we head to the top of the show, on you our producer has what you're doing up at this m. would could go all day without hearing face bath with the tongue again. let's start "morning joe." >> what is your relationship with the president like? >> we get along fine. >> you don't smoke cigarettes together? >> no. the first thing that will happen, boehner, you're almost as dark as me. >> is that what he says to you? >> we'll talk about golf, talk about our skin color. we have a nice relationship. the problem we have is that when we talk to each other, there's

no connection. >> that's interesting. good to know what they're talking about. good morning. it's october 5th. we're here in washington d.c. >> one of barack obama's funniest line, these speeches you go to, and they're so boring barack obama saw john boehner out there and -- >> they have a lot in common. he's a person of color just like i am but his color has never been found in the natural world. >> that's good! >> a speechwriter. was that the speechwriter in you that remembers that? >> i had to cover that at msnbc while everybody else was at dinner. the -- >> it was hilarious. >> the president loved the line

so much he started laughing in the middle of it. >> that's what i love about watching him give those speeches. he always -- he'll get halfway through the line and just start laughing. it's kind of like me starting to tell the joke and not knowing -- >> we will get to the end of it. we have willie geist. >> i think it's good john boehner didn't go on there and say barack obama is a marxist. so many people on the right have been vilifying him. i get along fine with him. >> that was a smart move and nice to say. willie geist is in new york. we miss you, willie. look, he's not. forget it. never mind. sorry. >> you're busy with that broadcast. >> the show, yeah. >> quite a show. >> he's the founder of it. >> we also have msnbc political analyst, pat buchanan and msnbc

chief washington correspondent and author of "baby love," norah o'donnell, a best-seller. teach your babies to eat well, start them off on a healthy note. >> do you know how hard it is to actually strain a big mac. after reading "baby love," i put it through a strainer and give it to little andrew. >> nora's husband is a famed chef and the two wrote it together and great meals for parents as well, extremely healthy, starting from infancy. i love it. >> it will change your life. >> you must buy "baby love." >> you've been lobbying to be the official by og gra 49er of pat buchanan. how's it going for you? >> he's rejecting my offer. i can't believe he won't open up to me. >> we have got to get you to

stop writing these polimics and get you to write your memoirs of the reagan years. >> do i have a contract to do the nixon memoirs. not my own campaigns. not a lot of interest in those. >> there definitely is. >> the godfather. >> the nixon years, real fascination, almost more than the reagan years, what happened back there and all the turmoil of the 1960s, early 1970s. we have a contract to do that. >> the statute of limitations has largely run out on most of that stuff. >> four people like sam. >> history bonanza. >> also, we are -- i am constantly ridiculed for talking about 1994, but the reason why is the parallels between that and 2010. remarkable. but that really started in 1992.

you and perot and what you were talking about in '92, is reemerging in 2010. you can go back to the book you wrote on predicting the collapse of our economy, this isn't the pat buchanan variety hour. i went back and read one of your books. it was stunning, you predicted everything that would happen in 2010. people called you a knuckle dragging neanderthal because you were talking about how our trade policies would destroy our base of manufacturing goods. >> and said, look, given the chinese, what they're doing, thievary and the low cost of labor and the rest of it, they will pull every single factory out of the united states. they pulled over 55,000 factories out in this last decade alone, we lost 56,000 manufacturing jobs. you hear donald trump, what he's saying is economic nationalism, put your own country first, your

own economy. these guys in china are tough customers, they are rivals and they want to be first in the world. we have to understand we are in a rivalry of competition. they aren't our trade partners. it's like the nfl. >> donald trump is going to be on the show today. >> are you going to call him? >> i'm going to call him. >> say happy birthday, mr. president? >> i might. >> donald, though -- >> we'll see. we'll discuss the package gents. >> you talk to trump abo about -- he's calling in because his name is being floated in new hampshire polls. you talk to trump about our economy and sounds a lot like pat. he says dealing with the chinese, he deals with them all the time. he says these people are tough. i'll let him fill in the word later on and will screw you and lie to you and elbow you and do everything they can to get a competitive advantage. he says that's fine, their government helps them. when i go noa battle with the

chinese, they have their government working working with them, i have my government fighting me every step of the way. who do you think will win that battle? it is the truth. this economic nationalism argument is an argument you will start hearing about more and more in 2012. >> the basis of 2010 basically, talking about people absolutely freaked-out about the future of this country and economy and where it will go. one of the things that registers most closely with voters is outsourcing. they're freaked-out about outsourcing. congress has tried to deal with it in tax incentive ways and they failed and one of those motivating issues you would think they would jump on. >> blanche lincoln was able to win the democratic primary by talking about outsourcing, one of the deep interest in this primary and talking about reckless fiscal scal spending and obama prospecting the

deficit projected to be 1$1.4 trillion. the number one buyer of our debt is japan and the second largest is chinese. >> the real problem, talking about losing our manufacturing base, the fact is there no debate and has not been a debate for a quarter century. free trade is no longer an economic theory, free trade is a religion. if you don't completely digest the concept of complete and total free trade as preached by the priests of wall street. you are a herre tick burned at the state. when blanche lincoln starts talking about outsourcing, you will get editorials talking about the irrational fears of middle americans prejudiced and hate this and hate that. no, it is a reality. americans realize. it was the same thing going into nafta. we can have debates going into

nafta, a lot of americans knew they would lose their jobs and what happened? they lost their jobs! >> in ohio, basically, whole communities have been uprooted. when a plant closes in a community in ohio, it affects not just the people working at the plant but the whole community. to have them go through this experience in the past five, six, seven years, where wages stayed the same and jobs left the country, not surprising they took it out in interesting new political i wases. >> you rip up a factory, pull it out of a town, the whole town die, all these conservative value, the towns are knit together, go to textile plants in louisiana, shut down, and women in louisiana, their home and talk about their kids, i go there and the place is shut down, they're crying in the street, move it to mexico to get a little bit of advantage, then goes to china. they don't understand uprooting

of these communities tears apart a society, nothing conservative about it. >> not just louisiana. drive through new england. the one lasting image of new england for me, as you go through connecticut and rhode island, 14% unemployment last time i went through there. shuttered factories. you see them everywhere. a broken, broken window in a factory should be the image of new england, the industry. >> with that backdrop, we have really really hotly contested races. in their first televised face-off, former wrestling ceo, linda mcmahon last night accused long time democrat, richard blumenthal of being on the government payroll his whole life and therefore not understanding what it takes to create jobs. blumenthal in turn blasted mcmahon as a greedy corporate executive who put profits ahead of people and the most heated

was about the most recent attack ads. last night, before the debate, mcmahon hit him. >> i'm linda mcmahon and i approved this message. >> would you lie about serving in a war? >> we have learned something very important since the days i served in vietnam. i served in vietnam. >> dick blumenthal lied again and again. >> when we returned, we saw nothing of this gratitude. >> he covered one lie with another. >> since the days i served in vietnam. >> if he lied about vietnam, what else is he lying about? >> that's a tough ad. >> that forced blumenthal once again to address the issue last night. >> i'm proud of my military service. on a few occasions out of hundreds when i comments on it i described it inaccurately. i regret it. i take full responsibility for it.

it was not intentional but that is no excuse. i want to say that i am sorry. particularly to our veterans an most especially to the veterans of vietnam. >> all right. >> pat, how did he handle that? >> if it was not intentional, he should have dropped that. other than that, he handled it the only way i could. i'm proud of my service, i misspoke and i'm sorry. >> this race is much closer than anybody thought it would be. blumenthal up just three points from the quinnipiac poll. and democrats are going in and that ad was devastating when that news came out. i heard from individualed indi state of connect and resonated with them and she packaged that in a smart ad to level this final blow to blumenthal. >> i think in the end, blumenthal will win this. i think the biggest danger for

democrats, they're having to worry about it now. >> i'm more bullish on blumenthal than everyone else here. >> think he will win but this is an unneeded distraction for democrats. >> when they initially push this issue with this service, a couple months ago, ending his senatorial campaign, it didn't. for them to resuscitate it now, lacks a certain thing because they've gone to it now. there was that three point margin but yesterday one showed him at 12, he had 53% favorability ratings and 39% unfavorable. she was exactly the reverse. 53% unfavorable. there's not enough time for her to close that gap. >> you run that ad, has a lot of money. >> my point, if that charge was being aired for the first time as october surprise, that would move. >> let me move quickly because willie looks bored in new york. can we bring you in here

quickly? you are from all accounts, from what you told mika and me off-camera, you're a veteran of the first gulf war. >> korea. >> how do you think talking about that will impact somebody? it has a certain resonance, doesn't it? would you lie about your war record, dick blumenthal. what about the band of brothers from the first gulf war think about it? >> i certainly wouldn't lie about it. sam said a couple months ago said this is a death blow, he can't survive this and here he is in some polls up by 12, 13 points. it didn't hit him the way we thought it did. i will say about linda mcmahon, when she first came out, won her primary, she's kind of a joke w will she come out in the feather bowas, and randy savage. she kept her head down and kept the right message and avoided the wrestling stuff successfully. not sure it will do her any good at the end of the day. >> randy macho man savage,

