could a father and son's hug be any sweeter? >> msnbc's live coverage of the rescue of the chilean miners continues with msnbc's chris jansen. >> lawrence, thank you, i don't know about you, but even seeing that rescue again brought tears to my eyes. isn't that remarkable when you think about what's happened over the last 70 days now. >> extraordinary. they're talking about it as a miracle. i don't know what other word you would use. >> thank you so much, lawrence. never before had anyone been trapped under ground that long. never before has there been a rescue at that depth. an absolutely remarkable scene this hour in chile where the rescue operation, as we've been telling you, does continue. the first of the trapped miners successfully raised to the surface at 11:10 eastern time.

florencio avalos greeted by his family. that emotional moment with his son. he hugged his wife. the engineers responsible for rescuing him. he was then taken to a triage area for medical treatment. then the pattern beginning again. the phoenix 2 capsule lowered for its second trip, this time with a second rescue worker descending to the miners underground. he joined a colleague below in evaluating the condition of the miners and preparing them for this journey to the surface. only 12 minutes later the second capsule carrying miner mario sepulveda was on its way back to the surface. the rescue operation now establishing a routine for an event that is anything but routine. 20 minutes for the capsule to descend, then the capsule again rising to the surface about a 15-minute trip. the miners are wearing special suits. they're compression suits. sort of like pressure stockings like people wear on airplanes to

help with blood circulation. they're also wearing oxygen masks. they will use live cameras, there's a radio link in there, there's monitors for their vital signs. the first four miners to ascend tonight considered to be the physically fittest. then they'll take up the ten weakest member. many have been suffering medical problems from their long confinement. the last member slated for rescue is the group's foreman, luis ur zurzua. he's credited with helping keep them alive by stretching a two-day spli of food for 17 days. kerry sanders and natalie morales have been on the ground. extraordinary to watch. a billion people are watching this worldwide. we've been seeing the pictures, but paint a picture for us, will you, of what it feels like to be there. what's the emotion there?

>> well, we're now -- kerry has a stopwatch running, about seven minutes into mario sepulveda's rescue. he's the second miner. i can tell you it's unreal. unlike anything i've ever reported on. chris, i was there on the desk during the quecreek mine rescue. and nine for nine. i remember the emotion of that moment. you have 33 guys who have gone 70 days now. to experience this moment, all the families here have described this as a rebirth for them in a lot of ways. that's exactly what you sense and the emotion as each one is being rescued. what about for you, kerry? >> well, you know, they named this camp esperanza, which means camp hope. and the hope is delivered. i'm caught up in the moment. i've been up since around 4:30 this morning. >> same here. >> and i don't feel tired.

>> can't help but keep going. >> i want to cheer. just like, yes, they're doing it. they're doing it. and i'm thrilled, i really am. just to survive this long down below is one thing, but then to have the men on the surface, to have the american team drill down and get to them, to get this phoenix design, then to drop it down, to shoot down there, to get the men in there and now bringing the second one up. he's on a trip that is 8:38 under way. >> probably about 4 minutes from the surface as we're going by what has been sort of the set time. we saw florencio avalos come up first. he was greeted by his little son which i think that was a scene that touched every single human being tonight, seeing that hug. and in fact, when his father was taken away to go into the triage area, you saw him bawling his

little eyes out. i felt that moment like a parent does. your child just wants to hold on to you and never let you go after an experience like this. >> mario subpoena el veepulveda0 on october 2nd, the man inside that phoenix 2 capsule. he has two children, he is married. coming to the surface. kerry, you spent so much time in recent weeks with these families. i can only imagine what this moment is like for them. >> oh, well, you know, mang birthdays, occasions, things have passed here. they've actually sent down birthday greetings. hers have gone down. then the men down below when this day was getting so close started to pack things up and send them to the surface, clothes, mementos, things they wanted to keep from their experience down there.

