chilean miner recovery. the jimmy sanchez being brought up into freedom. after being buried alive for 70 days, almost half a mile underground, have you to know there must are been times, especially in the initial 17 before there was contact made

when they wondered whether or not this moment would ever come. but it has been extraordinary. it has been joyous. right now as we said, the fifth miner being brought to the surface. interesting things are emerging about these miners. for example, there are endorsements waiting for them. i'm beating a few will go to mario accesepulveda, the second miner that came out and was really playing to the product. they're being asked to endorse beer, vitamins, a sex aid product, they've been offered $20,000 for the first interview, which is more than any of them makes working in the mine. . according to the daily telegraph in london, they have agreed that they're not going to talk about what exactly went on during those first 17 days. we'll see how much actually emerges from that period of

time. they've also apparently called in a lawyer. they've drawn up a contract. they all want to profit equally from their story. what an amazing story it is. never before have miners been trapped this long and rescued. never before has there been a rescue this deep into the earth. this was the scene within the hour as the fourth miner, carlos mamani, who was the one bolivian, surfaced to friends and family. another wonderful moment. an emotional night at what has been dubbed camp hope. 33 miners being rescued what is now into the 70th day. welcome back once again. i'm chris jansing reporting live from msnbc world headquarters in new york. thomas roberts is here with me as well. i don't know how you're feeling about this, but it has been really a privilege to watch this all unfold because it is so wonderful to see a story that is so full of hope and so full of

joy. and it's being shared around the world, which is something we don't do that often anymore. >> you're absolutely right. especially for all of us who have been covering this story since the beginning of august and then the international efforts that went into see that these men were going to be safely returned to the surface. as you said, it really has turned into an international, i don't want to say obsession, but we all have a vested interest in seeing these men come out alive and come out healthy because we've learned so many of their stories. let's take a look back at the highlights of what we've been watching over the last four hours. >> reporter: 33 chilean miners trapped for 69 days. >> there it is! bravo, success. he's made it to the surface. >> reporter: finally the first miner, florencio avalos, reaches the surface and straight into the loving arms of his family. with that the parade of miners to the top was on.

mario sepulveda was the second to safely emerge, handing out rocks to chile's president and channelling the crowd's adrenaline rush. with made for tv characters emergin emerging, more than 1700 journalists and camera crews at camp hope are ready to capture the dramatic action 33 times over. >> made for tv characters, as we all continue to watch around the globe this evening. chris, jimmy sanchez, as we've been saying, is he going to be the fifth miner that's going to come up. just 19 years old. i know you read part of a family letter to a family member named rocks roxanne. he said, god wanted me to stay here, i don't know, maybe so i can change from now on. i have suffered too much and don't want to suffer anymore. in the hard moment i was thankful of god because i got a

daughter. i expect when my turn arrives, everything will be okay. hugs for everyone. you have to think these guys have had a lot to think about their lives, and at 19 years old for him to have such an interspeculative moment and think about what's going to happen to him and his young daughter when he gets back to the surface, is probably the same thing that's happened to those 33 men that have been underground now for 70 days. it's absolutely amazing. as you were saying earlier, no one has survived this long in a mine disaster like this. i know we had the pennsylvania nine we talked about earlier. but for this duration, for the type of atmosphere they had to survive in under there. as we pointed out earlier, that for 17 days they didn't know that this disaster had taken place and the men were living on the rations of just small bite of tuna fish as well as peaches. it's amazing to see we've gotten to this day. it really is emotional for everybody involved. >> you can imagine what it was like for them underground there.

the family bonds that were forged there. and what it was like for the families above ground. now, i don't know if jimmy sanchez's little girl is going to be there. he's just 19. she surely doesn't understand everything that's been going on, but a little girl knows her daddy has not been around. we saw it in the eyes of the little boy, the 7-year-old, florencio avalos's little boy, in the hugs that they had. and jimmy sanchez's mom, who has talked about what it's going to be like she thinks. she said part of her wants to take him away to a quiet place and let him assimilate everything that has happened so far. let him have the rest that is probably escaped him. let him get back into some sort of normal routine. having said that, mom has also planned a party for him and invited 500 people. so, i think that homecoming party is going to be really something that we'll see play

