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thank you, jonathan. that's going to do it for us. thank you so much for spending the afternoon, at least an hour, with us. i am dylan ratigan. up next, "hardball" with chris matthews which starts right now. karl rove gets nasty, but what else is new? let's play "hardball." good evening. leading off tonight, shades of nixon. karl rove is reaching back into the nixon playbook and charging that president obama has an enemies list. the claim came in response to the president's claim that rove and others orchestrated adsç pd for by donors. plus, the republicans hopes of portraying the democrats as a freak show has gotten a boost.
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first, carl paladino said he didn't want children quote, being brainwashed into thinking homosexuality is acceptable. then we learn a candidate likes to dress up like a nazi. also, honey, get me rewright. we told you the guys in that republican west virginia ad were actors hired in philly. well tonight, one of those actors joining us to talk about his role. guess who he supports? and sarah palin, move over. "saturday night live" has new favorite. >> if i were a witch, why wouldn't i just cast a spell making you forget i'm a witch? it's not because the spell requires one nute per person. >> more on that. of course, tonight is all side show. let me finish tonight with how we can put people back to work and keep this country competitive with europe and asia
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at the same time. let's get to the latest poll numbers. we'll start with kentucky. rand paul has only a three-point lead over conway. and bill clinton campaigned for conway today. look for an upset there. in wisconsin, it's republican johnson with an eight-point lead over feingold. we'll continue to check the "hardball" scoreboard on all the big races each night leading up to election day. now to those new attacks against president obama and accusations from karl rove that the president's keeping an enemies list. david corn's the washington bureau chief. and chris cillizza is with "the washington post." thank you for joining us. to start, columbus day. here's karl rove on fox. let's listen. >> they have not one shred of evidence to back up that
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baseless lie. this is a desperate and i think disturbing trend by the president of the united states to tar his political adversaries with some kind ofç enemies lis with being unrestrained by any evidence whatsoever. >> human talking points. here's president obama thursday in chicago. >> two groups funding and advised by karl rove have outspent the democratic party two to one in an attempt to beat election. two to one. funded and advised by karl rove. just this week, we learned that one of the largest groups paying for these ads regularly takes in money from foreign sources. so the question for the people of illinois is are you going to let special interests from wall street and washington and maybe places beyond our shores come to
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this state and tell us who our senators should be? that's not just a tret to democrats. that's a threat to our democracy. >> the democrats are doubling down on that argument that the republican campaigns are being paid for my secret sources, some from aboard. let's take a look at the new dnc ad that makes the same point. that may explain why rove has come out of the bushes on this thing. >> karl rove. ed glis. their shields for big business and they're stealing our democracy, stealing millions from secret donors to let republicans do their bidding in congress. it appears they even take in secret foreign money. it's incredible. republicans benefitting from secret, foreign money. tell the bush crowd, stop stealing our democracy. >> that ripped a scab off, didn't it? i understand why old rove came
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out. i guess somebody roused him on this. >> i want to know what that woman was doing when her purse was stolen in that ad. karl rove is really mugging or spinning history when he equates what the obama white house and dnc is doing to an enemies list. >> here, what he was doing is trying to make the president come down a bit. >>ç the enemies list was a sect list of people who, including gregory peck, joe namath, paul newman, opponents of the white house, how can we screw these guys. white house language. not mine. all obama's doing is calling out his political opponents. >> chris cillizza, isn't that the strategy of rove who knows what he's doing? he's a nasty bugger, but it seems what he's doing is he
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knows the president's popular, let's call dick nixon. >> i would say this is a political win-win. barack obama knows that by talking about karl rove, foreign money, these outside groups, it gets the democratic base which we talked about endlessly, it gets them interested. >> cillizza, you are growing every day -- >> my question -- you've answered my question. let me try to question some people. some of the slower ones among us like me. get to the question before you get to the answer. the question is why would a president way up here, president of the united states, attack this little guy down here named karl rove? >> punching down -- politics is usual not a good idea. you always want to be the little guy who the big guy talks about because then you're in the conversation with a big guy.