the president said just a short time ago when he was giving this speech, when they get out of there, this mine will close. this will not be an operational mine again. it's a gold and copper mine, but now it will be a much more important symbol to this country than a place where men risk their lives for the value of what minerals are down in the earth. >> it's an interesting thing here as we've talked to some of the locals here, they said nobody would ever say that they know or they've been to copiapo, chile, before. everybody now as they struggle with the pronoununciation is, t now know where copiapo, chile, is on the map. there will be a high degree of interest in coming to visit and to see what this place has become. 2,000 people are here experiencing this moment as journalists from over 200 nations including north korea even sent a crew here. so gives you an idea of the

level of interest in this incredible and historic survival story. no one has ever survived something like this before and here we have 33 men doing the unthinkable. >> one of the things i think that is -- i was going to ask you about that town, because one of the things that has so impressed us sitting back here is watching the way that so many people have come together to make this rescue happen. you've mentioned several times, kerry, more than a thousand experts who were involved. but when you think of a small town like this and suddenly, literally the world descends upon them. they're getting pushed and pulled from every possible direction. they led very simple, normal lives in this mining town. and suddenly they're the focus of the international spotlight. i have to wonder -- and it seem like the excitement is very much building around the capsule there. how this town has copied, kerry.

>> well, they've been crushed by journalists if around the world. there's not a hotel room available. the few restaurants that are here don't have seats for those who have been going out to eat as we have been waiting for this day to arrive. we're now 12 minutes 23 seconds into the second launch of the phoenix to the surface. copiapo is actually a name that comes from the ketchua language which is the indian language in peru. >> cup of gold. >> cup of gold. >> you can see mario sepulveda's wife there just holding on for dear life, putting her hand to her heart, the look in her eyes and the emotion she must be feeling at this very moment. i was talking to a lot of the wives today. there is a high degree of anxiety. some nerves. although, kerry, as women will

do, a lot going to the hair dressing tent and getting their hair done. >> fingernails. >> getting made up. because this is like a wedding day all over again. in fact, there is a woman who was proposed to while she was here by one of the miners. she joked, i wasn't planning on wearing a white dress, if you know what i mean. >> if she had a minister at the top, that might be even a little bit much. >> a moment. >> honestly, what i thought was i know they have monitors on them and i know they're very concerned that they might panic, that in this enclosed space and all the anxiousness going into this, they were concerned about the health of the miners going up. but as i'm watching mario sepulveda's wife, maybe they need monitors on family members. she looks like she's going to explode. >> there it goes. yes. mario sepulveda.

>> the cheers. >> second miner to be brought to the surface. look at that. >> she's just rushing to get to that capsule. she can't wait. >> 15 minutes 1 second. >> he's like open the toor already. please get me out of here. >> oh, yes. there we go. >> i hope it's not a door jam. there we go. mario sepulveda, the great communicator. he's the one that provided all those videos early on showing us the tour of their 600-square-foot sub tterranean quarters, if you can call them that. now getting the moment he's waited 70 days for. kind of hard to hug with a hard hat on. >> he's got something in the bag

there. >> he comes bearing gifts. let's see. >> oh, hee bringing up the rocks. he's bringing up the rocks. >> of course, as i said, this is the guy whose family said he's made for tv. he's born the be an actor. you see this moment a made-for-tv moment. >> a lot of those rocks have fool's gold in them. they're shiny and they look like but they're not gold. >> giving every single one a hug. chile's president pinera. big bear hug. >> and i really think that those smiles and the embraces that you've seen first with his wife and with the president and with some of the people who helped this rescue become possible really say everything. it is an extraordinary sight. >> it's a special moment.

>> there. that's the minister of mines that he was just embracing. first lady of the country, giving her a hug. >> there's rene aguilar. >> he wants to give everyone due credit because this is a team effort. the rescue teams have not slept as well. >> look at this guy. >> he's a ham. >> look at him. there he goes. >> i told you, he's a great communicator here, as they called him. >> look at that. he's going to thank every -- i think everybody in chile is going to shake his hand and all these other guys. >> he's got some competition. everybody here in the crowd at camp hope, they're chanting along with mario sepulveda. >> this really has been something. >> they don't need to take him

to the triage area. he's got the energy. >> i don't think he needs to check in whatsoever. of course, there will be a lot of euphoria. that's actually one of this things that a lot of the psychiatrists and psychologists have talked about, there will be the initial period of extreme euphoria. they temper the expectation and make sure these guys get the due care over the next hours and the next couple of days because their lives will be vastly different. they're now national heroes, international celebrities. >> and soon to be movie stars. >> and soon to be movie stars and soon to have our job, kerry sanders. >> look at that. rene aguilar there. look at these hugs and kisses. so proud of these guys. >> if this doesn't make you feel good, nothing will. >> amazing energy. >> because it was impossible, and it wasn't. >> nothing is impossible if you

