the couch by my a jump with the start of the news. >> i'm going to stay away from that whole thing. go back to the couch. take the day off. rob, thanks very much. "morning joe" starts right now. for weeks the media has badgered me about affairs because unlike a career politician i was honest enough to acknowledge she was my daughter when i announced my candidacy. are you having an affair now? how many have you had? when was your daughter conceived? what i meant to express in my anger is simply this, does the media ask andrew such questions. andrew's prou wes is legendary. this campaign must be about bigger issues, not affairs or divorces because our state is in a death spiral. >> he says that's what people are asking him. >> oh, man. wow. >> okay.

>> there you go republican party of new york. that is your man. >> be proud. >> be proud. >> say it loud. i'm a republican in new york and i'm proud. whoo! wow. he talked about andrew cuomo's -- what was the word? >> prowess. >> first of all, why is he bragging for his opponent? you know what i'm saying? seriously. is that a negative? >> good morning everyone. >> wait a second. i'm not good with this english language. you're a writer barnicle. prowess. >> skill. make me proud, carl paladino. >> mark halperin, does he win by 20 or 30 points? >> what's great about it, if he would ratchet down all this stuff, if he hadn't done it, he actually could have won this race. he's frittering it away.

>> flittering it? >> there's another good word. frittering. >> it's a great word. >> i've got one more for you. >> what's that? >> chris yeah, how are you doing? >> doing very well. >> paladino -- oh, wait. are you registered to vote in new york or still a canadian citizen? >> still a canadian citizen. >> he could be chancellor there, right? >> no, no. we have ministers of finance. >> we have a general narrative of crazy -- >> it's not too late to move to canada. >> political season. let me get right to it. >> i've never been, believe it or not, never been to montreal. >> i have. it's nice. >> i've heard it's an extraordinary city. >> go in december or january when you can walk inside.

it's a great city. >> i was thinking about the architecture, thinking about the culture, hearing it's the most european city. >> you weren't thinking about the food, the beautiful women. >> somebody in my ear just said great strip joints. seriously? who are the loans we're dealing with in the control room? >> there's some new fellow in there. >> it must have been bobby, little bobby. that's disgusting. so let's do this. a lot of crazy stuff in the news. >> the jobs numbers come out today. we had the week yesterday. maria bartiromo will be here when that happens. we'll look at the numbers and break them down. >> she's going to be here? she was supposed to be here last time. >> is she showing up? >> we had oliver stone. >> he was not happy. >> she was sweating like a pig. he was expecting maria.

>> he was in the green room, they screwed me! i guess maria was sick. >> one more conspiracy for oliver stone. >> i had to say to him, calm down, it's going to be okay. seriously. >> hopefully she'll be here to go through the jobs numbers. >> has anyone watched that movie, by the way, the second "wall street?" >> yes, i have. >> how is it? >> it's entertaining, but not believable. >> i guess that's why nobody is watching it. that's a shame. >> all right. >> let me tell you something, we did three months of -- everybody is like you've got to see the movie? i'm like. it's like the "titanic." i know how it ends. from the time i was 5, i went to training union, sunday school. i read the book.

why would i have to see the "passion of the christ" to talk about it for three months on "scarborough country." one of the highest rated segments in "scarborough country" by the way. >> i think there's a certain kind of friday morning looseness happening today. >> it happens every day. >> since i don't have an obesity story any time soon, i'm not a rush. i'll take my time listening to you. >> i have whipped cream to work on here. >> i can't believe the thoughts you utter out of your mind. they're stunning. >> aren't they great? >> yeah. >> "scarborough country's" dvds, do you have those? >> amazon.com. >> no passport required. go ahead. i'm sorry. >> the bay city rollers for the house band. >> that wasn't a saying for the show, was it. >> no passport required? new york republican gubernatorial candidate carl paladino is not apologizing in

the wake of last week's public confrontation in which he threatened to, quote, take out "new york post" reporter fred dicker. in a campaign video message released yesterday, paladino said he's trying to change the focus of the race from the personal to substantive issues. however, in that same message after taking that shot at what he calls andrew cuomo's legendary prowess, paladino -- >> i would take that as a compliment. >> now stop. ridiculous. paladino later challenged cuomo to debate like a man. >> we can turn albany upside down. we can take out the trash and bring economic growth, jobs and prosperity back to new york. andrew, stop the political posturing and albany games. come out and debate all the candidates. why do you want to exclude the only african-american candidate and the only woman candidate and the green party candidate? i just don't understand. come out and debate like a man.

>> okay. in a statement last night cuomo's spokesman criticized paladino's comments saying he can, quote, con new yorkers. both men are scheduled to debate on october 18th. that should be interesting. >> wow. i've got more. the campaign of california democratic gubernatorial candidate jerry brown is now apologizing after one of his aides was heard in an audio recording referring to republican rival meg whitman as a, quote, whore. >> that's not good, is it? >> not in the playbook. >> that's not in the playbook. >> if you run it against a woman in a close race, don't call her a whore. >> definitely true. >> is that right? i'm not really good at this political thing. mike barnicle. >> rule number two or three. >> it was an aide. it wasn't him. >> it's not entirely clear it was an aide. >> what do you mean by that? >> the recording is kind of

muffled and whitman campaign suggested they think it might have been brown himself which would make it, i would say, a bigger problem. >> that would be a real big problem if a male candidate called a female candidate a whore. again, i don't know much about politics and i ran against a woman. >> but never once called her -- >> never once called her a whore. i did accuse her of not being specifically specific on what program she would cut to balance the budget. the line is a thin one. a little difference there. >> but there, thin but perceptible. >> i stayed on the non-whore. >> please stop saying the word. i know you're enjoying yourself and think you're really funny and barnicle thinks you're funny. >> no, he doesn't. >> seriously this is kindergarten. >> children, pull it together. >> oh, just stop it. >> the none-w-whore side of the

line. >> here it is. do we want to put an add out? that i have been warned and if i crack down pensions, i will go to -- they'll go to wit man and they'll cut a deal that i won't. >> she's a whore. it proves you've cut a secret deal to protect the patrons. >> i'm not accusing somebody of anything. that sounds like jerry or maybe all of his aides sound alike. >> i think now all of them will practice using a jerry voice. >> he has said things in this race already, not great if you want to be the leader of california. two, his campaign is not denying this is an authentic recording as mika said. he was leaving a voice mail,

thought he hung up. it continued to record. >> i have bigger problems with that. >> i've done that before. >> three, even if he didn't say it, he obviously was in the room when it was said. >> you said there's an enhanced audio recording where one you hear a voice that sounds more like jerry calling meg whitman a whore. and also you can hear someone saying the wall russ -- >> this could be the dominant story of the day. it could be something that changes the race or it could disappear. it does represent -- >> you narrowed that one down. >> it's early out there. >> the crystal ball is still a little foggy. >> it does represent a real problem for him because he has said intemperate things. it's well over the line. >> i've got responses here to report. in response meg whitman's

campaign said yes, the use of the term whore is an insult to both meg whitman and the women of california. this is an appalling and unforgivable smear against meg whitman. at the very least mr. brown tacitly approved this slur and he may have used the term at least once in this recording. >> and the women of california, that's crucial in that. >> the brown campaign says the attorney general was responding to the notion of accusing whitman of cut ag deal to gain endorsements, not to the use of the word whore. this was a jumbled and often inaudible recording of a private conversation. at times our language was salty. we apologize to miss whitman and anyone who may have been offended. the latest poll shows brown leading whitman by seven points, 50% to 43%. >> if mike barnicle the voters of california and the media come to the conclusion that it was

jerry brown that used the term, is that a real game-changer here? >> i would suspect -- my instinct says no in a state that size with the scope of the problems that california faces and the vagueness of the recording that we just heard, i would lean toward the story will be gone by sunday. >> mark? >> i think so, too, just because of the political culture of the state. if that happened in new york or massachusetts, i think it could end the race. >> it's okay to call a woman a whore in california? i don't know the ways of your west coast people. >> they like salt in their food. >> the nature of the political media in that state is such that people move on. you don't have a tabloid by the "new york post" or the boston herald keeping it -- >> you've had some experience running gns a female candidate, the different dynamics at play, that this could really,

depending on how the other side plays it. given the nanny story. >> it is so hard running against a female candidate. you are held to a different standard. i think i told this story about how my last debate i was behind, and it was just such an overwhelming success -- and she was actually attacking me. the crowd started booing her saying let's be positive, let's be positive. we walked out of there. >> the next day, the headlines accused my people of booing a woman. what should have been a problem for us politically, it's just tough. go ahead. >> we saw that in the

biden-palin debates. you felt the sense that he was restrained because he didn't want to be seen as being bullying and pushing too hard. mika is really right to raise the question of whether these comments are going to change the way that jerry brown dehaefs and whether he's going to have to be super careful and cautious to not be respectful. >> go back to lazio and clinton in 2000. >> he got into her space during the debate. do you know what i'm talking about? are we talking about the same thing. >> i wasn't talking about when they had hot dogs on staten island. >> that's right. >> make that point because it was a great point that you were making. what happened? >> it seemed he got into her space, walked into her during the debate, but it seemed like she was being attacked. >> turn that music off right now. no "scarborough country" themes. anyway, a man can walk into

another man's space on a debate stage and be fine. but a man walks into a woman's space -- >> my brother raised a whole new issue, the whitman campaibrown campaign insulted california's prostitutes. >> the witches are against o'donnell in delaware. >> there is so much more news to cover. >> what are some of the other stories you're covering? >> it's going to be tough to engender sympathy for a woman who spent $120 million of her own money. >> i don't think that's relevant to whether people are going to think it's appropriate to call her a whore. just because she's a successful business woman doesn't make it okay. on that note -- >> and also, you see $13 billion given to dead people in the stimulus. that's going to help.

up next politico playbook. we'll look at pete rouse's first week as chief of staff and the noticeable differences from the rahm emanuel era. also, they call him the wrecking ball. this is an amazing story and a good debate. governor chris christie pulls the plug on one of the biggest construction projects in the nation, a story making front page news this morning. later find out which stories are worthy of making willie's week in review. first bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? >> good morning everyone. it looks fantastic out there. a great stretch of weather. a calm weather pattern. a little chilly for our friends from pittsburgh to northern new england. this afternoon is one of the afternoons you want to try to be outdoors, eat your lunch outside. you know we won't have many warm days like this left. d.c., 77 today. boston at 70. leaves are near peak from the great lakes to new england. a lot of traffic driving around this weekend.