out 33 times across that little mining town in the desert of chile that's been described as a moonscape. but, 19 years old, planning to go back to school. you wonder if he'll go back to school, if he'll reassess what his life plans are, and how, frankly, some of this success and some of the money will change the lives, thomas, for these folks who have known a very day-to-day kind of existence. where they knew what they were going to do when they got up every morning. they had their routine. to say that has all been thrown into chaos, i think, is not an overstatement. because what's about to face them, the international spotlight is something few of us can imagine. >> the options they have before them with endorsement deals w media interviews, with the different things that never would are come their way if this tragedy hadn't come into their lives. is something that hopefully they

will take the time to process and then heartfully and thoughtfully go after. i think for these guys coming up, the moments they'll have with their family are going to be cherished. hopefully they'll get the attention they need from the medical officials on site, the family members on site and take a minute to process all the attention. i know they have, as natalie morales and kerry sanders reported to us earlier, they have received a little information and some media training about what was going to happen to them one they got back to the surface, and as well have been probably told about the international attention placed on them. there are over 1700 journalist and camera crews from around the world that are there. over 1 billion people are watching this, as we speak and have a vested interest in making sure these guys come out okay. it's not that often we get to report on a story like this where we have the good news. we continue to hope we say it's good news for all 33 that come

up. systematically they're going through the same checks and balances as this operation unfolds that they did for the first one because the first life is just as valuable for the last life so they want to make sure they are doing everything with the extraction system. they're doing it painstakingly slowly but painstakingly properly. >> it is about 16 minutes to the surface each time they bring the capsule up. and obviously it's a little time to get the miner out of the capsule, to show the reunion. for the first four times they sent down rescuers, medical experts, who went down to assess the situation. but those four are now down. so once jimmy sanchez comes out, that capsule will be going down empty. the descent has been taking about 20 minutes, about an hour from start to finish is what we've been seeing so far. now, this has all been so carefully planned and watched so closely by people around the

world who have been impressed by how slowly and carefully and painstakingly they approached this to make sure everything went right. and i would say, it's not just so far, so good. it's really been so far, so great. because it has been flawless. as we look at jimmy sanchez's dad. you know he is waiting for this moment, and the applause has begun. jimmy sanchez, just 19 years old. finally being brought to the surface in that fenix capsule. what's dad shouting to him? the chilean television has been saying that sanchez is more anxious than the others, perhaps because he's younger. he has not spent as much time in the mines as others.

but he's made his way to the surface. and look at the smile on the face of his dad. and it does take him a few minutes to unhook the capsule and take off all of the monitors that are on them. waving a flag. as well as all of this has gone, we should make the point that one of the things they said is that they were waiting for all 33 of them to come to the surface and they would have a joint news conference but already mario sepulveda has held a news conference. so, we're getting a sense of the excitement. it's almost as if they can't wait to share their excitement with the world. there is jimmy sanchez, just 19

years old. finally above ground after these long 70 days. and stepping out of all of the equipment that had him inside that capsule and going to be reunited with his dad. and sandra lily, who has been watching the chilean tv coverage, if he was as anxious as they said he was, he's certainly not showing it now. >> exactly. they started saying that as he was ascending, they were saying perhaps of his youth, perhaps because he wasn't used in the mine so much, he had a little anxiety. took him longer to get in the capsule. but all's well that end well. he has a 4-month-old baby.

>> oh, that's right. he's the one whose child was born. >> exactly. >> unbelievable. that will be quite a reunion when that happens. >> he's 19. he asked the mother of the baby for the hand in marriage, but the father said, maybe not yet, so it's -- they're going in step. >> her father said not yet. >> yes, yes. >> he's going to have to reassess jimmy sanchez and see what his future prospects might be. this is routine that we've seen with the fifth of the 33 miners where they put them on the stretcher and take them back into the triage center where they are going to be assessed for the basics. they'll check their blood pressures, do a heart monitor. that's the other thing we've been seeing is the thumbs up. i can't imagine that the chilean broadcasters are not just so excited. >> oh, they're over the moon. and like we've said before, they really are alternating between this incredible pride at how

flawlessly everything has gone and the humility of so many people watching, a billion people watching, countries all over, 36 countries at least. so, yeah, it's an incredible moment for zethem. >> there you saw his dad hugging some of the workers. so many of them who have been there tirelessly day in and day out. you know, it's very exciting now. but there's been a lot of rough work in the days in between when the mine first collapsed and there was a lot of attention, to these last few days when they knew there was going to be a rescue. and this really has been an effort, that although they have watched it very closely in chile, has been unrelenting and very stressful for them. >> exactly. one thing they were stressing on chilean tv is one of the reasons only three family members will be with them is because they're afraid of that letdown. you go from this euphoria to what could be depression due to so many physical factors, the

