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embarrassing tape sur foofs a democratic operative calling meg whitman one very unflattering name. good morning, everyone t is friday, october 8th, 2010, i'm savannah gut rib, chuck todd is off this morning. let's get right to the run down. we are going to have more on those unemployment numbers in a minute. also expecting the president to react to the job numbers later this morning but the white house has been trying to hard to draw attention to a different kind of hurricane the millions of dollars being poured into republican campaigns by outside groups. here is the president in illinois last night. . the american people deserve to know who is trying to sway their election, just stand by and allow special interest to silence anybody who has got the guts to stand up against them, our country is going to be a very different place. >> nbc's mike viqueira is live on the white house north lawn for us this morning. vick, obviously going to heart president reacting to the 9.6 unemployment rate later this morning but the white house is trying to draw attention to this
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issue of outside funding to republican campaigns. tell us about t. well, you are absolutely right and talked about it a lot on this show, starting with a group run by karl rove and ed gillespie say they are not running it, they found it had, called american crossroads, millions of dollars being mured these elections by these outside groups and robert gibbs yesterday complaining from the podium as president obama did yesterday, twice at rallies in maryland and in chicago against these groups. you know, a lot of people were talking about the ineptitude of the rnc, particularly under michael steele. they are lagging behind, having to borrow money, the dnc, the congressal campaign committees on the democratic side raking in the money relative to what the republicans are doing, an official party capacity but outside groups are more than make you the difference, savannah, has democrats worried, railing time and time again it all spells from that citizens united case at the supreme court where it struck down a law that outlawed or banned these kinds of practices that we are seeing today.
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all about the air waves, this final push less than a month from the election. republicans now not only hitting democrats for john mccain, normally republican districts, the low-hanging fruit but also districts that respect necessarily going to go into the republican column, spending money anyway trying to wind the playing field and perhaps looking down the road to some of these candidates who have statewide or national ambitions trying to take them down a notch, savannah. >> nbc's mike viqueira on the white house north lawn for us. thanks. in california, the race for governor has taken another ugly turn. democratic candidate jerry brown is now apologizing for a voicemail recording in which he and a democratic operative discussed brown's opponent, meg whitman, in very unfortunate terms.
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>> nbc's deputy political director, mark, we can't say the word on television it rhymes with "war." one campaign calls it salty lang warning the other says unforgivable smear. what is the backstory here? >> i'm call together w-word, the easiest way to describe it now, another day in the contest. brown and an associate were caught on an audiotape basically trying to win over an endorsement from a police union.
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we heard that very unfortunate word and had it has the potential to change the dynamics of a race that whitman is trailing right now, according to most polling. and it could help her with some female voters, which always is a key voting block. however, it could undermine one of which theman's biggest arguments against brown now, he is in the pocket of unions and special interests. on this audiotape, he is looking at whitman perhaps cutting a deal. so we will see how it plays out. back to you. >> all right. and back to another little miniscandal on the campaign trail. in west virginia, there were these ads that the republican candidate for senate would cast actors for and now there's been some fallout to that just give us the backstory on what happened now. >> the back story, the national republican senatorial committee started running an ad in west virginia tying joe manchin to west virginia and used some actors. they were supposed to look like west virginia residents but turned out that they were actually folks and actors from
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philadelphia and maybe stereotyping west virginiians. the national republican senatorial committee has pulled that ad. it is no longer going to be running. but certainly, a little bit black eye for the republicans in this contest. >> yeah. all right. deputy political director, all the news from our newsroom this morning, thanks. turning now to today's big number, one you can bet republican candidates will be citing again and again until election day, unemployment not budging, holding stead date 9.6% in september as the economy loses another 95,000 jobs, more than expected. cnbc's trish regan joins us now. so trish, how do you expect wall street to react to this and was this worse than analysts have forecast? >> savannah it actually came in pretty much on target. nobody was expecting this to be a great report. i can tell that you hourly earnings and the private payroll numbers were somewhat below consens consensus, but overall, you know it held steady at 9.6% that sort
