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sanders dr. roth rothschild, pat buchanan and dr. susan love and john ralston, the guru on politics and we'll ask him about this new sharron angle ad. >> reid voted to use taxpayer dollars for viagra. >> so we got that to talk about, as well. just weeks to go until election day, republicans have already been jumping all over today's new job's report blaming president obama and democrats for the slow recovery in getting americans back to work. president obama will take on the job's issue with the new numbers later this hour. for the fourth straight month, the labor department says the economy lost jobs. there was some growth, 64,000 jobs created in the private sector. the overall unemployment rate stayed the same at a stubbornly high 9.6%. mike viqueira is live at the white house for us, mike, how does the president sell this
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report? how is he planning to counter republican claims? >> well, it's all a matter of expectations, as so often happens in politics, chris. you can look at this report two ways. it is a good news/bad news kind of thing. this is the last time that americans are going to be reminded by their own government and official capacity that the unemployment rate is still over 9%. 9.6% and the last time they'll hear that confirmed by the government before november 2nd and that is the election day, democrats have a month to talk about it. the bad news is this time is the last time they're going it be reminded and it is still 9.6%. two points higher, almost a full two points higher than when the president took office. obviously, the president has struck the theme over and over and over again over the course of the summer and accelerating now as we head head long into the political season. this is republican ditch that was dug, so to speak. the republicans drove the economic car into the ditch.
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let's not give them the keys back. the president talking about the alternative acknowledging that the hole was deep. acknowledging that the economy is still suffering. acknowledging that there are still 15 million people out of work and looking for work in this country. we can expect the president to pound on that, continue to do that. democrats feel as though they are getting some traction. the more the president gets ingauged, he's got another big rally in philadelphia on sunday, chris. so, we will see a lot of the president and we will see him continuing the themes that he has hit on over the past several months with regard to the economy. >> of course, over the last several months or so we saw a lot of changes in the president's economic advisory team. >> general james jones, the formfor former marine commander in europe announcing today in a second rose garden appearance today, he's going to be retiring, being replaced by his top deputy and general jones,
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this is not entirely unexpected, chris. known as a very low-key nsa national security adviser around washington circles and security and military circles. there was a lot of criticism. there was a lot of that perhaps he wasn't really enamored of the political to and fro and the rough and tumble. he's going to be stepping down, not completely unexpected. chris? >> i want to bring in vermont independent senator bernie sanders. good morning to you. >> good morning, chris. >> i'm sure you just heard what mike had to say. this is the president's message. the economy was a problem that was created by george bush, by the republicans and if somebody drives a car into the ditch, you don't give them the keys. is that the message you think that is going to help them, if not, obviously, keep the house in democratic hands, might save the senate and reduce the number of seats lost in the house? >> well, let me speak as an independent who caucuses with the democrats. there is no question that under
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bush we lost five million manufacturing jobs overall at the end of eight years. we lost 600,000 private sector jobs, which is the worst job performance record in modern history. having said that, are we doing all that we should do right now to deal with the horrendouses situation of the economy, the answer is no. i think it is important to remind people where we came from, but we have got to be more aggressive in telling the american people how we are going to create the millions of jobs that the middle class of this country desperately needs. >> of course, you have a very limited time frame in which to craft that message. and i'm reminded that i think it was back in 1982 when there was an off-term election with ronald reagan. there was, i think, over 10% unemployment. so, that number that we got today was worse back then, yet people considered it a victory because only 26 house seats were lost. they had one message. they kept it very clear and kept
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it very simple and they kept repeating it. is that the strategy you would take and, if so, what would be that message? >> the message is among other things that we have radically got to change our trade policies and stop the outsourcing of jobs. right now you have a situation where american companies have in all throwing workers out on the streets, moving to china and paying people there 50 cents an hour and bringing those jobs back in this country. it is hard to buy a product manufactured in the united states of america. we brought forth a couple weeks ago a very modest bill to stop outsourcing. we got zero republican votes. we lost a few democratic votes. i think you have to pound away at the issue of outsourcing and getting companies to reinvest in the united states of america. the chamber of commerce, chris, which is spending tens of millions of dollars supporting republican candidates made it very clear a few years ago. they were public. they think that for corporations outsourcing is a good thing. i don't think so. i don't think most americans do.
