deportations at an all time high. why? pass or fail? good-bye to the slacker's "d." and women making their own rules to get o the top. hello, everybody. i'm norah o'donnell. we'll have the stories coming up. first big news today. we begin with the latest unemployment numbers out. nationwide the jobless rate is a depressing 9.6% with 15 million americans out of work. those numbers are like dark clouds over the midterm elections. especially for incumbents facing frustrated and angry voters. we have it all covered. john harwood is in ohio today. nate silver is in new york. good to see you all. john harwood, we're going to start with you. wrn you're in columbus, ohio, today. first about the unemployment numbers 9.6%. there's not going to be another report like this before the elections. how much does this hurt and hamper the democrats' efforts? >> reporter: i don't think it helps democrats. i don't think it hurts them all

that much because the unemployment number stayed the same. here the jobless rate is lower than nationally. statewide the unemployment rate is over 10%. this is a tough environment for democrats. mary joe kilroy in the 15th district who voted for the stimulus package, voted for health care reform faces charges from steve stivers, her oe poent. opponent. she's left with attacking stivers for having worked as a bank lobbyist. not easy to hold your seat for a freshman democrat elected on a narrow margin two years ago. >> that's a great example. of course, john boehner, the republican leader who would like to be speaker of the house back home in ohio today sort of delivering a message.

i want to play a clip where he channels the rage out there among voters. let's listen. >> your government is out of control. do you have to accept it? do you have to take it? hell no you don't! >> john, what did you make of congressman boehner's comments today? >> well, he's going back as he did in the health care debate to saying we're not just the party of no, we're the party of hell no. you see john boehner trying to play on the anger, and what you see are individual democratic candidates trying to deflect the anger away from washington and democratic incumbents to wall street. mary joe kilroy goes after boehner and stivers saying they'll take us back.

not easy argument make to make, but that's what they're trying to do. >> and how is that message resonating? john boehner talking about the government is out of control, runaway spending, the tax cuts. then he says this election is going to be about jobs. is that resonating for the republicans out there are they campaigning? are they repeating the pledge as they unveiled it here in washington? >> well, most republican candidates aren't that tied up with the pledge, because there's not much in the pledge. it's mostly platitudes and noncontroversial proposals because they didn't get into specifics on budget cutting. steve stivers himself didn't get into the specifics. he was staying a million miles away from that. but yes, those arguments in broad strokes are working nor the republicans because conditions are on their side.

and people want to change. when you're the party in power and voters want change, that means you're out. >> what do you think about ohio in terms of the midterms and the gubernatorial race there? >> well, you do have president obama coming back here this was a good announcement for mary joe kilroy. all of the democrats in the country, the democrats want a nontraditional district. we know that's not going to be there. the question is can they generate some approximate level of enthusiasm to get close to what republicans already have? so the president is coming here to columbus on the 17th of october. going to try to fire up the voters in and around the ohio state campus. they know they can't get all the way back to the 2008 turnout.

>> it's not just the president. he'll be joined with the first lady. it shows how important they place ohio, the two of them going together. john harwood, thanks so much. >> you bet, norah. now a look at the polls just a few weeks before voters had to the ballots. nate focuses on all the number crunching. some have called him a spread sheet psychic, who predicted that barack obama should win the white house. did you bring your crystal ball or just your calculations? >> this one is a tough one to forecast. >> you do literally crunch all the numbers. but you point out that things are trending towards the republicans. still you say it's only a 24% likelihood that they could do that. what's trending their way for the republicans? >> anything that doesn't touch an ocean is more republican.

west virginia is a state where joe mentioned scheduled special selection. he thought it was a safe bet for him. but people don't want to send him to d.c. and support the obama agenda. obama lost west virginia badly that's a state where they made a lot of gains. there's some evidence in nevada that harry reid has fallen a little bit behind. it's another state where illinois you have more polls than not with a republican with a small lead. it's coming down to four or five states in the middle of the country. washington state is important. if that were to reverse itself, they would have problems there as well. >> it's a good way to look at it. those who don't touch an ocean. in california and washington state, the democrats are doing okay there right now.

and then on the northeast, connecticut, dick blumenthal there, and then in delaware the democratic candidate there. talk for me about connecticut. that was one that republicans have always been bullish about that maybe linda mcmahon, who of course led the worldwide wrestling federation could pull it off. she's spending a lot of money. but is that backfiring? >> i think there's a limit to how much you can saturate any one state. we see a lot of her ads in new york. but i think she climbed as close as she could in the polls and got stuck at 45% of the vote. which is not enough to win. there's been some reverse in the polling there. blumenthal looks safe to me. the margin is up to ten points now. unless something new happened, i think he's safe, and that race is a little bit over hyped i think.