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donald trump is running for president, ladies and gentlemen. i think it's true. he's not the kind of guy that would stage something like this for publicity. and i know it's official because today he threw his hat at -- oh, never mind. this is what it would look like if donald trump would become president. you think things are bad now.

look at that. >> oh, boy. 21 past the hour. time to take a look at the morning papers. we'll start with "the new york times." new jersey governor chris christie has halted the largest public transit project in the nation saying his state can't afford its share of the project's rising costs. the project is a commuter train tunnel connecting new jersey to manhattan estimated to be $2.5 billion over its $8 billion budget. "the washington times," basic government spending rose by 9% in fiscal 2010, driving the country to a $1.2 trillion deficit, down from 2009. still the second largest poll on record according to the cvo. dallas morning news, surprising gains in september retail sales may bode well for the holiday season. jc pennies, may see's, dillard and nor strom all beat estimates. an update on the political

update from yesterday, the national republicans pulled the ad showing actors that look like, quote, hicks. we ought to talk about this chris christie story. >> a good must-read about it. >> we'll do a must-read about it. i saw you interview joseph stiglitz on my ipad ap. >> it was our most clipped story. everyone was interested in what joe had to say. >> amazing app that you guys have. he was saying that politicians and especially barack obama needs to explain why spending right now is absolutely necessary. >> exactly. what joe's argument was, and he's been making this really eloquently, that what's actually happening is stimulus by stealth right now.

you're having monetary policy bear the burden. so you have increedbly low interest rates and money being pumped into the economy that way. it's not working because banks aren't lending. it's flooding the world with this u.s. currency that's not actually stimulating the economy and infewer eighting trading partners. what he thinks needs to happen is the u.s. government needs actually to spend probably on infrastructure projects, much-needed ones, exactly like the tunnel. >> like this tunnel. >> it's a huge debate. >> an incredible debate with good arguments on both sides. politico chief white house correspondent mike allen is here with politico's morning playbook. mike, good morning. >> mika, happy friday! >> it is a happy friday. let's talk about pete rouse. it was his first week on the job. >> was the "s&l" skit accurate. >> he's not crying. pete's thing is quiet authority,

a little less loud in the west wing these days. pete rouse actually e-mails people rather than shouting at them down the hall. >> wow. >> okay. >> what do we expect the impact to be over the next several months? he's going through a very formal process to try to figure out how to restructure the west wing to deal with a post november 2nd era. we're told keeping with the president's style, he's not going to throw people overboard just to satisfy "morning joe," just to satisfy politico. the president likes to stand up to the conventional wisdom. so the team around him is going to stay similar. we're seeing this slow motion make over with david plouffe coming in, axe to chicago. the biggest change the president is likely to address this lack of a ceo. it's the biggest layup for him. i don't know why he hasn't done

it before. he's likely to bring in a woman ceo to replace larry summers. >> mike, let's go to the next story. reporters from the "wall street journal," "newsweek" and other publications have been comparing one man on capitol hill to "mad men's" don gray burn. who are they referring to? >> not just scarborough. john boehner wants to be speaker boehner, now the house republican leader. he has the same sort of suave, mysterious old school -- >> let me start you right there. mike allen, have you actually ever seen "mad men?" >> i have. i watch it in part because mika instructed me to watch it. >> do you draw comparisons between john boehner and don draper? i've been seeing it from the beginning and i just don't see the comparison. >> one of the big differences. don draper goes with the cool,

quiet ties. speaker boehner likes the loud ties to dress things up. on the substantive side, nothing quiet -- there would be nothing quiet about a speaker boehner. we're told he wants to be a reformer. there will be a big contrast for a reformer. obama also is going to run as reformer. john boehner today in cincinnati is going to give a little look ahead to his agenda and he's going to say we know you're mad, you don't have to take it anymore. i think that line "you don't have to take it anymore" will be the lead from today's boehner speech. >> very good. mike allen, happy friday. thanks for being with us. >> happy weekend. >> thank you, mike. hold on. i'm a "mad man" aficionado. i've seen it from the beginning. i don't even see it -- >> do you want to be the don draper guy? >> i don't think he does. >> hell no. this is, by the way, the best

"mad man" season. it keeps getting better. >> i was going to start on the playbook. >> it's been unbelievable. >> i was going to say something about john boehner. >> you can. >> to go back to his question. the biggest problem i think in the economy right now is we need consistency and the business community needs to know what's coming down the pike. boehner and the president have to join hands in january and get that done. >> they've got no choice. >> they have totally diametrically opposed views about what the government should do. >> so did newt gingrich and bill clinton. they've got no choice, right? coming up, a paper trail reveals that thousands of government stimulus checks were sent to dead people. >> it happens. >> more controversy in day two of the baseball play-offs. did the umps affect the outcomes in two games yesterday. sports is next. we'll be right back. ♪

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32 past the hour. live shot from the top of the rock in new york city. we wait for if sun to come up. welcome back to "morning joe." quick look at the news. senior pakistani diplomats and european intelligence officials are telling britain's "the guardian" that president obama is inflating this week's european travel alert for political reasons. the alert led the uk, france and other countries to raise their overseas terror alert levels. but "the guardian" reports that a veteran pakistani diplomat claims the warning is an attempt to justify a recent escalation in u.s. drone attacks inside pakistan. the paper also says european officials are pointing the finger at the u.s. saying the white house weaved together loose evidence to formulate a threat that, if it existed at all, was far from becoming a real danger. >> why would they do that? mark halperin, what's the motivation there? >> i feel like i've heard that before, different time,

different place. >> i don't know. >> i'm won dergs what the alleged motivation is? europeans are getting really angry over the use of drones. i'm not saying the story were true. but the argument goes that the americans are exaggerating the security threat that europeans face so that when the europeans next complain about drones, you can say, come on, guys, look at the threat you're facing. we are protecting you by taking these bad guys out in their homeland. >> seems implausible as a charge. >> okay. a new report is slamming america's hef vai reliance on private security forces in afghanistan saying they're poorly monitored and often benefit the taliban. the inquiry says there's significant evidence that some security contractors work against coalition forces and pi

kickbacks to war roads. the u.s.'s failure to properly train the contractors has cost american lives, undermined the u.s. mission and helped play into the hands of the enemy. president obama is refusing to sign a bill that critics say would have made it easier to evict homeowners who miss their payments. the legislation that passed in congress without debate called for notarized documents to be accepted across state lines. however, it became a contentious issue this week after major mortgage companies acknowledged problems processing such documents including suspected forgeries. the white house says the president will use a pocket veto to reject a bill by not acting on it within ten days of congress adjourning. still congressional aides say lawmakers will protest the action given -- the social security administration mistakenly sent out 72,000

stimulus checks to dead people. each check was $250, amounting to about $18 million according to the report more than half of those payments have been returned. an additional $4.3 million went to more than 17,000 prison inmates, but they were eligible to get the payments -- >> they needed it. you get into a new place, you want to fix it up as much as you can. we have sports now. what's up? >> big night, big night. >> the twins. you gave me a remarkable statistic about the twins prowess, legendary prowess in choking. >> andrew cuomo is at bat for them. 0 for 10 with runners in scoring position against the yankees. a tough day yesterday. first we'll go to san francisco because, as you remember joe and mika, roy halladay threw a no-hitter night before last. last night tim lincecum, another

stellar pitching performance on the mound against the braves. second inning, strikes out the side. threw a complete game, 119 pitches. he struck out 14 atlanta braves. only two hits. derek lowe pitched a great game, too. bottom of the fourth, buster posey is out. >> out. >> no. the umpire called him safe. >> kidding me? >> no. buster remains on second base. now know what's going to happen. brooks conrad -- cody ross singled to left field scoring buster. >> the only run of the game should not have scored. >> that was it. 1-0. if they had replay, if there was an argument, yeah. 1-0 san francisco wins. yankees-twins in minnesota. carl pavano on the mound. nice pitch. no.

hunter wendall stat behind the plate called it a ball. guess what happens? he gets an extra life. boom. double. 3-2 lead. that didn't sit well with twins manager ron garden hire who takes it on with hunter. see you later. throws him out of the game. the yankees win 5-2. they lead the series 2-0. here is one more questionable call for you, joe. take a look at this one. rays-rangers. did he go around. michael young at the plate, no, he didn't go around. let's take a look at it. >> oh, yeah, he went around. over the plate. >> first base umpire said no. boom. michael young, three-run homer. took advantage. joe madden, same deal. he starts with the umpire. he gets ejected. the rangers win 6-0. they're one win away from winning the first play-off series in franchise history. watch out for the rangers.