darkness, the fact they haven't eaten well, they haven't slept well. so, they apparently each chose three family members that will be with them for these initial days, which i'm sure was not easy to chose. >> apparently there was a little family tention in some of the miners' families, which you can understand. as i mentioned, in jimmy sanc z sanchez's case, mom is planning a party for 500 so he'll see plenty of people soon. i'm guessing there are a lot of moms and wives out there who are planning the favorite meal for their return. they've probably already put in their requests. >> you know, what puts it in perspective is cease on youhe's. he basically is a kid. he's looking forward to the music and the dancing and parties. >> who can blame him for that? thank you so much. i'll let you go back to listening. i know you'll keep checking in with us and let us be updated on what they're telling us from chilean tv. such a fascinating perspective.

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4:19 in chile. and an inspection is going on of

the capsule after they have successfully brought up florencio avalos, mario sepulveda, juan illanes, now jimmy sanchez, five of the 33 trapped miners more than 2,000 feet underground now safely back on the surface. and they're going to get that capsule inspected and in shape before they bring it down for miner number six, osman arrayar. what we've watched unfold, kind of a immediameeting of technolo faith, all of those things coming together in this successful rescue. 70 days after that mine collapsed. a little earlier i was on the air with kerry sanders and natalie morales who have been there for many of the days and weeks leading up to this

remarkable achievement. this was a little bit of what happened and their conversation after the rescue of the first miner going into the rescue of the second miner, mario sepulveda. take a look. >> we saw mario sepulveda, the second miner come out, he dropped the bag on the ground and started giving out rocks just like this. it was a moment that really captured the nation here because they all know how much this rock means to the country. it's not just a way of life for these men, and a very good way of life, but it is the primary industry here in chile. chile, actually a lot of people don't know this, it's one of the -- i believe, the third or fourth wealthiest latin south american countries. >> it's funny. where we are in the desert, you wouldn't come here but for the mining. there is very little that would draw you here. in fact, i think it's the lonely

planet guide book talking about the copiapo guide book saying, there's no reason to come here. >> the one reason to come here -- on my way here, some people on the plane here coming from santiago said they were here to see the desert bloom because about one every ten years or so, every once in a while they get a beautiful purple flower bloom here in the desert, just when there is some rain. interestingly, right before coming, i saw all the purple flowers. here there's a different kind of blooming happening today. >> exactly. life is blooming. >> life is blooming here. and a rebirth as so many people have described it over and over again of their loved ones as they make their way up. it's truly a testament to the faith that these families have had that from day one, august 5 th, many of them started is

setting up camp here, putting up their tents, what became one family, then became 33 families here, all united in this. and it was truly amazing. when i was out here two weeks ago, kerry, it was a different scene. it was more family than anything. and now it's, you know, the media really here outnumbering the family members and encoaching a lot, i feel, on what is their turf and what has become a home for them, a home away from home. >> let's describe a little about where we are, because this is -- it is a desert, but in this desert, there are now tents and winnebagos and a street and garbage collection and portalets and a manager of the city down there to make sure things run smoothly. there's everything -- >> food service for the family. >> food service they've shared

with us. they've had barbecues here. in many ways, this is now a functioning little town that will break down very soon. >> although, i imagine it will still be a tourist attraction down the road. >> yes. it's a tough flight to get here and a long drive, but, you know, i suspect chileans will want to make their way here to see this. >> i'm glad we had this opportunity to do it, though. >> i think it's worth reminding folks exactly what it's like in there. it's obviously a small space, an enclosed space, i think. kerry, what is it, 6'4" high, 22 inches wide? >> well, i was told it was 26 inches wide. >> 26 inches wide. >> kind of like you're getting into an airline seat on a really cheap airplane, so you're not real happy with how tight that is there. you're standing. as you see, they seem to have a little bit of room for their arms, but not a whole lot.

and then they're heading up with just a little bit of a dim light over their head as they come up. so, it's not completely dark. >> and every step of the way, every inch, every foot as it makes its ascension, these miners are being monitored, their blood pressure, all their vital signs are being taken at every point so that they know when they arrive there at the surface what condition to expect them in. as you see with mario sepulveda, with the smiles, miner number two who made it out of the mine shaft, he just bounded out of that capsule. there was no containing him. and when he had to lay down on the -- there on the -- >> stretcher. >> -- i guess the stretcher, he looked like -- you know, you couldn't hold him down. he was pretty much upright and didn't want to be taken away. truly one of the moments here that i think made so many people smile and laugh out loud.