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>> you mentioned you caucus with the democrats and senate majority harry reid, as you well know, facing a very tough battle in nevada. if he were to lose to sharron angle and the democrats maintain their majority, who would you like to see take over the top spot? who can move this country in the direction that you think it needs to be? >> frankly, i don't think harry reid is going to lose. i think he's going to win and one reason i think he's going to win is he's standing up against giving more tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires and wants to use that money to r reinvest in our infrastructure and create good-paying jobs for the american people. >> if he doesn't win -- >> not going to go there. i'm not going to speculate. all i would say is that i think going back to the people, the bush agenda, the republican agenda. tax breaks for the rich, more
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outsourcing because more giving wall street and their friends the power to do whatever they want to do through deregulation. very difficult economic times. >> always good to see you, thanks for coming on. >> my pleasure. >> as we have been telling you, the president will address the job situation just about half an hour from now. he is talking at a maryland factory 11:40 eastern time. we will bring that to you live. if it was dirty politics before the race for governor in california is now really, really dirty. democrat jerry brown apologizing for a conversation caught on tape where one of his aides uses a sexist slur to describe meg whitman. listen. >> do we want to put an ad out? that i have been warned if i crack down on pensions, i will be, that they'll go down to whitman and that's where they'll go because they know whitman
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will give them will cut them. >> what about saying -- >> jerry brown's campaign manager released this statement "this was a jumbled and often inaudible recording of a private conversation. at times our language was salty and we apologize to ms. whitman and anyone that may have been offended." whitman's spokesperson is jumping on this, "this is an appalling and unforgivable smear against meg whitman at the very least for mr. brown. a hillary clinton supporter and pat buchanan is a gop strategist and msnbc contributor. so, as a democrat and as a woman, let me ask you, what do you think about this? >> i think it is absolutely appalling and that if we didn't learn from 2008 how awful it was to allow sexist slurs against hillary clinton as well as sarah
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palin, we should learn it now, we should say this is totally unacceptable and condemn jerry brown and make there be consequences. >> does it hurt him? >> i think it hurts him. i think the whole party has been hurt by what they allowed in terms of sexism in 2008. if you look at the polls, only 24% of democratic white women are enthusiastic about this election. only 21% of democratic independent, of independent whilt women are enthusiastic. 44% of republican women are enthusiastic. they're not enthusiastic because the republicans are a great alternative. they're enthusiastic because they're sick and tired of the democrats not listening to the will of the american people and allowing horrible things like this to be said and they were said over and over during the 2008 campaign. >> she makes a good argument, pat, she's got numbers to back it up. on the other hand, a lot of people who are saying, look, in
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the end, none of this is going to matter. it's going to matter what your bank account is, if you have a good job, if you think you're going to keep your job. what do you think? does this hurt jerry brown? >> sure, it hurts him and it's a real distraction. he had to apologize for it. it's all over the media and all over cable today and i think it will hurt him primarily with women. look, in these campaigns there is a lot of rough talk and slurs and things like that that you wouldn't want to have on the air. so i think jerry brown will pay a price for that, but i do think this, the situation in california and this is the eighth largest country in the world, if it were a country and it's in the same shape just about as greece and we're arguing about some slur these fellows used on the phone or off the phone and it is sort of trivial pursuit but it's going to hurt jerry brown, no doubt about it. >> hurt him more or less as the hou housekeeper allegations.