willie, you continue to amaze me. >> sam knows what i'm talking about. >> i just want to point out a democrat e-mailed me yesterday in that poll, 60% said they didn't care about blumenthal and vietnam and 60% said he's honest and trustworthy. they're trying to make the case they tested this. >> she has done an amazing job recouching herself as someone who has this weird industry and -- >> that ad is searing. it is. not overdone. >> buchanan has to love the fact she dropped it the morning of the first debate. >> sure. >> you have to get to the rest of the story. we'll do it later. it's about her wanting to lower the minimum wage. i believe she didn't know what it was. coming up, hide-and-seek candidates, "politico" has the scoop on an apparent new trend where candidates seem to be hiding from voters and looking

to run out the clock until november. interesting. rahm emanuel gets his hands dirty as he kicks off his listening tour. oh, people. i'm serious! there was no shortage of -- he shook hands with people, oh, people! >> i don't do that. seriously, i don't do that to many people. there is one person who is just filthy. >> i'm the same way. >> he does his weather forecast and comes down and his little grubby hands come to shake you. it's actually bill karins we're talking about. what a coincidence. >> it's good you talk at the same time. i can ignore you all at the same time. >> ah! >> let's chat about this forecast this morning. good morning, everyone. washington d.c. will see a pretty dry day. you will be okay there. from philly, northward, another

gloomy umbrella day, drizzles and showers and syracuse and rochester, tracking heavy rains about to move to downtown boston, if you're heading out the door from boston to providence or that 495 loop, you could get into isolated downpours to slow you down. airport delays likely from new york to hartford to providence. cold, only 51 degrees today in pittsburgh. tomorrow, more of the same in new england and slowly improve on thursday. the rest of the country, gorgeous weather today in the middle of the nation and nice from texas to florida. enjoy. you're watching "morning joe," brewed by starbucks.

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you can tell outside a nip of autumn. you can tell it's autumn in the air, huh? you can tell it's officially autumn. well over the weekend, the new york mets went into hibernation. >> welcome back to "morning joe." time now to take a look at the morning paper. >> speaking of the mets -- go ahead. >> all right. "washington times." after months of fretting over tea party powered republican enthusiasm, democrats say they're seeing signs their supporters are getting reverend up just in time to close the so-called enthusiasm gap by november 2nd. >> "usa today" tells a different story, gallup analysis, the huge enthusiasm advantage of republicans before the elections. among likely voters, republicans have a double digit lead in two separate scenarios for voter turnout. the "washington post" tells a different story we'll get to.

>> seattle times. former nba player was known for defensive play and poor shooting but mounting a strong challenge to democrats, 23 year grip on the governor's office. dudley has a narrow lead over his democrat opponent. >> the washington post talks about democrats making slight gains in the house. >> wow. >> back and forth. i think it's tightening, though. >> we'll see. >> definitely. >> willie will do "politico." let's give him something to do. he's playing jacks up there. >> tell us more stories, willie. >> good for chris dudley in oregon. smart guy, terrible foul shooter. 25%, something like that. i'm shocked. we will go to "politico." shocked you actually did this column. the executive editor of "politico." look at the playbook. hey, jim.

>> hey, guys, how you doing? >> we're doing great. you pulled off a miracle. we heard the news. >> trust me. >> we heard the news you signed up joe to write the regular op-ed for "politico." we know joe, he's a busy man. he took a crack at the first one and reading an excerpt what joe wrote in part for his day pew. in 2008, obama impressed many republicans i met on the campaign trail with his promise to bring a more mature post partisan style to washington. in 2010, gallup's polls show him to be the most polarizing president in modern history. it's come to this. obama's campaign themes of hope and change have evolved into a nasty brutish off-year campaign message that is mixing its message in a way that won't save democrats in 2010 and may have a profound effect on obama's brand moving forward. >> what do you think? >> i think he nails it on the head as far as one of obama's

problems. he did run as a different kind of candidate promising a new different style of politics an what voters have seen is most big legislation going through on party lines and sharply negative campaign at the end and adds to brand confusion for what obama's trying to do. this coupled with the economic problems he inherited and persists are the reasons democrats are in a lot of trouble and the polls you just highlighted in "usa today" and washington times are probably the most accurate in that they capture the enthusiasm gap and who's likeliest to turn out. i think that this is most real deficit people should be looking at. >> i want to get your analysis, joe, how long did it take louisberg dolouis be bergdove ff to write that colu? >> a couple days.

employed a couple monkeys and whoever edited it, a couple more monkeys to chop it up. thank you for your patience. the bigger point, he was a candidate of hope and change. i was struck, the "new york times" last sunday said the lead story obama has run the most negative campaign in recent history, focusing on tax liens and all those other things. my point was things have gotten very ugly in washington d.c. and been ugly a very long time. his brand of hope and change worked pretty well in '08 and will probably work well in 2012. >> by their thoughts, they have phenomenal achievement. first health care plan in 50 years and two supreme court justices and tax liens and divorce proceedings and all these things and a low level campaign going suggests they're

not proud of what they're doing. >> because they knew that the base was not motivated, wanted to see a fight towards the end of the elections and leaked the fact they would get nasty in the campaigns. >> what does that tell you, sam, about their achievement. >> the most damming line of the "new york times" piece, willie will bring it back up. the most damming line was the fact they were doing this to distract people from obama and the democratic party's legislative record. that was a pretty stunning oh admission. >> it was. >> one of the things we were i talking about in "politico," a disturbing trend on the campaign trail. candidates basically hiding out from voters. what's going on? >> we are, seeing it in nevada and pennsylvania, a lot of races, nevada and house race and senate race in wisconsin, you're seeing less and less of the candidate in debates, seeing less of them in public forum, fewer in town halls, anywhere they're in an improvisational

setting, part of it is because a lot of republicans, especially tea party candidates who have gotten in trouble before speaking from the hip, they're basically trying to do the four corner stall and run out the clock because they have a decent lead and don't want to have any gaffes to hurt that. and in pennsylvania, saying listen, i don't want to be out there telling people where i will be and have a camera in my face all the time and i want to avoid it. >> he said, i don't want nuts to hit me welcome a camera and won't arm my opponents with a baseball bat. still to come, house majority leader, john boehner, advice for democrats, what he's saying across the aisle. jon stewart finally gets a chance to respond to rick sanchez, fired for calling "the daily show" host a bigot, not fired for that part but other stuff he said. we'll see who got the last laugh. tom brady rolls into south beach

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live shot of washington d.c., as the sun comes up over the nation's capitol this morning. welcome back to "morning joe." we're live at the d.c. bureau at nbc. rahm emanuel hit the streets to hear from chicago from city residents in blunt and honest terms what they want from their next mayor. according to the chicago tribune, he got what he asked for. at a stop at a restaurant, some tried to stop him blaming him for the lack of jobs on the southside and this not so flattering moment, "after finishing his opening round of casual meet and greets, emanuel hopped into a dodge caravan in which he could be seen vigorously sanitizing his hands

in plain view of television cameras and reporters. he is getting flak for the video used to kick off his mayoral campaign. in the video, he says, quote he was born here, but not accurate since it was filmed in washington d.c. they point that out since his rivals are challenging his residency and his right to run will hinge on where his home is. >> how do you vigorously sanitize? when you're really going at it? >> doing that. >> i don't use that stuff. >> i've used it. >> makes you weaker. >> after the shook my hands, i liq them. >> i like campaigning. >> i like people. >> he looked kind of strange out there, didn't he? very exposed. >> where's the front page? here's the front page of the "new york times." he puts his hand out, she's like, who are you?

i don't want to shake your hand. >> oh, nora. >> the caption goes on to say, once she recognized him, she shook his hand. he was devastated. >> i'm not knocking raum at all. i can tell you, it is very very tough to go out and do that. i can't imagine how tough it would be going from being chief of staff to suddenly the next day, being thrown out in the streets of chicago and shaking hands. >> yes. >> i think if i were raum, i think i would stop looking like i was still at the white house and take off the jacket and roll up the shirt sleeves. >> a new "washington post" poll shows with exactly four weeks left before the mid-term elections. >> do you think he still does yoga? if he still does yoga -- >> i don't like the mental picture. >> he did that earlier, pictures of him with a yoga mat. >> no, stop? >> what would i do if i was rahm emanuel, i'd take off my jacket, eating a lot more, i do naturally, gain a little bit of

weight. not look so fit. i know obama is from chicago and fit and everything. margaret carlson's line, eat the damn donut. >> well, that's true. >> but if he's doing yoga and i'm running against him in chicago, i'm letting everybody know rahm emanuel does yoga. >> i'd learn polish. >> the guys that look like this are the guys that win in chicago? >> you are part polish. >> yes. i have a lot of it. >> the political landscape remains strongly tilted towards republicans however democrats have cut in half the republicans early september advantage. this is formid-terms. among likely voters, republicans hold a 6 point edge, 49% to 43%. yesterday, john boehner speculated what the democrats need to do to hold the house. >> they're desperate to make this election about anything other than themselves. this is a ref ren dumb on their

job killing policies, cap and trade, health care bill, financial regulatory or stimulus bill, they have to make it about something other than themselves. >> if i were at home watching this show, seen the "washington times" say the poll is tightening, the "washington post" says it's tightening, usa says it's going further apart, does it matter? does the generic ballot matter in an off-year election? >> these are individual races and those polls matter well more in what we're looking at broad landscape. i do think this abc-"washington post" poll shows good signs for democrats. the problem is there's not much time left. >> we also tried to talk about here, it's not a homogenousnized country, different regions, doing badly in the south and

still shocked russ feingold is losing. boxer blowing them away, jerry brown doing great in california, patty murray doing well in washington. >> all had a 15 point lead. >> and o'malley in maryland has a 10 point lead over ur lich, a good candidate. >> a lot of blowouts, very few close races by the end. >> time for a look at sports and for that, we turn to willie geist. >> mika, monday night football. only one name for these highlights, patrick chung. patriots taking on division rival, miami, down there in south beach. patriots down 7-6 at halftime. brandon tate fields it three yards deep and goes 103 yards for the touchdown. brandon tate, the other one. 13-7, the rest of the game belongs to patrick chung, a huge day for him.