>> that's stunning. the rays down two. the twins down two. two favorites. >> the rangers could be a nightmare for the yankees with those two left handers, cliff lee and c.j. wilson who threw yesterday. down in florida, still, before the rays game -- >> this is not going to help. >> governor crist is invited to stloe out the first pitch in the game. let's see how charlie does. >> oh! >> oh, charlie. >> wow. >> if bob uecker would say, he'd say that's just a little outside, just a little outside. >> oh, my god. he's an athlete. he played football in college. >> general counsel for minor league baseball. >> you know what he's doing? he's going right there. maybe that's it. >> i don't know. i tell you, barack obama went

bowling and things ended up all right for him. >> stop. >> wee! >> don't you feel sorry for these guys though? >> awful. i'm saying nothing. i was so nervous throwing out the pitch. >> wee! >> the first pitch was called a ball? where could it have been? high, low, inside, outside? >> that was a strike right below the belt, inside corner of the plate. mika, a couple of games today. >> i can't wait to hear all about it. >> the phillies are playing all about it. they take on the reds at 6:00 p.m. giants play the braves. take a nap this afternoon. >> we could have rangers-phillies series, huh? >> we could. we could. >> are there low-fat cracker jacks? >> no. speaking of low fat, do you see this? thin women get paid a lot more than overweight women. >> you know what's the kicker of that story.

fat men get paid more than -- >> everybody. >> that explains a lot. the numbers are staggering. that is so interesting. we'll do it next hour. >> also, guess who gets a pass on obama-care? we heard mcdonald's? guess who gets a pass? the united federation of teachers. >> what a surprise. >> his top allies are getting passes on obama-care which i thought was supposed to be -- >> very interesting how that story panned out. coming up, newt gingrich, i'm skeptical, makes a bold prediction for the november elections. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks.

i'm going to be a little

more optimistic. i think this tide is continuing to build. i think the 10.1% unemployment number by gallop is going to be devastating. i think food stamps versus paychecks is very powerful. i'm going to predict we'll probably be over 60-seat pickup, the largest pickup since 1932. >> welcome back to "morning joe," 44 past the hour. time now for our must-read op eds. first, any reaction to newt's prognostication? >> what do you think, mike? how do you respond seriously to a guy -- i'm dead serious here -- i don't know how to take him anymore. he's a brilliant guy in many ways, but when you compare a religion to naziism and compare -- i think it was kathleen sebelius to joseph stalin and all the other outrageous things. how do you sort through it when you have somebody -- i don't care whether we're talking about

extremists on the left on cable news shows or extremists on the right who are on cable news shows. once you say so many bizarre -- how do you sort through the garbage to get anything good out of it? >> i no longer try with newt goiingrich gingrich. i find him exhausting, he's always looking to set a higher bar for himself rhetorically. i tuned him out three or four weeks ago on the nazi stuff. >> yeah. >> okay. that's where i am. "new york times," the end of the tunnel. this is by paul krugman. i think this is really the discussion that we're having as it pertains to a project. this is what he says. thursday chris christie, the governor of new jersey canceled america's most important current public works project, the long-planned and much-needed second rail tunnel under the hudson river. here is how you should think about the decision to kill the tunnel. it's a terrible thing in itself, but beyond that it's a perfect

symbol of how america has lost its way. by refusing to pay for essential investment, politicians are both perpetuating unemployment and sacrificing long-run growth, all visiontion of a better future seems to have been lost. >> it's the perfect balance between whether you have vision and you promote growth. you realize we've run out of money. >> right. this goes back to the joe stiglitz interview you had. >> yeah. i thought actually that was an excellent column by krugman. i've been traveling outside the u.s. the past couple weeks quite a bit. the thing that has struck me is how america is looking from the outside. what i kept on hearing from people was this sense that america is unable to come torg as a country. it's striking how you hear that

from the europeans, emerging market economies. you hear that, not just looking at china, but places like turkey. even the russians. they're building big stuff. america somehow -- the country that people have really looked to seems to have lost the ability to come together around big national projects. >> you know, mika, this goes back to what we were saying about gingrich. when you have a republican president, you have extremists goings-on tv on the left calling the republican president a fascist. when you have a democratic president, you have right-wing extremists going on the air calling the president a fascist. that really does have -- i say it's all about ratings and it is all about ratings for these goof balls that do it, but this actually has a real impact, mike, a sustainable impact on this country's political process. and it is causing the very

problems that we're bringing up here. this is a national crisis. >> you can use the tunnel in governor christie's refusal to go forward with the tunnel. it's sort of a metaphor for what's happened in american politics. there's a traffic jam in washington. it's a four-way interception. nobody can get anything done in washington. the trickle-down effect. joe stiglitz talking about spending money, this is how you put people to work, building tunnels, building high-speed rail. none of it is happening. just visually when you travel around the world, you come back here, it's like landing in warsaw in 1952. >> were you just there? >> yeah. >> so is my dad. he's talking all the time about istanbul and turkey. >> turkey is the hot new country. >> we ended up getting sidetracked for a lot of reasons on afghanistan. >> this is the debate, though.

you do have to look at what's happening also, not only in america, but look what's happening in germany. they've undergone an austerity program and their economy is doing well. great britain is talking about doing the same thing obviously. but there are unfortunately, every situation is different. it's not an economics classroom. sometimes spending more money makes sense. sometimes it's the absolute wrong thing to do. >> different countries are in different positions, right? america happens to be in a lucky and unique position that it can borrow money from the rest of the world practically for free. >> we're all focused on midterms so it will be big and interesting. what the president does in december, january and february to deal with the issue of getting the country functional again, it's huge. it can't be overstated what the stakes are and howdy it will be. speaking of everybody on both sides treating our political system like it's a football game, the bottom line is that whether republicans take

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chrystia. this week is jam packed with important news story. unfortunately, you'll find none of them in my week in review, not willie's. >> i'm not a witch. i'm nothing you've heard. >> at number three, political witchcraft. >> i dabbled into witchcraft. i hung around people who were doing these things. one of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar. >> democrat candidate put to rest putting to rest the notion she's a witch. >> i've not a witch. i've nothing you've heard. i'm you. >> some suggested in all black and standing in front of an ominous background is not the best way to prove that one is

not a source rift. her bold declaration was reminiscent of another iconic denial in american political history. >> i'm not a crook. >> at number two. >> keep it up liza. >> larry and liza. >> i never kissed a man before, now isn't that a shame. >> larry king did this week what he does best, reaquainting america with the stars of yesteryear. >> do you date? you're single, attractionive, talented. >> yes -- thank you. >> with the clock ticking on the reign of the king, an old friend, the incomparable liza minnelli turned up to swing larry a lull buy. ♪ i always go to bed at ten, isn't that a bore ♪ >> they have the kind of old school showbiz chemistry that he sometimes struggles with.

>> larry, you're being inappropriate. you really are. i'm not going to talk about. >> what? i'm asking a question. >> the number one story of the beak. >> for the first time of my life i am absolutely thinking about it? >> a departure from his media-shy style, donald trump came out to fan the flames of press speculation that he's thinking about a 2012 presidential run. >> somebody has to do something. we are losing this country. >> his record of bringing americans together speaks for itself, most recently in his role as heeler and chief. after the carrie prejean picture scandal. >> the pictures taken were acceptable. in many cases they were lovely pictures. >> he will extend the open hand, yes. he's also not afraid to shake an iron fist at his enemies. in a trump administration, mahmoud ahmadinejad will get the rosie o'donnell treatment.

>> kissing rosie o'donnell, can you imagine that? can you imagine what kelly has to live with living with this pig face? >> he says if he does run, lit be out of a burning desire to see the country do better on the world stage. above all, it will be to promote his line of gentlman's ties. >> by the way, you can buy them at macy's, number one selling tie in the united states. go to macy's and buy those ties. >> sign me up. chrystia freeland, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. we'll be right back with guess who? donny deutsch. ♪ [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ another day ♪ another dollar ♪ daylight comes [ dogs barking ] ♪ i'm on my way ♪ another day ♪ another dollar

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let me ask you one more thing about the video clips that have surfaced. have you been embarrassed by those clips? >> no, i'm not embarrassed. i'm obviously not proud. it's them trying to paint a picture of who i was 20 years ago. i've matured in my faith. i've matured in my policies. today you have a 40-something woman running for office, not a 20-year-old. >> what i think she could add to that even is explain what the real witchcraft and voodoo politics in economics is. that's what's going on in d.c. that's why she's determined to get to d.c. to right some wrongs and get some truth in washington, d.c. so our economy

can get roaring back to life and america can be put on the right track. >> i've got to say any time i see sarah palin, she actually keeps getting worse. you start with sarah palin at the republican convention, and she gave what i thought was one of the best political performances i've seen in some time, at the republican convention. we were all, we were watching her there and we were like, oh, my god, this lady is good. where did she come from? all of these other things as she moved forward, at the end of the campaign, let me tell you something, the media hated her. by the end of the campaign she was drawing 10,000 people. she was in charge. she had her talking points. but in that situation she is horrible. she really is. she keeps getting worse and worse and worse. and i don't get it.

donny? >> americans, two of ten think she's competent. >> she was so good early on. >> anybody can give a performance. >> no, no, no, that's not true. sarah palin gave a virtuoso political performance. >> it was a new critter we hadn't seen before, a very dynamic, attractive female in charge. it was captivating. once you peeled back the layer, not only was there nothing there, it was frightening what was there. what's interesting is the christine o'donnell spawn. they actually kind of look alike. >> you really have come out early on -- you throw the grenade, i storm the hill with you and now i'm the bad guy. >> no. i wasn't throwing a grenade. i was saying i thought she did a very good job early on and suddenly you're talking about spawn and fritters and things like that. we're just getting started.

donny, 30 seconds on the air, already a negative e-mail. >> actually this e-mail came on before donny even said anything. i've watched daily since the show launched and i still can't figure out the comments of donny deutsch. >> that's 30 seconds into the show. usually they wait till the endment i would like to keep us posted as the negative assaults come on. why do you have me on the show? that's a very good question. >> i will tell you why we have you on the show. read the jerry brown story. >> i was going to ask why the donny e-mails can't be on a ticker. >> they should be. the campaign of jerry brown is now apologizing after one of his aides was heard in an audio recording referring to republican rival meg whitman as a, quote, whore.

the comment was inadvertently captured by a voice mail machine after the state attorney general called the los angeles police protective league in early september to ask for its endorsement. brown apparently believed he had hung up the phone. but the connection remained intact and recorded his conversation with an aide where brown apparently discusses his frustration with whitman potentially winning that league's endorsement. take a listen. >> do we want to put an ad out, that i have been warned if i crack down on pensions, it will -- whitman will cut an appeal that i won't. >> she's a whore. >> well, i'm going to use that. it proves you've cut a secret deal to protect the pensions. >> in response, you want the whitman campaign response or right to donny? >> first of all, mark halperin, it sounds an awful lot like jerry. >> there are people who think it is jerry brown. the campaign is not denying that

it was said. it makes a big difference. >> they can't really address it. if they deny it, suddenly you get people in the room, there are a lot of people in the room that will have to not tell the truth. >> so why is donny on the show? >> donny, top ad guy, considered the best of the best in this business. it's the truth. >> thank you. >> we were hearing from mike barnicle who has run a state bsh wide campaign in california and also mark halperin about how in california things dissipate. it's not like new york city where you have the tabloids. >> you don't have this. i actually think this can be a devastating bullet. if i'm running whitman's campaign and she spent over $100 million so far. here is the ad, i'm meg whitman, i want to cut the deficit. what's jerry brown's response? he calls me a whore. >> you wouldn't have her in the spot actually say the word.