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>> i think the housekeeper allegations are more serious because they go to alleged mistreatment of a hispanic woman in a state where 34% of the state is hispanic and secondly where this issue of illegal immigration is a burning issue and, third, that's an issue of veracity. so, i think they're both going to hurt, but i would think, i would think the hispanic thing is probably worse in a sense. i thought initially when i heard it that it could tilt the election finally in the other direction. jerry brown may just have made a major turnover, which turns it back into an even race. >> where do you think this falls? >> pat, i think you really don't get it. if you think it's only women who care about slurs against women, you really don't understand this country. george bundy in the '70s said a really important thing. when we realized we had to stop using racist terms. he said there were things that were regularly said in my house that, growing up, if i heard them today, i would walk out of the room. if you think it is acceptable
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for someone who wants to be a leader to call an opponent a b-word or any of the things that were said in the last campaign, you just don't get it and i don't believe it's not only women who don't care, pat. you think it's a joke, it's not a joke. i'm happy to joke with you, pat, but it's not funny. >> i'm not saying it was a joke or funny, but it was not said in public. in private conversation you hear an awful lot of things you would not want to see repeated and you may even say things in anger that you wouldn't want on the air. this was overheard and he apologized and i think he will be hurt for it. it is a nasty slur against meg whitman who seems to be a fine lady. primarily women will be more concerned than men and i think that is true as an analysis and with due respect i would not defer to your analysis, i guess. >> pat buchanan, what a great conversation thanks to both of you.
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>> let's hope we both care. let's clean up the language. the mid-term election just 26 days away, that's why we're all so excited about what's going on. it may or may not be the issues or policies driving voters. we think we know what it is and we're going to talk about it, next. finally, some hope. those 33 chilean miners may get to see the sun since being trapped underground since early august. even if that means we have to shop all day, right, honey? yep, all day. good thing you're starting here. we compare your progressive direct rate to other top companies', so you can save money! look! we saved a lot! and quick, too. and no more holding her purse! it's a european should bag. it was a gift. mm-hmm. shopping less and saving more. now, that's progressive. call or click today. oh no, no! i just parked here aond ago! give me a brk, will you?
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we have breaking news to tell you about. now, bank of america has moratorium on foreclosures in all 50 states on top of that pnc halting foreclosures in 23 states. just recently, yesterday, the chairman of the house oversight committee became the latest
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lawmaker to call for a nationwide moratorium on foreclosures. big part of the problem is that u.s. banks are being called on to examine the foreclosure documentation problems. so, this is a huge problem across the country and now the bank of america halting foreclosure proceedings and sales, by the way, all across the united states. pnc in 23 states while they look at those foreclosure documentations. live pictures now from maryland, that's where president obama is planning to address today's job's report in 20 minutes from now. here's why it is important, 95,000 jobs lost and that's not the news democrats, of course, need ahead of the midterm elections. moments from now we'll hear how the president frames all of this politically. he's about to tour the earnest mier block factory there and then he'll have a conversation with some of the workers. as we've been telling you, voters are fed up with washington in general. there's a brand-new poll out.
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in the past hour, it shows 74% think major changes are needed in government. 8% say d.c. is broken. it's got to be more than that. is that 80%. oh, 8% say it's broken beyond repair. and this new poll confirms the enthusiasm gap we have been hearing about. 51% of republicans say they're highly motivated to vote next month, but 28% of democrats say they're highly motivated. i'm joined now by christopher broois owner and lead strategist with the shopper intelligence agency. good to see you, how are you? >> i'm very good, thank you for having me. >> what you found out is that disgust, that anger that we saw reflected in those polls, it isn't just about the issues themselves, right? >> no, we were actually really surprised to find out that when we gave the respondents the opportunity to tell us what the issues were, they did not immediately go to policy, they did not immediately go to a particular political party nor to the election. >> did they go to jobs?
