good plan into play and ey've got good equipment and they're well on their way. you know, barring any equipment problems or any ground control problems with the bore hole, this relatively smooth. >> they are well on their way. joe, the mine safety director for the state of pennsylvania, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> it is now 2:00 a.m. there in copiapo, chile. and we are watching and waiting for the third of those 33 miners to be brought to the surface. good morning. i'm chris jansing here at msnbc world headquarters. the rescue is unprecedented. the eyes of the world have been fixed on the exuberant faces of the miners. still gathered there playing part in the rescue of the 33 miners. this is 70 days in the making. tonight in chile so far they're defying the odds.

>> there it goes. the colors of red, white and blue. the chilean flag. >> manuel gonzalez. >> we're hearing the people cheer here for chile, chile. >> that was how it all played out at 10:25 p.m. rescue worker manuel gonzalez entered the mine on the fenix 2. the families, the crews, the engineers and the world waiting. then the first victory. >> there it is. look at this. amazing. it is arriving as we look at it. there it is. the capsule entering. the folks are singing the

national anthem. the chilean flag. there it is. oh, my goodness. >> this is unbelievable, the feed we're seeing from chilean television. still a little bit of caution mixed in with all that. the son of florencio avalos waiting to see his dad. the first miner out for the only place he's known for the last 70 days. and this is the scene minutes later. >> there it is! bravo! success! he's made it to the surface! wow. it worked. there he is. look at that. there we go.

>> welcome back to our live coverage of the rescue of the chilean miners. i'm chris jansing. two miners as we've been telling you have been rescued. florencio avalos and mario sepulveda. who, let's say, got the crowd involved. and that big smile on the face of the president of chile. his wife, the first lady there as well. chanting chile, chile. and we are moments away from seeing the third chilean miner. joining me now, nbc's carey sanders and natalie morales. i'm just as excited, i don't know about you, as i have been the last couple of hours or so. a little bit of anxiety, a little bit of breath holding, but wow, it must have been ed

incredible to be there. carey, you and i joked over the years about being a little jealous. well, who wouldn't want to be there right now. it must be phenomenal. >> it is. i mean, it's just like it is a wow moment. it really is. because it wasn't supposed to be possible. everybody said it was impossible. impossible for these guys to be alive after 17 days. impossible to get through this rock. for them to survive. and impossible to make this fenix get down there and bring them up. and everything that was impossible, is possible. >> they've proven that over and over again now. >> we're now 14 minutes and 11 seconds into the fenix makesing it to the surface. we see the hole right there. i think we'll see it pop up any minute. the last one was up in a little more than 15 minutes, i think. they're very close to seeing our third miner make it to the surface here. 52-year-old juan illanes.

>> he is married, and celebrating -- the first miner to celebrate his birthday there underground. and this is a day no one will soon forget. this is truly a moving moment for everyone here. from the first miner who was pulled out, to the last miner who will be pulled out, perhaps hours from now, days from now. they're saying this operation could go on for 48 hours. so we're just here still in the very beginning stages. but with each one, chris, the family members have all said, they compared this to almost a birth. and they say we cannot wait. we're hours away from our loved ones being born again. it's a description that you hear from every single one of them over and over again. and that is, i believe, as every parent feels the sentiment, as they've seen, you know, with the first miner, florencio avalos

hug his 7-year-old son, and the tears he shed at that moment, i think every parent felt that, and felt as if it were their own child. imagine that separation for 70 days now. >> here we go, natalie. we're now 15 minutes 48 seconds. first lady looking on. the engineers now with their hands on that cable. checking some of the -- and here comes his wife. it looks like now 16 minutes and 4 seconds. it should be appearing any moment now. look at the emotion on her face. you know, they weren't sure that these guys were alive as much as their faith told them and their belief was that they were. and now here they are, coming to the surface. >> they never gave up hope, though. and that has been the pervasive theme here at this camp that we're in, camp hope, named after that. and from the minute that they learned of the accident, they

started forming a tent city here, which then became a family here, a community, united in this very effort to make this happen. from that very first communication on day 17, when they were able to finally get some sort of communication down to the men, and they realized they're all alive. >> yeah, imagine that. every one of these guys survived this mega block of 700,000 tons shifting under the earth. and every one of these guys survived. it's not as if they're mourning the loss of any of their brethren who died at the beginning of all of this. >> no one gave up hope here. the rescuers, thousands of rescuers, it's been a global effort. we've had rescue teams, you've been talking to the american teams involved. there was south africans, canadians, every piece of equipment here has come from some other place. the cable now being --