>> i might even say that. you can play the dirty politics. do not let this go, but make it as a response to, hey, wait, i'm for change, i'm for this. what's his response? he has to continue to respond to that. what is his response? no, i didn't or i didn't really mean it. it's unfortunate this could turn an election. properly used because she has the money this could be the seven-point differential. >> i agree with you. if it's done the right way, if someone else comes in and says it mournfully, just talking ad strategies, having a woman saying that, meg whitman, i'm out of work. meg whit hand has a plan to get me back to work. what's jerry brown's response? he calls meg whitman a whore? >> bring the issues and that word together. that's the strategy. i think what's interesting, you guys haven't drawn a line, talk about double standard, talking

about paladino giving cuomo prowess. isn't that interesting. >> there's your segue. this is another reason we have donny deutsch from west coast to east coast, he's the man that gives us the most most. >> we'll get to that story. i really think meg whitman's response is interesting, too. i quickly won't your take on it. this is the whitman campaign. the use of the term whore is an insult to both meg whitman and the women of california. this is an appalling and unforgivable smear against meg whitman. at the very least mr. brown tacitly approved this despicable slur and he himself may have used the term at least once in the recording. >> the thing is, it is, if you think about it, here is a progressive guy, mike barnicle, who is supposed to be a champion of women's rights. the second he gets angry, he calls her a whore which suggests if you're a woman in the

workplace, you're going to be treated differently than men by jerry brown. >> look, there's no doubt. it's a nasty, vial word. there's no doubt that a series of commercials like that might have an impact. i still think that given the nature of the state itself, given the incredible set of problems that confront that state on a daily basis and with the five different media markets, you get the san francisco down to san diego, los angeles, the inland empire, it's so difficult to maintain a focus among voters in california given the breadth of the state, i don't know -- >> i saw those lines. does the average voter in california even understand the difference of what meg whitman stands for versus what jerry brown stands for? i guarantee if you took a poll and said line them up on the issues, there's no differentiation there. everybody is saying the same thing, we want to create jobs and whatnot. when you have something like this, that is the very thing that breaks through.

>> i think the average voter in california is no different than the average voter in new york state. >> absolutely agree. >> the state is bankrupt, the schools are terrible. what's going to happen a year from now is their future. they don't think of the future in ten years' time. what's going to happen next year? what's going to happen to my child? what's going to happen to my job, my house? >> the challenge for her is she has to get more women votes. this issue is tail-made for this. talk about the voters in california and voters no new york. let's move to new york. you think they would want to talk about what you're talking about barnicle, jobs and the economy, but we have this. new york republican gub tropical storm candidate carl paladino is not apologizing in the wake of last week's public confront tapgs in which he threatened to quote, take out "new york post" reporter fred dicker. in a campaign video message released yesterday paladino says he's trying to change the focus of the race from the personal to

substantive issues. donny, i'm going to need your take on this. would you have advised this? however, in the same ad he takes a shot at what he calls andrew cuomo's legendary prowess. >> for weeks the media has badgered me about affairs because unlike a career politician, i was honest enough to acknowledge she was my daughter when i announced my candidacy. are you having an affair now? how many have you had? when was your daughter conceived? what i meant to express in my anger is simply this, does the media ask andrew such questions? andrew's prowess is legendary. no, this campaign must be about bigger issues, not affairs or divorces because our state is in a death spiral. >> i'm confused. why would he compliment the guy? >> he's just a silly man. andrew is a friend of mine. i've never seen the prowess up close and personal. >> not prowess.

you've got prowess and then you have legendary prowess. >> legendary. i'm sorry. i'm picturing andrew watching that and his campaign saying give us another gift. it's funny about prowess. one of the things when you differentiate clinton versus bush senior was the very thing people thought was negative about him, legendary prowess, did it add to his verility, before the scandal broke out. >> ed rollins quoted in the "new york post" today on this video saying this will set the republican party and the state back ten years. this doesn't just mean cuomo is going to win, but it's really going to hurt the image of the republican party. this guy presumably is going to keep this up. it's horrible. >> what i think is another interesting story, the $2 million that he's been funneling into the -- he's hired add agencies, but hasn't really

hired them. he's taking that money, donor money funneling into businesses he's connected to. i'm curious to see what's going on there, what that really means. are there dollars not going on the air and going directly to his pocket. >> am i the only one who thinks -- listen, paladino is clearly off the screen weird. let's accept that. >> creepy. i like creepy. >> but at the core, his candidacy and even the o'donnell candidacy in delaware has an appeal that, if it wasn't flawed by their message. if christine o'donnell had not used "i'm not a witch" and "i'm you." >> the appeal is i'm an outsider. i'm you. >> all they had to do is i'm angry, i'm different, i'm new, people will vote for the blank page. >> if you had

announce -- >> when he got the nomination, i e-mailed a friend of mine and said i'm concerned, i'm concerned. the character t critter you could have played with. he's unravmd. that can't help themselves. >> there's a quiet resentment among if media people in new york for andrew cuomo. you don't have to peel it back too much. people are -- the press people are angry with him. he's too clever by a half. whether "the new york times" or "new york post" and daily news and he does it on his terms. >> he's a tough guy. >> you know what? tough guys get the bark ripped off of him once they become governor of new york. i'm just telling you there's going to be payback. if he is governor, it's going to be ugly for him because of all the things he's been doing the last year. andrew cuomo, you're being too

clever by half. the media always wins. just mark the time down and tell your friend he better start going out there. he's going to win. >> he's going to win big and be a great governor. >> he better start working with the media. >> this is not a warm fuzzy guy. this is a guy that will bump into a lot of -- >> do you think he knows what joe is saying is true. >> i think the media doesn't like him because he's a tough guy. he's also the son of somebody. >> the fact is he thinks he's smarter than these newspapers. i'm not talking tv shows. i'm talking about the new york media. he think lsz he's above it all. just like barack obama, the second he raises that right hand he's going to learn he's not. i'm telling you, if andrew cuomo knows what he's doing, if he's as smart as you say he is, he's going to start reaching out to "the new york times," to the "new york post," to the new york "daily news," to the local

stations around here. if he doesn't, the second he becomes governor they're going to take him down. am i not right? >> 100%. it's amazing to me a guy that smart doesn't see it. >> you know what? the obama people didn't see it. they thought they were special. and then -- >> raised the right arm and cut it off. >> the media wins in the. up next, a preview of "meet the press" and chuck todd live from the white house. and cbs maria bartiroma. first bill karins with a check on the forecast. this is the simplest and nicest week end forecast i've seen in months. tropical storm otto could become a hurricane today north of puerto rico heading out to sea. we won't worry about otto. sunshine galore from buffalo to boston to d.c. everyone will enjoy a nice day. chilly this morning. this afternoon will be gorgeous. 80s all the way from minneapolis

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christine o'donnell, i'm not a witch. richard nixon, i'm not a crook. george w. bush, i'm not allowed to use the stove by myself. thanks for watching this fake announcement. >> that's funny. 20 past the hour. joining us from washington this friday -- >> it's funny because it's true as homer simpson say sgls we have moderator of "meet the press." >> that's not nice. he comes from a great family. >> absolutely. >> i love the family.