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that would be the first thing people would think. >> no. >> that's what really shocked me. we keep hearing about the fact that it's all about the pocketbook, but that's not what they told you. >> systemic issues within the country, really nonpolicy driven but societial in nature. that's what they really seem to want to talk about. >> give us an example of the kind of things you kept hearing over and over again. >> consistently across the political spectrum, the number one thing we heard is from the media and politicians as well as american citizens themselves. >> they didn't believe that they could trust what they were hearing in many instances. >> no, people were taking their choices and their actions and that was leading to a break down of o civil society. >> they actually used those kind of phrases. a break down in civil society. there seems like there was almost an ethical element to some of the comments that they were making. >> somewhat. we want to be careful not to take it there because that begins to get a slippery slope
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and it tends not to be specific enough. again, what we heard is lack of accountability responsibility and things like lack of courtesy, lack of respect and all leading to a sense of a loss of community. >> when you hear about things like loss of courtesy, loss of respect and, obviously, we're framing this within the congressional elections and the mid-term elections but that's just society in general is how they're feeling about that. that we just aren't the nicest, not as nice as we used to be. >> it goes deeper than that. that tends to smooth it over and gloss it over and be easily dismissed. >> this is not someone annoying you by answering a cell phone call in the mild of dinner. >> it's coming down, again, all of this. this is what we are going to find out in the quant study. i suspect what we might find out is that all of this courtesy and respect stuff ladders back up to accountability and responsibility. we think that is the number one theme that we heard. people are too self-promotion driven and too self-centered
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driven and too commercial and we are not really thinking. in fact, we heard people talk about, look, if i got it, i don't care that nobody else doesn't. >> it was absolutely fascinating. are we going to have a sense, do you think, on how this translates on election day? >> not really. we -- >> not a direct quantifiable line. >> i suspect when we get to the end of the quant released after this election, which we did on purpose. we're going to be able to say here's why constantly switching parties every two years is not working and never will work. >> fascinating stuff. christopher, thanks so much for coming in. >> thank you so much for having me. trapped underground for two months now. new signs those 33 miners in chile finally, finally might get back up to the outside world this weekend.
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what this has been like for them. months of life 2,000 feet below the surface but it may soon be over for the chilean miners. the new shaft could reach them by tomorrow and that means the miners could be just a few safety tests away from beginning their trips to the surface. kerry sanders has been in chile following all of this for us, kerry. walk us through where we are right now. >> well, the pace is certainly picking up. they call this camp hope and this is main street, more or less. up there you can see the flags that are up there. there were 32 flags, which are chilean flags and one bolivian. representing for each of the miners trapped below. a shaft is being drilled. now, they're drilling the shaft over there, but i'm going to take you through, as you see, a huge assembled number of members of the media who have come here from around the world but have
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gathered here to witness what will be, everybody hopes, an amazing moment. one of those who has been waiting patiently now for two months is daniel's sister. how do you feel right now? "i'm feeling well, i'm waiting. i feel relaxed. i'm hoping that all the work works properly." that's been the situation. that's been the situation for everybody here. you can see families coming through waiting just over there there isilatal camp area where they have been sleeping. i'll walk you up this way to the front gate so we can take a picture. we're coming right through here and really quite a number of members of the media who have gathered here. there will be a news conference somewhere around 12:30 but the minister of health when he drove
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through here earlier today he stopped his car and he says that he believes the rescue will actually take place on tuesday. you can see that red crane that has gone in, that's just established this morning. they brought the pieces in yesterday. that is what they will use to lower the pod, the escape capsule that will go down the shaft to the men and one by one, pull them up. there's one question, though, at least the first 100 meters of the shaft. they dropped a camera down yesterday and they looked at the wall of the shaft to see whether the possibility exists that certain rocks may cave in and fall as that pod is going down and coming up. nothing would be worse than to have somebody in the pod coming up and have it cave in on them. so, they're talking about putting a steel half inch pipe down at least 100 meters.
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but if they do that, it delays things. family members and everybody is really quite anxious, including the 33 miners are down below to get out. so, it's going to be a little bit of guesstimate work by the engineers. some say that steel pipe is not needed and others say it's absloa absolutely needed. we'll learn more later this afternoon when the government announces the latest developments. chris? >> thank you so much, kerry. gave us a good sense of what's happening there and the feelings on the scene. kerry sanders in chile for us. are american military bases being guarded by afghanis with ties to taliban militants? a shocking new report. in nevada, democrats are getting really worried that sharron angle could topple harry reid. she's out with a tough new ad. we'll talk with a man who knows that states politics, inside and out. f over $450 a year, with monthly plan premiums less than $15
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many american military bases are apparently under the protection of afghan guards with ties to the taliban. to taliban militants. nbc chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski joins us. jim, how much do we know about this and how widespread is it? >> chris, u.s. military and pentagon officials have known that this has been a problem for some time now, but it's the first time that we've seen in this senate report so much damaging information compiled in one place and it really does sound bad, in some cases, for example, these private contractors are paying out protection munoney to local warlords. and it turns out that half that money goes right into the pockets of the taliban and, in another case, there were some security guards at a base, at a u.s. military base in western afghanistan that were actually double agents of sorts and were feeding information about u.s. military operations there inside
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that camp and around the camp to iranians just across the border. everyone agrees, it is a serious problem. the bigger problem here is that when you're dealing with a counterinsurgency like this, this is often going to be the case where many people who work for you are also working for the other side of the fence at the same time. it was a situation very similar in iraq, also seen here in afghanistan. but those locals are vital to protection of u.s. military forces in many respects and that they know the territory, they know people, the customs and they can immediately spot when something's out of place and that actually contributes to the protection of american forces. nevertheless, defense secretary robert gates has appointed a couple of task forces to look into how to at least minimize any potential damage from this situation. it is a problem but u.s. military officials don't think it's out of control. chris? >> okay, mik, thank you.