>> here it is. there it is. there it is. 17 minutes 36 seconds. and up, up, up -- >> illanes soon to be reunited with his wife. >> a hug with the president. okay. three down, three up. >> you can imagine a little bit of the anxiety, a lot of the wives were telling me earlier that they're anxious. they're nervous. and they know that there are going to be a lot of changes in their lives going forward from this moment. she's looking on in anticipation. and many of them said that they recognize that there's going to be a lot of stress, a lot of nerves. >> look at that smile. look at that. oh, my goodness. >> you can see tears in her eyes there. 52-year-old juan illanes.

making his way out of the fenix. his smiling wife, carmen, standing by to greet him. >> it's amazing in the body language what you see, just the excitement, the anticipation. it's almost as if they can't take it one more second. you can see how much emotion is about to burst out of them. and we were watching juan illanes' wife, there she is, just looking, and a little -- seems a little bit anxious and excited. and the smiles. >> and they look great. look what -- >> they're clean shaven. they've lost a little bit of average, on average of 17 to 20 pounds. >> probably in the best shape of their lives, some of them. >> did you see that big sigh? >> yeah. >> big sigh of relief.

>> you know she wants to get in there and hug him. but she's -- they're making sure they take everything off of him first before they get the go-ahead and say, all right, let your reunion happen here. there you go. there's the hug that they've been waiting for. >> there we go. >> i bet that never felt as good as it does right now. >> that applause is so deserved. look at that. he's excited. look at that. a hug with the president. >> there is such a bond that has formed between the miners and all of the rescue team. this has been a labor of love. and a labor -- a sacrifice for all of them. no one has really had a good night's sleep since this

happened 70 days ago. and all have been committed to seeing this very day come to fruition. >> it's interesting how a crisis, and now a triumph can unite a country. >> first the crisis, as well of the earthquake earlier this year here. 8.8 earthquake. and very catastrophic in the southern part of chile. and the president then was then elected into office as the president. and then to have this happen. and you see a lot of the men giving the president big embraces. it's been sort of a moment in his presidency that they say will be -- has truly moved the nation. >> i wonder whether he's going to spend all night out here for the 33 hours or what.

because we've sort of settled into our positions here now with -- if george wants to pull out here, we sort of settled into our positions where it's cold. and we've got some blankets -- >> a long night ahead. >> exactly. >> we're like kids at a movie right now. we're watching a movie here, chris. >> in the back of the car in new england at the drive-in theater. up next will be carlos mamane. the only bolivian. 33 miners, one bolivian. and he has made his way here for economic reasons. and in many ways, his role here unbeknownst to him has drawn two nations that at times have not gotten along particularly well, as they dispute some border land, that chile claims, and controls, and thus cuts bolivia off from the pacific ocean.

but the president, who's very far to the left, and the president pinera to the right, are in this crisis together. and president morales from bolivia is expected tomorrow to be at the hospital. so that when carlos comes up, and gets over to the hospital, the president will be able to greet him over there. >> and an interesting point here is carlos mamane, who will be the fourth miner to be brought up in the capsule, actually just started working in the mine five days before this accident. so if you can imagine that your first five days on the job, to have something like this happen. and immediately then to be part of this brotherhood, and to be bonded in this way with all of those men down there. but i don't think any of them plan to return to mining. and they certainly won't have to after this.

