crisscrossing the country and democratic strategist alicia menendez and psychologist and former fbi profiler clint van zant. after 69, now 70 long harrowing days underground. right now the efforts are continuing to rescue the 15th miner. nbc kerry sanders is live in chile with all the latest developments and is the capsule going down? where are we with that 15th rescue, kerry? >> he is on his way up right now, victor segovia, he's an electrici electrician. 17 years as a miner and, you know, the truth is, he really wasn't even supposed to be there because he was working on his car and he needed to go do some work on his car and then he decided, oh, i'll go to work in the mine and then this happened. you know, we're seeing some of

the men come up and it's interesting because when you look add the before pictures and the after pictures, it's really quite stunning. i think that was, may have been victor zamora who just walked by the camera there. he was brought up just a short time ago. the fenix capsule working as intended, repeatedly. up and down, up and down. the pace, the tempo is picking up here. what was taking more than an hour per trip is now under an hour and the actual trip up is about a 14 to 17-minute ride to the surface. come off that, come off that phoenix into the world that they have been excluded from for 70 days. down below, 240 feet entombed in the earth coming up with the sunglasses on because their eyes have not seen sunlight for so long. they have had dimly lit areas

down there. the newspaper here says chile moves the world with the success of the biggest rescue in the history of mining. and there's a picture of the second miner who was brought up. mario sepulveda. they're calling him super mario as he exemplified the exuberance, not only of the 33 trapped miners, but also of the nation here and maybe around the world. the newspaper also goes on to say millions watched all of this in live television as the rescues are made. the president says what we're seeing here, there is no match in humanity. chris, it's stunning to watch all of this go on and from the very first miner to what we now have, number 15 on his way up,

there is no let down in the electricity and the excitement here and the anticipation that all 33 are coming up. >> but that means 19 families are still waiting and i think you and i and many people were really moved by the fact that when they were trying to decide what order they would bring people up in, all the miners said, let me go last. they all wanted their fellow miners to have a chance to get that fresh air and freedom before the others, but i wonder how the 19 families that are still waiting are holding up. they must still be just a little bit anxious. >> of course, of course. because they were warned by the engineers here that even if it worked good on first one and the second one and third one, they may encounter a problem. so, everybody is anxious. collectively, of course, all 33 are embraced by all the families. but, folks want to see their fathers, brothers make it up here to the surface. i think it's interesting, though, that for instance mario

has extended family as does and they're still here. i mean, you would think they're making their way to the hospital to go embrace him and they're still here cheering on all 33 because they want to cheer them on, plus, they know it's going to be a little complicated to get through the doors that hospital. they arranged it so that only three family members, chris, could greet them at the surface, otherwise there would be no room on the platform because i think the entire nation has adopted them as their brothers and their fathers. >> people outside the borders of chile, as well. thank you for your remarkable reporting. letser bring in your guest and medical director of the heart diabetes and weight loss centers of new york. howard bragman is the founder of 15-minute public relations. psychiatrist and clinical assistant of psychiatry at nyu medical center. let me start with you.

kerry was telling us earlier that as they're brought into triage, they have been sort of pushing their way through, they want a hot shower, so, at least they're in good enough shape they want to do that. what are some of the medical concerns that you're looking for? >> first of all, this is an absolutely mind boggling story. one of the miracles of our times. and there's going to be a long and short term effects, both mental and physical going to affect these men. now, we're not going to really know what's happening until we see them. we know that some of them had dental problems, skin problems from prolonged staying in this mine and the first area that we have to worry about are the lungs. and probably even the sinuses, too. inhaling the gases is methane and carbon dioxide and parti particular matter and that is going to affect the lungs from a short-term point of view and chronic pneumonia and long term