have the love and the country and the support that all of these guys have experienced all along the way. you got to lay down now, but you know he's not going to be down for long. they're going to go check him out. but they have to keep running here. they want to get to the next guy. >> exactly. we're 1 hour, 54 minutes and 39 seconds into the rescues as he makes his way into the triage area. boy, that was energetic. >> oh, my goodness. >> the president is just like what just happened? >> it's quite a contrast. i have to tell you, we were talking earlier to some of the quecreek miners. and they were saying they had no idea when they came up what to expect, that they were shocked. they thought there might be some local media there, some of the local tv stations maybe. and they came up and they realized that the world had been

watching, but nothing like this because they had had this camera down there. they had communication. and they come up and it's almost like they're ready. here's my moment. i've been planning for this. because boy, you could not write a script any better than this, could you? >> chris, you know, they're so prepared that they actually had media specialists giving them some lessons on how to interact with reporters once they made it to the surface. >> i think mario aced that, by the way. mario sepulveda. he's teaching the course. obviously, as you were saying, chris, it was sort of a very different scene from the first rescue to is the second. the first rescue is tears and emotion that we all felt and saw. now there's this energy and this excitement and wanting to see the next. and moving on to the next will

be juan yanez will be rescue number three. you can see one of the rescuers gearing up to go down. >> there we go, one of the paramedics. they have guys from the military. just based on the color of his uniform, he must be a commando with the military. the reason they chose them is not only because of their med ingal skills but also their ability to think quickly on their feet and have a fresh perspective of what might become a problem. but thus far, two down, two up, no problems, let's hope it stays that way. we saw them hand out the rocks. i'm going to see if i can get one of those rocks that was given to me brought up here so we can show it. i'm going to reach out to one of our producers here, erica, to see if we can get that rock -- >> when i was here two weeks ago, we walked around. as you walk, there's a glint,

almost of copper and gold. and it's a shiver. you pick it up and you say this is what they sacrificed for. this is why they go down into these mines. obviously they're going for the real thing. and it's a dangerous job, but in general, it's a very profitable job here in chile. et is their primary industry here. it is a very successful way to make a living. and for the most part, they do very well working in the mines, and they have not experienced that many accidents. it's considered a relatively safe job. this, though, was a different story with this mine. as you said, kerry, the plan is to close this mine after this. >> let me show you what the rock is. i'm going to bring the rock a little bit closer here so that you can see some of the flecks inside there. that's fool's gold. some of the people when they

first showed up thought they were actually finding gold. >> that was me, kerry. >> but they are -- and this is some of the hardest rock on earth, harder than quartz. that's what really took so long. that drill bit that was going down, it dulled and they had to replace it, and then they had to replace it, and then they had to replace it. the process was with three different drill teams racing down, we had a team -- they were all led by the chilean, but a team from south africa, a team from the united states and a team from canada. they were using different approaches with different equipment. at the end it was the american team that got there first, widened the hole and set everything in place here for what we're now watching. >> chris, you have been talking with some of the survivors of quecreek. it was some of those survivors

that enabled that drilling to happen and who enabled this rescue because tom foy said he made the phone call that we got to get -- when they heard that it was going to take four month, up until christmastime to come out, tom foy, one o the nine survivors of quecreek said no way am i going to let this go till christmas. beef got the way, we've got the means, we've got the wherewithal, we'll make this happen. the team from somerset county, berlin, pennsylvania, they made a lot of this happen. >> consider tom foy reaches out to center rock, center rock contacts the governor, the governor of pennsylvania reaches out to the ambassador, the ambassador reaches out to the country. they're all dispatched down here. and think about the circle of this. if tom foy had not survived, those guys may not have made their way here. so for his survival, we now have what looks like 33 men all making their way to the surface.

>> we have come full circle. remarkable here as we see the third rescuer now going down in to the capsule, and he's getting ready to go down rescue cua cuani yanez. gravity pulls the phoenix capsule down. then the winch brings it back up with our next rescue. >> natalie moral is and kerry sanders continuing their extraordinary coverage as we watch the third rescuer get into the cap tulle. we're now in day 70 for the 33 trapped miners. now there are 31. florencio avalos coming up a little after midnight local chile time. then mario sepulveda and now juan yanez.

