whitman's husband saying there was a discrepancy and that the woman might be here immediately. she said her husband never got that letter. she suggested that the housekeeper had stolen the letter so whitman wouldn't see it. then this happened. perhaps this will refresh your memory. gloria allred, the lawyer for the housekeeper, released a giant copy of the letter with information requested by the government partially filled out on the letter along with a note to the housekeeper -- niki, please check this. even whitman's husband said, it's possible that the handwriting on the letter is

his. a candidate lied, suggested the victim was a liar and a thief, then the proof turned up. ms. whitman, just say oops, just say oops and get out. our winner, senator tom coburn of oklahoma. you and i sat here in horror as haiti was nearly destroyed and we sat here proudly as our government of ours pledged $1.2 million in aid. of the $917 million for reconstruction passed by the house and senate, not a dime of the aid has gotten to haiti yet. this is because the senate has not passed the authorization bill directing how the money is to be spent. and this is because the bill has had a senatorial hold placed on it. the associated press reports that the hold was placed by senator coburn. his suggestion? a seep your haiti coordinator whose salary and staff would cost $1 million a year. he said it's unnecessary because

we have an ambassador to haiti. 1,300,000 haitians are still homeless tonight nearly nine months after a earthquake so tom coburn can boast he's prevented some wasteful spending and they can clap him on the back and tell him what a big man he is, instead of telling the truth, that he is committing an atrocity against the people of haiti and doing so in the name of "we the people" of the united states. senator tom coburn of oklahoma, today's worst person of the world.

20 light years from earth, there is a star called gliese 581 that has three planets circling it in what astronomers call a habitable zone. one is too hot for life to exist and the second is too cold. and the third is just right.

scientists report the existence of a planet dubbed the goldilocks planet. at some point, the three space bears will return and they will be pissed to find us there. the announcement coming in the form of a scientific foundation webcast and publication in the astro physical journal. the scientists led the teams that discovered gliese 581g. close enough to the red dwarf star to sustain liquid water on its planet. the other half the sun is always up. like a celestial mcblt. the line between the light and dark is called the terminate and

believed to be the most habitable place for life. >> so you have on this planet over billions of years, very stable zones where the ecosystem stays the same temperature. you have ecolongitude. if you like hot zones, if you're a creature that evolves to have hot things, you move toward the star side. if you're a polar bear or something that likes cold zones, you move toward the shadow side. you find your zone where you're the most comfortable. it stays like that basically forever. >> see? what'd i tell you? bears. the reason we know about gliese 581g is because of these two scientists and the hard work of their teams, teams supported by the national science foundation and nasa, each funded by you, the taxpayer at home. come up with a better name than gliese 581g. if these astronomers are proven

correct, fkd fly in the fact of long-standing arguments that earth's unique design implies a special purpose for humanity. not if you can do it over there too. what now? let's turn to gerald franklin, the man i turn to when i have stupid questions about serious subjects. apart from the space bears, how important is this in your assessment? >> this will be an opportunity to invent space bear mace. it is a big thing. when we look around the universe, we found the most numerous stars are the red dwarf stars. by finding a system like this, it also means we'll find many, many more kinds of planets. >> i was going to ask you about this. i took two years of astronomy in high school. both times it was right before lunch. i sort of faded in and out of

the class. because the room would get dark and it would be very quiet in the hum of the projector. i thought red dwarf stars were in terms of the prospect around them essentially inert and useless. >> it would seem that way. what's going on is that the red dwarf stars radiate a small amount of energy. you pack the planets closer to the star and then they can get the radiation they need to create a liveable environment, if you will. the idea though is that it's now become apparent that the red dwarf stars are the most numerous throughout the entire universe. lots of possibilities for other places we might find some life. >> 1 out of every 500 planets could support life? are we going to get more goldilocks planets? did the statistical prospect just improve? >> i think it did improve. now we've been able to identify clearly there is a habitable zone around the stars.

within that zone, it is possible to find planets that are getting closer to the size and mass of earth. that's the other important piece. >> there are people on this planet who believe as a species we're unique and alone in the universe and deliberately placed here. the arguments begin over who, what, when and for what purpose. what discovery does that mean for those people? is it significant enough to say, we have more facts to throw at you? >> the people who choose to go in that direction of believing in a supreme being that created this one planet with this life as being unique may have to expand their thinking about what their supreme being is really capable of. imagine that as a supreme being, you create this entire universe. would you create just one planet alone out of the billions of stars and possible tens of billion of other planets? you could experiment with different life forces, life styles on all these other planets if you wanted to.

>> if we were the first experiment, whoever it was might have just stopped while they were behind. something more practical and down to earth. nasa and the funding, without them who knows if we ever find goldilocks. >> in this research, the tax dollars are driving astronomical research. that also drives the education system that creates the astronomers to do this work. it also is the funding that drives the development of our technological capability to do this. we're making ourselves smarter and more technologically capable. these technologies trickle down throughout the culture and provide improvements in all kinds of other ways we see further down the road. the most important thing is that

it gives us the opportunity to train people to be quality thinkers. that's really important these days. it's going to become more important in the future. >> not to get overly political on you, do you get feeling generally feeling that science is under attack, not merely philosophically and not educational, which it has been off and on for the last 500 years, but monetarily? like somebody is trying to shut the tap off when somebody's trying to come out. >> it seems like we're not putting the dollars where we need to put the dollars. science isextraordinarily important for that. science makes it possible for the billions of people on this planet to hopefully improve their quality of life on the planet. as we get more and more people here, it will become more and more important for that technology to help us make it better for even. >> plus, we now have interstellar bears. derek pitts.