>> nice man. >> he is. he is. by the way, as peter gamon said, he could have been the greatest -- he meant this as a compliment -- the greatest baseball commissioner in the history of the game. >> he was a great owner. we do have the greatest baseball commission in the history of american sports in bud selig. but george w. bush would have made a great baseball commissioner. >> do you know who else comes from a great family? david gregory. >> the moderator of "meet the press." also chief white house correspondent chuck todd. >> don't know his family so i can't make a joke about his family being sketchy. >> my guess is there are sorted stories. just a guess. >> lots of things. there's only one story out today, guys that is going to have an impact for the next month, the jobs number.

david gregory, how is the white house and democrats preparing for it? >> try to absorb it the best you can. i think they're fully now in a mode where the country is in a funk about jobs. this is only going to add to it depending upon what the number is or how benign and then you get basically the situation that we're in. i think this is still part of a larger argument to say things are tough, we've tried to make it better and the other side doesn't have any decent ideas. >> chuck todd, i'm ask you the same question. i guess we're expecting maybe 9.7, the bloomberg estimates. >> we'll put the president out. one of the frequent stops from the jobs report, going to a small business in maryland. going to talk about it and try to say the same thing the last four or five months, the worst is behind us. we've got to figure out how to jump start job growth. but it's -- in many ways, you

doubt people are listening, even the president himself admits that sometimes because that unemployment rate is sition up there so high and because it isn't clear where the next jobs are. the problem that this white house -- and it may be the next white house has is where are the jobs going to come from in the next five years? this could be the new normal 8%, 8% to 10% unemployment. >> david -- chris, do we have the "i am you" part two christine o'donnell ad? get it. because my question for david given the picture chuck just painted on jobs and the economy and the report coming out this morning and the difficulty for the democrats in this, we have christine o'donnell who we've been having fun with on the witchcraft stuff. but this is her next "i am you" ad. take a listen. >> i didn't go to yale. i didn't inherit millions like my opponent. i'm you. i know how tough it is to make and keep a dollar.

when some tried to push me from this race, they saw what i was made of and so will the senate if they try to increase our taxes one more dime. i'm christine o'donnell and i approve this message. i'm you. >> david gregory, why do i think that could really work? >> well, it's not a bad message if she were somehow in this race. if we look across the landscape of race that is are tight in this election cycle, at the moment this is not a state that's one of them. just because she did well in a primary doesn't mean it's translating to a general election. i think she's had a couple of good ads. i don't know if you can overcome a quote like "i'm not a witch" or "i dabbled in witchcraft." but i think on some levels she's rehabilitated herself well. that becomes a separate question from the technical aspects of how she gets elected in this

cycle. christine o'donnell is in many ways outside sort of the mainstream of what republicans are doing in this election cycle on the kind of arguments that they're making because she's really not in this race in the way that others with that same message are. >> chuck todd, let's talk about the florida race right now, the florida senate race, a race that was competitive. i don't know if you have a monitor there. we're going to show you right now charlie crist throwing out the first pitch last night. >> i saw it. >> at the rays game. wee! as bad as barack obama trying to bowl in pennsylvania. seriously, how do you do that? how does a grown man miss the center of the plate? >> he was a quarterback. he supposedly was a quarterback at wake forest. >> is this not a france feshl skill throwing a football?

>> i thought it was. >> you see barack obama -- i'm sorry, he doesn't throw the way you would think. >> nor for a quarterback at wake forest. >> you have to try to do that. >> i do not understand these politicians that can't find the middle of the plate. >> i wouldn't judge. >> i would judge. >> you get a 39 in bowling. i can judge you. if you throw that badly, i can judge you as well. >> nerve-racking. >> no, it's not. >> un-american, i'm going to try to get the ball, not pull my lat muscle to do that. >> you can almost here bob uecker going "just a little bit outside." let's talk about the debate, chuck todd. what was the takeaway in the florida papers on the rubio-meek-crist debate.

>> winner one was rubio in a lot of people's minds because nobody really seemed to -- a lot of these slipped off him. he's become teflon a little bit. among crist or meek, which challenger did the best? looked to me that meek was the stronger, more gres sive -- in many ways when you're ziting in third place and you've got nothing to lose, crist is still struggling. he wants to try to attract more democratic voters. he's afraid to loose that 15% to 20% of republican voters he has. i think that's constrained him. i think you can see it in these debates that instead of the -- he was talking about being an independent candidate was going to give him some freedom to be comfortable with what he was with his ideology. instead, it does feel like crist is sitting there trying to find this piece of the electorate over here with jewish voters or

this piece over here with seniors or this piece with moderate voters. so i think he came across sort of as just a little off his game. >> hey, david, the problem for charlie crist would seem to me is, if kendrick meek did turn in the best performance, if he won that debate, then marco rubio won the debate. that means democrats shift from crist to meek. >> i think we knew weeks ago when you saw more of the democratic establishment coming behind him, endorsing him and you've seen his numbers. the inside talk on that is as he got closer to 25%, then all of the sudden charlie crist, governor crist didn't have a chance because he couldn't get enough democratic support to offset what he was losing to rubio on the republican side. that's exactly right. the better meek does, if better rubio does and more of a squeeds on charlie crist. >> what are you doing this

weekend on "meet the press." >> the first of our senate debates. we'll feature the debate out of illinois for the president's former seat. this is a great race. here you have a sitting member of congress, a republican struggling against alexi giannoulias who the president has come in last night to help. a lot of credibility problems on both sides. a fun one to watch. we'll have him in the studio and go through the issues. >> we had alexi here a couple weeks ago. i like both these guys. i worked with mark in the senate. and i know alexi and like him, too. he seemed thrown off, didn't he? there was the "tribune" article on when he worked at a bank. >> and taxes. >> his family bank when it collapsed. >> there didn't seem to be the sort of join we had seen in a

month. i mean that. >> the two of them haven't had their past statements and personal lives scrutinized in a way that has made them manifestly uncomfortable. >> david, we're looking forward to that. that's one of the most fascinating races i think in america. >> chuck todd, thank you as well. >> who do the canes play this week end? >> it's miami-florida state prime time, saturday night. >> going to be a great game. >> right after "morning joe" we'll bring in the new york city health commissioner discuss the proposal to ban food stamp users from buying sodas. >> i have to go down the street. i'll be right back. >> you're staying right here. we'll talk about this. i'm very excited about this story. and also do skinny women get the fattest paychecks. that's next on "morning joe." interesting grooming.

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35 past. welcome back to "morning joe." despite the tough economic times, there appears to be a bright spot for women in this economy. >> that's good news. >> the number of women earning $100,000 a year or mo is going up. >> that's great news. >> but as nbc's kristen welker explains, as women break through the salary glass ceiling, some old stereotypes die hard. >> robin and marissa are part of the rapidly growing 100k club. it kin is a partner at a prestigious law firm. nance a director at a major media agency in los angeles. they both understand how far women have come. >> when i'd walk in, people would say, oh, can you bring us some drinks. >> reporter: it's a different world for women, according to the latest census figures. compared to a 4.4% decrease for

men making that amount. >> experts say it's all thanks to 30 years of progress for women in academia. people like this medical student at northwestern university. >> in my class t breakdown is 50/50. i think that shows that women are just as good as men. >> but all of that validation is tempered by some sobering numbers. women still earn just 83 cents to the dollar compared to men and then there's this. >> resolution number one -- >> obviously will lose 20 pounds. >> old stereotypes die hard. a new study proves it, saying weight still matters when it comes to women in the workplace. a new study published in the journal of applied psychology found thinner women make more money while a man's income rises when he paxon the pounds. experts say these findings are disappointing. >> it's the bigger package

somebody is looking at. it's you as a person. it's your brain, your body. it's what you have on. it's everything. so be confident, but be aware of yourself. >> when marissa nance wants to hire someone, she says out ward appearance is the last thing she's judging. >> it's based on how hard you work. >> reporter: the gap between women's and men's salaries may be getting smaller. even with time and more education double standards die hard. >> so if you're a man -- let me get this straight -- actually getting fatter increases your salary? i am on the right path. >> i give up. >> i actually do think there's discrimination against men and women who are overweight in the workforce. not conscious, but i think it's there. i'm not surprised on the woman part. i'm surprised as men get fatter -- that doesn't make any sense. >> it's worked for me. >> not everyone can take the jelly doughnut intravenous the way you do. >> the sugar rush, keeps me working through day.

>> women are still paid far less than men. that's the bottom line. weight is an issue that plagues this country across the board. up next, lawrence wright and how he turned the conflict into a gaza strip into a one-man play. john lennon's 70th birthday. we'll rebel the legend in a very special segment coming up on "morning joe."

with us now actor turned play write lawrence wright who stars in "the human scale" based on his reporting in gaza. mike barnicle was talking about reading "the looming tower"

again, still i think the most important book of the last decade. that started with you on stage talking about what you learned. >> after i finished that book, i decided to do is one-man play to relate to people what it was like for me, the experience of talking to these people and understanding where they came from, what they want. i wasn't a character in that book but i had experiences that i hadn't really sorted out for myself. that's how i got started in this kind of sideline of mine. >> talk about "the human scale." >> i spent a lot of time in the middle east. one of the real puzzles to me is why peace is so hard to obtain. you think both sides have so much more interest in peace than they do in this on going conflict which has gone on for so many generations, and so i went to gaza to take a look at the situation there. i found this story of this young

israeli soldier named alad shalid captured in 2006 who was held for ransom for 1,000 palestinian prisoners. just the disportion of one man versus 1,000 caught my interest. i thought if i can get to the story of why that has happened and what that means, i might be able to understand better why peace is so hard to obtain. >> what does that mean? >> for one thing, it means lives have become so skewed in terms of their actual value, that it becomes so personal. i think the thing that was most striking to me, how deeply personal this conflict has gotten. it's something in america we have a hard time understanding, the bitterness and rage and so on that is so infected in that region, that makes peace less

desirable than it ought to be. the tragedy continues to unfold. >> i keep thinking in reading your works and listening to you discuss this morning the human scale, there are great similarities in the middle east to some extent between the years of subdued violence and overt violence in northern ireland, where it became and remained so personal that you could walk shank hill road, the protestant section, up falls road into anderson town, protestant section and go to bali murphy, hugely irish catholic section, the people were the same. they were the same. but it was always something small scale personal, the umbrella that covered everything. >> mike, one of the things i talk about in this play is like in ireland, the jews and the spill stannians are the same

people, and it's something has been taken out of their discourse. oddly enough, i discovered that israel's first premier and second president wrote a book when they were here in 1918 about how the people who were occupying what would become the land of israel were not arab immigrants, but the remnants of jewish peasantry who converted to islam. general et sifts showed this several times over. this is the same people separated only by religion and culture as in ireland. they tend to think of themselves as being entirely different people. i think if the palestinians came to recognize that they actually have jewish roots, and if jews began to understand that as well, you might have some room for maneuver in that frozen part of the world. >> is there hope for peace any time soon? >> well, that's what i'm trying

to find out in this story. i think if you want to understand the middle east progress right now, in a visceral way, you have to go through a very dark place. that's what this play is. i don't want people to be under any illusion, this is a shattering story. it shows you how many obstacles there are in the way of peace. what's striking to me is how much this situation has deteriorated since this young man was born 20 years ago, the borders were open between gaza and israel. there were 100,000 gazans going to work every year in israel. that seems like a million years ago now. >> all right. if you're no new york city, you can catch lawrence in "the human scale" from now through october at the 3ld art and technology center. it looks amazing. thank you very much for being on