>> and then, nate, we put together a full screen. you do, in terms of crunching all the numbers. if you had to based on your numbers where the senate would look now and the house, how many senate seats are you predicting they pick up? explain this graphic for people. you would say essentially the democrats would have about 51.5 seats. >> that's the average. there's a lot of uncertainty in the forecast. you know. you have still eight or ten senate races that could go either way. in the house you have literally 80 or 100 seats that we're not really sure who is going to win. so the average forecast may be, say a 45. but they would win 60 or 70. or democrats could surprise. the polling contradicts itself. we should be humble about what we know and say a huge gain is possible. a fairly large gain for republicans is likely. there could be surprises either way. >> nate, good to see you. thanks so much. appreciate it. >> yeah, thank you. and a lot of talk within the democratic party these days

seems to be stemming rather than stopping the losses on november 2nd, and that's the new reality for democrats and republicans in the anti-incumbent year. major gairrett joins us now. you've been doing great reporting. we talked to nate about the senate race. let's talk about the house now. it's not that the democrats were surprised. they were warning members this is going to be off the election for us. get real to it early on. has that helped them stem massive losses? >> chris van hollen told me if we hasn't started in february preparing members for what was going to be a tough political climate, we would be wiped out. we would not have a chance to stop the republicans at all. democrats are going to lose a lot of the seats in the house. but if they hold the house,

which many house democrats are more confident they will do than they were three weeks ago. the reason they'll hold is because of all the preparation. if all those things are successful, that will be why democrats take the house? >> sort of wishful thinking, though? >> probably so. national journal we have rated 78 toss-up house races. 72 are held by democrats. six are held by republicans. we rank four house republicans as toss-up or potentially in danger. all of the problems right now beset the democrats. typically waves are larger, not smaller than you expect. democrats have put themselves in position to have a chance of making 51-49 races, 49-51 races in their favor. >> this sunday we're going to see president obama and joe biden in philly together. we're going to have president obama and michelle obama

together. she's about to embark on her campaign swing. anything different in how you see thech dispatching them than different white houses that we've covered for? >> no, where they're going is where they can provide the most help. >> and boost the democratic base. >> boost the democratic base. principally in urban areas. there are several contestant house races there. in ohio you have a governor house race. and the senate race expanding for the republicans. you see the same factor in west virginia. joe mansion is a popular governor. the republican argument is keep the popular governor here. don't send him to washington for president obama. there's a separation. democrats at the state level are doing okay. the idea of sending them to washington is more problematic. with nate silver, there's one or two exception to the ocean thing. florida is an exemption.

louisiana, i guess that's the gulf of mexico, but that's clearly a republican state. >> he's already left. he can want defend himself. anyway. he ran barack obama's campaign. he briefed reporters yesterday in their definition of success. anything short of a republican is essentially a victory for democrats. >> the democrats find themselves in almost unspinable zone. david is a very good spinner. so he can find a way to spin himself out of that. but only defining what republican success is and failing and refusing to define what democratic success is shows you the problem they're facing. >> and it was interesting he specifically targeted karl rove as a player in this election. the president is out there on the stump mentioning how much outside groups have weighed in. that is an area where republicans are well ahead of

democrats. >> outside groups have weigd in before. the difference is the december closure is so much less. because they've been so aggressive in condemning this campaign money, democrats aren't doing it. the unions aren't doing it. some dicks wonder if that's something they may come to regret. >> good to see you, major. >> thank you. and we're also following new developments in the case of the american couple that was allegedly attacked by pirates among the mexico/texas border. janet shamlian sh in texas with new details on the drug cartel connection. >> reporter: good afternoon, norah. there are a number of developments in the first for david hartley's body. they deny they are dragging their feet on this investigation, which has been the claim of texas governor rick perry and a number of others.