>> no, they shouldn't have to. >> they shouldn't have to. many of them have been offered jobs, very safe and secure. in fact, all of them have been offered jobs, whether it's outside the mining industry, or within the mining industry, but as managers of some level. but you can see some of them are -- all of the nationals celebrating going on here in the camp hope plaza. celebrating around the world. as more than 1 billion people have watched some of the coverage tonight. >> people tuning in. because, you know, the real question was, would this work. and as we see now, three down, three up. on our way to get the fourth shortly. it appears that it does work. and it's working just as they planned. at 2 hours 54 minutes and 54 seconds into it. it looks like everything is going to go just as they hoped. i'll tell you what, if i'm doing

my calculations, this is not going to take 48 hours. >> no. >> you were talking about the sort of new relationship that's been forged here, because of carlos mamani between bolivia and chile. two countries that have been at odds. and the fact that the world really is watching. and i was struck by an interview with one of the miners' wives, and i know that both of you have spent a lot of time with the families. and she talked about the struggle it was. obviously in those first 17 days, when they were praying and hoping against hope that their loved ones would still be alive. and then the anxious wait to see what would be done to rescue them. but there's a quote from the wife of one of the miners, gomez, who i think is three or four down, mario gomez, he's -- let's see, one, two, three, four, five, after carlos mamani,

got put these 33 miners together. it must be for something. perhaps to send a message to the world. i'm wondering if in your conversation with the families, and particularly these wives, you sort of got that sense, that they feel that there's some greater purpose that's going to be served for, what obviously has been a very difficult 70 days for the miners, and for their families. >> chris, in fact, i interviewed lillian, the wife of mario gomez, and she was the one who told me that very quote, as you mentioned. and she -- you know, this is an extremely religious country. and as we've talked about, the faith that has kept them all together here. and they've formed even here, the families, for the most part, have all united as the miners have united as well. and she said that is the message here. and that is the message that each of these miners is really

sharing with the world tonight. and she did say, you know, again, using her strong faith to tell her story, and her message. she's like jesus christ, sacrificed at the age of 33. she said three of the initially 36 made it out of the mine before the accident happened. why did those three make it out and why were 33 left behind. she said, those 33, she's like, that is god's way of communicating to the world, this message of unity. there's so much discord. there's so much strife in the world. and here we have an example of how unity can bring so much happiness and success, and this bond that has really become to symbolize so much more. whether you're religious or a person of faith or not, i think you could truly agree in the

moment that all of us feel that faith. and that hope. and not until number 33 is out will people rest here. this is truly a moment that has touched everyone tonight. >> it's interesting. when the american team got here, and started to drill, they got through in 33 days. they got through on what was day number 66 of this ordeal. with 33 men down below. >> the number 33 plays over and over in the theme. and it's not lost. a lot of people say that is no coincidence here. >> i think it's natural for people to want to grasp to find a meaning. and i think it's nice that the meaning that they find is that, together, they do have faith. and that this represents something more. and if it is the spark that brings bolivia and chile closer

together, isn't that a great thing. >> yeah. >> absolutely. >> you can't help but be moved by what you see here, the emotion of the moment. the love that we've seen between family members, a father for a son, in that extraordinary hug that we saw between the miner and his young son. a country for these 33 men and for their families, for the world who has been watching and hoping, and in many cases praying for their safe recovery. three of them have now been brought to the surface. they are in triage. they are being treated. they are waiting for a large reunion with their families. and the fourth rescue about to get under way. i'm chris jansing here in the studio. and of course, on scene as they have been for so many hours now. carey sanders, natalie morales. we're going to take a quick break and be back with more. you're watching the live

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take a look live at the scene. and the fourth miner, the only bolivian, here's an extraordinary story, only five days on the job. he had come from bolivia for economic reasons to get a job that paid well. was down in that mine when it collapsed. and now he will be the fourth miner to be rescued. and has really become the center of what many people see as a new era for his country, bolivia and chile, who have been in a border dispute of bringing these two countries closer together. as the world seems to be brought together with 1 billion people watching this mine rescue. welcome back to our ongoing coverage. as we wait for that fenix 2 cap sell to go down once again and for the rescue of the fourth miner after extraordinarily flawless first three rescues, i want to bring in dr. joseph, professor of psychiatry at new

york medical college. good to see you. >> thank you very much. >> my heart was pounding. i'm sure yours was. and maybe all the billion people watching worldwide. they are smiling, physically they look very well. there have been these emotional hugs with their wives, with their children, with the president of the country. that euphoria, how long can it last? >> well, it can last a long time in different forms. my guess is that there was probably a lot of cohesion in the mine itself. and camaraderie among the people there that sustained them. ne knew people were working on this project for a long time to get them out. i think they're going to do a lot better than many people think they will do psychologically. >> it's hard to imagine the first 17 days, contrasted with the time since then, when they knew that work was being done, when they were being given constant updates, they were starting to get food, they were starting to get, frankly, some