could be emphysema and even the chance of malignancy. from a cardio vascular point of view, it's a horror. here they are in these terrible conditions in a chronic state of stress and that means there is chronic vaso constriction. all the vessels are tightened down that can lead to blood pressure, arterial damage, thrombosis and then what about the sis stemmic effects depleted immune system and adrenal fatigue and heavy metal exposure. we know a lot from 9/11 all had heavy metal toxicity and decreased immune system from all the toxins and then what about the malnutrition, the protein salvation and this is a tremendous defect on these gentlemen. the last miner that came up, i can't believe how great he looked. >> they all look amazing. what you're saying does speak to

why they have been very specific about saying why this is not going to be a few hours or a few days. they have a long-term plan for keeping their eyes on all 33 of these miners. not just physically, but also emotionally and i know that you also worked with folks who came out of 9/11. posttraumatic stress is something a lot of people are watching for and sometimes that does not surface for days, weeks or even months, right? >> we saw that with 9/11. a large majority of people did not show symptoms until much later on and, in fact, we knew that eight or nine years later we are seeing many people having the same symptoms. some things to look out for are anxiety, panic, people have difficulty taking public transportation. they don't want to be in closed spaces. they have difficulty falling asleep at night. they may have flashbacks, nightmares and a general sense of mistrust. they may feel like, well, this happened one time and the could happen again and one of the most difficult issues is some of these men will have to decide,

do we want to go back to the same life and if we want to be a miner again, how do i cope that i work in an extremely dangerous profession. >> we have been talking about how quickly these rescues have taken place and here comes the next one. the 15th. is this number 15? number 15. we have seen since, oh, actually, it has been 12 hours since we saw the first miner who was rescued. it is every time an emotional scene. this is victor segovia and all of them have come together and they made some agreements on how they want to handle all this and they have said that they talked about what they will discuss and not discuss about what happened underground those first 17 days, of course, peeking people's curiosity at a time when we were wondering if they would live or die. they made agreements among themselves and certain things they're not going to talk about.

they are also going to sign agreements together. a lot of people want to give them book deals, movie deals and endorsement deals and they said we're going to sign all those together and share the profits. so, les let's watch as we see him being unhooked. each of them comes up with a monitor around their abdomen. they are monitoring things like their blood pressure when they're coming up in that capsule to make sure that each of them is able to deal with this. and they're getting all that equipment off. as they're in that fairly small capsule just a little more than six feet high and 26 inches wide for a ride that takes about 15 minutes. he's, as you say, 48 years old. married, four children. these families have been under a tremendous amount of stress, as well.

the president of chile has been there throughout and talking to the president of bolivia and taken a call from hugo chavez. leaders from around the world that have pledged their support.

for victor segovia's part he has kept a journal. he kept a very detailed record. we have known about some of the notes that have come up and the letters they have written to their loved ones. but this is one of the few who we believe has kept a journal while trapped underground for these past 70 days and this has been the routine. they come up with those sunglasses and they'll be very closely monitoring their eye sight for the next couple days as they adjust to light, once again. they put them on the stretching. they take them into the triage area, but it's actually pretty funny because we have seen some of them before they closed the door, practically bounding off of that, hugging the rescue workers and then, as kerry sanders was reporting to us, they can barely tolerate being looked add. just get me to a hot shower. it's been 70 days and who can blame them for that? howard bragman, let me bring you in. again, founder of the 15-minute public relations. if they came to you and said,

help us. what do you think is their future in terms of maximizing this exposure in, you know, in minding some financial security for their families because this mine is going to be closed. >> i think the first thing they have to do is look in the hearts and say what do they want? some people want to go back to a quiet life and some want to sort of ride that road to stardom and it's got to be a personal decision, but something you mentioned. the fact that the miners all agreed to a situation where any profits, any moneys would be split i think is a rational and logical and really to be applauded for them. because they all went through this equally and if somebody was getting more money than someone else, you have a possibility of hard feelings. what is really interesting here, chris, the real winner here is the country of chile. let's be clear, chile has had,