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of was within line of expectations. the other reality here we did see a little bit of improvement in the last two revisions. so, all in, it is not a huge surprise for anyone on wall street and actually, believe it or not, salve rap nah that is kind of a good thing today because traders are looking at what's called quantitative easing from the fed there is an expectations that the fed is going to continue to keep interest rates near zero. there is an expectation that the fed is going to continue essentially what some have called printing money, where they are out there buying up treasury bonds, helping to flood the system with liquidity. that, for the market, at least in the very near term there is a lot of long-term consequences that we could talk about today but we won't, trade loirks to know that money is going to be easy and acceptable, as long as employment looks weak, the fed is going to have to step up to the plate. >> trish regan from cnbc, thank you. coming up, more on the impact of
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today's job report on the economy and midterm races after this first block. but for now, we will go on. a stunning new report out from capitol hill finds some private guards in afghanistan hired to protect american military bases have been found to have ties to taliban militants. nbc's jim miklaszewski joins us from the pentagon. jim what is this all about? >> savannah, the u.s. military pentagon officials have known about this problem for several years but to see it all compiled into one report really does bring home how serious the problem is some examples, private contractors have to pay local warlords protection money, $1,000 a truck for convoys that may pass through their territory but half that money is then turned over to the taliban and in some cases, private security guards, afghans, are actually in cahoots with iranians in providing iran information on u.s. military activities. now, even senator carl levin, even though he says this is a
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serious problem, recognizes it as part of the doing business in afghanistan. tough hire afghans. they know the local population shall the territory much better than americans ever ever would and provide more protection than problems, actually. but nevertheless, secretary gates has appointed to two task forces to deal with this problem and try to get it under control. again it is the same kind of problem that the u.s. military experienced in iraq. they are seeing it here in afghanistan and while a problem official stays is not out of control. >> jim miklaszewski at the pentagon. thank you. >> okay. in chile, this could be the day those stranded miners have been waiting for. we may be hours away from when rescue crews are able to punch through the also few fete of rock to reach those 33 people trapped underground for more than two months now nbc's kerry sanders is live for us in chile
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this morning. we can hear the work behind you, kerry. had you close are they? >> less than 200 feet. [ inaudible ]
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>> all right, nbc's kerry sanders in chile, a little hard to make out what he said, but the bottom line, very, very close to reaching those miners at long last. well, coming up, the last unemployment report before the midterms. does it mean more democrats will be looking for jobs themselves? up next, the impact today's report could have on the economy and the elections. plus -- >> i have never hired an illegal immigrant, nor has any company that i own. >> lou dobbs fights back after allegations the immigration crusader hired undocumented workers himself. plus, dramatic license or just bad taste? the new docudrama in britain imagining prince harry as a taliban hostage. does it go too far? but first, a lock ahead at the president's schedule. you are watching "the daily rundown" here on msnbc. [ j. weissman ] it was 1975. my professor at berkeley asked me if i wanted to change the world.
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unemployment, unchanged at 9.6% and that maybe the good news, for some any watch the numbers in the last hour show the economy still stuck in neutral, 95,000 more jobs gone and private sector hiring disappointing even low expectations. with us now, financial columnist for the "washington post," steven pearlstein and cnbc's senior economics reporter, steve liesman. welcome to you both. steve.i will start with you. we were just talking before the break, this is kind of the new normal, unemployment just absolutely not budging. >> ground hog day. if has gone on and going to go on for a while unemployment number not changing much, private sector producing to
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100,000 jobs a month, that is better than a negative number but it is not enough to keep the unemployment rate even where it is, it will start to rise if we don't create more than 125,000 jobs a month just because new people coming into the workforce. >> we have private sector growth, as we all know it could have been worse, but wasn't wall street, more analysts expecting better growth in the private sector? >> yeah, they were expecting around 75, we got 64,000. but the big story here, savannah, which is a big story for you guys in washington, is the 76,000 jobs that were shed at the state and local government level. that creates a huge policy debit in washington as to how much additional aid with the federal government, see the state government shed jobs, even though their government jobs, jobs nonetheless and impact on the private sector because there is a lot of people who do business with the state governments.