>> it did, indeed, natalie morales and kerry sanders from a little while ago, continuing their extraordinary coverage of this extraordinary night that continues to unfold. we are waiting -- they're doing a little technical work on the capsule. we don't think this is anything that's wrong with it. it was sort of planned maintenance, they're taking the wheels off and putting new wheels on and just checking to make sure everything is in place as it makes the descent, the sixth time very shortly. we expect to see that capsule going down for osman araya. he has an interesting story. we'll tell about you that. we'll go back to our mining expert whose dad actually invented the capsule. a lot of coverage ahead. ♪

here's a name i want to put in your head now, osman araya. he'll be the sixth person to be rescued from this mine. he has a great story. he's 30 years old. he just began working four months ago as a temp. when you think about temps going down into a mine it's not something you typically think

about. he had just been there a short period of time. the "daily telegraph" is reporting his full-time job up until this was that he was a pigeon handler. this is not a life a lot of us back in the state can relate to, but what we can relate to is a loved one who has been in a life and death situation and the anxiety and the excitement that they must be feeling as he is about to be brought to the surface. he does have two children. in his message to his mom and his wife, he said, i will never leave you. i will fight to the end to be with you. now, take a look at what's going on right now at the surface. they've actually replaced the wheels that have gone up and down that mine shaft now five times. actually, there were a few tests even before that. and just checking to make sure everything is okay, everything is in place. i want to bring in via skype homer hickam.

not only is he a mining expert but his dad was the guy who actually first invented the original version of this capsule, this rescue capsule, back in 1951. i don't know if you've been able to watch or see what they're doing, but chilean tv, homer, suggests this is just sort of standard maintenance. they're just checking everything out after those first successful trips. >> yeah. i'm really, really impressed. routine maintenance on this brand new capsule. it's only been used four -- six times, up and down this hole. this shows the planning, the thinking ahead, the laying out of the sequence of events that have to occur in order to keep this tube going up and down and bringing all these miners out. so, i mean, my hat is off to the chilean authorities and the engineers and the managers that have put all this together. clearly it does show a great

deal of expertise and care for these miners. again, they have taken their time. they are not rushing. that capsule has been rushing just fine. another manager, another team might have said, well, let's keep going, it's working fine. but their plan told them, stop, let's lubricate the wheel, change out the we'll, aheel, go. i'm very impressed. >> those wheels are very different from -- they didn't exist, right, on the first one your dad invented? >> no. my dad actually had steel casement go all the way down 700 feet. so, he had that as an advantage. now, that casement was smooth. in this case they're going down through rock. as the capsule and the wheels hit upon the rock and move past the rock, there's a grinding going on, it's being knocked loose. even if they didn't replace the wheels they wanted to make sure

they didn't get any grit in the axles or anything that might hang them up in any way. again, this just shows the really fine planning and the care that the rescuers are taking. they're not being pushed by anybody. with nasa, we have to call it getting launch fever. you just pushed ahead because it was time to go. let's go fly. well, these guys are -- they don't have launch fever or anything like it. they are being very careful. again, my hat is off to them. i'm very, very impressed with what i've seeing tonight. >> tell us a little bit about mining families because we mentioned that you come from a mining family. your dad was a miner. you were a miner. you wrote a book. it became a movie "october sky" about miners and what you imagine these last 70 days have been like for these families. we know obviously the men underground have bonded but we've also learned that they've really gotten -- the families up on top have gotten

extraordinarily close. i'm sure that doesn't surprise you. >> no. that's typically what happens. and even when there's not a disaster like this, mining families have so much in common, generally, they're going to live within a mile or two of the mine. often it's the company that builds the houses these miners and their families live in. so everything they do centers around the mine. and that's constant gossip of the day, about what this miner is doing, what that foreman is doing and so forth. and so, no matter what, a very solid proud, tough, solid community forms. these miners and typically the miner families have a number of philosophies that keep them going through the day without fear. if you stop to think about it, every miner -- or mining family should always be afraid because every day they see their man go off to the mine. they're not sure they're going to see them at the end of the day. yet, you always find them pretty

tough and resilient. what are they doing? what are they thinking? how are they avoiding this fear? there's four things they do. typically, miners and mining families are proud of who they are. they know what they do is important. it's important to their country generally to go and get this