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the one thing i would say that is odd, i get why the president's doing it, but for karl rove, i bet he is sitting back and smiling broadly. american cross roads, this group he helped develop. great for fund raising. >> the bigger point, too, is that john boehner is not as big a target as karl rove. he's not as well-known. people in the base -- >> a guy on a golf course somewhere. >> he was the guy that took us into that. there's two options. this was my question i was going to put to chris cillizza. the options, the president's making a bigç mistake here by going low. he knows that it's a
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political -- you've got to hold the left. >> right now, the right has a target. it's president obama. the democrats are running races. they have no centralized target. >> let's bring in david axelrod. he talked about schieffer yesterday. what's this fight about? how did the president get into a fight with this middle weight champion who lost a few championship belts over the years, karl rove. let's listen. >> this part about foreign money, that appears to be peanuts, mr. axelrod. do you have any evidence that it's anything other than peanuts? >> well, do you have any evidence that it's not? the fact is, the chamber has asserted that, but won't release any information about where they're campaign money is coming from and that's at the core of the problem here. >> if the only charge three weeks into the election that the democrats can make is that
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somehow this may or may not be foreign money coming into the campaign, is that the best you can do? >> no, i think that we have a more, a fundamental concern, bob, which is that the republican party and these interest groups who are now the major force in some of these campaigns want to turn the clock back to the very same policies that got us into this mess in the first place. >> here's the former chair of the party reacting to axelrod on cbs. let's listen. >> the notion that david axelrod, a sworn official in the white house, would sit on this set and say, i'm going to allow these charges and let them prove it's wrong. if i accuse the camera man, hey, you've taken foreign money. that is an unbelievable mentality. >> talking about the camera man there. a little weird. here's the question. cillizza first. if the u.s. chamber of commerce raises millions and millions of
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dollars from its corporate sources including overseas sources and funnels that money into these republican campaignsç what is illegitimate about what axelrod and the president are saying? what's wrong with the basic charge? >> there's nothing wrong, but it's hard to prove a negative. the chamber is, i think what the white house wants is for the chamber to disclose the money they're spending, which they're not going to do. is that kind of back and forth reminding you of a dip in boston history, there was a great "cheers" episode. he doesn't know what the three of them have in common. his question is who are three people who have never been in my kitchen. now, those people had never been in his kitchen, but that's not the point. >> let me make a narrower case.
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a lot of working people in this country are suspicious that the big corporations spend their time cutting jobs. they do it for globalization purposes. they engage in outsourcing. send jobs overseas. they do everything they can to screw the working person and make more money. that's what they think. who funds them? rather, where do they get their money? from those very sources and uses it to elect people in congress who will support that enterprise of shifting jobs overseas, cost cutting, eliminating the american workforce basically. they have a judge which is pretty hard here. you are screwing me. i'd like to know who's paying for this. you just made the argument better than the white house has made.
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exactly right. the big issue is special interest money overall and they're being caught nup this little side. >> let me put the objective question. what is the number one goal of every major corporation in these tough times. reduce costs. how? reduce payroll. how do you reduce costs? get cheaper sources overseas from cheaper payrolls overseas from people who work for less in sweatshops. the whole goal isç to benefit your exchange with the working man and woman in this country. who's side are you on? >> to david's point, you framed it more effectively. the white house is in a debate over how much foreign money should they disclose. populism has proved very effective. sharron angle ran as a populous. rand paul. populism still has a place in
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this country. >> you make it sound emotional. you work in our business. you reduce the number of camera people, the number of people who work in the business. >> that's not the debate the white house -- started. that's not the debate the white house started, which is big business is bad for america. i don't disagree that's not a bad place. they started on the u.s. chamber takes money from foreign corporations. but i'm not debating your back and forth. i'm debating what the white house started on. >> but you're running against the so-called patriot side of everything. the right wing claims to be the patriots and turns out they're using foreign money. this is your argument. >> to me, the source of the money is not the key thing. it's what the chamber and karl rove are doing.