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obviously that is going away, too, so some also loss as well in the private sector from what is happening at the state and local level. >> steven? >> one wrinkle on that. that is worrisome, i think trend will continue. this particular month is the month of september and most of those state and local jobs were local school jobs so that's what happens is when you do the monthly adjustments, september is the month when they look at, you know, the school starts and a lot of the teachers weren't there. 76,000 of them i think weren't there and so, that's -- that may be a one-time number but the general trend, steven, is right, is down and, you know, republicans tend to think, well, losing government jobs is a good thing. well, we will see about that. >> then i can see this policy debate developing. in fact, we have already had it because the obama administration has, from time to time, said all right, let's give some more money to states, aids to states but getting any spending bill through is a nonstarter. i mean, now we are obviously out of session until after the midterms anyway as much there any political appetite to help states, steven?
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>> the only idea that i have seen around is we will give states and local more money if they can get their pension obligations, their pension benefits down, so long-term, they are not in such bad shape. sort of a deal, we will give states more money to those states that have their own budget he is in order, to those states that don't, california a good example, we won't give it to you until you do a sort of carrot and stick approach. >> steve, diagnose the problem here. bottom line, why is this economy not producing jobs? why respect companies hiring at a time when a lot of them, frankly, are seeing profits? >> well, i think the first question -- start to answer that question, we are coming off the biggest financial crisis in the postwar period or since the great depression. i think that echoes this year. it is going to echo next year and several years to come. i think what history has shown is bouncing back to tot financial crisis takes a very long time. more specifically what you look
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at is all the business surveys, savannah, show the uncertainty surrounding business starts in the first place with uncertainty over customers coming through the door. they are just not sure the demand is there to hire and to invest. in the second order what the survey shows, uncertainty over politics, over the tax rate and over what washington policy is going to be. so, those two legs of uncertainty are a big part of what's happening, plus off crisis that remains within the banking system that makes it difficult to get credit. >> what about -- we are talking about consumer spending, we all know, steven it is two-thirds of our economy. there was some hope, wasn't there that retail sales were looking better recent labor day that forecasters were hoping for a better holiday season this year than last? >> right. and it might, in fact, be a better holiday season, the high stock market gets at least high-income people out and they do account for a disproportionate amount of retail sales, the long-term picture, as steve says, was not good we were consuming a lot more than we produced during the bubble and right now, households
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are holling back their consumption, particularly their debt finance consumption so that we produce -- we consume a little bit more equal to what we produce and that process is going to be a drag on the economy for years come. you don't -- you don't go from spending 106% of what you earn to 98% of what you earn without it having an effect on demand and retail sale he is and on the economy. >> and last thing, steve, i mean, obviously, we know as a political matter there is not much congress seems to be willing to do. what can the federal reserve do? >> well there is a huge debate inside the federal reserve, where i am right now, by the way, at the st. louis federal reserve bank and the issue that's going on within the fed is whether or not it should step forward and provide additional assistance to the economy by purchasing assets and really flooding more money into the economy. there's quite a bit of support for and we will be looking and listening very closely, early november. by the wake the first day of the federal's two-day meeting is election day and they will announce their de six the day
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after election day, but there is some expectation in the market that the the federal veer love come forward and print more money and try to kick start the economy by lowering interest rates additionally. >> all right. well, steve leaseman, i wondered where you were, in st. louis at the federal reserve bank, always where the action is. thank you. and steven pearlstein from the "washington post," i appreciate your time. coming up, imagining the worst. did british television cross the line again with a new docudrama depicting the royal family's worst nightmare? and the case of a couple allegedly attacked by mexican pirates takes a turn in texas. the border sheriff sends a message to a notorious drug cartel, give us back the body. first, let's do our washington speak. pocket veto. this is by popular demand a all right of people were wondering, forgot from civics class. the pocket veto is went president effectively vetoes a bill refusing to sign t -- it.