psychological help. how much do you think that was able to prepare them for what they're facing right now? >> oh, i think that sounds like they were treated very well. a lot of intelligent people were thinking about them, not only technically, but psychologically. and as was stated on the show just previously, it's a country of faith. these people are probably people of faith. and you can hear that a lot of them have said they're going to change their lives in some way after this. you know, they're negotiating with god in the way that sometimes when people have cancer, get a diagnosis of cancer. some other misfortune, a sick child or something, people negotiate with god. well, if this happens, then i'll do that, or whatever. which is actually a very positive psychological way of looking at things. one might have more control over their destiny, over their future, over things that they think they otherwise don't have control over. >> we often look at these lists of things that are life-changing, and bring so much stress onto people. always changing jobs is a big one.

and we've talked about the fact this mine is going to be closed now. it's unlikely probably that any of them, if any of them will go back to mining at all. they're going to emerge, have emerged already as these global media stars. there's going to be all this attention. how much stress does that place on a person, a life change under any circumstances is stressful. but they're looking at life change on top of life change on top of life change for their families as well. >> you bring up a very interesting point, because in the usual treatment of patients who have post-traumatic stress disorder -- >> we see the fourth time that capsule going down. i just wanted to make the point that at 1:27 our time, it's 2:27 there in chile, the fourth capsule is going down. continue, doctor. >> the usual treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder psycho therapeutically, what we try to do is get people to go

back to their usual roles, to identify themselves not only as victims, but as fathers, as brothers, as people who have hobbies, who have lives. and whatever. and the very nature of changing them, but in the same way giving them notoriety or notice for being these heroes, may in some ways prolong some of the negative aspects of post-traumatic stress disorder. the best thing actually psychologically for these people is to let them go home and be with their families and let them fade a little into anonymity. that's not going to happen. i know a lot of people think that guy's probably crazy, they're great heroes, they should have a great welcome, triumph, et cetera, which they should, and it's good. but often those type of things keep their image as victims going for those that may have a tenuous hold on things, on those who may be suffering more from post-traumatic stress disorder. >> so you would recommend sort

of the general feeling in the psychological community would be to get them sort of reassimilated into their normal lives, whatever that is going to be? because we heard, and it's wonderful how many people around the world have reached out. dprees has offered them to come and have a wonderful vacation. and we know there are a lot of soccer fans there in madrid, one of the most famous soccer teams. they've talked about going to spain. and spending time there. and everywhere they go, surely they will be rock stars. they will be superstars. that media attention will continue. is that something you think that's sort of a natural process, as natural as it can be in a situation like that? or they really do need time to sort of find their center again? >> i think we're going to find that there's some of them that are affected negatively. many of them will do better than we think. we see that many people do well despite tremendous trauma. other people don't do that well despite maybe not what appears from the outside, to be not

terribly horrible trauma. but those who are not doing well, such attention, to continuously see them as the miners that were saved, may actually prolong things like bad dreams, depression, anxiety, et cetera, even though they're very wonderful and good things. you know, to go to greece, to be welcomed by madrid or whatever. in a funny way, these things often keep the sense of victimization, and trauma, going in people. and probably the best thing overall is yes, welcome them as heroes, have a parade, let them go back to their regular lifestyles. especially for those who may be affected negatively psychologically from this. >> doctor, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >> it's good to see you. and we've been also following the coverage on chilean television. you can just imagine what that's been like as they have been doing this coverage wall to wall. they're already saying on chilean tv that there are plans to take the capsule, that fenix

going down for the fourth time, that future generations can see the capsule that made history and so galvanized that country in such a positive way. i want to go back to natalie morales and kerry sanders. it reminds me, kerry, when you talk about taking that capsule and putting it in a museum and you've talked about the fact that this looks sort of like a moonscape, when you held up your little rock, i remember the first time as a little girl going to the smithsonian on a class trip and seeing the moon rock in that capsule at the smithsonian museum. but this really is an extraordinary and historic moment, kerry. hold on to that moon rock. >> yeah, he's got that. >> i'm keeping it. i am definitely keeping it. it's one of the rocks that was taken out of the crush -- i have another piece, i'm not sure