material that's needed. they stand up for what they believe. generally you don't find coal miners or any kind of miners be reticent. they'll tell you what they think. the third one is probably the most important. miners tend to keep their families together. the family is their strength. no matter what happens, they know their family's going to with them, is going to be behind them and take care of them. them and take care of them. the last one is also very strong and not afraid. >> we have all been so impressed by their faith, by their resilience. it is really what has captivated the world as we continue to watch this rescue. homer, i know you're going to stay with us. your information has been invaluable. but, again, i said at the top of this little block that the name is osman araya. richard louie, my colleague here will tell us a little more about the guy who's about to come up in that capsule. we hope within the next hour, richard. >> as we watch what's happening there in copiapo, we are waiting

for the next miner to come up. we've been looking into what he has done in the past. you had mentioned he was a temp worker. boy, what an experience he has had over the last 70 days, right? he has two children. and this was a message in a video message he told his wife and his baby daughter brittany, and i quote here, he says, i will fight to the end to be with you. he went on to say, i'm sending my greetings to angelica, i love you so much, my darling, as his voice was choking in this video message. he went on to say, quote, tell my mother i love you guys so much. i'll never leave you. i will fight to the end to with you. that's osman araya next up.

the daily telegraph said he was a carrier pigeon handler. he had gone to copiapo to do this. there is a sport with carrier pigeons. also heard that he has a serious dental problem. he was fed only warm pureed food. he's in a lot of pain. we can all remember when we've had a bad dental issue. that's what his situation is. we also understand they were fed food to keep their weight down, so that might have worked to that as well. talking about god, as homer was talking about previously, there was the previous miner, jimmy sanchez in his letter to his family he talked about god many times. quickly, god wanted me to stay here, i don't know, so maybe i change from now on. he was thankful to god because he has a daughter. it's certainly in life with what

homer hickam was saying earlier. >> thanks so much, richard. you mentioned he was having some dental pain. he know there are a number of miners that have been having problems with their dentistry, skin problems. not surprising given what's down in the mine and the fact that it's very damp down there. we know there probably have been some sorts of fungal infections. those are the things they'll be checking for. the next nine miners or so are those that have had some medical problems. none of them terribly serious, they don't think, but of course, they've been checking on them. they have the medical workers who were brought down in the first four capsules, who were sending up information with what they've been able to discern about what exactly the physical conditions are so they can be prepared for every eventuality as they are taken directly into triage. they are making those final repairs so that finally osmon araya can come to the surface and obviously get treatment for

some of the things that have been bothering him. i'm guessing we'll see a very happy scene there as well as that young man is brought to a reyo reunion with his wife and young children. we'll take a quick break. five of the 33 chilean miners brought to surface already. cheers, singing, chanting. it is a remarkable scene and we're watching it all with you on msnbc. jooishgsz or does frizz make you start all over? get ready for a revolution. the new pantene. frizzy to smooth system. medium to thick hair absorbs up to 40% more moisture. so we customized a pro-v system that in test, outlasts the frizz point. the results? smooth stays into the second day. put it to the test. frizzy to smooth from new pantene. healthy makes it happen. the pantene re-invention is here. introducing the new pantene custom solutions.

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that was just a little earlier, the third of the five miners rescued so far, juan illanes, 52 years old. he turned 52 while he was down in the mine. there were birthdays and anniversaries that were missed. even the birth of a child. an engagement that was made. but truly what an extraordinary day for all of these families

and, of course, for the miners who have been so far underground nearly half a mile for these past 70 days. we've seen a little bit of routine maintenance. it looks like they're getting ready to put that capsule back down for yet a sixth time. for the latest rescue, following all of this for us has been sandra lily, watching chilean television. one of the things i was talking about, because a lot was made of the fact that they all wanted to be last. they're such great guys. they had all come together so closely, when they were trying to figure out who was going to go first, in what order, they were saying, let the other guys go. as the first five are going up, are they saying, i wish i was one of those? you were saying that the actual mining minister was meeting with the families, all the families who aren't going to come for quite a while, maybe another day, right? >> that's correct. the mining minister was speaking to families of 26 and 27. i was really struck. i mean, they were laughing. they were, you know, yakking it