they are having trouble with the search. it has been called off and resumed a couple of times now because of threats from the drug cartel. perhaps putting their lives in danger. the searchers looking for the body. but the search is back on today. meanwhile, the sheriff in this county, zapata county, the man handling the investigation has taken a unique approach to what's going on. we can't prosecute you. this is texas. there are no repercussions. all we want is a body. he's hopeful that may term something up. in terms of tiffany hartley, she said last night she would be willing to take a lie detector test if investigators want her to. some people have questioned her story. the zapata county sheriff's department has not saying the evidence backs up her story and there is a credible witness. but she did say she would be willing to do that if the authorities wanted it. that is the latest from here at

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last night if you didn't see it on nbc's the last word with lawrence o'donnell, dobbs faced off with a reporter whose investigative piece claims dobbs knowingly had undocumented workers employed at his estate. listen to this. >> i would say that is wrong. it fails logically and freight forwardly.

the only person who would have been illegal in any context would have been a landscaper working for the contractor working on my house in florida. that may have happened. that isn't my employee, nor is it the reason i would have contracted with that landscaper. to suggest i hire the person who is illegal, if she can document someone is illegal is an absurdity. i absolutely did not. maybe there's some fine point you would like to straighten out for me. i'm telling you point-blank. i've never done so. >> on the issue of immigration, the white house released startling new numbers that caught our eye. a record number of illegal immigrants were deportd this year. it's an effort by the obama administration to reinforce federal immigration laws. in all, more than 390,000 people were deported. that's about 10% above the 2008 total.

david, good to see you. let me start with this lou dobbs controversy. do you think there's some hypocrisy involved? >> what this tells me, and what this should tell all of us is our immigration system is broken. it's absolutely dysfunctional. even somebody like mr. lou dobbs who is basically made a career out of hateful statements against immigrants can't comply with the law himself. i listened to him in the piece you just wran. boy, that's a technical defense. he would be the first to be screaming at anybody else who made such after defense. but it underscores, norah, that we need a full fix to this immigration system. we need congress to roll up its sleeves and get to work and fix this dysfunctional system. >> lou dobbs is saying he hire ad landscaper who is legal, and he couldn't be responsible for whoever he hired. it's happening in california in that senate race out there. meg whitman.

why do you -- why do you think then at this time the obama administration is letting it be known the number of deportations has increased by 10%. >> i think you hit it on the head, norah. this is an election year. everybody is in favor of rigorous enforcement of the law. we want the border safe. we want our children safe. i don't care how many people are deporteds without a full fix. we need a fix for the economy. it's going to bring in all studies from all sides of the aisle. the kato institute. the immigration policy center. the economic policy institute all say that, you know, a fix to the immigration system is going to bring $1.7 trillion in gross domestic product over the next ten years. it's going to create nearly a

million jobs. >> by taking more of these people out of the shadows you're saying if you were to allow them to gain -- put them on a path to citizenship or as some critics call it amnesty, whatever, then you would be able to collect more taxes for the people, and that would add more money to the revenue stream schlt that what you're say sing? >> well, yes. that's part of it. but we need a full fix. we need researchers. we need cancer reresearchers. we need entrepreneurs. there's no reason we're sending entrepreneurs home. why we're sending researchers home and academics and people to bring us out of this economic doll drum. today's job report tells us we need more jobs. if we fix the immigration system, all indications are we're going to have a million jobs created. let's do this. let's get out of the economic doldrums. >> david leopald, thank you, we

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take a look at how stocks are trading now. the dow now up 60 points to 11,007. s&p up nearly 7 points and the nasdaq up 18. the last jobs report before the election was out today shows that the economy is stuck in neutral. while overall employment remains at 9.6%, the labor department

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news. it is an american team working with the chilean team. we have the president and the vice president from the chilean team. i'm curious now what is the dangers you have to deal with in the final 37 meters. >> there are many dangers that we do not suspect to have any problem because the rock is very solid in the bottom of the hole. >> reporter: so one of the things that i think is perhaps surprising to me is as the final breakthrough happens and you have a 37, 38 inch wide hole there, and you can final get the capsule down, the miners themselves have to set dynamite and create some explosions. what are they creating there, and why do they have to blow some dynamite up? >> no, we do not expect to use

any dynamite. the problem is the hammer is broke in the gallery, right in the box of the gallery. as soon as the hammer gets the gallery, it can get stuck. where you could not retrieve the hammer from the hole. we have a video camera in the gallery. and one in the platform where the driller is. they'll be looking how close will be the hammer to the gallery. they will be in permanent company. >> they are avoiding to fraction the rocks that fall over their head. you have to clingean a little b before starting the rescue.