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that's the extraordinary celebration that happened just a few minutes ago when the second of the 33 chilean miners, mario sepulveda came up hugging all of the folks who are there, many are involved in making this rescue possible. and cheering for chile. this is something that has not only brought an entire nation today but has literally inspired and captivated the world with an estimated 1 billion people watching this mine rescue worldwide. welcome back to msnbc's ongoing coverage. we're going to be with you all

night long. we're expecting that about once an hour one of these miners will be brought to the surface. for the first two, at least, the process has been absolutely flawless. they lower that capsule the phoenix 2 down for about a 20-minute ride. the first four of those carrying some of the rescuers with them. and then about a 16-minute ascent to is surface, then a reunion. mario sepulveda seeing his wife. he celebrated his 40th birthday underground on october 2nd. there may be an expectation there is another kind of celebration awaiting him at home. the two brought up so favre brought into triage. they will be taken to a hospital. these first four coming up considered to be in good physical health. they'll be followed by some who have had physical problems, especially skin problems, some dental problems from what is now 70 days underground.

i want to bring in jeff goodell. he's the author of the book "our story" an account of the nine miners trapped in a pennsylvania coal mine. thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to go back to that first emotional moment because you have spent so much time with the miners from quecreek. and you have a sense of what that is like. i wonder what went through your mind when you saw the first and now the second rescue come through successfully? >> well, i think it's just an amazing passage that these men are making. we talked a lot about the hardships of their survival underground. but this life under ground is the life that they've known all of their lives. this is where they work every day in this mine. and in a certain way, there's a kind of familiarity to it. not to take anything away from this extraordinary survival, but it's a familiar world to them. when they get in the capsule,

they move into the surface in a world that is really unfamiliar to them. 2,000 journalists there, there's a billion people watching this. their names are going to be on the lips of people around the world. and it's going to bring with it, with all the emotion we're seeing now, as that emotion begins to fade, a lot of complexities. a lot of movie producers will be pounding on their doors, a lot of writers, commercial endorsements, there's a lot of tricky decisions to make, a lot of things to think about with their families, where their lives go next. will they continue to work in mines? will they go off and do something different? a very different time they're walking into as they walk out of that capsule. >> we've heard a lot about how chile has handled this whole situation. they've gotten literally worldwide praise for how carefully they have planned all this. how they've taken advice from

experts from other places not just in terms of the rescue itself and we know that the drill experts were brought in from pennsylvania but also nasa experts who know what it's like for people to be in confined spaces for a long time both physically and psychologically. but i'm wondering how much can you prepare for and how much is just so individual and you can't really know what it's like until you have to go through it? >> yeah, i think that's true. obviously, this is a very well engineered, well crafted rescue operation that's going on here. but for the men themselves, i think it will depend very much on their individual psyches, who they are, how they handle all this. we saw that with the pennsylvania miner rescue. some of the men did very well when they came out. and some of the men really had difficult times. and i think that you can prepare for this all you want. you can have media consultants sending you messages down into

the mine. you can think about this and talk about this, but when you get out and when you emerge into this and when you have all of these new complicated pressures pushed at one all at once and a strong sense of this is your moment, this is the moment when we need to do something, to take advantage of this moment, it makes it all really complicated. >> i'm wondering with the quecreek miners, did they feel that? was there a sense of this is our 15 minutes essentially and we have to grab it and capitalize on it? what kind of things did they go through in the first days and weeks after they were rescued? >> the first days and week, i think were mostly filled up with being reunited with their family. with the kind of gratitude being rescued. i remember several of the miners talking to me about laying in the hospital bed and watching the sunrise and how powerful that was for them. the first week or so is

typically a pretty simple time. but as time goes on and as they have to make decisions about what they're going to do next, it gets more difficult. with the quecreek miners, you know, there was a lot of -- the brotherhood began to fray some. some miners wanted to do things together, some wanted to go off on their own, some wanted to do their own book deals, some wanted to do their own endorsements. there was jealousy about what miner was flown to which corporate headquarters for a speaking gig, things like that. it gets complicated. >> i've heard this described as the psychological challenge of a honeymoon followed by a reality check. and that one reality check is the one that some of them will probably benefit financially more than others. some of them will emerge as bigger stars perhaps in their own chile or worldwide. they have bigger personalities. but there's also the family