tlr third quarter, blocks a punt that set up a patriots touchdown and he blocks a field goal attempt and his teammate, arrington picks up the ball for a touchdown and patriots take on a 20 point lead. remember, down one point at halftime. patrick chung on defense gets help from poor quarterbacking by chad henne and patriots blow out dolphins, 41-13 with a 45 point second half. with last night's victory, tom brady didn't have to do much. special teams did all the work. he becomes the fastest quarterback to get to over 100 wins. doing it only in 131 games. yesterday was the last day of ryder cup play, had bad weather there. looking to make up ground and did it with the help of tiger

woods. his approach at the 12th pole. didn't even know it goes in. yes. ball rolls in. americans battle back from big wins including one from tiger woods, only three holes to play, one singles match holding to a one up lead, graeme mcdowell, up two. still had a chance. hunter may h hunter, flubbing a chip. misses by inches and europe wins, first time since '91, the ryder cup was decided by a singles match. hunter mahan, the guy who flubbed the chip got a little emotional. >> that birdie on 16 after i got it down was huge. he just beat me. >> getting emotional. coming up next, christine

o'donnell has a new ad. never a good day in a political campaign when you have to declare you are not a witch. willie, can we go back to the press conference for one second? all right? >> yeah. >> i want to talk to this young man tearing up. seriously, it's just a game. sure, he let down his team and he let down his country. >> god. >> in the end, willie, it's just a game. >> well, we are a fading empire and he holds himself responsible. hard to argue with him after that performance yesterday. >> seriously, why cry about it? he will be remembered. in history books. >> as the crybaby. >> not as a crybaby. willie, that may have been a defining moment for our fading empire. >> that's right. >> and pat is going to put it in a chapter in his next book. >> the sun has set. well that's great.

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i'm not a witch. i'm nothing you've heard. i'm you. none of us are perfect, but none of us can be happy with what we see all around us. politicians who think spending, trading favors and back room deals are the ways to stay in office. i'll go to washington and do what you'd do. i'm christine o'donnell. and i approved this message. i'm you. >> i'm you. >> i mean, seriously, seriously, if you're not a witch, why is everything in black there? okay. one of those vampire movies. >> i'm serious, whoever lit that, whoever put the dark backdrop in there. >> parody. >> it had to be -- a serious point here. what you want to do is put her in the red, have a light

background, that is a grim -- it seems to me, pat, the thing she has going for her, she has always been bubbly, despite all the mistakes, there has always been a joy about her. that is a grim commercial. >> they're countering what is a growing narrative about her. >> yeah. >> they made her be calm, made her try to connect. >> she's an attractive young girl and sincere. >> woman, pat, woman. she's over 40! can i drag you out of 1950 for once? >> she looks like she's just out of junior high school, come on! when you get to the simplicity of the message and just her, that's by the backdrop is stunning. >> i'm not a witch, pat, you didn't fall for it, did you? >> i'm not a witch, i'm you. >> what if i was a witch. >> she has that vote locked up. >> i have interviewed witches,

actually. >> how bad is it you go from nixon in '73 to i am not a crook to 2010, i am not a witch. >> it's natural progression. >> comes full circle. >> interesting public relations advice at play in that commercial. >> there's also another take on there. i am not a witch, i am you. what some people will say about tea party candidates including christine o'donnell, she is a no candidate, i'm not this, not a witch but not laid out a comprehensive plan. >> i foreclosed on my home, just like you, i have lost a job, just like you. >> have not been employed since 2004. >> seriously. that's a telling message. >> my first date in high school was on a satanic altar. >> while we're on this subject, let's move to sharron angle.

what are the angle tapes? new tapes came out? >> they taped her. a meeting with sharron angle, a private meeting, she didn't know she was being taped, talked to him about leaving the race and in return, help him get juice with major conservative senators in the senate. he's not leaving the race, actually doubling down and milking this for all its worth. she's trashing the republican party on tape. >> chris just tells me he has these tapes. play them, chris.

>> what's the fall-out of this? >> i don't know if there's much fall-out except for the fa fact -- which wasn't played there, she was trying to get this guy to leave the race so she can get his votes. i don't know if there's anything wrong with that. >> you say juice, she was going to get the guy? >> a vague reference to meetings or power or proximity. >> get out of the race. >> she'd take care of him. >> the idea some guy is

wiretapping her on one side, i think there should be a reaction against that. >> ion if there was a wiretap but recording device. >> that is sleazy. >> a third party candidate. >> isn't that against the law? >> my understanding the third party candidate is identified as the tea party candidate on the ballot. there is some polling that suggests and strategists i talked to said some of these third party candidate in nevada are drawing 5, 7, 8% of the vote and could be the margin of difference. >> in nevada, the big issue is you can put none of the above on your ballot. reid's people want that number to go up. >> isn't the indictment of the majority leader in the u.s. senate praying people will vote for none of the above instead of the guy that got us health care? >> i was going to say, seriously the story of this nevada race is how unpopular harry reid is in

his own state. the fact this race is still a competitive race in october against sharron angle, this candidate shows seriously he is loathed in that state, loathed. >> it's in a bad place. unemployment is well over 14%. >> in terrible shape. interesting grooming.

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let me tell you, as party, its put up or shut up time for the republican party. we lost our way a number of years ago, we did. we became tax and spend light.

and, you know, if the people of america want taxers and spenders, they will vote for democrats every time because they're much better at it than we are. they vote for us, they vote for republicans because we stand for those four qorei gan principles, less spending, smaller government, less regulation, lower taxes. >> welcome back to "morning joe." top of the hour. >> did chris christie make you -- >> put up or shut up. >> he is focused on four economic issues, this smart thing to do. >> he says, it's put up or shut up time. it is for the republican party. if they get in charge again, will they do what nay did before? >> sounds like it was a great speech. a full hour ahead of us. pat buchanan and norah o'donnell, author of "baby love," great book. and "new york times," jeff. nice to have you on board, jeff.

>> you look at the "washington times" and "washington post," they both are leading with stories, talking how the races are tightening, "usa today" says it's not tightening, republicans are gaining advantage. you read the story for the times, lead story, you're seeing evidence out there democrats are making gains in some races. >> i think that's true. at this point, republicans had hoped to put away that first tier of candidates and move onto the second tier of vulnerable democrats. it's not been as easy for them. september was a month democrats held on in some respects. when you're a democratic incumbent, 42 in the polls holding on, probably at the top of your gain. republicans are trying to manage expectations and the chief of rnc says democrats will at least lose functional control of the

house. i don't know what that means. lose functional control. >> i read the headline, functional control. >> i was wondering sunday, is this part of the republican plan to down play expectations? if they pick up 38 seats, it's not a massive loss. people started to say democrats will lose 50 seats, 60 seats, dick more miss h dick morris has it up to 80 seats. >> if it's true, it will be a republican year. they have not managed their expectations. boehner has been worried about it all year long and trying to manage expectations and trying to get other republicans to do it. maybe too late to put the genie back in the bottle. >> there wastitening last week a -- tightening in the poll and see it in the pathologist po"wa

poll. republicans still have a 20 point advantage and no question enthusiasm gap has closed. the mood is still horrible for democrats. i think the way strategists frame it to me, the difference between a tsunami or hurricane, hurricane cat 4 or cat 5 for democrats. >> on top of that, you look at the fact republicans, as nora picked up, are 20 points ahead of independents, a group that went for barack obama just two years ago. add to the fact every off-year election, voters are older and wider. it all works against the democrats, just because that's the trend. that's a historic trend. >> obama won and minorities came out very strong, african-americans 13%, young the highest they ever voted and republicans in malaise and now

they're not coming out and why obama is doing rock concerts just before his speeches. >> in madison, wisconsin, is that a real accomplishment that the president -- >> and sam stein was saying he had 30,000 because you get the national opening up. you get the national playing, it's a band, guys, get the national opening up for the president in madison, they will come. >> they will come. >> each one of those people is also given an early vote certificate to get an early voting ballot. pennsylvania, the president is going there sunday, going to columbus, ohio. some of these places, i think, if there happens to be a democratic house member in trouble, which there is in each one of those place, it could help. >> look at the senate, russ feingold in wisconsin. we don't understand why and, of course, conservatives, i'll tell you why he's losing, we don't understand by a guy like russ feingold is losing in wisconsin.