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yeah. that's america for you. welcome back to "morning joe," from one american to another american citizen who actually cares about this country's health, here is mayor bloomberg. >> and there's no denying that childhood obesity is an epidemic and there's no denying that it is hurting our children in low-income communities the most. and that's why today, we are joining with governor paterson to ask the united states department of agriculture to authorize a two-year program to eliminate sugar-sweetened beverages from allowable food stamp purchases. >> okay. that was new york city mayor michael bloomberg yesterday, announcing his latest effort to fight obesity. and along with new york governor david paterson, mayor bloomberg requested permission from the federal governments to bar city's 1.7 million food stamp users from spending them on soda and other sugary drinks, like the one we were just looking at. joining us now, the new york city health commissioner, dr.

thomas farlism also joining the table, cnbca's maria bartiromo. >> maria! >> in fairness, i think you care about this, too. >> if i do care about it let me just say right now, i will never admit it. >> all right. let's go there, because there's a lot of controversy, but the bottom line is we have an epidemic that is growing out of control. do we not? >> we actually have twin epidemics of obesity and diabetes. now in new york city one in eight adults has diabetes and there are many things contributing to that but probably nothing more contributing to it than consumption of sugar-sweetened bev rance. we think during this epidemic, the government shouldn't be subdiocesing a purchase of this product -- >> i get it. we all know what side of the issue i'm on. going to be transparent about t i will need questions to ask questions. having said that, minnesota tried this and it didn't work. there were serious problems just systemically and what makes this

different? >> the minneapolis proposal was different, much broader, included foods and not beverages and meant to be a permanent change of policy. the usda said, among other thing it didn't have the authority to make that change but they do have the authority to authorize a demonstration project to see what impact there is. that is what we are proposing two-year demonstration project. >> where does it stop though? i'm curious. i have a son who is diabetic, i understand the importance of this, but where does it stop? are hamburgers next? i remember people saying when they went after cigarettes, i said watch, they are going after fast food next, no, no they are going after fast food now. when does it stop? >> there is no product more associated with obesity and the rise in obesity than sugar-sweetened beverages. these are basically pure calories. >> did you not say the same thing about ice cream? >> doughnuts? >> once you get past sugar-swepted beverages it gets a lot harder to drought lean between healthy and unhealthy products. the evidence is not as strong for sugar water and association with obesity and this epidemic. >> i'm all for it, i think it is

a bold move and congratulations, the other side is it discriminatory against low-income folks. i'm a low-income person telling me my kid can't drink hawaiian punch and the rich kid k. >> they have to drink it but they have to pay for it drink it but it is more expensive. >> starting to basically attach to any type of entitlement some moral decisionmaking. once again, i'm for it but what is the flip side. >> the government said -- >> freedom infringement. >> i will regretfully defend this because diabetes, obviously, one of the biggest drains on the american taxpayer in medicaid and medicare. and this feeds right into it. >> this is a nutrition program it is not a cash assistance program. and so in the name of nutrition, we shouldn't be subsidizing a product we know is making people sick. not doing them any favor, the people who are suffering from owe by the and diabetes are particularly low-income people. >> but would you also recommend

a similar approach to burgers and hot dogs and doughnuts, like was said? >> no we would discourage people from eating things, as far as the food stamp program, we are limiting this proposal to sugar-swepted bev rance, things pretty much pure calories. >> dr. farley, do you have evidence, data, knowledge, that this could work, help literally bring the weight down, especially among children who we have talked about on the show, i have seen walking down the street holding big gallon soda pops. >> hugement. >> we are out of control. we know we have a problem, yet some people don't want restrictions like this. do you have evidence that could convince the american public that this could actually work? >> there have been studies done where people have been randomly assigned to reducing their consumption of sugar-swepted beverages and those that do see the reduction in weight they gain or weight loss. we can make a dent in the obesity epidemic. the question is whether the policy will reduce the consumption of those products and what the demonstration

project is about, test it out and see. >> what about getting schools involved. where is the cull pan bill knit terms of schools right now you go into some of these school lunchrooms and is just awful what they are serving. >> haven't they banned from a lot of the schools -- >> the quality of food in new york city, you can't now sell sugar-swepted bev rance can't give out sugar-swepted beverages at schools in new york. >> there is another side to that he though, that is a fact, i have said this time and again, i feed on the diet of cap'n crunch and coca-cola growing up, then again, at 8:00 in the morning, my mom pushed us out the door we played all day, came home and played until 8 at night. i will join you in this crusade full join me in a crusade that schools need to have long p.e.. dead serious. kids have to get out and at least break a sweat for 30 minutes a day, 45 minutes a day. that is as big of a problem as anything they put in their mouths. i was talking to a guy on our staff who i said go take your son out for a walk right now.

go make -- because these kids respect moving. >> tj's fat himself. so he is not going to get his kid -- >> they are eating horrifically. dr. farley, thank you so much. >> okay. >> thanks to the mayor as well. i hope it works. we need some help with this. coming up, john lennon would have turned 70 years old this saturday. we are going to look become on his life and the plans to celebrate the music icon. we will be right back. ♪ where'd you learn to do that so well. ♪ ♪ where'd you learn to do that so well. ♪ the new cadillac srx. the cadillac of crossovers. cadillac. the new standard of the world.

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♪ let me take you down >> strawberry fields, the 2 1/2 acre in new york city, pays tribute to the great john lennon. he lived with his wife, yoko ohno, in the dakota apartments near central park there december 8, 1980, he was shot dead. tomorrow, john lennon would have turned 70 years old. joining us now to discuss the beatles' legends life and music, leading beatles historian martin lewis, teamed one harvey weinstein on the biopic "nowhere boy" and michael leff steen, "american masters, lennon nyc, john lennon's time in new york" and contributing editor for rolling stone magazine, alan light,ed us for the special edition on the beatles' 100

greatest songs. >> michael, let me start with you, i wanted to do this a couple weeks ago because i knew that who are riverviewic date was coming up. >> right. right. >> and i don't want actually it to come up, 30 years it sun imaginable. >> nice the focus has shifted. >> so we wanted to focus on the birthday. lennon would have turned 70 today. and for all of us all of us obsessed on the beatles, as i have since i was young, a great gift for john lennon and his fans this weekend. >> yeah it is wonderful. i'm director for the pbs series american masters, a film called "lennon nyc" the last decade of john's life, this sort of period that he left the beatles and sort of found himself as individual artist and all the way to the end. on saturday, at summer stage theater, we are going to have a free screening of "lennon nyc"

for all of energy to come down, doors will open at six, the film will start at seven, a great way for people to come, celebrate his birthday, celebrate his life and to watch documentary and lou reed is going to come out to introduce the film. so, it is a nice, positive way to remember john and to -- mark his birthday. >> the thing i love listening to him in interviews and i listen to him from time to time, he was a little kid when he talked about new york. >> he loved new york. >> enthralled by it. this guy had seen the world, seen everything, he moved to new york and it just hooked him, pulled him n. >> new york offered him something no other city did which was freedom, an opportunity to not be beatle john, not be acod all the time. the press in england was just brutal to yoko.

it was '70s left for dead, moved into a one-bedroom apartment on bank street in the west village. people talk about driving down 8th avenue. and yoko and john -- >> hailing a cab. he pulled over, said what are you doing, our beatle, get in my car, where you going and took him up to east harlem? >> still, i would -- my wife and i were going to see a movie on a weekend and there was yo co-ohno in the theater, something you don't see in the mall in pensacola, florida. let me bring you in, morton. what are your thoughts as we come up on this 70th birthday? >> the amazing thing about john lennon is how he reaches out to people, not just aging baby boomers like myself, but to young people. beatle fan conventions, i always find i'm the oldest person there. there are so many young kids who relate to john lennon what they

see in him is a young spirit there is this new movie coming out today, i think called "nowhere boy" shows john lennon, a young age, difficult teenaged years which forms him and those are the crucial years which makes his personality. and in that film, when i was watching it i realized that's why young people find him so engaging, because there's this spirit. he came from a very troubled childhood but he is not the first person to come from a troubled childhood, he wouldn't be the last. but what he did with all the anger and the pain he felt from his difficult family life is he channeled it into, a, making music and then into being an inspiring political activist and young people relit to that. it is a very inspiring thing. >> musicians always said, alan, you talk about that anger, the rage, the sadness, you listen to plastic and it is so stripped down but still supersonic, as good as it gets. >> that album, i think in particular is so unlike anything that anyone had ever done and people talk about the

confessional singer/songwriters in the '70s but nobody who confessed the way that john did. took his own -- >> he had more to lose. he was superstar john and he killed. he killed the legend right there he said, i'm he a man and this is who i am. >> really the first person who write about his wife, his mother, his kid, to take his life and put that out there, you know, absolutely exposed on the table. these are things that we kind of take for granted now that musicians and all kinds of pop culture figures will talk about their personal lives and use them in their work in that way. >> he was the first. and god, he just went down a list. i don't believe in dylan, i don't believe in zimmermann. >> to open his first album after the beats broke up, first line on the album, "mother you had me, but i never had you." to come in with something so evocative and so personal and to begin his solo career that way and then all the way to the end, to double fantasy to writing

about his marriage and staying home and raising his kid and presenting himself as this house husband, people haven't seen that as a model from a grown man before either. >> one of the things that's really fascinating about john is because in rock 'n' roll, you expect everybody to be so machismo and dramatic but he was never frightened to expose his foibles, he would say i'm feeling so insecure or, you know, i have treated you badly, office jealous guy. these are emotions that a mature rock star would not normally do and i think so much stems, what i always find fascinating about john lennon is for a guy who was very progressive, always looking forward, so many of his songs, even at a young age, were looking back. in my life, he talks about you know, the places i remember all my life. in "help," he sings about when i was younger, so much younger than today. he is constantly looking at those formative years, the relationship with his mum and his up at and that is so much

what forms john lennon and shaped his world view and influence and inspired his song writing. >> mike? >> what strike a lot of people, i think and alan was talking about it is this sense that john lennon and the beatles, when you talk about american culture and music, there's cole porter in the '30s, sinatra in the '40s and early, but the beatles shall the stamp they have had on american life and american culture is overwhelming. >> yeah. and still. it's still. but here it's thing. john talks about it in our film it is american rock 'n' roll that changed his life. and you know, the early beatles stuff, they were consuming the evs, everly brothers and obviously elvis. i think that lennon would have moved in with elvis if he could. he loved elvis, the way we love the beatles. >> and the backstory on this, liverpool, a poor town.