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with the laser focus on jobs, politicians are talking about infrastructure projects, but governor chris christie's mind is on money. he supported a new rail tunnel which took 22,000 cars one of the northeast's busiest commutes. then he scrapped the plan when it got too expensive. richard lui has the detail for us. richard, this caused a lot of outrage and he's facing what a lot of folks are facing across the country. they're worried where the money is going to come from. >> if you're unemployed, you say, boy, i hope this does not happen where i'm at. as we were researching for this story here, talk to one organization that specialized in infrastructure projects and we are talking about hundreds of thousands of projects like new jersey's across the country which means thousands of jobs. but governors, as you were talking about, they do not want to operate deficit. that's a tough balance for them. in christie's case, it has grown
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too expensive. look at some of the numbers here. originate estimate $5 billion and $20088.7 billion and in $20109 billion to $10 billion. that is three times that original estimate and you know what he's trying to do, he needs to protect the state's long-term fiscal health. that's what he's saying and saying no to the project at the moment. project supporters point to what is at risk here. are saying 6,000 construction jobs associated with this one project and 40,000 jobs after the tunnel is done and $300 million that the state will have to repay if they can't cancel this project. that will go to the federal government. now, christie has company in minnesota. governor tim paulente operating in deficit. he trimmed a 1 trillion public works bill cutting out of that and affected jobs related to
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transit, universities and also in florida, another examplethral. charlie crist $60 million in pet projects that angered some former fellow gop allies at that time. now, on the flipside, pundits like msnbc contributor is saying, now is a time to invest ininfrafrequentture because costs are low. depite what's happening in new jersey here, chris. he and others say build now why we need the jobs and before things get more expensive. >> all right, richard, thanks so much. interesting stuff from new jersey. sharron angle and harry reid, they have been going at it from everything from spending to social security. the latest attack ad shows how tough this race really is. >> here's the kicker, reid actually voted to use taxpayer dollars to pay for viagra and convicted child molesters and sex offenders. what else could you ever need to
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know about harry reid? >> luke russert covers capitol hill for nbc news and also covering the conversation john rolston. you know nevada politics like the back of your hand. give us some context of this. what exactly is sharron angle saying and is it true? >> well, she's talking about a provision that has gotten some play all over the place, chris, that was in the health care bill. and she's putting it in an ad in which she makes a rath of charges against harry reid, including bringing up illegal immigrati immigration, which she has used, i think, fairly effectively in the last few weeks, even though some of the claims have been debunked. this is a very, very nasty race going back and forth. reid has had a series of ads talking about what sharron angle has said. >> we thought for a while that this was going to be a wider race and now, luke, a recent poll shows angual a two-point
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lead over harry reid. how nervous are his people? >> a lot of nervousness coming out of democrats especially because of the symbolism this would mean if harry reid goes down as he is the democratic majority leader in the u.s. senate what i find interesting is amongst registered voters harry reid actually leads 43% to 42%. among likely voters, sharron angle is leading by two. there is a ground swell of enthusiasm coming from the tea party on the ground in nevada. jon, is that true and have you seen that on the ground there in nevada? >> there's no question that the enthusiasm gap is playing out here, but there's something else going on here, too, luke. that is that harry reid has the highest negatives of any politician at his level that we've seen here in a long, long time. he hasn't been able to move. saying that democrats are worried about this, they have been worried since january. i just think that the threading index has gone up a little bit with the release of these polls. i have to tell you, these polls
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that have been released this week, all that show angle with a slight lead, they all have internal problems with the sampling and as you mention it's all about who's going to turn out. the enthusiasm gap that favors the republicans versus the democratic turn out machine that the reid organization erected here way back in 2007. who wins that is going to win this race. >> jon, i'll steal that phrase. the fretting index, i like that. it's not just angle who has been talking about this issue of sex offend offenders. let me play an ad for you by harry reid. >> she said background checks was an invasion of privacy. protect sex offenders instead of the safety of our kids. >> i'm harry reid and i approve this message. >> a couple questions. jon, why all this attention on sex offenders, especially in a state where you have such a high foreclosure rate and such a high unemployment rate. where is this all coming from?