issues to deal with. all of us were moved when they saw the first miner florencio avalos come to the surface and his son threw his arms around him and we saw him sobbing, so happy to see his daddy once again. but there's an adjustment on both side, isn't there, for the miners, for their families. they've gone from being in this situation and at some point some semblance of real life is going to have to return. >> well, it's true. it's very difficult for the families. because the families are now talking about their husbands and family members being reborn as they're coming out of the mine, but being reborn means that they often become different people. these families are families who have lived with and supported a miner who has a very difficult and grueling job every day going into the mine and they're used to that. and that's the world that they grew up in. and they have a very tight bond with other families who work in the same mine and in the same

business. and now all of a sudden, these men are coming out and most are going to do something else. they're not going to be miner. they may end up working for companies. they may end up being spokespeople, they may go into other jobs entirely, but i would bet that very few of them are going to go back into the mines. for the families, that's a big adjustment. because it means that their whole identity of their lives and everything they've built their lives around is going to have to change. some adapt better than others to that. >> jeff goodell who spent so much time and wrote the book on the quecreek miner, thank you very much for being with us. we're continuing to watch as the third rescue gets under way. juan illanes, married with one son, will become the third miner to get into that phoenix 2 capsule and make about a 16-minute trip to the surface and to freedom.

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we're continuing to watch as the third rescue is under way. the phoenix 2 capsule descending down into that mine where we've been watching these absolutely unbelievable pictures as the remaining 31 miners and now two of their rescuers are down there waiting to continue this process.

floor yensio avalos coming to the surface just after midnight chile time. followed by mario sepulveda, a married father of two children. practically bursting out of that capsule and shaking hands and hugging everyone in sight. now we're waiting just minutes away for the rescue of juan illanes. following all of this throughout has been kerry sanders and natalie morales. they've been on the ground all night long. kerry, i know you've got your stopwatch going, should only be a few minutes before we see that capsule down there. >> exactly. should only be a few more minutes, but were we just watching -- >> and we were just seeing the miners in their boxer shorts, i believe. all of them gearing up for their moment. >> they did lose about 20 pounds. maybe they're showing off their newly toned physiques. >> exactly. if you've got abs of steel, i

guess you can show them. >> 2 hours, 19 minutes, 4 seconds since first launch of the phoenix began. we should be seeing it arrive here shortly. you can see the light on one of the miner's helmets going up and down against the wall there. i think people are surprised at the size of the area where these men have been holed up down there. a large area, ability to drive trucks up and down, so they front end loaders and they were using that to remove some of the debris as it comes in. those drills require water, so there was a pretty heavy gush of water coming in. then they widened it to 12 inches, then they took it to 28 inches. the other attempts to drill were slightly different. the south africans did a small five-inch hole, then tried to widen it to 28. that's why it was taking longer.

then plan c, as they called it, the one that the canadians were doing, that was just 28 inches down and starting right at the beginning without a small one to a bigger one and that was another one that did not make it in terms of the race to the men. >> and you know, it's interesting, as we watch each turn of the winch here, how much is riding on that system and as i was saying to kerry earlier today, i mean, i don't think i ever quite understood engineering as i do now. this has been described as sort of a giant fishing rod -- >> there it is. >> here we go, here we go. rescue capsule, the third rescue now hopefully soon landing there getting under way. to cheers once again. >> singing the national anthem, i think. >> and chris, an interesting point here as we watch the

capsule make its descent in with one of the military medics who is arriving there as the rescuer, to soon load up juan illanes, the third miner to be rescued. and initially one of the doctors that kerry and i have both spoken with at length over the last couple of days, this is such an emotionally exhausting and mentally and physically exhausting moment, but not any of them, i can imagine, are really going to get a good night's sleep. i think they're all going to stay up over the next 48 hours as are probably we going to be staying up that length of time. but they do want to make sure that these guys do try to get some sleep in before making their way up. those who will not come out in the first group. >> post-traumatic stress disorder will present itself in many different ways. for the way the men have bonded