pennsylvania, where the president is going, pat toomey, over 50%, running away with that race. ohio. portman, comfortably ahead in ohio as well. these midwest states. interesting the house races do seem to be tightening up from everything we're hearing but senate races in the midwest, republicans seem to be expanding their lead. >> there are separate reasons for each one. in ohio, lee fisher does not have the money to put an add on television. rob portman probably the most vulnerable republican candidate in terms of trade and other issues, part of the bush administration. russ feingold, i was in wisconsin in august, wisconsin state fair with him. i thought this whole thing was a lot of washington talk he was in trouble. he is in trouble. he knows it. he's always been viewed more as maverick here than there. it's tough for him and he may not be able to turn this around. we'll see. >> let's talk about connecticut. that race is another race. >> you know who has money for

tv, linda mcmahon? >> lots of it. >> she used it right before the debate in their first televised face-off, former wrestling ceo, linda mcmahon accused long time democrat richard blumenthal being on the government payroll his whole life and not understanding what it takes to create jobs. >> blumenthal blasted mcmahon who put profits ahead of people and the most heated was the recent attack ads. mcmahon released this ad before the debate, of blumenthal over distortion of his vietnam service record. >> i'm linda mcmahon and i approved this message. >> would you lie about serving in a war? >> we have learned something very important since the days i served in vietnam, i served in vietnam. >> he lied again and again. >> when we returned, we sought

nothisought -- saw nothing of this gratitude. >> he covered one lie with another. >> since the days i served in vietnam. >> if he lied in vietnam, what else is he lying about? >> that forced blumenthal to once again address the issue last night during the debate. >> i'm proud of my military service. on a few occasion, out of hundreds when i commented on it, i described it inaccurately. i regret it. i take full responsibility for it. it was not intentional. but that is no excuse. and i want to say that i am sorry. particularly to our veterans and most especially to the veterans of vietnam. >> all right. so mcmahon hit back on a blumenthal ad that says she's looking to lower the minimum wage. take a look. >> the first thing, let me say categorically that is wrong and absolutely false and incorrect in this ad i would consider reducing the minimum wage. that's a lie.

you know that's a lie. i never said it and it's in your ad, and, boy, that's just wrong. let's take that off the table. mr. blumenthal and i actually shared the same thought relative to raising the minimum wage. we both said we need to take a look at it. he knows that's wrong. i never said that in an interview but it made it into the ad real quick. >> according to the latest polls, blumenthal is ahead of mcmahon. public policy polling has him up 53-41% but quinnipiac has blumenthal leading by a much smaller margin, 49-46%. >> let me ask you about some of these states in play we've been talking about for democrats. we heard after the 2008 election the age of aquarius is upon us. they're going to be fighting in the state senate races that will be democratic. but now you have democrats on the offensive and losing in

pennsylvania, losing in wisconsin, tied in illinois with two candidates, you just never know when the other shoe will drop on either one of them. connecticut, democrats on the offensive there. on the senate side, not a good battlefield for democrats. >> it's not at all. there is this east of the mississippi, west of the mississippi phenomenon. perhaps it's the economy. that doesn't explain california, why is barbara boxer doing better? >> california has swung decidedly democratic over the past several weeks. >> it has. if this is going to be a change election, that's the easiest way to characterize it. in california, there is a change mindset going on from arnold and republicans maybe to democrats. it's not playing out in the senate race. barbara boxer has run a good senate race. she knew she would have a tough campaign, always does. >> what about in washington

state, patty murray is looking surprisingly strong? >> she is looking pretty strong. she issued a tough campaign, raised a lot of money, on the air. that one is not finished by any stretch of the imagination. washington has almost an entirely early vote. almost 80, 90% of the ballots are mailed in. look for the enthusiasm gap for republicans there to be -- to really make a difference maybe. >> i heard yesterday, probably in either california or specifically washington state, we could be waiting a week after the election to find out the results. there could be some time in that because of the massive mail-in ballot that happens in washington state. we are witnessing this divide in west coast, democrats doing better, east coast, they seem to be doing very poorly. that particular mcmahon ad on blumenthal is searing. democrats said they tested this don't think it's as powerful as it should be. they have focus folks in that

quinnipiac poll not concerned about blumenthal's mischaracterization of his record. >> i think it's permanently wounding if he wants a national career. it's devastating. i don't know if it will take him out, whether the double digit poll is correct or single digit poll. you have three u.s. seats democra they need and if they don't get that, they don't get the senate, do you? >> out of 12 competitive seats they need 10 of them, can only lose two. pretty quite margin. >> we also have, speaking of politics, a name emerging. >> yes. >> one of your friends. >> may be polling up in new hampshire. you talked to donald trump the other day. he vigorously denied taking polls in new hampshire to see whether he could be elected president. >> he thinks he could be elected president. >> of course he does.

>> they like him in new hampshire. >> i think he needs to make changes with his business practice, pageants, i'd get rid of them. otherwise, i think he would be quite good. suck up. >> think he's doing quite well. >> donald trump is denying he's going for a potential proposal bid by the real estate mogul. he is a character. >> that this is walk of a billionaire right there. >> first reported by time and nbc politte kist speculation trump may be considering a run. okay, now. okay! >> if somebody doesn't step up and do something to stop china from draining us, you try and open a business in china, you can't do it. yet they drain us. it's amazing. they take our money and then loan it back to us by buying our bonds. amazing. >> giving that, are you considering stepping into the race? >> i'm not considering it.

it is a great honor, certainly. >> yesterday, trump, however, also spoke with "times" adam sorenson laying out what halpern says sounds a lot like a 2012 platform. trump said, quote, you know he's just toying with us. stop. this is ridiculous. >> i love the man, abraham lincoln of our time. >> pat buchanan. >> he will be on the show in a few minutes. i'm calling him. >> his message is your message in effect. >> economic nationalism will go over big in new hampshire. very big. i'm not sure what their economy is. that's what helped me in '92 against the president of the united states. >> actually, new hampshire is not doing too badly. >> if donald goes up there, i advise him, put on sidearms,

too, they like people that bring their guns. >> did you bring your guns with you to new hampshire? >> no. i told them i kept them in washington. >> that's probably good. probably good. >> crazy. we'll be talking to him in a few minutes. he will call in and taub about the trump card. arianna huffington stopping by, chuck todd is here as well and we should check in with bill karins for a look at the forecast. bill. >> good morning, mika. we are watching airport delays of about 30 minutes. just showers, maybe a downpour or two. overall, grab the umbrella, philly, new york, hartford, boston, even pittsburgh, a chance of showers. here's how your forecast breaks down. you chose wisely going to d.c. today. no rain for you. everyone else has to deal with

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them thomas i am serious. i've seen what's happened. i've seen polls come out that say i'd win and obviously before

i did it, i'd have to make sure i could win. you have the democrats too far left, republicans too far right. i think i'm somewhere right down the middle. i just think it's something we need. we need spirit in this country and we don't have it. >> welcome back to "morning joe." live look at washington d.c. the sun is up over the monuments. that was donald trump, in 1999, considering a proposal run, as the reform party candidate, a move he eventually decided against. now, nearly 10 years later, it is "the donald." the question is, is he willing to give it another try. joining us on the phone, donald trump. a lot of people are writing donald about now being the time for a third party. >> donald, we'll get to the nice stance about are you going to run or not going to run. let's first talk about the issues. what should proposal candidates be talking about in 2012?

what is the main issue? >> i think the biggest issue is this country is being treated unfairly and very badly by our so-called friends, like china and like other countries, i won't mention. china this is biggest culprit by far in my opinion. other countries. they view us as having foolish and stupid leadership. i deal with these people. i make deals with them. they can't believe what they're getting away with. i think the lifeblood is being sucked out of us by opec, where you have a small group of men, in this case, all men, sitting around a table and they set the price of oil. oil just hit over $80 a barrel again yesterday because there's any time there's any sign of hope for the economy, they sit around and raise the price of oil by 5 dollars a barrel. amazingly, there's more oil than they know what to do with .

ships out at sea and so much oil they don't know what to do with it. these people have an illegal monopoly. if you and i did it in a business, we'd be put in jail. we can get back to the country. what's happening, outside forces are destroying this country. we're rebuilding china because everything we make is made in china and other places but in china. china, the chinese people that i know, they tell me, we can't believe we're getting away with it. the valuation of their currency is ridiculous. you can't compete with it. and i was telling people the other day, i was ordering windows for a building, a lot of them. so many bids come in from china, everyone wants to go china -- by the way, their product isn't nearly as good as pella and lots of other good companies in our country bud har wht hard when y

country like at the olympics, the voice of the youthful young girl wasn't her and the gymnasts at the olympics, no, they're not under-age an it turned out to true. we're rebuilding china. you get to the wars, lose lives, spend billions of dollars, build a school, build a road and build everything and then the enemy comes and blows it up. in the meantime, we can't build our own roads and our own schools. we have a great man, chris christie. he will tell you look at the roads going into manhattan, the most important city in the world in my view, they're all crumbling, yet we're building roads in iraq and all over the place. iraq has $12 trillion of oil under their ground. >> it's fascinating you talk about crumbling roads going into new york city. dr. brzezinski went to china, flew back into washington and he said, when he landed in

washington, it was like he was going back 50 years from what he saw in china. you say the chinese believe and other people in the world believe, i heard this, they do, we have quote foolish and stupid leaders for letting them get away with what they get away with. explain that. >> they tell me this. they have dinners and they drink hand i don't because i'm not a drinker. they drink and say things and maybe frankly they say things they shouldn't be saying, it doesn't matter, we all know it's true. they say, we cannot believe what we're getting away with. your people are stupid that are leading your country. today in the wall street journal, i'm read writing our businesses are being investigated because they're paying off foreign governments in order to get business. let the foreign governments investigate our businesses. why are we going to put our businesses in jail because they're paying off foreign governments? wouldn't you think the foreign governments should be doing