up. it seemed incredible they have that patience and sense of humor. one of the women said, well, it's a luckier number that we're getting it the next day. they seem to be in very good spirits. >> they're holding up well. >> absolutely. >> that's good to know. the other thing we were laughing about is the second miner, mario sepulveda. he's already emerging as a superstar. he came flying out of that capsule. he's handing out rocks. he had his bag of rocks with him from down below. he was leading the chile, chile chant. >> absolutely. hi gone into the main newspaper from spain and there was a big headline, the mario show, so he's definitely stealing the spotlight. he's definitely getting world recognition for his antics. >> the other one is carlos mamani. he is the bolivian, the only non-chili k non-chilean there. he came over for economic reasons. am i right, he's the one who

gets his own hospital room? >> that's correct. the helicopter was taken the first four miners, and mamani will be the only one that has his own room but his president will get there in a couple of hours and have a meeting with him. they had said earlier on the chilean television, they will be very respectful if a family wants to go back to bolivia. they will make it much better. but if for economic reasons they've been in chile for a few years. if they want to stay, they'll have them stay. it's their decision. >> look at that capsule. they're putting it back in the tube and about to start the descent for the sixth rescue. the first one at about 11:10 p.m. we're now at 3:47 east coast time, 4:47, so, they're getting into the early predawn hours there in chile. osmon araya at the bottom of that tube and waiting to be rescued after 70 days down in that mine. we'll continue to watch it.

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the reunion of a father and son, 19-year-old jimmy sanchez, who became the fifth miner to be brought to the surface. and what a celebration that was. coming after the others that began with florencio avalos. we are getting the first

reaction from family members. this is from alonso avalos, after his son became the first miner to be rescued. he says, i'm so overcome with emotion, as if i've been touched by god. my boy is finally safe. my boy is finally safe. it has been an extraordinary night for all of us who have been able to watch this unfold. and certainly for the miners and their families after 70 anxious days. i want to bring in again dr. joseph deltito, a professor of psychiatry at new york medical college. we've talked about the challenges facing these miners. what an emotional roller coaster facing them families. the 17 days they didn't know if they were dead or alive. this long period in between, would they have to wait until christmas, how long might it take, the difficulty of this

rescue, something never attempted before. what kinds of things are they facing, doctor? >> well, you've got to remember, there's still a lot of people down in the ground. until that last person is out of the ground, there's going to be tremendous apprehension. not only on the direct families, but as mr. hickam had said previously, these mining communities are like a family unto themselves. people, i'm sure, everyone knows everyone, everybody knows everybody's intibusiness, the interrelationships, and there will be suffering on everybody's part, apprehension, until the last man is out, even if their own sons, brothers, whatever, are brought out. of course, they've been dealing with the spectre of death. when they get the last man out, they'll breathe a sigh of relief, i'm sure. >> but you have to imagine the conversations that are going to go on. we've already heard from some of the folks who have said, you know, he's never going down into a mine again, which is a natural first reaction.

but from mining accidents before and from survivors of past mining accidents, we know there can be -- it can create a lot of tension. it can create a lot of anxiety about where does our life go from here? how do they deal with that? >> usually miners who are in axe depu accidents go back to the mine after a period of time. it seems these men are having a new life plotted out for them. most of them will take that new road. it's new territory. many of these people will probably end up leaving this community, living somewhere else. maybe santiago, maybe other countries, who knows. some of that may be difficult for them because it may be a dissolution of this family, this tribe, this culture that has come together, which may cause problems. >> some of the other things, just reading the experience of other miners, they talk about ongoing anxiety. we know in cases, for example,

of natural disasters, as many as 15% to 30% of people can have a sort of post-traumatic stress. so, there may be some tempers. there may be sullenness. there may be personality traits they have not seen before. how important is it that they continue to get ongoing help? not just in the short term but potentially in the long term foreseeable future? >> it's important they reintegrate with the people that love them, that they get back as best they can to their life. perhaps not necessarily in the mine. that's much more important than any kind of formal psychotherapy. one thing we know about these people after these type of situations, is they often get involved with into can xicants. it's not just treating them with

pharmacological, a lot of psy o psychotherapy, a good psychotherapist gets them to reintegrate and stay away from the drugs that are harmful with them, like we see in this country with returning war veterans. >> we've seen they've done an extraordinary job technically in getting these miners rescue, add least the first and continuing the rescue successfully. we hope they're as successful with what they've planned out for the reintegration process. doctor, thank you for be with us. osmon araya waiting for his ascent. 20 minutes, before getting him in there, putting all the monitors on him to make sure the ascent is completely closely watched and that he becomes, indeed, the sixth miner to successfully come out into freedom. we're going to continue our coverage in chile.

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