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they're supporting wisconsins that are lowering costs and trying to get jobs overseas. whether it's from money that comes from paris or princeton, i don't care. i think the white house has allowed itself to -- >> karl rove is smiling right now. >> one of those guys, guys out there with the big, white uniforms on and bull horns blowing -- not the bull horns, whatever they're called. the megaphones. cheering on this right wing cause. david corn, thank you. >> this is great. i have to say, this whole eight, ten minutes was great for their fund raising because republican donors don't like president obama and the more it's karl rove versus obama, the more ads you're going to see. >> jobs, jobs, jobs. david corn, chris cillizza. coming up, if democrats want to paint republicans as extreme, one candidate dresses up like aç nazi. why does he want to play that other side? another saying children
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two republicans just under scored the democrats' argument that are in dangerous territory. first, they came to light. a guy out of ohio, a nominated candidate, the long time member of a nazi re-enactment group. over the weekend, that's his weekend warrior status. and carl paladino, the guy who was going to snuff is reporter the other day. saying i'm going to take you out. he said that people who are gay are not equal to those who are straight. wait until you hear them.ç >> i didn't march in a gay parade this year. the gay pride parade this year. my opponent did. and that's not the example we
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should be showing our children. don't misquote me as wants to hurt homosexual people in any way. that would be a lie. my approach the live and let live. i just think my children and your children will be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family and i don't want them to be b brainwashed into thinking homosexuality is an option. it isn't. >> used to say these kids are choosing. you have to ask when paladino made his choice. josh greene's here. he broke the nazi story to "the atlantic." . i want to go to the nazi story. it's too much for me. you found out this guy running as the republican nominee for congress in ohio had a avocation.
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explain. >> he's a nazi re-enactor. it's against the law in germany. you'd get arrested. but this group contists mainly in the midwest. they're called the vikings and are modelled after a german, second world war unit. mainly stationed on the other than front. >> is this some kind of homoerotic thing they do? what do they actually do? >> they have a website. >> what do they do? >> they get together and re-enact these battles. they've got guns and equipment. >> who plays the red army? >> festivals and things like that. i never heard that either. >> do you believe it? do you believe there's red army guys claiming they're fighting somebody else? you've never seen the uniforms on the other side have you? but you do see these pictures. for all you know,ç the other se
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is the cover argument. all you know is that these guys like to put nazi uniforms on. they say it's because they're interested in world war ii history. when you talk to historians, they're appalled at this because this group kind of sanitizes this version of history. >> total lack of sympathy for the horror of the century to put it lightly. but what about the guy saying he sympathizes with this little country that took on the world. that's his defense. >> yeah. they're really interested in kind of german history and these military achievements and kind of glorifying world war ii germany while trying to separate all the bad things out. >> something you're not quite picking up. it's not just him. this is a group that gets together. there's a number of people that
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like to do this. >> he says millions. i couldn't put a number on it, but i got a couple of hundred e-mails. they prefer the term world war ii german reenactors. >> hold on. let's go -- here's how i defended his group. you know, my son did one of those, civil war. he played the southerner. the fact is, both sides in the civil war are proud of their history. everybody from the south, whatever they don't like slavery, but they like the guts in those guys who fought with the advantages of wealth in the north and the northerners are proud they fought for the republic and the union.
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it's about pride and tradition. where's the pride and tradition in being a nazi? i don't get that. these guys who put on those red uniforms are damn proud to put them on. >> he told me this is the history of the country and that he thinksç you can separate th atrocities and army from what he would consider acts of valor. >> he plays s.s. characterers. >> yeah. >> doesn't play regular army. >> you know -- this is why -- >> here's paladino. running for governor of new york, trying to clarify his remarks this morning. these are his remarks about the gay pride parade when talking the other day. >> that remark has to do with --
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my feelings on homosexuality are unequivocal. i have no problem with it. my only reservation is marriage. it's the only reservation i have. i have a lot of homosexuals working in my organization. young children should not be exposed to that. it's a very difficult thing and exposing them to homosexuality, especially at a gay pride parade, and i don't know if you've been to one, but they wear these little speedos and grind against each other and it's a terrible thing. >> maggie, thank you for joining us. i don't know now you, but i'm calling you maggie. what do you make of this? >> i think he was delivering lines he didn't write and his aides didn't write. they were written for him a
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conservative rabbi. it was like a walk back and i was with him throughout the columbus day parade today. he said it several times. he said that andrew cuomo had shown he wasn't a great father by taking his daughters to it. he said one issue was gay marriage and other than that, he supports them. it's hard to go from that to the night before, questioning a valid lifestyle. and you know, it's amazing when a candidate actually ups their ante after accusing their rival of extramarital affairs. we don't see this in new york very often. >> he is aç culturely conservative man. is he thinking there's a 51% that would support his conservative views? >> no. i think he is being himself. there has been a debate. they are letting him be him.