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what is the strategy? >> for a minute there i thought you were going to talk about the high rate of sex here in vegas, which would make sense. but the real issue here is that what harry reid is doing there is just another in a series of bolts that he has pulled oout from angle's legislative record on which she was on the very extreme end of a lot of 40-2 and 4 1-1 votes and they used to call it it in the legislature, 40-angle. it's just a coincidence if you have these two ads going up at the same time that talk about sex offenders, but they are trying to find everyi little edge. they are trying to move as many different interest groups to their side as they can. there is very few undecided voters left here now, chris. >> chris, if i could just jump in very quickly. what's so interesting about these ads.
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a brilliant strategy by republicans during the run up of the health care bill. that's where this amendment comes from. during the weeks in late march the democrats and the senate had to be reunited and if they weren't united on these bills the bill would have to go back to the house. that's why these bills were so smart, they put democrats being on the vote. it's really in gop politics back in march, it really is. >> luke russert, thanks, jon, always good to see you. we want to go to that box factory that we were telling you about in maryland on the day when we saw increase in the unemployment rate and the president speaking before some workers on a tour, part of his push to say what he's going to do about this economy. let's listen in. >> this difficult downturn. he hasn't had to lay anybody off and still confident about his growth. so, we're just very proud of him and what this company has accomplished. these are the guys that build
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serious stuff. concrete blocks, bricks for walls that are thick, difficult to move and can stop anything in their path. sort of like the way i feel about congress sometimes. but this is believing in their workers and they care about the environment so they collect and process using cooking oil from local restaurants to power some of their equipment. their community cares about them, so, business is growing. brendan has hired folks this year and with the smart investments he's made, he hopes to continue that growth. small businesses like this one are the bricks and blocks of our entire economy. and over the past two years, my administration has been doing everything we can to help encourage more success stories like this. because it is small businesses that will power our growth and put our people back to work.
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this morning we learned that in the month of september our economy gained 64,000 jobs in the private sector. july and august private sector job numbers were revised upwards. so, we have now seen nine straight months of private sector job growth. in all, more than 850,000 private sector jobs gained this year, which is in sharp contrast to the almost 800,000 jobs that we were losing when i first took office. but, that news is tempered by a net job loss in september, which was fueled in large measure by the end of temporary census jobs and by layoffs in state and local governments. i should point out that these continuing layoffs by state and local governments, teachers and police officer os and firefighters and the like would have been even worse without the federal help that we provided the states over the last 20
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months. help that the republicans in congress have consistently opposed. i think the republican position doesn't make much sense, especially since the weakness in public sector employment is a drag on the private sector, as well. so, we need to continue to explore ways that we can help states and local governments maintain workers who provide vital services. at the same time, we have to keep doing everything we can to accelerate this recovery. yes, the trend line in private sector job growth is moving in the right direction. but i'm not interested in trends or figures as much as i am interested in the people behind them. the millions of hard-working americans swept up in the most devastating times of our lifetimes. the only piece of economic news that folks still looking for work want to hear is you're hired and everything we do is
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dedicated it make that happen. last week, for example, i signed into law the small business jobs act. the small business bill that does big things. i want to mention three of them today. first, within the 11 days since it took effect, more than 2,000 small business owners have already received more than $1 billion worth of new loans. with more to come. and beginning today, the small business administration is offering larger loans for folks who need them. second, it expands the tax cut for all the equipment investment small businesses make this year. something that brendan is planning to take advantage of here at mayor block. we were just talking about his belief that the more we can accelerate depreciation, the more likely we're going to see businesses like his make these investments. it will help small business owners upgrade their plants and equipment and it will encourage large corporations to get off the sidelines and start putting their profits back into the