>> reporter: that's one of the concerns. we're going to walk over here. i'm going to point out for you where plan "b" is. right now it looks so complicated up there. see that really tall, looks like an oil drilling rig? it's a little left there. it's quite tiny at an angle. you can see the red crane. the red crane is in position because the escape capsule, the pod that each individual miner will get in one by one. that su how they're going to hoist it up. so a lot of excitement and anticipation. i'm not sure we can give a solid day, but do you think it will be this weekend? some time next week? >> we are just finishing our work tomorrow. and the rest does not depend on us. so i cannot give you a date. >> reporter: super. the minister of health said the one thing he thought needed to take place -- in fact, there he

goes now, is he needs to make sure nasa, when they came here is that you follow the protocol that you set and you don't improvise. you set it up and go through it as you're supposed to. so he said he thought it might be tuesday, and if that's the protocol that they're going to follow, then tuesday we'll begin to see the miners come up. but it's very important to b pint out that this is, like the way they're doing has never been done. as confident and excited as the families are, it's still very dangerous. and there could be problems. >> no doubt, kerry. i got the chills reading about those 33 trapped miners and them deciding in what order they'll take the miners out because they're going to be stuck in a very narrow shaft, as you talked about. >> reporter: it's interesting because they have bonded in a way that i guess you might expect, but they are so tight it

was difficult for them to decide who would go first and last. so the folks on the surface said they want the first people to go up to be the most e peernsed in tight situations who are going to be the calmest without any medical concerns at all. if there's a problem coming up, that person will be able to handle the crisis situation best. then when they get to this the surface, they all want to remain and wait for all 33 people to get up to go to the hospital. the folks say, i'm sorry, you can't do that. but we need you to in small groups get in a helicopter, fly to the hospital. be checked out by the doctors. >> amazing story. kerry sanders, you've been doing great reporting. thank you so much. >> thank you. and a "d" grade will no longer cut it for students in one new jersey school district. officials say it's time to hold students accountable. get an "a", "b", "c", or do it

over. this is just about an hour and a half from new york and 25,000 people live in that area. now mt. olive students rank high in terms of test scores. when nearly one in four got a "d", the superintendent said it's time for change. joining me now is the superintendent of the district, joining us from tennessee. all right. tell us about this change. get rid of the "d." you can't get a "d." why did you do that? >> we want to make sure the kids are getting the best education that they could possibly get in our school district. it just a koured that a "d" grade is not acceptable anywhere else in the world. you wouldn't want a "d" taxi driver. you want someone to be competent in the field they're working in. what could be more important

than competence in school work. we decided 70% would be the standard. >> did you meet any resistance from parents on this? >> no, generally speaking parents get it. i don't think they want to know -- they don't support their children getting "d's." i think parents are left out in the dark. parents don't go home and say, gee, dad, i got a "d" in history. aren't you proud? we want to provide parents with a notification system in such a way that if students made a grade lower than 70, they would get an e-mail every time that happened. >> i like the plan you have in place. explain that more. you get parents involved before you end up with a report card at home that says what the heck is this. you had a "d", and now you have to retake the class.

what's that plan to give alerts to parents? >> our feeling is if parents knew their kids were getting d's in the classroom, they would want to get involved. we e-mail them any time they make a grade lower than 70. that alerts them to the fact that the child made a failing grade. then we give them a three-day clock which the student can fix or remedy the problem. they get an e-mail saying your son our daughter receive ad failing grade. you have three days to fix it. generally they call the school, talk to the teacher. what's missing? they can retake tests, the idea being to try to get them over. our mission is not to see how many kids, woen won't be succes. . we want them all to succeed. we're just tired of saying that anything lower than 70 is considered acceptable. >> it sounds like a great idea

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kicked it off. women are starting to make great strides. women now surpassing men in terms of the number of doctorate degrees they get, and in college. how can we do more, or is this just a matter of time? >> part of it is a matter of time, norah. but women are 60% of college graduates, 50% of the workplace, and only 18% of the top leadership positions. so i talk about how women can get to parody all the way across the board. at the rate we are talking through the doors at the top leadership doors, it will take up 70 years to reach parody. i've been an activist for women for almost 40 years. i can't live another 70 years. so i wanted to speed the process along. >> what are some ways that women can change to think about power and leadership. >> i suggest applying movement building principles to making