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>> i guess i've covered politics a long time, but have you heard of a politician agreeing to walk into a group and read the speech that he was handed by the group to read as if it were his words. you see the picture. he's stumbling over these words. trying to read these words, but they're not his words then afterwards, he sort of denies them. >> i've never heard of this before. i've never heard of a campaign picking up a script and saying, yes, i will read this. he says he read it in the car. it's not true. i spoke to reporters there. it was given out beforehand. regardless, it is hard for reporters to separate remarks and then be told this wasn't something we did. this is something given to us. this is the kind of thing that carl paladino, who has a message that is resognating with a lot of people right now because
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cuomo's campaign has been seen as timid. this is the problem he keeps running into. he keeps messing up and has to spend another day explaining. >> so interesting that he pointed out that he was given that sheet to read from when he visited there and read, said i struck out one line i didn't want to read they had scripted. it was there is nothing to be proud of in being a dysfunctional homosexual. i guess that makes him a moderate. >> moderated the remarks any way. yes. >> ludicrous these people are where they are. thank you for unmasking this guy in his uniform. a good job of giving the guy a fair shake and he still doesn't look too good. up next, christine o'donnell's bizarre ad gets the snl tribute. you know it had to.
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back to "hardball." time for the "sideshow." party on, california. republican candidates meg whitt mann and carly fiorina made a memorable appearance at the hispanic awards dinner. a band cheered the two ladies on as they downed tequila shots. here's fiorina showing the spirit. >> you know, i must say this evening has spoiled me forever. i think every speech should begin with a shot of tequila. >> wow. meg whitman has a problem with
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latinos, having fired one after employing her illegally after nine years. next, i am not a witch. that was the opening of christine o'donnell's campaign ad. >> hi, i'm christine o'donnell and i am not a witch. i'm nothing like you've heard. i'm you. and just like you, i have to constantly deny that i'm a witch. that's the kind of candidate delaware hasn't had since 1692. and that's why if elected to the human senate, i promise to fly straight down to washington on a plane and do exactly what you would do. not spells.ç so, this november 2nd, vote for christine o'donnell, a.k.a. the enchantress because i am not a witch. and if i am, do you really want to cross me?
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now back to "hardball." wild show tonight. one of the many states where karl rove and his associates are hitting is new hampshire. >> congressmanç hodes claims - >> you deserve a senator who gets rid of the pork. >> but hodes voted for the pork-filled stimulus bill. $1.9 million in africa. $39 million nor office upgrades for politicians. unemployment still higher. no wonder the leader says -- the guy just can't tell the truth. >> the latest our g poll of new hampshire shows hodes trailing
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kelly ayotte by five points. ayotte's lead has been cut from 14 in two weeks. congressman hodes joins us from boston. seems like you're in a heck of a race right now. what are you doing that's selling with the voters? looks like the projection is good for you three weeks out. >> chris, thanks. clearly, the momentum is with us in this campaign. there's a simple choice in this election. are you going to choose somebody who stands up far people and against the special interests or stand with somebody who wants to hand our government over to big oil, big wall street, the big health insurance companies and who's been endorsed by folks like the chamber of commerce who released an avalanche of misleading, negative advertising that voters have little appetite for. today, there was a stunning development in this campaign. e-mails were just released which show that back in 2006, kelly