>> yes liked new york so much. >> talked about getting all the singles from america. >> they called them cunard yankees. the other thing is because of that because of the way that he loved early rock 'n' roll so much, you know, john always hated his own singing voice. there's a reason that it's always drenched in echo and treatment and, you know, talk to george martin and talk to all his producers, they would just say he want to -- distort my voice, i don't like to hear it i don't like the sound of it because he didn't sound like elvis, he didn't sound like little richard. that is what meant everything -- he didn't compare himself to the '60s to his pierce. he wanted to be like his heroes and felt he came short. to mart.'spoint that mix of vulnerability and arrogance and struggling with himself and his legacy, people responded to that they can feel that. >> you also -- >> the irony of that, martin, the fact that what makes john lennon john lennon, what makes him still speak to so many

people is that john lennon of plastic band, the john lennon that strips down the voice. i'm exsited, martin, i just heard that yo co-ohno has been in the studio and they are redoing double fantasy and stripping down the tracks why are they stripping down the tracks? because yoko knows that john actually has a remarkable voice and she wants the world to hear his voice up front. >> that is absolutely right. i spent the last three weeks with john's original childhood friends and first band. they were called the watery men. of course that is the band that john started in high school. some of these guys were friends with him from the age of 5 and then paul and george joined and they were slightly better musicians than the other guys but those guys have reformed just to honor john and been on a tour and they went to the premiere of the fill am few days ago in new york. and yoko was so excited to meet them. i met up with yoko last week in l.a. and she was telling me what a thrill it was to see the

quarrymen. she was telling me she loves michael's film and also going on about how much she loved "nowhere boy." the word she said to me, people will love this film because john would have loved this film and she loves the quarrymen, been honoring. she likes the fact that the history is coming together. >> you know, you mentioned stripped down, the "double fantasy" stripped down came out this week. i don't know how you felt when it came out -- >> you know, it was the first -- it was the first album in five years, the first since "walls and bridges." it was clean. >> i was a teenager at the time, we are about the same age. i don't want a domestic bliss. this is a rock and roller. no, i'm losing you. i like that song. that was great. >> that was great. >> but you get olderer. this is the thing about john, he didn't care. i'm gonna just write about what's going on with me. i'm going to make sense of my life. you get older, you have kids, you get married, double fantasy. go back and the dialogue between

john and yoko. not just john's songs. >> listen -- >> that it's thing, the album. >> by the wake as a guy, i listened to it in '80. i was 17. you listen to it now, i'm 47 and listen to "beautiful boy" and you sit there and you go, oh, my god, now i know what every one -- before you cross the street, take my hand. >> i spoke to jack douglas who co-produced the record, prominent in michael's film and he said john wloechd people criticized that record and said it was too soft. he said any time people said it was, you know, domesticated, he was like, that's what i was going for. >>ky talk for a second about the other beatle though, because he is -- i'm going to defend paul mccartney, because mccartney has always taken crap for not being the revolutionary beatle and i just have to say this in paul's defense, he did it ten years earlier. >> sure. >> look at mccartney, look at the cover of mccartney. and mccartney said in '70s, it's

all about home, family, love. he got savaged. can you imagine doing that in 1970? i'm not saying -- >> helter-skelter, he could rock, too. >> he could. >> that is the thing. the thing about the beatles it is never as simple as you think it is. it is never -- this one is this way and this one is that way. it is the complexity that all of them brought that is the reason the records were so rich and hold up so brilliantly. >> like the relationships, so complex. mccartney said something he subject have said right after lennon died and it had to do with their last meeting where mccartney kept showing up on his doorstep and the last time, lennon said, hey, hey, i got a kid here, i got -- but they loved each other so deeply that only a brother could say that to a brother. >> there's a great story that bob grewen told me recently, he was at john and yokos at the

dakotas for christmas. the front bell rang and you can't get into the dakota without security, they call up. the door, and john and yoko flip out, they think it is the ins, '78 or so only the government can -- and they tell bob, you got to go answer the door if it is the government, we -- you know, he goes to answer the door and gets to the front dore and hears somebody singing christmas carols outside and he opens the door and it's paul and linda. >> wow. >> and he is like, i think you want the people, they are back in the kitchen. and so i think, you know, they -- they clearly reconciled. they were very close at the end. and i think that we like to think that they are still the sort of let it be kind of anger and angst. but they had made their peace. it gets to the impact and imprint they have had on our culture, all these years later, did yoko like paul, paul hate yoko? still talking about it what i want to know is how did lennon get to, like, buddy holly and

the crick et cetera and the all those things in the '50s. where did he hear them? >> two things, as joe said, it is liverpool and the connection between liverpool and new york was intimate. the cunard liner was going back forth and they called the people that worked on the liners cunard yankees. they got the 45s in new york city john talked when he came to new york it reminded him a little bit of liverpool. and then -- and radio luxembourg. on the bbc, they got it through the wireless, radio luxembourg in the middle of the night under their covers. >> math martin, there was that connection, that liverpool/new york connection, wasn't there? >> absolutely. that is exactly why john always talked about new york reminding him of liverpool because it is a rough city and it has a bustle. the quarrymen were telling me the other day that the whole thing that their passion was american music. it was he will advice. it was buddy holly. it was gene vincent, eddie cochran. and when they first heard that that is what made them so excited. john wanted to be elvis. and there's a great scene in the

movie i saw where john is in a movie theater and he is watching elvis on the big screen and then he is captivated by all the people around him are excited by elvis. and he says to his mum, he says, "why couldn't i be elvis?" his mum said "god saving you to be john lennon" it is an amazing scene. the other thing, tomorrow night in new york there is a big tribute concert with the quarrymen playing to john lennon but also, there are artists from the age of 9 to 90. pete seger is going to be there and a choir of 9-year-olds singing "give peace a chance." john lennon and the beatles appeal across the generation universe. >> that is what we talk about all the time, alan. >> as you know, come on before and said i have a 7-year-old who can list every beatles' song, every b side, every alternate, can play 30 songs on his guitar. >> my daughter -- >> see anyone else. >> you think that the world -- i don't think that is will is the

bit to hold the center of a culture wait that they could, you know? culture's gotten so big and so defuse. >> lady gaga. >> country music fan and a hip-hop fan don't have to talk to each other. everybody reacted to beatles. >> one my favorite lennon/mccartney stories was a "saturday night live" story. sitting there watching and lorne michaels goes on. some promoter said i will give beatles $1 billion to play. lorne michaels came on and said, you know, we scraped together some money, i think he held up a check for like $3,000. this is all we got but if you come and lennon and mccartney were watching in the dakota. and they actually thought about it for a second walking downstairs, should we do it? nah. be too hard to get a cab. but -- >> they loved it. >> alan, michael, thank you. >> guys, thanks for coming y'all wait to watch movies. >> saturday central park.

be there. >> we are just a few moments away from that big monthly jobs report. we are going to get insight from maria bartiromo. plus politico has an update on the pending ethics trials for maxine waters and charlie rangel. did democrats just catch a big break? and willie's week in review. find out which stories make the cut. but first, bill karins with a check on the weather. . saturday in central park is going to be gorgeous. see nice conditions this weekend, new york, and for that matter, up and down the east coast. first update on the airports with clear skies and the sunshine, very little wind, you wouldn't expect any problems. we don't have any. temperatures in the 50s right now, so it is a little bit cool but we will be a little bit warm they are afternoon. 77 for a high, d.c. to philly. what a great day this is going to be today. later this afternoon, we should top out in the 80s in the southeast. middle of the country, have record highs from minneapolis to the dakotas. even dallas near 90 today. you notice it continues, saturday, great, sunday looks great, too, one of the best fall weekends we are probably going to seem you are watching