that, not us? we can investigate our own people paying off our own officials. these people are trying to get business probably in corrupt companies. we're investigating, year going to put them in jail for doing this. i'm not using that as a big example but one of many examples. i'll give you another one. this is one that really hits home. when iraq took over kuwait, we went into kuwait, we spent lives, lives and billions and billions of dollars and we took kuwait back. the sheikhs that run kuwait. that own kuwait, they don't run it, they own it, have total lock, stock and barrel ownership of cu way. they left their london hotels an suites an entire building, not like you would take a suite, nice one bedroom suite, they took the whole building. they went back, joe, into kuwait, handed the country back and now if you go to the kuwait fund, one of the largest funds

in the world and say, we have a deal we want to do in the united states, they will go, no, no, no, we do not like the potential of the united states. we do not like investing in the united states, we want to invest -- we want to invest where there's more growth opportunity. we handed this back to them. now, if we handed it back, why didn't they pay us? we put out all their fires. sudan hussein blew out all their oil wells, we put the oil wells back and never got 10 cents. why didn't we get paid? >> donald, we will go around the table for questions and see whatever accents you take on. political advice, i'd leave the accents to others. pat buchanan. >> what other things would you have the president or congress do to make it a more level playing field with the chinese, what would you do? >> first thing i would do, we have great business people in this country, better than anybody. i would name you 10 people i won't do now, 10 brutal killers

smarter than anybody. there's a group. you read about them and hear about them and do their thing and do it effectively many years, the first thing i'd do is get rid of the stupid diplomats representing us that don't have a clue other than being nice and put in some of our killers against their killers, i'll bet on ours every time. we don't have the proper people representing us. when china sends its people over, they're sending brutal tough negotiators and we have, you know, characters i don't want to name personally because it's not appropriate but we don't have the kind of representation that we need. these are very smart, very sharp people. they're stripping our country. they're stripping. you try -- joe, you try and do business in china. impossible, yet they come here and they dump so much crap, whether it's sheetrock that's poisoning our -- you see, sheetrock, forever you bought

chinese sheetrock, it's destroying the lives of people. i don't know if you've been hearing about that. the same with glass and windows. they're dumping all this stuff on us. then they go out and loan us back our money by buying bonds. we pay them interest. >> thank you very much for that. you sound frustrated, sound extremely convincing about what you think is wrong, donald. you talk about foolish stupid leaders. do you want to get into the conversation or actually get into the political game? >> there's a lot to get in the conversation about. one thing i was thinking about this morning, i'm building a big building in panama. it's doing nicely. the reason it's doing nicely is brilliant lin one of the great business deals of all time, not to knock one person, let's go to somebody else, jimmy carter gave away the panama canal for 1 dollar, he gave it away. it cost us so much in terms of lives. >> stop. >> he gave it away, the country

totally thriving, now building a new panama canal they're doing so well. i say that's okay, wouldn't it be nice if perhaps they paid our country something? when you say, what can we do? when can we do it? we have to appoint the right people. >> that wasn't an answer to my question. >> i know. i'm trying to avoid your question. >> oh, okay. that's nice. thank you for the offer of the ride yesterday. it's very nice to talk to you today. but it would be good if you could answer the question on "morning joe" at some point when you feel like it. >> i can tell you -- i can tell you this -- i can tell you this j mika. for the first time in my life, i've had so many people over the years ask me to do that. and for the first time in my life, i am absolutely thinking about it. i don't know that i'll do it. it's probable i won't do it but i can tell you, i'm thinking about it. somebody has to do something. we are losing this country. this country will not be great if something isn't done rapidly.

pat buchanan has a lot of good answers. >> how much did the poll cost, the answer poll? let me take one. donald? >> are you asking me about the poll? i know nothing about the poll. somebody took a poll because they heard me on shows like this where i talk about what's happening to this country and somebody took a poll in new hampshire and guess what? the results were very positive for trump. but i know nothing about the poll, joe. >> donald, thank you so much for being with us. >> i'll talk to you later. >> thank you very much, both. >> donald, donald, i'm wearing a trump tie. >> a beautiful try, it's macy's number one tie in the united states, buy them at macy's, everybody go to macy's now. pat buchanan has great ties also. go to macy's and buy those ties. >> they're great ties.

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rahm emanuel's vacated chief of staff post is being held temporarily by roust. w -- rouse. who has the ability to occupy this important position? you voted. it's betty white. put a tiger in your tank. >> welcome back to "morning joe." we're live in washington. live look at the white house and with us now, nbc news -- >> you were at the white house yesterday. >> yes, i was, joe. >> what were you doing at the white house? >> chuck todd joins us. valerie asked me to moderate a panel to get more on women owned small businesses growing in this country. it was fun. we had a great panel. marie johns from the sba, dr. rebecca blank on the left and teresa daytner runs a construction company, has six kids, runs a huge corporation. her husband works for her and a had to teach him how to ask for

a raise. on the end is bobbi brown of bobbi brown cosmetics, and now the major ceo of a large corporation. >> you did a great job. >> and now the rundown to chuck todd. donald trump for 2012. i know you had your questions for him. he's absolutely thinking about doing it. bloomberg and -- excuse me. i sound like jonathan now. what's the white house thinking on all the possibilities out there two years down the road? >> reporter: on the white house front, i don't think they're thinking much on a third party front. if you probe them for 10 seconds about it. the one thinking about it would assume a third party candidacy would only ensure their reelection. the base of the democratic party for the president would probably

put more states in play. he could probably carry almost the entire south under certain scenarios because of the strength he would have among african-americans in particular. it's one of those things i remember, in 1992, people forget this. one of the calculations some democrats had on bill clinton picking al gore in a southern strategy in a three-way race, the democratic race vote is stronger in the south, thanks to african-americans than anywhere else. you start looking at it by the numbers, any sort of competitive three-way race puts the democrats at an advantage. >> let me ask you, chuck, you put bloomberg into the race as third party candidate, he gets a couple,votes out of new york city would otherwise go to democrats, thick that puts new york in play for republicans. >> reporter: you could put new york in play and the other coast in play, california and maybe

washington state. what i've never understood about the bloomberg candidacy when you sit down and spend five minutes with it. where does he carry states? where can he really get 30% outside of any states that border water? okay. that's a giant -- that's a -- if you're really going to plot this out, that's where you run into trouble. >> not only that, bloomberg won new york city by about 4.5% against an african-american candidate under funded. obama would win new york city in a three-way race with bloomberg. >> you got a great tweet about the financial disparity of gop and dems. how much advantage do republicans have? >> reporter: there are some estimate, i've talked to some republicans this month, think we will see a 40 to 50 to 60 million. not 40 or 14. 40 to 50 to maybe 60 million

dollar advantage in these outside groups. there are no democratic outside groups anywhere close to the financial strength of what karl rove and american crossroads and a couple of these other groups out. what's happening is, there was some doubts among a lot of folks these republican groups could raise the money. michael steele's inability to raise money combined with the fact a bunch of people see republicans having a shot at winning, suddenly, the money is flowing almost freely to these groups. democrats have no answer to this. >> chuck todd, thank you. we will see you on "the daily rundown," right after "morning joe." arianna huffington is next on "morning joe." wall street is getting back on its feet.

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welcome back to "morning joe," live in the nbc news washington bureau chief. girls, girls, we're on the air. i usually have to get the boys to simmer down. joining us, cofounder and editor in chief of the "huffington post," arianna huffington in town for the most powerful women's summit, a great event. >> congratulations on your book, "third world america." >> it hits exactly the tone of -- >> you know -- hold it up, pat. there's the shot. >> my shot. >> pat is smiling. >> it looks like a pat buchanan book. >> it does. i read through it. very interesting. >> can you read it? >> between pat buchanan and donald trump and arianna

huffington, you are saying the same thing, we are losing the middle class. >> we're saying the same thing donald trump said, we're losing the country. if we lose the middle class, you can't have a thriving america without a thriving middle class. >> wise it happening? well -- >> donald said we have foolish and stupid leaders basically giving away our country. >> no question special ins are basically buying public policy. even when good policies pass, then they go there and they undermine it through massive loopholes. you see it happening right now with the financial reform bill. lobbyists are working overtime to undermine any good it was going to do. already, it's dealing with the major systemic too big to fail problem. until we fix that, my only hope in the book is look at what's happening in the communities. it is amazing, this explosion of creativity and innovation.