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dangerous. what would it look like if prince harry were taken prisoner by insurgents in afghanistan? well, how about this? according to a new documentary, the taking of prince harry that will air this month, aiming to show how britain would handle such a thing. for now, it is the program itself finding pretty awful. >> yes, of course it is in poor taste, a lot of people have been killed in these hostage situation. >> reporter: the docu drama, emphasis on the drama will show 26-year-old army pilot harry, captured, forced to appear in taliban propaganda and in a mock execution in which an unloaded gun is pointed at his face and one of his captors pulls the trigger. we have got the sort of -- >> retired army commander spoke out this morning on a popular british morning news show. >> i have seen lots of people who have come out from hostage situations. in fact, i have brought a hostage out. i tell you what they feel like, absolutely terrified. absolutely completely terrified. and i think it's -- i just don't like it being put into some
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drama documentary which actually appeals just to get the television ratings up. >> reporter: the program will also mention the young prince's nickname, bullet magnet, during the months in 2008 when did he serve on the front lines in afghanistan. when his posting there became public, he was rushed home out of serious security concerns. harry has always wanted to return. >> i would love to go back. i mentioned it. i want to go very, very soon. >> reporter: now even some royal watchers say what is the big deal about a work of fiction on an interesting topic? >> brutally honest, at a time when harry was in afghanistan, the taliban were very vocal, vocal in he said, avenues number one target, somebody they would love to capture and torture and make an example of, the queen's grandson. i don't think giving anybody ideas. this is a pest of drama and it should be taken as such. >> reporter: people experts in this these things, security situation, highly unlikely harry would be sent back to afghanistan to serve but here on
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the homefront, he has his security detail increased in light of recent terror alerts in europe. savannah? >> all right, michelle kosinski in london. thank you. coming up, threats from drug cartels threatened to stall the search for an american allegedly shot by mexican pirate. plus, the president's tough love for the left. how is old stop whining message playing with the base? arianna huffington joins us live. and did the man who railed against illegal immigration hire illegal workers with himself? lou dobs delivers his defense on msnbc. but first, today's trivia question from the almanac of american politics. who is the currently the longester issing governor in the united states? the answer ahead "the daily rundown." i'm done with airline credit cards
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bottom of the hour now, a quick look at what's driving the day on a friday. the opening bell ringing on wall street just now. investors are watching how the market will react to the latest jobs report, smoke the unemployment rate holding stead date -- steady at 9.6%. this is the last report before the midterm elections. florida's candidates for november nor will meet face-to-face the first time, their debate in spanish and english and debates for ohio and wisconsin, senate races there the south carolina's governor's race, too. don't be alarmed if you see more security than usual while riding the rails today it has nothing to do with increased terror threats in europe. in fact, amtrak is actually running a previously scheduled security training drill called rail safe. other stories making headlines today, police in anaheim, california, now say an amber alert issued over the night for two boys is a parental abduction. police believe 4-year-old jacob and his 2-year-old brother, justin, were taken by their
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father. the boys were snatched from the front of their home last night. the knots berry farm amusement park in california is investigating the cause of a roller coaster accident that injured ten people on thursday. officials say two cars collided in the loading area. all of the injuries were minor. chilean miners under ground for two months could be days away from freedom now the escape shaft could be finished as early as tomorrow. once rescuers reach the miner it is lick will take a few more dies bring them to the surface. the 2010 nobel peace prize was just awarded to imprisoned chinese dissent leo shabo, honored for his long and nonviolent struggle for human rights in china. the chinese government is criticizing the choice saying the noble committee is honoring a "criminal." well, in texas, the case of a couple allegedly attacked on a border lake by pirates is heating up. texas officials are now issuing demands to a notorious mexican
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drug cartel to return the body of a missing american man. tiffany hartley says her husband was shot and killed by mexican pirates while they were jet skiing last week on mexico's side of lake falcon. the area has been the center of a turf war between that cartel -- between the gulf cartels and the zeta drug cartel in that area. nbc's janet shamlyian is live in mckeown, texas, talking to you the last 30 days it seems, janet and just keeps take morgue twists and turns. >> absolutely does. we are here at falcon lake where the search for david hartley's body has been hampered because there have been threats of an ambush on the searchers from the drug cartels. in fact, they had to suspend the search for a time yesterday. he directly reached out to the cartels, he says, the fact there will be no penalty, no prosecution, no repercussions