where it is, that you can see the smooth portion of the bore when they went down in the first hole that was five inches. so it's -- >> a good souvenir. when i was here two weeks ago, i picked up a bunch of rocks like that. and thought there was actual gold in it. but i guess fool's gold. but you know what? chris, you know, this is exactly what these guys are going in there for, but for the real thing. >> exactly. >> when we saw mario sepulveda, he dropped a bag on the ground and began giving out rocks just like this. it was a moment that really captured the nation here. because they all know how much this rock means to the country. it's not just a way of life for these men, a very good way of life, but in fact the primary industry here in chile. and chile actually a lot of people don't know this, it's one of the, i believe the third or fourth wealthiest south american, latin-south american

countries. >> it's funny, where we are in the desert, you wouldn't come here but for the mining. >> no. >> there is very little that would draw you here. in fact, i think it's the lonely planet guide book talking about the copiapo area. if you're a tourist, there's no reason to come here. >> the one reason to come here, on my way here, some of the people that were on the plane with me coming from santiago, said they were here to see the desert bloom, because about one every ten years or so, every once in a while they get a beautiful purple flower bloom here in the desert. just when there is some rain. and interestingly, right before coming, i saw all the purple flowers. and here there's a different kind of blooming happening today. >> exactly. life is blooming. >> life is blooming here. and a rebirth, as so many people have described it over and over again of their loved ones, as

they make their way up. now, we are on fairly soon, which will be rescue number four. that will be the bolivian coming up, carlos mymani. and i believe the rescue capsule is already on its way down with the fourth rescuer in tow inside. and then carlos mamani will be coming up. >> a short distance from where i am, they have been here. and every night, sitting out here with a small fire, staying warm. i talked to one of the mamani family members, a couple hours ago, live on tv, and just asked him about, you know, the differences between their countries. and he said there are no differences tonight. we are together in this. and this has brought us

together. the family has been included in so much of everything here. there have been no outsiders, as it were. and sitting in those fires every night, out in this very, very cold desert, as you can see we've got the sleeping bags out. >> the sleeping bags are around us. >> and enduring with all the faith that they have, that this was going to be successful through this process. >> it's truly a testament to the faith that these families have had, that from day one, august 5th, many of them started setting up camp here, putting up their tents. what became one family, then became 33 families here, all united in this. and it was truly amazing. when i was out here two weeks ago, kerry, it was a different scene. it was more family than anything. and now it's, you know, the media really here now outnumbering the family members. and encroaching a lot, i feel, on what is their turf.

and what has become a home for them. a home away from home. >> let's just describe a little bit where we are. this is a desert. but in this desert, there are now tents and winnebagos, and a street. and garbage collection and port-a-lets and a manager of the city down there that had been appointed to make sure things run smoothly. there is everything built here -- >> food service for the families. >> food service. they've shared with us. they've had barbecues here. in many ways, this is now a functioning little town that will break down very soon. >> although i imagine it will still be a tourist attraction down the road. >> yes, it's a tough flight to get here and a long drive, but, you know, i suspect that chileans will want to make their way here to see this. >> yes. >> and we are waiting for the opportunity to do it.

we're waiting for the fourth capsule to go down. i think it's worth reminding folks exactly what it's like in there. it's obviously a small space, an enclosed space. i think, kerry, what is it, 6'4" high, 22 inches wide? >> well, i was told it was 26 inches wide. >> 26 inches wide. >> kind of like you're getting into an airline seat on a really cheap airline. you're not real happy with how tight that is there. and you're standing. and as you see, they seem to have a little bit of room for their arms, but not a whole lot. and then they're heading up with just a little bit of a dim light over their head as they come up. so it's not completely dark. >> and every step of the way, every inch, every foot as it makes its acsension, they're being monitored, all their vital signs are taken at every point,

so they know when they arrive there at the surface, what condition to expect them in. and as you see with mario sepulveda, the smiles, he was miner number two who made it out of the mine shaft, he just bounded out of that capsule. there was no containing him. and when he had to lay down on the -- there on the, i guess the stretcher, he looked like you couldn't hold him down. he was still pretty much upright. and did not want to be taken away. but truly, one of the moments here, i think, that made so many people smile and laugh out loud. >> of course, i'm just curious, obviously we're down here, we're wrapped up in the moment. we are with the chilean people, with the bolivians now waiting for carlos to come up, what is the sense that you're getting across the nation? i understand that people had been gathering outside of the chilean embassy in washington.