people actually create their own jobs. gave up applying for jobs and use social media to create jobs. use social media to help each other. at the conference last night, i was talking to warren buffet. he said we have a surplus of talent and time that we need to tap into, that we are not using. that's beyond left and right, right, pat? >> it sure is. what's happening to the middle class is difficult. you have the median wages up and down and overall, flat the last 40 years. >> 5%. >> bill clinton campaigning in new hampshire, you campaigning in new hampshire, talking about how we were losing the middle class. we create 22 million new jobs in the 1990s. so many go away after the dot-com bust. then during the bush era, we create millions and millions of new jobs, they all go away and

all this time, we're losing manufacturing, middle class falling further and further behind. what's happening this past 20 years with boons and busts leaving the middle class holding -- >> not only unemployment, the nature of jobs fellows get when they come back to work, leave good manufacturing jobs as aerospace workers and auto workers and some women as tex still workers and come back and get jobs as waitresses and washi working in bars. the jobs pay less. you're deindustrializing the greatest industrial country the world has ever seen. >> arianna, in your book, what's the answer? >> part of it is we went from a country that makes things, to a country that makes things up. credit default swaps, cdos, the financialization of our economy has meant that instead of having a financial sector, enabling the economy, we have a financial sector which is basically working for itself, become a

casino, trading in toxic derivatives, making great profits but not facilitating the growth of the real economy. what pat said about manufacturing jobs, homer simpson would be a fantasy today. you could not have the homer simpson supporting a family a family with five children on one income. it would be impossible. it doesn't happen. on top of it, you know, all this ways in which, say, credit card companies have offered these teaser rates, people get hooked on them. suddenly, rates skyrocket to 29, 30%, can't pay them. this vicious cycle has meant people have not been able to get out of debt. >> let's talk about fortune's most powerful woman's summit. you and mika will be there, the president speaking later on. what's it all about. about trying to take the conversation of what we bring to the table to the next level. i'll be talking to the women who

run the economy. sheila bair and fdic and christine burney and elizabeth wa warren. who's on your panel? sp >> i'm talking about community solution, the left and right approach everybody can agree on. susy buffet at the conference i'm writing about in the book, she has taken all the money of her foundation and spending it in her backyard in omaha. why do philanthropies all around the country do the same thing, actually begin to treat their own hometowns like they treat their families, whatever the problem is, try to find a creative solution? it's happening. we need to put the spotlight on it and make sure it aksccelerat. >> it should be a great conference. the president is speaking there tonight, should be a big deal and huge turnout tonight. >> book again, "third world

america." >> and "baby love." >> i can say, oh, my book made the "new york times" best-seller. i learned from arianna, you just say, it made the list, in a knowing way. >> thank you. >> lawrence o'donnell will be here. first, willie. what will you denigrate us with next? >> mika, we will turn serious for a moment with a little news you can use. what would you and your family do if confronted on the street by a ninja? uda free lander is here to bring you self-defense techniques that no family would want to miss.

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front. its karate. >> you seem like a mild mannered guy but imreading through this book and you can handle yourself in a fight. >> i'm the world champion, the greatest martial artist in the world. i bought a book that i made called "how to beat up anybody." you will be able to beat up anybody, even if the person you are fighting has already read the book. >> i want to start with a situation all of us can relate to. you are out camping. you ever confronted by big foot. what do you do next? >> when you fight a big foot, never fight foot to foot with the big foot. you have to attack his upper body first. >> squeeze the sides of his brain, is that the first move? >> yes, the big foot's nerve system that controls his feet is on the side of the brain. you weaken the brain first before you go to the foot. most big foots are cool.

they have that 1% that are scumbags. the thing we have got to watch out for is because of deforestation, they are coming out of the woods and into the cities. >> this is almost a greenish u, beating up big foot. >> it is. i am the world champion. i care about the world. these are all things we need to deal with. >> this seems excessive. after you beat him up, you have to dunk on big foot. is that just salt in the wound? >> sometimes you need to physically humiliate a big foot when you fight him. basketball is actually the big foot's national sport, not soccer as people would think, because of the feet. that's actually basketball. >> i didn't realize he had a nation. >> here in new york city, we confront this all the time. street creeps and subway villains, how do we handle them? >> through karate. i also teach self-defense and

self-offense. i have a special chapter for women only where i went undercover as a woman. i powered down to regular female strength. i'm naturally, 7'5". >> is that right? >> yes. but today i sized down to 5'10" so i didn't intimidate you. depending on who you i am fighting, i can make myself shorter or taller. >> we just showed you lording over a ninja that you had just taken down. what's the key to taking down a ninja if you encounter one on the street? >> that's an excellent question. because of the economy, ninja attacks are more common than ever. they always used to fight in groups and train in remote desert communities. because of the economy, they are striking out on their own. in my book, i teach you how to fight them. >> that's amazing. i want to show one of the pictures. it is important to get a good meal in your stomach before you beat people up. that's a pizza sand sfwhich. >> a homemade pizza sandwich

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what is your relationship with the president like? >> we get along fine. >> you don't smoke cigarettes together, do you? >> no the first thing that will happen is i will come in and he will say, baoehner, you are almost as dark as me. we will talk about golf and our skin color. we have a nice relationship. the problem we have is that when we talk to each other, there is no connection. welcome back to ""morning joe."" we are still at the washington bureau here in washington. coming in right now, pat buchanan and norah o'donnell at the desk. joining us in new york which is kind of like a switcharoo. author of the new book

"disintegration, a splintering of black america." that was nora's book that you saw before "disintegration" eugene's is just out. we also have the host of "the last word," lawrence o'donnell. >> oh, my. >> good morning, washington. >> he is here with buchanan. >> the thing about, when we talk, we don't connect, that sounded like buchanan and me. >> it does. >> o thing that brother buchanan helpfully explained to me was that he found out that i did not know this, you only work four days a week. you are like a kansas city school teacher. >> it's show business, joe. i've got the stewart colbert schedule, monday through thursdays. friday is not a work day in showbiz. >> that is a brilliant move. >> does he really have a

four-day week? >> yes. >> what's wrong with us, seriously? >> i am reading the paper. what are we doing wrong? >> tuesday to thursday. >> and then you head out? >> once a congressional guy, always a congressional guy. god help me, lawrence, i have no idea why he agreed to do this but you've got michael steele tonight. >> real charm. >> i get on the phone and i do the booking myself. that's how i got michael steele. >> like levi? >> actually, i have not make a single booking phone call. i have the most energetic bookers in the building with, as you know, the most difficult job, that is, getting people to stay up until 10:00 p.m. and come on and talk to me. michael steele has bravely stepped forward for tonight's show. the only other time michael and i have done tv in my memory,

anyway, is right here on "morning joe." >> has he not seen your show. why did he agree to do it? >> i think he saw my interview with the vice president of the united states, which was conducted in a fully adult style. it took everything i had to do that. he may have also seen my interview with levi johnston and realized that, yes, i do ask some very easy questions that i kind of scale the questions to the ability of the respondent. so i think he has seen the range of what we do on the show. >> eugene, obviously, he knows that lawrence is not a pulitzer prize winner like you. maybe not any reason to be fearful. i want to read a clip from your new book. you say there was a time when there were agreed-upon, quote, black leaders, when there was a clear black agenda, when we could talk confidently about the state of black america.

not anymore. >> why is that? >> well, because black america has become more economically more diverse, geographically more diverse. i would argue socially and culturally more diverse. one thing it hasn't really become is politically more diverse in terms of voting. but in just about every other way, it's not the black america that the unitary, almost black america that you could talk about 50 years ago. i think we talk about black america as if it was still what it used to be, not recognizing its diversity and not really looking at it for what it is. >> so let me ask you this. chances are good if people talk around political tables about black america as being a

monolithic being or movement. maybe that's because politically, as you just said, 90%, 95% of african-americans usually vote for democratic presidential candidates. why is it that black america has become so diverse in so many ways but remains almost unanimously democratic in their political thinking? >> i frankly think that's more the fault of the republican party than anything else. they have got a shot. there are increasing numbers of african-americans who demographically and in any other way, if you look at them on paper, they ought to fit the profile of republican voters, yet beginning with the southern strategy of 1968 and coming

forward, republicans either have not made an effort, a serious effort, to attract the african-american voters or have made an effort to drive them away. maybe that will change someday. i think it would actually be healthy for the community and probably for the country if that changed but until that changes and until the gop gives african-americans some reason to think that the party is on their side and the party is -- wants their support, it's not going to happen. >> did you see mika, this picture, of rahm emanuel, in chicago, sticking the hand out and the lady can looking like rick sanchez on the cnn show. i'm just wondering -- i know at fox, sometimes they have those body language experts. i'm not a body language expert

but that's not a good sign, is it? >> well, look, every politician runs into people who aren't so eager to shake their hands. can i do a follow-up question to help sell books here? i mean it. what would a republican flat form look like if there was -- if it was designed to appeal to the black folks, to peel some black votes away from the democratic party? >> a republican platform that would peel some votes away would seriously address the plight of the group of african-americans that i refer to as the abandon, those that didn't make the leap to the middle class, who didn't climb the ladder while the ladder still had the rungs on it and now the rungs are gone and the distance between them and the group i call the mainstream

which did make the middle class, the gap is growing, i think. so a republican platform that seriously tried to address those problems of dysfunctional neighborhoods and schools and lack of employment opportunities and the fact that there are no rungs to the ladder. there are no ways for people really to pull themselves up the way others did in years past. but i think people would pay attention to that. >> that would be spending on social programs, it sounds like, that republicans generally oppose, democrats favor? >> yeah. and, look, it might be spending on social programs. what it would not be is reflexively rejecting any social programs but saying there might

be good programs or bad programs, ways in which government or the private sector could really go in there and make a big difference. >> all right. so we have a couple things going on that i would love to get lawrence -- >> i wonder if christine o'donnell will be the first person to crack 50% for a statewide candidate among african-american voters. i'm not so sure. she put out a new ad. >> she tells voters in this ad that she -- >> let me be perfectly clear. >> she is positively, absolutely -- >> let me be perfectly clear, i am not a witch. in her first campaign ad, she pokes fun at comments she made during a 1999 appearance during bill maher's politically incorrect. >> i am not a witch. i am nothing you have heard. i'm you. none of us are perfect but none of us can be happy with what we

see all around us. politicians who think spending, trading favors and back room deals are the ways to stay in office. i'll go to washington and do what you would do. i'm christine o'donnell and i approve this message. i'm you. >> so that's perfect. nora says here is the deal. she is not a witch but that was crafted and she is spooky. the ad was launched on the same day. >> that was spooky. >> i'm you. >> it was so like clearly a pr team had sat her down and said, tone it down, speak softly, speak to the camera and connect, please. >> let's go to her face right now. pat buchanan, what do you think? >> you like it? >> because y'all don't think it is effective. i think.