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for the return of the american's body. this is the search on the mexico side of falcon lake for the body of david hartly, beyond the helicopter, mexico says it has several boats in the water and as many as 60 officers working the case. >> we just want a body. we cannot prosecute anybody for what happened in mexico. we just want a body. that said, i did send word to the cartel in mexico, send word to them unofficially, what ya tell you how, but word to them. >> reporter: tiffany hartley's life jacket was stained with blood, tape ises she likely got when she he tried pull her husband onto her jet ski. she ultimately left him behind in a bid to save her own life. u.s. officials are using observation towers to monitor the search in mexico, which was suspended for a time after
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reports of a possible ambush from the cartels. >> we have an american citizen who was gunned down on international waters. >> that riled texas governor rick perry who has been critical of mexico's response. >> i'm not satisfied. when you call off a search the way they did this morning and give as the reason because the drug cartels are in control of that part of the state, something's not right. there is little they can do but watch and wait at home. tiffany hartley said last night she would be willing to take a lie detector test if people continue to question her version of events but savannah, authorities haven't asked her to do so at least haven't asked her to do so yet. we will have to wait and see
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what happens yet. >> janet shamlyian in mccallen, texas, this morning thank you. president obama is kicking the campaign schedule into high gear. the white house announcing that he and first lady michelle obama will gather at a rally this month, all an effort to get disaffected democrats to show up at the polls on november 2nd. huffington post co-founder and editor-in-chief arianna huffington author of "third world america, how our politicians are abandoning the middle class and betraying the american dream" she joins us now. great tough, arianna. >> good morning, savannah it is great to be with you. >> so let's talk about effort to energize the base. you well know sometimes spokesperson for the left and for progressives that there is some disappointment on the left with president obama. but are you saying in essence that democrats shouldn't go out to the polls, that there's no reason to go out will and vote for democrats? >> no of course not.
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nobody is saying that continuing to look at what is going on in the country now as a left versus right issue is completely obsolete, completely wrong, i'm here in atlanta, traveling around the country. people are really hurting. we sought numbers today, more jobs lost by the government, not enough jobs were added by the private sector, even to move the needle. so we are still at 9.6% 26 million people out of work or underemployed. the people worry they are going to be next that is the probt democrats are facial a matter of fact, not a matter of ideology. the economy is going tonight key factor in this election. the american dream is dying for millions of americans and no sense of urgency coming out of
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washington and why people are so angry and in so much despair. >> no question about it you mention washington failing, you put president obama in that category as well as not doing enough on jobs or simply unable to do anything more than he has already done? >> congress could have brought the sense of urgency that was brought to saving wall street to saving main street. big solutions from across-the-board. the republicans want a payroll tax holiday, let's have that the democrats want a national infrastructure bank to really
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create jobs by also rebuilding our infrastructure. a green bank to be able to reinvent our economy around renewable energy jobs. there is an enormous amount that can be done but not doing it and absolutely no plan at the moment that's going to get us out of where we are, mired in the mud when it comes to jobs. >> and last thing, become to politics for a second i'm sure you are aware of the comments by president obama recently saying that the democrats need to buck up and get to the polls, even if they feel he could have done more. you certainly know what vice president said, to the left, stop whining. do you think this is an effective message? >> first of all, the people should go to the polls, two choices in most races and there's no question that for most working people, middle class people in this country, to put the republicans back in charge doing the same thing they did for the last eight years and brought the country to the brink of disaster would be a lousy
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idea. but that's not enough. the question is are the democrats going to address are the fundamental structure of problems in this country in the way that they haven't done in -- since they have been in power when it comes to jobs and when it comes to foreclosures? >> all right. arianna huffington, author of "third world america" and also i should sign the cover of "forbes," one of the most powerful women. they call you a force of nature. we thank you for being with us much we appreciate it. >> thank you, savannah. well, moving on, a new report in the nation alleges that lou dobs, who has crusaded against illegal immigration on television and radio for years actually hired undocumented workers to care for properties in new jersey and florida and also show jumping horses that he ounce. dobs responded to those allegations last night on the last word with lawrence o'donnell.