and then separated. by the way that their lives have had a routine and now will be completely different because of not only what they've gone through, not a single man here is going to have to buy a drink or a meal for themselves for a long time. >> no, definitely not. they will feel special. but they will also feel somewhat guilty for the process of all of this. the experts say that they'll have to deal with that. that's why the government here is not just bringing them up, taking them to get them physically checked out and saying, okay, good luck. they have some long-term plans to make sure these men get that attention that they'll need. >> we did see mario sepulveda, the second miner come out. and he, of course, had that great energy with the fist pumps and practically, as you said, chris, bursting out of that capsule. he couldn't wait for that door

to open. in fact, it seemed to hold there stuck for a little bit if place. and he just burst out of it and immediately started dropping a bag of what looks like rocks of fool's gold or whatever it is, and really kind of stole the show, i think, hugged every single person on the rescue teams tsh here we go with the cheers and the chanting. a scene that will be repeated 33 times over as they load up that capsule one by one. rescue number three soon to be getting under way. >> when you've been talking to the experts, i'll address this to both of you, is there sort of a sense that once the first couple are over with, that they're breathing a sigh of relief, that the system is working, they feel the rocks are pretty stable? or is there a sense of anxiety with each and every time it's going to go down and up again? >> the engineering experts that

i spoke to did not want to be overconfident and wanted to make sure that things would be repeated over and over again. and as much as i think they are going through their checklist. it is natural human emotion to say, it's working. and just to assume it's going to keep working. and that's where the many, many, many experts they have here get involved. because as somebody starts to relax, somebodysy saying no. this still an ongoing proves where something could go wrong. each man's life is as valuable as the last. it's a good question. i think if be see their smiles and we see the way they're doing it. but behind that there are people with checklists just like a pile-up going through everything on every one of these. >> last in, last out. everyone here is -- all of the

miners, for their part, they've also said, chris, that they wanted to stay here at the rescue site until every last one is out. and that's actually probably not going to happen because they simply can't accommodate all of the miners up there on the platform and all of their family members. so they also do have to get these very thorough medical evaluations. now you're seeing juan illanes, the third miner being loaded up into the capsule. 52 years old. married to carmen baeza. he was the first miner to actually celebrate his birthday under ground. he turned 52. and, you know, obviously, as we were saying, chris, a lot of birthdays celebrated in these last two months. a lot of births even. esperanza named after the camp here, camp hope.

and i saw the mother of the baby and ario rincona is the mother. you can only imagine what it will be like when he comes up and sees his daughter for first time. >> what happens when they all come up, they clear their medical tests, they're released, they spend sometime with their families. what happens next? aside from movie producers and authors that hwill try to get t them, they will actually meet with leonardo vargas who is a millionaire from chile, he lives in new york city, he made his money from the mine industry. he said that he'll give each of the miners 5 million pesos. >> i believe that's already been deposited into their accounts. it's reported they received some of that money.

>> and they will also go to -- they've been invited to go to greece to go to the island, to visit the island as a guest of the country in greece. they've been invited to spain, to madrid, to meet the soccer team real madrid, which is one of the most famous soccer teams in the world and maybe even get a chance to kick the ball around with them. >> they've received many soccer jerseys. in fact it was a.c. milan sent them their soccer jerseys. so the world over has been moved by these miners and what they're experiencing and from elite soccer stars to everyone, i mean, they're all feeling this moment and, you know, i think everybody kind of hopes to share a little bit of what these guys have gone through and find out more about them. really, we're watching juan illanes right now loading up into the capsule. >> i see some flashes. they're taking pictures as these guys leave. >> each one getting a send-off

from below by his miners -- the miner brotherhood. >> the way we understand it, we have a camera down there showing what's going on, but the cameras that are on the surface are sending a picture to the miners down below. so they can see their brethren make it to the surface. they had an opportunity to hear the president speak. it's a two-way communicatiocomm. they have little tvs down there to watch this. >> so we are waiting for the third miner's rescue, juan illanes. it has been an amazing night already for the last couple of hours as we have watched these rescue efforts go off without a hitch. as we've been laughing a little bit about the dress or lack thereof of the miners underground. we should remind folks that it's hot down there. it's about 90 degrees. they're going to be coming up to a very different scene, obviously. we've seen them with the