>> parens are namericans are no stupid. >> there are a lot, i would say, women in delaware who are looking at this, who have seen this girl mocked and ridiculed. >> she is a 41-year-old woman. she is not a girl. >> that's what i am talking about. it's right here, it's right here. >> nora, nora -- >> i will defend her. >> zoom in on nora and say, i'm you and connect. >> i am not a witch. i'm you. >> she won't even do it. >> she is wearing a dark suit, a dark backdrop. the light on her face, she almost looks paler than she is. the "i'm you" message can connect. i'm you, i can't pay my bills, i've within foreclosed on. starting an ad with i'm not a witch -- >> she is looking like the people of delaware, their men

and women who has been hammered. >> you are playing the palin card. >> that is not a mama grizzly. >> palin plays that card and christine o'donnell plays that card, i'm the candidate of the agrieved. it works to some point. >> crazy behavior and outlandish statements and now i'm the victim. >> i think with the lighting, the pale skin and the dark background, she looks like the question is in doubt. she looks like she might be a witch. i think any time you have to start an ad with i'm not a pi h witch, that's not a good day for your campaign. >> lawrence buchanan had to make nixon come out and say, let me make this perfectly clear, i'm not a crook. here we are 38 years later where

christine o'donnell starts a commercial saying, i'm not a witch. >> only pat buchanan has had tougher cases to defend than christine o'donnell. look, it's ridiculous. she never should have said, i'm not a witch. when you have something that crazy out there, the way you convey you are not a witch is you have a campaign commercial in which you do not appear to be a witch. you don't remind people that you thought about being a witch, were really attracted to the idea for a while when you were trying, quote, every religion out there. it's insane but there is nothing more fun on this show than watching pat defend the undefen undefensible. >> let me say she could have brought up her masterbation remark. >> total mockery of this young woman. >> she comes on and says in a nice voice and sort of passes it

off. >> say it, say a sentence. i want to hear the buchanan version of i'm not a witch. >> i'll tell you what it is. >> pat, say, i'm not a witch. >> how dare. they are really pounding on this young woman. they are beating on her. she is coming off very straight, very sincere, very middle class. i think it will have an appeal to the average individual. people on television will laugh and mock and mock but i'll tell you, i think it will have an appeal. >> pat, you have written the line, i am not a witch. would you have written that line? >> i have written a lot of better things in my time. >> that ain't nothing, lawrence. you should have been there in '73 when alderman and erlichman were screaming at him. what pat is saying is not unique. there are a lot of people

saying, don't get distracted by o'donnell. watch out. just watch out, because she pay not win but if everybody on tv is making fun and kicking her around, who knows. >> that was playing the sympathy card and the victim card. i want to remind you that people are calling me names, now vote for me, because i am really you, instead of, here is what i want to do. don't listen to all the garbage. here is what i want to do. vote for me. that's playing the victim, playing the victim, playing the victim. >> let me ask lawrence, what would your first ad be for o'donnell if you were running her campaign. >> same ad for all republicans, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts. she is running in delaware. you talk about tax cuts. 30 seconds, it's all tax cuts. >> lawrence, you have been saying that for all time. you think tax cuts is the

republican party's winning message. >> tax cuts is the winning side. in delaware, the corporate headquarters of america, she has a tax cut argument to be made. why she would be talking about anything else in that amount of time, i don't get it. >> when we come back, the political playbook, we will have that also. the real maverick, please stand up? the new yorker exposes the fight between john mccain and lindsey graham. that's ahead. first, here is bill karins with a quick check on the forecast. good morning, everyone. so far, 30-minute delays at philadelphia airport. the other airports are doing fine in new york and boston. we had a lot of rain out there. the airports are doing better than they were yesterday. heavy rain moving through buffalo at the current time. some showers around boston, new york city, some drizzle. d.c., the district of colombia, you are looking better. look at the forecast in

pittsburgh, a high of 51 degrees. that's winter coat weather. as far as washington, d.c. goes, the chance of showers returns wednesday but what a great forecast into next weekend, saturday, 75 and sunny. that could be fantastic. forecast for the rest of the country, southeast looks great. everywhere in the middle of the country, if you are waking up with us from l.a. to phoenix, you have to deal with gloomy weather. thunderstorms in arizona and drizzle and showers around l.a. you are watching "morning joe," brewed by star bucks.

tip my hat to really big coloring books incorporated for publishing the tea party coloring book for kids. it is full of pictures, puzzles and games designed to teach kids tea party values and at 32 pages, it is more comprehensive than the other conservative kids book, the gop pledge to america. >> he was on colbert last night, mr. gene robinson. >> your kids like small government the way mine do, they are going to love that coloring book. >> my kids are a bit older. they are going to love that. >> i am not sure my 27 and 20-year-old are really going to get into it. >> it is for all.

>> hey, jim, i understand president obama is going to do a town hall event with viacom. >> he has an hour, including mtv, to really address younger voters. this is part of an much broader campaign by the white house. this is to get the younger voters to turn out this time around. it was about a week ago when he did that big rally. they are doing targeting of the base vote. when you break down the poll. in our most recent poll that we do with g.w., if you look at the cross tabs, you can see the enthusiasm among younger voters is really, really low. that's a big warning sign for democrats. they need to figure out ways to get the core parts to turn out and vote and close close that gap we are seeing in the new

gallup numbers. >> when i hear mtv, i think what you think, snooki. why wouldn't you have snooki in that audience? you want to talk about getting young voters to pay attention. >> maybe she moderates. we seal what they have up their sleeve. >> jim, more to the point, the kids who came out and voted for obama in 2008, they are not going to come out for a mid-term election? >> they typically don't. we saw in 2004 kerry did a rally that was bigger than the one obama did. the truth is, they don't turn out in most elections, in terms of mid-term, it is bismally low.

>> if mtv would just have each member of the jersey shore register to vote on the show. you know not one of them even knows how to register to vote. >> that's not fair. you don't know that. >> not one of them. we know that. we know that. >> casting as perfection. >> politico jim van high, thanks very much. coming up, a check on the business headlines with erin burnett. [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ another day ♪ another dollar ♪ daylight comes [ dogs barking ] ♪ i'm on my way ♪ another day ♪ another dollar ♪ working my whole life away ♪ another day ♪ another dollar

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stock futures are looking up. let's talk to cnbc's erin brunette. she has more. i guess they are reacting to donald trump saying he will be running for president. >> markets are surging. we have a big pre-market gain. are you ready? this is what moves a market these days. the bank of japan cut interest rates from .1% to a range of 0 to .1%. that's what they did. that is huge. i mean, i know it is ridiculous. we are in a global fear of deflation. rates are already pretty much 0, pretty much everywhere in the big developed economies. the bank of japan is going to

spend $60 billion buying things like bonds which we anticipate the u.s. federal reserve will also do when they meet in december. >> all of these feds, all of these governments are doubling down. they are doing absolutely everything. they are throwing everything they can at the fire and the fire just keeps burning. >> durho you remember, joe, a y and a half ago, we talked about the risk the global bubble was a balloon and all are huffing and puffing into the balloon and trying to keep the air in it but it is still riddled with holes. it is difficult to stimulate growth when you have that much damage to the system. >> i will repeat again. alan greenspan was beaten up unmercifully because the fed cheapened money, lowered the rates. >> yes. >> alan greenspan looks like a

tight-fist tight-fisted meiser compared to others. >> people were burnt terribly so. now, you are trying to tell them go out and take this free money and do stuff with it. they don't want to do that. the big fear is, you don't want to go into a deflationary spiral. the banks say, pump this money in and they are willing to take the risk, down the line, you have money flooding the system. every dollar isn't worth as much as it used to be. that's bad for everybody. that's bad for standards of living and potentially bad for inflation. they are willing to take that risk just to get things growing right now. >> pat buchanan, this is one sick global economy. it just keeps getting worse. >> right, but erin, that gold and silver, the price of them, they are all going to records. that tells you the folks think those dollars when this thing starts going aren't going to be what it used to be. >> gold today, another record

high this morning. i know, joe, we have emphasized we have to go up another 60 plus percent to hit it. over the past ten years, gold has. pat is right. they say we have to go. one final thing, you remember the biggest trading loss ever, early 2008, jerome kurvial. he has been sentenced to jail and ordered to repay the trading loss, $6.8 billion. if he doesn't pay it, he still gets out of jail, only in france. >> what happens if he doesn't pay it? >> he gets out of jail. it's france. >> international star, erin burnett. coming up next, a look at what some people call the most influential liberal supreme court justice in history and how he is still shaping the court decisions today when we return. trust me. trust me. ya i like that. trust me.