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>> happy friday. >> the president is talk a lot about the influence of foreign money but we will talk about that after we talk about the ethics committee announcing it will begin ethics trials for new york congressman charlie rangel and california congresswoman maxine waters. >> yeah, mika, this might be the last big win for this democratic majority. they put off those trials, charlie rangel is going to be right after the election, november 15th. maxine waters of california, a little later, november 29th. and it is very rare for members not to settle with the ethics committee, very rare that you actually have a public trial like this, you will have evidence, witnesses, the whole deal, republicans have been pushing for a speedy trial. democrats won in the effort to get it after election day. >> okay. now the influence of foreign money in the campaigns. what is the president talking about? he touched on it? >> well this is fascinating this is going to be a big message for the president in weeks ahead and yesterday, in chicago, he

brought up karl rove, talking twice about karl rove in one speech and his connections to some of these republican outside groups, most notably american crossroads, the president talking about the influence. they are having him race it six, seven, eight times republican spending in races compared to democrats. the president also bringing up the idea that foreign money is getting into these through the u.s. chamber of commerce. this is a story that posted this week drawing attention to the chamber of commerce, foreign affiliates. democrats are trying to pull on the thread saying this could mean foreign money is coming to the elections as the president has warned in the past. >> the president raised $650 million in 2008, eclipsing all records. i think that is more money than george w. bush and john kerry combined raised four years earlier. why can't he raise as much money

as karl rove? >> raising a lot and going to raise more than $1 billion in 2012. flashing become to 2008, if you count in the money he raised for the dnc, it was $900 million. no question he can raise money. it is not about the money. you usually stay is not about the money it is. here, they feel like it is a great issue, a way for them to paint a sad face on the republican party, to suggest that there is a certain illegitimacy to the strong showing by republicans in these races, that money is coming into the races, some of it from outside the u.s. to interfere with the elections, the argument. >> mark halperin? >> it is a bank shot, get from rove to unemployment. easy for voters. democrats don't switch now to a middle class argument on economics, i think their losses will be much bigger than they will be right now. >> everybody knows obama raised

more money than anybody else, he can't carry this message, can he? >> no, to mark's point, it is unemployment, it is jobs. we talk in the media about the stuff, nuance, talked about this earlier, does the guy in pennsylvania or the woman in detroit who is out of work even understand this, no less give a crap about it? that is the bottom line. >> if he can't win an argument straight up and down, i'm better for jobs that the republicans, then he shouldn't be president, really. i mean, that is the only issue in this race to be talking about who is funding our campaigns and a lot of democrats agree with this, it is not a winning argument. >> hey, mike alan, thank you as always to be with us, we appreciate it. >> it was fun, thanks. >> always a great energy about him. i love it when he comes on. >> all those politico guys have an energy about them. i love them. >> they are just something going on in that newsroom. >> you know what it is? pixie stix. >> i love all of them except the guy that's got the cats. >> the cat guy.

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people were expecting a flat showing in terms of new jobs created and the fact that we actually saw a decline in jobs created is definitely worse than expected. i think we continue to have a very tough situation in terms of employment because business managers are very reluctant to add heads to the payroll. >> why is that? >> they are looking at 2011 and looking at higher expenses in terms of health care, looking the higher taxes and every time you put another head on the payroll that comes with a benefit package that is expensive. look what is happening with 29 companies including mcdonald's and others saying we are not going to pay for health insurance it is just too expensive. >> is it even worse? the gallup numbers show that actually it is closer to 10%, these numbers don't pick up the last two weeks of the month, the last two weeks of last moment were actually even worse and the real numbers -- >> so things are getting worse? >> it is getting worse. >> yeah, we are seeing the the economy deteriorate. we are definitely in a soft patch that resumed in summertime and we continue to sort of bump

around the bottom in that soft patch. going into the holidays, one positive here, we will see temporary hiring. but again that is not really giving you job security so it is not really going to do too much i think for consumer spending because if you are worry about your job, worried about your neighbor's job, of course not going to be spending a lot of money. >> do you know one ceo, 'cause i don't, who feels good about what's coming the next couple of years? i do not -- you talk to any smart business person, any ceo of any fortune 50, fortune 500 or small company -- >> donny, let town is there you are a progressive, you voted for president obama. >> mm-hmm. >> you are a democrat, probably never voted for a republican presidential candidate before in your life. talk about what you hear from your democratic friends that run companies as to why they are not hiring new people. >> they are not hiring because they are not bullish on the economy. and basically, the only way you can hit your quarterly numbers is by slashing. >> why are they not bullish on the economy? >> not seeing end market demand as the bottom line.

>> that really s. >> afraid about obama, afraid about taxes. and there is just -- >> democrats, progressives? >> yes. >> obama's following? >> and the american psyche is still not recovering. i don't know if it is. >> the reason i'm going to you, every time i bring this up, there will be progressives that send nasty e-mails and saying that because you are conservative. >> no you are right. >> you listen to republican ceos, 'cause i know how they feel. i always talk to democratic ceos, the most powerful men and women in america that runt biggest companies who are democr democrats, never voted for republicans. >> maria will tell you the same thing, i cannot tell you the amount, not going to mention names, but they -- they weren't at the town hall, weren't going i'm disappointed, weren't at that up to hall but their own town halls, sake the same thing. >> they want the president to show that he has a plan to fix the economy, not just track -- trash republicans, not just say we can't go become to bush, that

he has a plan to dole with the uncertainty on taxes, health care, energy, immigration, the national debt. he is not doing that. he is not giving even democratic business people a sense, keep, state course with the obama policies and there will be a way out of this. >> maria, you will always have democrats that challenge you, what would you do to fix the economy? what would do you to fix the economy? right now, i'm going to say it again, democratic ceos that debitted me on obama for two years are now saying if you just did nothing, he is a net negative now on the uncertainty about taxes. it is a net negative on the uncertain it at the about health care. it is a net negative on the regulatory uncertainty. these are all net negatives. you can actually do something good for the economy by taking the uncertainty away. and by the way this is not to help the rich. this is to help working class get back on payrolls.

urge you need policies coming out of washington that actually suggest and incement advise business to create new positions. government cannot create jobs. jobs come from businesses, small businesses, large business and they are not going to do so if they have all of these higher expenses in the next couple of years. >> which brings us to health care and how that costs these companies and the mcdonald's story and other companies. what's the back story with what you think happened there? and do you think the white house got involved? >> i don't know, mika. i think you would know better than me on that i think companies, mcdonald's and many others, are looking that the and saying this had is a lot more expensive than i thought. >> oh, by the way, guess what the teachers a unions as well are getting feet pass that mcdonald's is getting because it is more expensive than they thought. >> the onus is on the individual, is what they are trying to do if you want health coverage, tough pay for it so it is going to be expensive, more expensive for individuals. this is not what the

administration expected in terms of health coverage. >> mark halperin this is what drives me -- makes me crazy about this administration, they were warned by business people, by big ceos. listen, if you put this in here, wait this is designed, you are encouraging me to opt-out of this system. they were wand time and time and time and time again. >> the way our system works, they are about to pay a political price because their voters going to vote against this law. >> jobless rate of 9.6, maria, thank you very much. coming up what pakistan's deep history of political assassinations means for the future of that country. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 what if every atm was free? tdd# 1-800-345-2550 no more $2, $3 fees. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 no more paying to access your own money. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 it'd be like every atm in the world was your atm. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 the schwab bank high yield investor checking(tm) account. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 zero atm fees. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 a great interest rate. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 no minimums.

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welcome back to morning joe. joining us now, a woman who has seen much violence in her young life. she writes about her father, who was assassinated and their family's tragic history in pakistan in her new book "songs

of blood and sword, a daughter's memoir" thank you very much for coming on the show. so, how did you even begin to try to put this all to paper? why did you decide to write this book? >> i wrote this book buss of the cycle of violence we seem to live with in pakistan t is part of the political ethic of the country. it certainly would seem that wake at least for those of us who witnessed the last 20 years in pakistan, but what seems to joint violence is the silence and it was important for me, at least to break that. >> and your father wanted you to write. >> he did. a story about his life before he was assassinated. he asked you to? >> well, i was speaking to him, i was 14 years old, late at night and i said your life has been so fascinating, you should write a become and he said, i can't, they would kill me if i said what i knew. and he said it jokinglism he said when i'm gone, you know, many years from now, you do it. and that was just hours before he was killed really. >> tell me where you were and

how you heard about your father being assassinated. >> i was inside the family home in karachi. i heard the firing and they were left -- there were policemen on the road and they prevented us from leaving our house. i heard be -- it was my aunt's husband, the kur respect president of pakistan who told me that my father had been shot on the phone. >> why do you think that this country -- we have a lingering impression of pakistan as a country where violence is nearly epidemic on an every day basis and now it involves us, obviously? >> india there is a civil war going on in india, whether it is

sri lanka, seen journalists killed really quite openly in recent years or bangladesh. it seems that violence is part of the politics of these countries. and pakistan, the violence is very able be to mutate and shift and we have seen it change. just yesterday in karachi, there was an attack on a shah ryan. it is unstoppable at this point, we would seem. >> all incredibly sorry for the personal losses you have and the fact that you have been able to write about them, so such a strong way. where is the middle class in your country? why isn't there a middle class demanding for their children and their daily lives that there be more peace and more -- less chaotic government situation, military situation? >> pakistan is a feudal country and there is a certain amount of damage to the political class in the country, there is no overstating how much damage that has cause bud also looking at country so tremendously centralized politically. we don't call them elections, we

call them selections, when we are lucky enough to have them. you have a system that is not deinvolved at all, 180 million people who have no voice, tremendous amount of women outside the process they don't have identity cards they can't vote in an election. >> what is the cause? we just showed a picture of these little children on the front page of "the new york times." >> yes. >> show it again. just heartbreaking picture. what -- what is causing the endless cycle of violence? >> the shrine that was hit, the patron same of karachi, as it, were a landmark, how anyone can justify that is beyond me, but you know, we have seen attacks on the government. we have seen attacks on military bases, on barracks, on police stations.

that has intensified and people feel this is a government that represents foreign interests it is a government that serves a foreign power and not its people a great amount of attacks seem to speak to that frustration. there are also reaction, i suppose, against the tremendous amount of deaths we have seen in the last month, especially, but the last two years, coming from predator and reaper drones, from the war on terror. and terrorment isn't mutable. >> what do you think from your time here in the united states the misconceptions are about your country? >> i think the misconception this somehow represents pakistan this little violence, because pakistan is an incredibly diverse country it is a tolerant country but it is home to people of maniette hisities and many religions. they are not the sort of fundamentalists that we see in the news, nor are they sort of the corrupt auto crafts that you s -- autocrats that you see in

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