sunglasses. and it's going to take a couple of days for their eyes to adjust from where they have been for these last 70 days now, almost 70 days. temperatures, what is it there, kerry, you were saying in the 40s. maybe even dropped near freezing. pretty cold up on the surface when they get up there. >> pretty cold. >> it's cold. >> it's very cold. i think our feet are numb. wearing lots of layers. you can imagine the temperature change for them as they have to adjust. just one of the things that their bodies are going to have to do pretty much immediately once they make it to the surface. but a lot of adjustment, a lot of change and regulation -- and really their body and their biorhythms are going to have to get back to that regular rhythm. and all of that is monitored, especially on the way up, in fact. these capsules are outfitted and they're, in fact, being monitored with -- their blood

pressure's monitored, heart rate, respiration, so that they can make sure that every step of the way no one is experiencing any medical issue or anxiety, too much anxiety. there are men who do have medical conditions. some have heart conditions. one is diabetic. but all in all, the doctors who check them out said these guys are in the best shape right now. in fact, one of the miners -- >> there it goes, launch. >> here we go, liftoff. rescue number three under way. juan illanes. you know, chris, we talk about that. but as we look around us, this really is a moonscape, the desert here. interesting seeing the design of that rescue capsule. looks like a rocket ship. the very first images we saw of it it looked like there was fog or smoke around it. and it really gave you that impression that these were men,

as they step out of that capsule, taking their very first steps for their mankind here in chile. pretty impressive and amazing. >> chris, i have a question for you. did you know it would be hot down there or did you think deep down in the either it would be freezing? >> one time as a kid i went down into a salt mine. i remember it being chilly. the mind may play trick on you. going spelunking. >> i went into a mine here. i had alfredo avalos, the father of the first miner who came up, he's a miner. and he took me in 30-degree pitch going down. the deeper we went, the warmer it got. it was just -- didn't expect that. i did not expect that. because i thing as a kid i went into crystal caves and i just

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and then there were 30. the third of the 33 miners trapped underground now for almost 70 days in chile is on his way to the surface, making his way in the phoenix 2 capsule, that extraordinary

device that's been built with the help of literally hundreds of experts, just 6'4", 22 inches wide, but it will bring those miners to fresh air and freedom. someone who knows a lot about mines, mine safety, mine rescue joins us by phone now. the director of mine safety for the state of pennsylvania. thank you very much for joining us. wow, i mean, it feels as though day in and day out since the collapse of this mine we've been holding our breaths, of course, for those 17 days when we didn't know whether they were even alive. and since then when the plan has been under way, and two miners have gotten out. the third one is on his way. you don't want to take anything for granted at this point, but boy, it's pretty amazing how this is working, isn't it? >> it's almost like it's textbook. they put a very good plan together. they've had a lot of time to think about how they want to go

about things. it just demonstrates when you bring a lot of good hard working dedicated people with expertise, the willpower to get something accomplished and the technology with it, that things like this can happen. i mean, it's a true testament for everybody there, their hard work and dedication. >> can you sort of put into perspective for those of us who don't know anything about this other than what we've watched in the past, places like the quecreek mine rescue, put into perspective exactly how huge the accomplishment is. we're talking about 700,000 tons of rock that collapses. there had never been a collapse this deep. there has never been a group of people who have survive this long. how extraordinary is sort of the technical expertise that went into making this possible? >> i think it's very important so recognize, you know, the miners themselves. when that collapse occurred they

got together and they went to an area that they thought was safe and tried to maintain their existence. they did a pretty good job. the families went through hard times, so did the miners until they were located, but once they were located, then the engineers had to kick in and say, how are we going to get these miners out. they came up with the technology, some of which was used at quecreek, but quecreek was 240 feet, here we're talking 2,000 feet. a lot harder material. you have to drill on an angle versus vertical. a lot of engineering and technology that had to come into play. the use of specialized bits and so forth. just a large operation. and everybody was waiting and hoping, when they first come out and said that this might last till december, i thought that was a little bit long.

i felt that with the technology that was available, once they got things going down there, that things would move along pretty quickly. it seems like they have. >> what's your biggest concern going forward over these next however long it takes, 30, 40 hours or so? >> here's the key. you're dealing with mother nature. originally the problem was a ground failure. that's one thing you always have to worry about. you have to worry about the integrity of the bore hole that the miners are being brought up out of. evidently it seems the way things are going, things are going as planned. any time you deal with mother nature, you can get a curveball real quick. >> are you holding your breath a little bit? >> everybody is. but if it's any indication what we've seen so far, they put