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with us now, seth stern and steve miller, authors of the biography "justice brennan liberal champion." steven, let me start with you. i read "the new york times" story. i heard about you just in washington. when is it coming out? you had been approached by justice brennan to write a biography of him a long time ago. how long ago? >> 1986. >> '86. it took you quite some time to get moving on the proct. >> well, i did a lot of work early on. one of the interesting things is that i had covered the court at that point for the boston globe and the wall street journal for about eight years and this was like a private tutorial.

i didn't really want it to stop. i wanted to keep doing the research. i didn't want to write the book. >> it just kept going and going for a lot of reasons. you teamed up with seth and four years later. >> he is a pred dinlgus writer and organizer and it wouldn't have been done without him. it is wonderful it is done. >> there are some remarkable insights in here, seth, about justice brennan. >> a man that is not comfortable with women in the work place, being a champion of women in the work place. a man not comfortable with abortion, finding it ab har ent, being a champion of the private rights that eventually led to roe v wade. >> that is the most fascinating discovery we made is the contrast. there is this notion that liberal judges read their personal preferences into their

decisions. with brennan, he was a conservative man. you saw that on abortion, on women's rights. he was very reluctant to hire women clerks. he repeatedly said no and only did so after a former clerk told him he was a hypocrite and could be sued under the very laws that he wrote. >> isn't that fascinating. >> it shows a clash between your own personal feelings between what is right and wrong. >> that's what you want a judge to do, to be able to see what the law is in a case that isn't necessarily the same thing that junl believes personally. >> also, some remarkable revelations he had with you. you had historic access to justice brennan talking about thurgood marshall. >> i saw an ad for the lawrence o'donnell show where he talked about people with access to power and making the decision. he gave me the opportunity to

watch him make the decision. >> lawrence didn't have access. they just made that up for the show. there was one part where i thought this was fascinating as his biographer. he told you he was disappointed in thurgood marshall but then said, be careful with how you say that. i don't want to be misinterpreted. >> it was a hard part of the book. they really were good friends. they worked together closely. i think justice brennan felt that when he got on the court, this man who had been the great lawyer of the 20th century didn't do as much work on the court to help advance the issues they cared about together. >> lawrence o'donnell, your name has been mentioned about the blum blumenthal lie you mentioned. stephen just got himself bokked for any time he wants, any time

he wants. stephen, your access kind of stuns me. justice brennan allowed you into his chambers at 7:00 a.m. every day and you were able to pore over anything you wanted, open any drawer. is that what he allowed you to do? >> i started cloeslowly. i went carefully and felt my way around. after a while, i could come and go as i pleased. i could walk into his office and ask him if i could open the desk drawer and pull out his narrative histories of the term and he said, sure. >> when you do come to do my show, you will not allowed to do that in my office. there will be no opening of desk drawers, okay, especially the desk drawers, the second one on the left. >> i would be disturbed with what you found. >> president eisenhower was asked, what were your greatest

mistakes? he said, two of them are sitting on the supreme court. is that true and what did brennan think of the president that appointed him? >> well, it's a great story. whether it is true is another matter. whether he actually said it, i do think he thought it to some extent. he had picked brennan. i don't think he had an understanding of who he was. on the other hand, he didn't pick looking for a conservative. he was looking for a catholic and a democrat and a young junl. in that sense, he got what he was looking for. >> it's a remarkable contrast to today's nomination process. nobody asked brennan anything about what kind of justice he would be on the supreme court. it wasn't about that. >> in 1985, he came up to me and he had seen my writings. he said, pat, i'm going to outlast douglas. i said, how are you, mr.

justice? >> he was a very likeable man. everybody -- you guys basically blow up one myth, which is that he was somehow able to move people over to his side by just charm. >> i think that is the myth. the notion of him as this happy little lep pra can that went around the halls shaking hands. he wasn't some irish war boss. he was an extraordinary consensus builder. he was very persuasive. >> blackman didn't move on roe v wade or privacy rights because brennan was charming. >> brennan had an opportunity to put a consistent view out there for 34 years, and over time, it was more appealing and more persuasive to people but not because he threw his arm around their back. >> gene robinson? >> did he enjoy his 34 years on

the court? was this an enjoyable think for him or was it a job? how did he personally approach it? >> i think he loved it. it was hard work. he did work very hard. i think he absolutely loved it and didn't want to leave. he left because his doctors scared him into leaving, that he would have more strokes and die if he didn't give up the pressures of the job. otherwise, he wouldn't have left for anything in the world. >> 50 years from now when court historians look back, is the big idea of justice brennan, his persona of privacy around individuals starting with griswold, was that really the big idea of brennan? >> what's extraordinary about his tenure, part of it was the era of so many big cases. you can't reduce brennan to one big case. his influence from school to segregation, to women's rights to press freedom, he can't be

reduced to one decision like blackman is so closely associated with roe v wade. >> would he be is your pried where the roberts court is in 2010? >> that requires some editorializing on your part. >> you would be surprised that america has moved in a conservative direction as it has. >> surprised by philosophical. he talked about the pendulum swinging and he had a long run where the pendulum went his way. i remember him after one particular dissent, feeling sort of sad about having to be in dissent on the case and saying, now, i remember how justice harlan felt. in the warren court, harlan was in the minority. it was the notion that the p pendulum would swing back. >> stephen, congratulations.

>> the book, "justice brennan, liberal champion." >> seth was actually in high school. his mom was upset when stephen was hanging around the gym going, hey, can you help me? you actually went to cornell with andrew ross sorkin. >> yes. all right. the book looks amazing. >> mike barnicle and i started at the the boston globe together. >> and you have lived to tell about it. >> seriously, congratulations. this is an epic work. it really is. congratulations for all your work through the years and, seth, for coming in. you are the relief pitcher, came in the ninth and made it happen. >> up next, the new yorkers,

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there. >> any pulitzer's? >> no pulitzer's, i've got some peabody's. >> eugene, you did quite well. no emmy's, though. >> i've got to get me some of those peabody's and then i'll go back and then we will taublk. >> tlar are many issues republicans will be campaigning against. one thing they won't have to fight is a new climate law. ryan lizza explains why the white house may be to blame for its death. quote, american presidents who have attempted large scale economic transformation have always had their efforts tempered and sometimes neutered by powerful economic interests. obama knew that too and his administration had led the effort to find workable compromises in the case of the bank bailouts, health care legislation and wall street reform but on climate change, obama grew timid and gave up,

leaving the dysfunctional senate to figure out the issue on its own. ryan lizza joins us now. you actually say the republican primaries may be to blame for the death of the climate change. >> when you got to 2010, when the white house was washing its hand of the issue, in early 2009, john mccain and joe lieberman were writing a climate change bill together. >> right up to the edge. >> right up to the edge. they were a few days away from a press conference announcing some principles on climate change when mccain and lieberman had a stormy confrontation on the senate floor. lieberman walks off the floor and says, that's it. >> so j.d. haworth helped kill the climate bill? >> it was the same time that j.d. haworth was making noise about running against mccain. the same thing happened with jay mcknew. he was talking about getting

behind the bill. the primary cpolitics got complicated and lemieux decided he couldn't do that. >> you also had lindsey graham telling lieberman he was voting as well. >> the graham story is, there is a lot in this piece about the graham story. it was a lot of pressure from conservatives on graham to pull out of these talks. he was literally the only republican in the united states senate at the end of the day that would negotiate publicly on climate change. >> i don't know if the split still exists. remember, lindsey graham was this guy negotiating on climate change. he was negotiating on guantanamo bay. the guy is from south carolina, he has jim demint to the right making all sorts of noises. "time" magazine writes a story

about how lindsey graham is the new maverick. he told people that john mccain called him and they had a very testy conversation and he was the new maverick. i thought mccain was denying that. >> this is before that. >> that week he was a maverick. >> not only, this is in your article, correct me if i'm wrong, not only did he get mad at graham but he iced out the reporter at time for a while and was angry at her? >> she told me it is on the record in the piece that after she wrote that piece, mccain completely stopped talking to me. >> what you seem to be saying is that the public rose up. tea party rose up and the country was lost. cap and trade lost the country. >> absolutely. most environmentalist and al gore will tell you this. until you have public opinion behind this -- it is unfair to blame the white house. it is unfair in a sense that the

public was not behind them on cap and trade. obama already pushed through one massive piece of legislation, health care, which the public wasn't overwhelmingly supportive of. >> i was chief of staff of the environment committee. i could have told you at the beginning it was hopeless. what pat buchanan just mentioned was going to happen, which is the politics of it was going to intervene. ryan, you can talk about how pleasant the discussions were among these senators before politics entered the picture but in legislating, it always does. on a bill that needs 60 votes, you have to start off with the minimum of 15 republicans in play so that you can lose some of them as you negotiate this bill. when you start off about two or three in play, you are going nowhere. absolutely nothing the white house could have done.

>> i disagree with you there. you have a chicken and egg question. unless the white house engages, unless the president leads on the issue, you never know if you are going to produce those 60 votes. you jucan't just say if the sene approves, then i will vote for it. the senate has produced some pretty major legislation in the last two years and it onl did it when the white house got engaged and they led. >> your article is in the new issue of "the new yorker." up next, what have we learned today? ♪

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