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economy and it will accelerate $55 billion in tax cuts for businesses that make job creating investments over the next year. third, it creates a new initiative to strengthen state programs that spur private sector lending to small businesses. a step that will support $15 billion in new small business loans across the country. maryland, for example, will be able to support $250 million in new lending for businesses that are expanding and creating jobs in communities like this one. thousands of small business owners across america had been waiting for months for this bill to pass. for the loans and tax cuts they badly needed to grow their businesses and hire new employees. unfortunately, it was held up all summer by a partisan minority until a few courageouses republican senators put politics aside. just imagine the difference bit could have made for small
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businesses in our economy if it happened months before. putting the american people back to work, expanding opportunity, rebuilding the economic security of the middle class is the moral and national challenge of our time. it is too important to fall prey to partisanship or blind ideology. this bill's rapid results prove that when we work together, we can get a lot done and that's what the great debate we are having today is all about. i believe that instead of extending tax loopholes in overseas jobs, we should permanently extend the tax credit that goes for all the companies and research and innovation that they do right here in america. i believe instead of borrowing $700 billion we don't have to give tax cuts to the wealthiest 2% of americans who don't need them, we should permanently extend the tax cuts for middle class families. they're the folks who saw their wages and incomes flat line over the past decade and they're the ones who deserve a break.
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and i believe that instead of sitting still, we should invest in rebuilding america's roads and railways and runways. too many american workers have b been out of work for months, even years. that doesn't do anybody any good when there's so much of america to rebuild. our infrastructure is falling far behind what the rest of the world is doing and upgrading it is vital to our economy and our future competitiveness. this is a project worthy of america's efforts. it's something that engineers, economists, governors and mayors of every political stripe support and many of them issued a sobering report about this challenge last week. and on monday, i will be meeting with some of them at the white house to discuss how we can put americans to work doing what they do best. building america. as i said many times before, it took us a long time to get out of where we are right now and
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the damage left by this recession is so deep that it's going to take a long time to get out. it will take determination, persistence and, most importantly, the will to act. all elements that the american people have in abundance. if we summon that spirit now, if we keep moving forward, i am absolutely convinced that we will rebuild our economy, we will put our people back to work and we will come through these tough days to brighter and better days ahead. i want to thank brendan, not only for his hospitality here today, but somebody who's got the courage and the foresight and the skills to create a terrific business that is supporting so many families. thank you very much. >> the president of the united states who acnauknowledging thew job numbers which were far worse than economists might predicted. they thought the u.s. would lose a few thousand jobs and the net
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loss was 95,000. he did point to a gain of 64,000 and he is at a box factory that he says is doing well and he touted this new small business job's act which he says will help a lot more businesses. they have already given away billions of dollars to thousands of small businesses in low-interest eloans. there's a new series of tax cuts in play and the president actually adopted a pretty somber tone in light of these job's numbers talking to the folks there that work at that factory. that, fortunately, is doing well. we also have breaking news that we're following for you out of orange county, florida. we're getting small bits of information in but there was a suspicious device that was found on the roof of an elementary school there. orange county, florida. they had to evacuate that school. the sheriff deputies were working to find out if that device was dangerous and all
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they're calling it is suspicious. this is a precaution and that's the reason they got the kids out of there and we're going to continue to follow that for you and let you know when we get more information about what's going on in florida. you've seen the pink ribbons, but it's not just pink ribbons any more to show support for breast cancer. seems like hundreds of products come in regular and pink. there's no doubt the campaign has raised millions of dollars and brought awareness to a new level, but there are people wondering if the campaign is really making progress. national breast cancer coalition president blogged, "i don't feel very pink about any of this. i feel angry. i am frustrated at the lack of progress and i feel used." dr. susan love is breast cancer expert and president and medical director of the dr. susan love research foundation, thanks very much for joining us, it's good to see you. >> thank you. >> do you understand the frustration that fran is feeling? >> absolutely. you know, breast cancer awareness month has been going