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our workplaces much more family friendly, and enable people to have more flex time, be able to step off the ladder, be able to step back onto it. there are lots of ways to make the workplace -- enable women to stay engaged and stay ininvolved. we need that power to do great things in the world. and women have the capability. as more men want to also be part of the child rearing aspects of life that young men and young women are ready to work togethe together. >> i think we're at a turning point. i don't think it's going to take 70 years. gloria, thank you so much, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and a fictional tv docu-drama is depicting prince harry as a

military target that's now sparking national outrage. michelle kosinski is in london following this story. hi, michelle. >> over the the years, over the decades there has been no shortage of tv movies and documentaries about the royal family, but this one is a lot different, it's a docu-drama, but it dramatizes events that not only never happened, but nobody would want to see happen. namely, prince harry getting kidnapped by the taliban. what would it look like if prince harry were taking captive by insurgents? for now, though, it's the program itself that some are finding pretty awful. >> of course it's in poor taste. a lot of people are being killed in the hostage situations. >> the docu-drama, emphasis on the drama, will show 26-year-old

army pilot harry captured, forced to appear in a mock execution, in which an unloaded gun is pointed at his face and a captive pulls the trigger. a retired army commander spoke out this morning on a popular british morning news show. >> i've seen people come out from hostage situations. i've brought a hostage out. i'll tell you what they feel like. absolutely terrified. completely terrified. i don't like it being put in a drama documentary that appeals to get the rating up. >> they'll also mention the makename bullet magnet during the month of 2008 when he did serve on the front lines in afghanistan, when his posting became public, he was rushed home. harry always wanted to return. >> i would love to come back home. i want to go back very, very soon. >> now some royal watchers say what's the big deal about a work of fiction on an interesting topic? >> to be brutally honest, at the time when harry was in

afghanistan the taliban and al qaeda were vocal in saying that he was the number one target, that he was somebody they would love to capture and torture and make an example of as the queen's grandson. i don't think it would be giving anybody ideas. this is a piece of drama. it should be taken as such. >> the spokesperson for the princes very politely described the docu-drama as not helpful. security is a huge issue for the royal family. not only while prince harry was serving in afghanistan, but also now with terror alerts throughout europe. the security has had to be increased here at home, too. norah? >> an amazing story. michelle, thank you. and also some school kids in london got a special visit from captain jack sparrow. this cell phone video shows johnny depp's impromptu performance at meridian school. he stopped by in answer to a letter from a 9-year-old girl in the class, and get this, she

asked him to help her lead a mutiny against her to help lea mutiny in the class room. >> if we didn't do it, we would never know. >> what was the reaction of the school where captain jack sparrow walks in. >> we thought that, who are they? when johnny depp came in, the whole school erupted with applause. >> no mutiny but depp sang some pirate songs and danszed for the kids. this comes out just as he in london just as he's in london. a bunch of good movies. now to this story, sorry about this. bedbugs. yeah, go viral. new report. we'll explain just ahead. that's if news now.

dramatic pictures coming to us from hollywood, florida.

look at this. what happened here, this dramatic rescue after two workers were injured while trying to do some substantial maintenance inside a water tower. this type of maintenance is done every 10 to 15 years. they took all of the water out of that water tower. these two workers were in there on scaffolding. they were doing some sand blasting and the scaffolding gave way. you're looking at live pictures of these rescue workers bringing down one of the injured maintenance workers was working inside that water tower. this is 150, to 160 feet off the ground. so, very dangerous. very delicate operation. we're told from officials on the ground and the public affairs director for the city of hollywood, florida, that one of the workers has a serious leg injury. the other one was semiconscious.

imagine they're inside this giant bowl of a water tower and the scaffolding gives away. and we're told that, they fell to the bottom of this 45-foot water tank. that's how big it is. and actually, one of them managed to grab his cell phone and was able to call his supervisor. this has been a very challenging rescue. to make sure that they get these individuals to safety. one semiconscious. the other one with a terrible leg injury. that easy a these are pictures from hollywood, florida, just moments ago. a touchy situation. some injuries when scaffolding gave way. thanks so much for watching msnbc. have a great weekend. the dylan ratigan show is up next. ics in phillips' colon health defended against the bad gas, diarrhea and constipation.

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