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ayotte's chief campaign strategist back then said to her, get ready to run. this was in late october of '06. she responded, have you seen a police officer was killed and i'm going after the death penalty. he responded, we know where new hampshire stands on the death penalty. by the switch. it is stunning that the chief law enforcement officer would inject the death penalty into a political context, try to use it as a spring board for her political ambitions. >> are you saying she set out to execute somebody in order to get votes? >> i'm saying she wasn't above using a murder case and death penalty caseç as a spring boar for her personal -- >> you have e-mails. what does the e-mail from her suggest what you said? >> because her immediate response when her campaign
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strategist in 2006 says get ready to run, her immediate response is, i've just announced i'm seeking the death penalty and he says, absolutely right, i know where you stand. by the switch. >> like electric chair? >> that could be the only thing he could have meant. he understands she's talking about using the death penalty. it's wrong. it's not the way the ag's office i was in under david suitor works. fierce independent. fierce integrity. she based her campaign saying she's not a politician. she's a prosecutor. this is cold. this is ruthless. this is a politician planning to run for years and wants the people to believe she's someone else. >> you're not the odd man out. what is it about new hampshire that's going to accept you this year? you've got to run with a president who's popular
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personally, but in this economy is terrible. how do you attack in that wind storm against you? >> chris, i've been an independent voice for new hampshire when i was in congress. i first ran talking about deficits. so i've got a real brief to stand on in terms of physical responsibility and conservatism. we've got the grow is economy on a firm foundation and can't go back to the policies that got us in trouble. that's all my opponent is selling. she wants to tell sell tax cuts to the rich. she's fine with tax breaks for companies that shift jobs overseas. the folks in new hampshire know that we need to make maiden america mean something again and they're respond ting to a question. >> clinton balanced the budget
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when he was president. >> i'd be happy to have president clinton or obama. >> çlet's take a look at bill clinton today. the former president, kentucky. let's lin listen. >> we dug this big hole for eight years and took 21 months to get us out. throw them out. put us back in. let's get our shovels. they're playing you. >> they're playing you. thank you very much. paul hodes from new hampshire. good luck in your race. up next, remember this ad against joe manchin? he's hitting back and when we return, we'll talk to one of the actors from that ad. he's going to give us the insight on what it's like to put together one of these ads. [ advisor 1 ] what do you see yourself doing one week,
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>> wow. here's the lowell role they that put him in the national political conversation. >> obama's messing things up. spending money we don't have. >> know's not bad as governor, but when he's with obama, he turns into washington joe and washington joe does whatever obama wants. >> we better keep joe here in west virginia, away from washington. it's the only way we're going to stop obama. >> the national republican senatorial committee is responsible for the content of this advertisement. >> where did you shoot that commercial for the republicans? >> you probably already know. that was shot in south philadelphia. >> do you have any idea why they cast this? why they went to philly to get the west virginia feel? you'd think they want to go out
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in the country. >> i don't know if that much thought went into it, but when you actually, chris. but if you're hiring an author someone who can or cannot do dialects andç give material. you go where the work is and i guess the availability is there. >> i have to tell you i've been to a lot of dinets in the morning, guys read the paper, hang out with the boys. not just retirees, guys their age, your age. >> yeah. >> and i didn't find that commercial to be negative if n any way. along the pennsylvania turnpike, along the highway. the guys are wearing cat hats, caterpillar hats, fine. your accent, did you work on that to make yourself seem more mountain state or what? or did you just do your regular south jersey accent or what. >> no, i mean, there was a little bit of a removal of a south jersey accent. >> right. >> and again, you've looked at this documentation so you know that they really weren't looking for accents. just plain-speaking plain folk. >> and what about the costuming, was that ready when you got there? you are fit the uniform or how did that work.