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on for 25 years and i think we're aware. everything is pink and i think you'd be hard pressed to find a woman who is not aware of breast cancer as a significant problem. but what we need to do now is go beyond awareness and really get some urgency back to find the cause of breast cancer. >> you know, there is no cure, as we've said, obviously. but when you look at other cancers, it is something that people do talk more about. the awareness is, obviously a good thing. but where are we in terms of research? where are we in terms of making this something that women can an live with breast cancer. but all of the treatment surgery, radiation, chemotherapy have collateral damage. they all have side effects that are going to be there permanently. you know, we have a we have a vaccine for cancer of the cervix and can find the cause of breast cancer and stop it if we really put our minds to
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t. a reminder for everybody. dr. susan love. thank you for coming in. >> thank you. so it's no longer apparent, a choice between a degree and marriage. there's new research out that shows more and more women have both. the new study suggests by age 40, white women with college degrees are just as likely to marry as those who do not have higher education. this is a remarkable turnaround of the so-called marriage penalty. generations of women put off ed kae education or wedding day. talking with a clinical professor of psychiatry at nyu and jeff gardere. i have to tell you, in the meeting talking about this story i made a joke, but then people weren't laughing. i said, you know, with the economy the way it is and women earning as much as they are, i think there are more guys out there who find a woman who has a good job attractive. >> absolutely. >> am i off base? >> not at all. i completely agree and wanted to bring that up.
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interesting it used to be a choice. do i want a ph.d. or a husband? actually many women used to go to college to find a husband. we are finding that that's not so much the case anymore. people are going to college as an end into itself. the median age of marriage is 28. the new generation is realizing their mom was able to do both and do both successfully. not easily but successfully in respect is economic incentive, us a said, for men to want to marry, more and more we find there's a dual income family needed to support the household. even more of a reason for men to want to do this. in fact, one-third of working women actually make more than their husbands. >> what do you think is going on here? >> i think it's guys are finally waking up to the realization that a woman with a college degree or a postcollege degree, perhaps may be more valuable economically than someone with just a high school degree, and men are not as threatened by women with college and postcollege degrees. >> do you really think that's true? maybe not by college and
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postcollege degrees. do you think men are threatened by women who whether in terms of paycheck perceive to be more successful? is that still a hurdle? >> that is still a hurdle. we've seen studies have shown men have real issues with that, and sometimes tend to drag women down who make more money than they do. but, again, i think the realization here that marriage is not just about romance. marriage is also about finance, and you also have to look at a partnership. these are very tough economic times. so do you have to get involved in a relationship that can benefit you not just emotionally but financially. you need both, or as we like to say in brooklyn. no money, no honey. >> do you think a lot of these women getting married now, they also, you talked about role models, saw, got examples of what it's like to be able to juggle and so if their moms pull it it off, they felt they can, too. get my ph.d. medical degree and do it as well? >> absolutely. in fact, my medical school class
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was 52% women. not at all the case 25 or 30 years ago. >> a huge turnaround. >> interesting what were you talking about. we are finding that a lot of people when the woman is making more money in the relationship, the men are having difficulty dealing with that. a lot of depression and substance abuse that may go along with that. to turn that around there has to be clear dialogue this is let's say, a partnership. i may bring in the money but you do other important things. not to diminish the man's role. >> men find themselves as to just what they make in money. it's more than that. >> wish we had more time to talk about this. thank you both for coming. that's going to do it for me this hour. i'm chris jansing, see you back here monday for another week of "jansing & company" live, 10:00 eastern time. contessa brewer will pick things up next. into the esophagus. prilosec otc uses a unique delayed-release system that protects the medicine as it passes through the stomach's tough acid. then it gets absorbed into the body,
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