you say that there's 1 billion people around the world watching. people are all drawn to this. is that what you're telling me? even across our country? >> without a doubt. people standing outside in times square, watching it on a big jumbotron. i think that people really have stopped and watched it. it's been amazing at the number of people who have been asking me about this. and asking me about the coverage. and i think in our newsroom, where we see a lot of things, and we follow news obviously every day, day in and day out, there aren't a lot of things anymore that make us all stop and be quiet and watch and listen. we're going about the business of our daily lives. but this is surely one of them. call it what you will, call it a feat of modern engineering, call it a miracle, but it is an extraordinary happy moment for the people of chile, for the people around the world who are watching, that the 33 men who

have survived, now for 70 days, half a mile underground, the extraordinary feat truly of engineering that it took to start bringing them up, that all of it is successful. and so far it seems to be running perfectly according to plan. kerry and natalie are going to stay with us, as we wait for that fourth capsule to desend down into that mind space. just before the first miner was brought to the surface, the president of chile saying, alongside the families of the three trapped miners, of the 33 trapped miners, we'll have more after a break. ♪

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three rescues completed, another one under way right now. there was a dramatic scene as the first rescuer descended into the mine more than 2,000 feet below the surface. and then tears. as the first miner, francisco

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there is no reality tv show better than this. that is the fenix capsule for the fourth time it has descended down into the chilean mine to bring up yet another of the trapped 33 chilean miners. the fourth so far. an actual life-and-death drama being played out before the world. truly an extraordinary story, of hope, of survival, of celebration. and we are all watching it unfold live thanks to chilean television. and as we've been watching and monitoring chilean television, they've been talking about the united states. they've been saying that they're aware of the fact that there are people outside the chilean embassy. they say they are grateful for the prayer chains they have heard about in miami.

and they are grateful overall that many of the countries that have large mining populations like the u.s., like canada, like england, have been watching and holding their breaths to see how this rescue goes. and so far, it has been just about picture-perfect. and with a bird's-eye view is nbc's kerry sanders and natalie morales. and we're watching underground. this is the last of actual rescuers that will go down, is that right, kerry? >> exactly. it's the last of the rescuers who will go down. now we see the fenix is there. carlos mamani will enter into the capsule and go up. he's from bolivia. he had only been mining here for five days when this accident happened. when this crisis began. and his family is now waiting at the surface here for him to come up. and it looks like -- we were just doing a calculation,

natalie and i, it looks like they're on schedule for about one an hour. it's running as clockwork. so if they can keep this pace up, it will be 30 hours to go. >> that's right. and chris, the interesting point about carlos mamani is he came here from bolivia to have a better life, to try to really make a good living for his family. as so many of these miners are able to make a good living in the mining industry. and to only be on the job five days and to have something like this happen. but then to have this incredible moment, and this pact that has formed between you and all of those miners who were there with him, his new brothers, his new family. and his new country here. chile has really embraced him in this moment. and everyone here, they've said their prayers for carlos mamani,

and for every single one of these miners in the same way. there is no distinction here between bolivian or chilean at this point. >> right. they're all miners in that brotherhood. the president of bolivia, evo morales, is expected to be here tomorrow, to go to the hospital to meet with carlos. and to embrace him. and, you know, the president can probably use a little good pr after he was captured on the soccer field, kneeing a competitor in the groin. so this will give him a chance to have some good news around -- >> good pr. >> exactly. >> you'll be surprised to hear we played that video a few times of that knee action. >> you know, i'm struck by, you know, you can see natalie and i