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>> that means you have hired these illegal workers working at your home, doesn't it? if what they are telling her is true? >> i would say that that is categorically wrong, it failslogically and just straightforward causality. the only person who would have been illegal in any context would have been a landscaper who was working for the contractor working on my house in florida. that may have happened. that suspect my employee nor is it the reason i would have contracted with that landscaper. the reality is this, there is a law against you or me inquiring about a legal status for a person in this country unless we are par 'tises in e e es -- par in a 287 g, law enforcement or a response guilt border. you are suggesting, as some advocates would say, a nativist outlook you are going to demand
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to know what a person's status is. that is a violation of their rights. >> all right, lou dobs on the last word with lawrence o'donnell. you can watch it week nights, 10:00 eastern, right here on msnbc. okay, let's do our trivia who is current lit longest serving governor in the united states? the answer is north dakota governor john hovan, he was sworn into office on december 15, 2000, just six days before the second longest-serve governor, republican rick perry of texas. coming up, president obama, vice president biden on the road trying to rally the base but republicans still hold a wide lead in the money race. up next, the weekly readout with the "washington post's" ann corn blus. and at national journal's major garrett. and coming this up sunday on "meet the press," the kickoff of the senate debate series. alexy giannoulias versus mark kirk this sunday. first, the white house soup of the day, serving corn and crab chowder on a friday.
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they are posing as nonprofit, nonlit political groups. they got names like americans for prosperity or the committee for truth and politics or moms for motherhood. actually the last one i made up. >> is it catching to on? here to discuss that and more for our weekly readout, ann corn bl -- ann kornbluth and major general. we know the money has been pushing this narrative hard for
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months, this notion that republicans are having their campaigns funded by these nefarious outside groups. >> from the moment the citizens united case was decided, we heard them saying money and politics is going to be a major push for us it is not every day that the white house is giving us story ideas but this has been one they have been soliciting. now we hear, both the president and yesterday we talked to david plouffe, it is dangerous for democracy and this really resonate. i know the times we have been out on the campaign trail, listening to the president speak this is a line that democrats love and really working. >> democrats love it? >> democrats love it been responding, donating more to counter the force this is not about money so much as a look of disclosure that is the key issue here. money is always going to be sloshing around american politics, not going to stop no supreme court decision is going to dramatically at they're terrain. this is nondisclosed, is righters conditioned find out who is bankrolling the organizations and that is why the key issue and inspired democrats to volunteer more, dominate more almost it determine the election, change voters' minds? i tend to doubt it these i shall
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bruce debated like this tend not to change voters mind bus on the -- >> it seems like an issue washington can love but does it resonate at all with the electorate? worry about their own jobs, for example? >> if they were trying to energize liberals at this point, democratic base three weeks out this will resonate with some of them. not. doubt. >> let's talk about the expectations game. bizarre. major, you write this in the national journal, saying a little bit bizarre with with democrats, "how many balloons do you order for a party celebrating nearly 40 house democratic losses? are confetti cannons an appropriate response to retaining the house majority by a slender margin of one, two, or three seats?" for you, let's talk about the democrats, even if they hold on -- >> holding on feels like a victory. >> right. >> i mean it they want to have -- this there is this debit do we celebrate holding onto the house because that would be where they are now a victory. >> dozens of seats. >> losing upwards of 39, 40 seats overall, maybe not 40 net,
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maybe only 37 or 36 or 35 net but that right now constitutes victory for house democrats dem david puff said yesterday if republicans don't run the table, take over the senate, the house and the big ticket governors, it's an absolute failure. come on, come on. >> you just love the democrats. they all love to set expectations for each other. briefing reporters and saying anything less than running the table is a joke for republicans. >> he said it with a straight face. democrats have done nothing else they have been able to manage down expectations very well. look, republicans are doing it, too, though. they are saying, woell, maybe w won't win or maybe we'll win by a narrow margin. i do think that we can see democrats hold on or lose by a few seats and say, well, we only lost by a few seats. that's victory. >> there are structural, financial, tactical reasons that they can hold the house and hold narrowly. i'm not sure how much it will
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help president obama to have a democratic victory by slender proportions. >> all the blame, not as much. last issue of the week, i mean, the talk about palace intrigue, this notion that somehow vice president biden and hillary clinton would trade jobs and she would be the vice president on the ticket. i know from my reporting this does not seem to be true in any way, shape or form and, yet, we love to talk about it. >> it doesn't make it any less a tantalizing story. of course, we had to report it. it's cat nip. any hillary clinton and obama story has always will be and always will be and when b bobwoodward said it is on the table, we all chased it down. all kinds of speculation, will she then run in 20 16. it's irresistible. >> it's a lost day for the white house and they can't have days to lose. that's the one day about this story. it took a whel day away from them and the democrats don't have a day to trade on message. >> thanks so much. coming up in the shallow end
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