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>> generally as an actor when you're called to the set a lot of times they'll ask you just to bring wardrobe choice so you'll bring flannel shirts, hats, boots, things of that nature. a lot of times of what comes up on the screen is not the material itself but a lot of times of how it blends with the material. you have the lighting to worry about, the color saturation the framing. a lot of that goes into it so it doesn't help to look too much into it. >> does it bother you to be playing a political guy to be knocking the guy manchin of west virginia. you probably never met the guy. you're knock the guy saying he's an obamaitie, no good for the state. what did you think of that? is that your thinking. >> yeah, well it's no -- for me it's no fun to knock anybody especially somebody i don't know and we didn't even know -- >> ha, ha. >> we didn't know who joe manchin was until the day of the shoot. it was all pretty much you know kept quiet. >> did you google him -- googled the guy since to find out who manchin is? >> yeah, i pretty much know who he is now especially since he's run his own commercial starring
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me. >> okay. here it is, here it is. ♪ here's joe manchin he put out an ad to counter the one that you're in. >> his people hired actors from philadelphia to attack joe manchin. and told him to dress hicky. >> philadelphia, isn't that a great place? by the way i'm from philly, did you have to say water instead of water. did they teach you how to talk outside of philly or what. >> saying water or, check this ç out. you can't really say when you're trying to be middle of the road. >> an attitude from philly, could you? >> attitude. forgot about it. >> yeah, beautiful. that's where i grew up, look we're talking about that. this ad is really -- what i thought about it was the hype. do you think that it was wrong to ridicule this ad from the other side, downing that it knocked anybody, i did. your thoughts? >> yeah, if somebody's offended by the word, whether the word, hick, you're a hicky or
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something, obviously that's not right. i think where joe manchin went off of the tracks he's pretending actors that they're west virginians. we should have hired west virginia actors to do this sketch -- commercial, sorry, it ended up being a sketch, to say, well they're still going to read john raese's script. still going to be ripping and humiliating you, joe manchin. so you'd rather people in your home state rip you than people outside of the state. i don't think that that would have made him happy. the big problem is really he's behind in the polls and it's desperation time but i honestly, i like that. and that actually makes me kind of lean towards supporting the guy. i don't live in west virginia, but i kind of hope he wins. >> you hope manchin wins? >> sure, you're a philly guy you like a rocky balboa story, right? >> i want to get you some cues from you, because my son's an actor and he's doing what you're doing trying to get these jobs and i have to tell you i'm rooting for you every day of the week, sir, because it's tough. >> don't follow my footsteps. >> have you seen city island yet about the cop trying to make it
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as an actor. >> no. >> a great actor, city island. andy garcia. >> garcia. >> garcia is the kind of guy that i like. thanks for coming up on the show and being a good sport and endorsing joe manchin. when we return, let me finish with how america can put people back to work and stay competitive at same time. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if cars didn't need keys? if you could talk to them with this? if you turbocharged this little guy? if old water bottles became new seats? if you never bought another gallon of gas? or what if cars had force fields?
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the news -- jobs. that friday unemployment number stuck at 9.6% begins to look dangerously like the resaid. not hiert normal but the new normal. if this is where we're going to be stuck as a country, bumping up against 10% of us regularly out of work, it's really almost double that number, if you add up the unemployed part-time employed temporarily employed, the fact is there's a nastily high amount of underused people in these united states that aren't working, haven't been, and won't be for the foreseeable future. and the reality, which is hitting hard right now is that big corporations make their profits by coming up with state-of-the-art ways to reduce the number of people they have on their payrolls, people they have to pay salary, to health care and retirement benefits. they look constantly to engineer their operations to get machines to do the work. productivity and automation are great for the corporate bottom line, not so great for the guy or woman who used to work at the plant but doesn't anymore and
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their kids who grew up looking forward to work there. so if we're going to have full employment again, meaning a jobless rate down to 4%, 5% again we're going to need a new demand for labor, something that doesn't depend on getting gendered you up by the consumer or corporation. ironically, the new frontier of job creation in this country may be in that huge area right where we live, the roads and bridges we travel every day, the subways and train lines we use, the airports that handle all of today's traffic. it's here that the jobs of the coming years could come and making steel, building bridges, manufacturing road equipment, that's what president obama pushed for today in a meeting with current and pastç transportation secretaries. but it's not enough. europe has fast trains, so does asia, why are we stuck in the past? why don't we fly from washington to new york instead of taking rapid rail? why aren't we riding across america at 300-plus miles an hour like they do in other continents? why is america a flyover country between new york and l.a., when it should
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