are just thrilled by having the opportunity to see this, as yet another one launches -- there we go. >> to cheers here in camp hope, every time the capsule lifts off there, very much like a robert ship. it goes with cheers. and in the mine as well, with a sendoff from their brothers in the mine. >> is that our picture, or is that having problems getting started there? it may be our picture. because it looks like the cable is running there. no, i don't know. there's a frozen picture from down below. there we go. it's running. anyway, we're sitting here smiling and really taking in this moment. i got a e-mail from a cameraman in burbank and he said, your cheeks are going to be sore if you don't stop smiling. >> i'll be surprised if you have a voice later on today. >> yeah. >> it's been incredible, chris, to really experience this. >> you both have been -- i don't know, i guess you're running on

adrenaline and excitement and the thrill of seeing how all of this is working. but i'm just imagining what it's like right now inside that capsule. you know, he's basically so young, carlos mamani. he was a farm worker back in bolivia. he's only 24 years old. he's got three kids already. and not only just five days down in the mine, but then he's going to be greeted, you know, as you said, the president of bolivia is going to be coming in to spend some time with him. and just the shock of everything that's gone on, not to mention the fact that there has to be some concern just about simple things, like sleep patterns. i was thinking as i was watching the two of you, how you'll ever get back into a routine. but imagine no day and night down inside that mine. and just trying to get back into a normal routine. >> but they did try to establish

some sort of order. and they broke the men into groups of 11, three groups of 11. and they had them working, they had them resting. they had them exercising. and they did everything they could to establish the sense of a routine, so that much the way people who live so far north and the sun never sets, have to go to bed at 2:00 in the morning while the sun's still up. i have a feeling, chris, you were in one of those regions not too long ago. that they were working down here to make sure that there was a rhythm to their life. >> the key to their survival, really, is keeping to some sort of routine. and they have been flooding that area where they were confined for the last 70 days now with light, to try to have some day and night pattern, to really establish that. because it's so important. and clearly, chris, one of the

biggest issues that these men face are the psychological issues, the emotional issues, and what they went through. and allowing them to have that sort of pattern, and way of sort of keeping up with everyday life as much as it could be somewhat normal for them. they tried to make sure that would happen. that's really to the credit, as well, of the team here above ground, that really put in place all of the proper methods and routines for them to be able to stick with that. >> at the end of the day, this is a very first world country. it is highly organized. folks here in chile are learned. they have the experts. and then they use the knowledge that they have, and they deploy it throughout this rescue effort, and everything going on. we're now 3 hours 36 minutes and 57 seconds into the rescue. carlos is the next one up.

and we've been going since around 4:30 this morning. unsure -- >> we're keeping our vigil as are everyone for the most part here who are engaged in the coverage. but around the world. i think there's a world vigil taking place. >> are we seeing it arrive? i think so. there it is. fenix 2 coming up to the surface. there we go. >> no, this is earlier video of juan illanes, the third miner rescued. as we see the feeds here. the replays. but carlos mamani, it should take about another ten minutes or so. they're now more than 3 hours and 37 minutes into this rescue operation. and chris, if all goes according to plan, about one per hour now. and we expect them to be able to continue with that. everything has gone without a hitch. just a perfect rescue operation. incredible. and historic night.

nothing like this has ever been done before. no man has ever survived underground this length of time. now 70 days into truly an incredible feat. all are heroes, not just the 33. but this nation, and all of those around the world who really were involved in making sure that there would be the successful ending. and very happy ending. >> so carlos comes up, and we assume eventually goes back to bolivia. and while there are 33 people who will be rescued, if all goes according to plan, and 32 of them are chilean, carlos is going to be known by every single person in bolivia, because he represents their country. and boy, that's going to be a lot to carry the banner at 23 years old throughout the nation that he returns to. >> lives forever changed here, chris. they are instant celebrities,

international heroes. and the world watching and waiting, for every last one to come out. >> so if this is going to be a movie, what are they going to call it, chris, the 33? >> i like that. i like that. or milagro perhaps. i know we'll have to let you at some point -- >> the miracle. >> -- maybe get a little bit of a nap. or stretch your legs or get something to eat. but i'm just wondering, as we head to the top of the hour, and obviously for all of us, that moment when florencio avalos first emerged, brought so many people, a wave of emotion, perhaps to tears. but is there one moment, i would ask you both briefly, whether it's today, or in the course of your coverage of this story, that you think you'll carry with you for a very long time? natalie? >> chris, i'd