let's be polite and say sketchy, sketchy record on some human rights issues through the years. it's not a country we hear about in the news a great deal. and, yet, this is a beautifully, if you want to say it's a beautifully produced event. i think the 2,000 journalists there are extraordinarily well accommodated and you see the president and you see the chilean flag and i think chile is in the big winner of this to show their humanity and to show their love for these guys and i think that's what we'll be talking about in the days and weeks to come. >> i think there's no doubt about that. you make a good point and, kerry was joking and natalie morales was joking. this is not an area you would go to. this is the middle of the desert. a lot a lot more people will look at chile as a destination and often happens when there are stories like this. it brings an lawful lawful lot e to the country. thanks, great conversation. well, there's no way we can fully grasp what it is like to

be inside one of those rescue capsules traveling through a narrow tunnel. but richard lui got a small taste. >> that's right, chris. we had the opportunity to get into the rescue capsule that inspired the creation of that fenix capsule being used in chile. almost 40 years old, the one that we got to get into still works and we have a glimpse of what the 33 miners are going through today. also this hour, a judge orders the military to stop using the don't ask, don't tell policy for gays. the next move is on the president. we'll talk aboutthe political implications. trust me. trust me. ya i like that. trust me.

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well, we are waiting for 15 of these 33 miners have been rescude and an absolutely amazing set of rescues and the progress going faster and faster and faster.

victor segovia rescued most recently and a lot of us wondered what it would be like for them. richard lui went out and found out. >> we're watching more and you're saying we're waiting for number 16. iner ereorder to get an idea, w into the capsule that was built in 1972 for $22,000 that inspired the fenix that design that we're watching making the trips today. the diameter is 22 inches on the inside. >> correct. >> and i have the ability to actually have light outside, but you could imagine through the 15-minute trip that they'll be taking from the bottom of the mine going up more than 2,000 feet what they'll have to do keeping their hands down to the side like this, bill. >> you have to remember, too, in a 26-inch diameter hole you'll have a stone haul right here the entire time as you're coming up. >> one of the dynamics would be

i would have vision that might go two to three inches and a portion that would be smooth because a well casing for the top 300 or 330 feet, but below that depth it's going to be rock and i might see particialt and it might hit me in the face because the fenix has wheels on the top and bottom to assist. this capsule will rotate a little to the left and to the right as it makes those turns making it up that half a mile course. again, it would be mesh in this space. let me grab the camera from you just to get a sense of packed it is in here as i get in here and i do this because i really want to give you a sense of how tight it is as we move in some of the safety levers there. on the top you can see only about a foot and i'll need that if i'm in an emergency.

i'll put on the harness as you see above me. let me turn the camera around to show you what it looks like below and the space i've got here. now, i'm about 5'10", 150. not a big guy. but my shoulders are lock step side to side here. i don't know if you can see my shoulder here. left side, twist it around over here. my right shoulder is right there. so, if i were any bigger, i'm only a 38, it would be very difficult perhaps to survive or fit in here, shall i say, based on the space that's in here. bill, thanks. let me get out of here. a concern about the size, obviously, also a guy that was 6'2", 300 pounds you can see in this picture right here. he was dressed up as a miner and was able to get inside the same capsule. despite me thinking it would be very difficult he was curled up and fit inside that capsule. interesting features of this one, it uses bronze in certain area to reduce friction and

sparks at these locations here and then an escape pulley at the top that i was showing you earlier and this bottom opens up so you can escape if a situation develops if you need to do that if you are not feeling well or the capsule gets stuck. chris? >> i'm getting freaked out watching it. are you freaking out a little bit? >> i was. >> somehow it still feels clauser phobic. >> it does. there is a mesh that is in fenix tube and you may only have an inch outside. i did feel like, get me out. >> i can understand why. that helps us to get a real perspective on what they're going through. coming up, al qaeda trying to recruit here in america. and a touchdown to remember. more of this inspirational video straight ahead.

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they're calling it a miracle. 15 of the 33 trapped miners have been rescued. the 16th will soon be on his way up. and we were watching very closely the president of chile who has been there throughout. he was on his cell phone and he said something about, thank you, i will see you for tea at ten downing street. i think we can reasonably deduce from that that british prime minister david cameron was among the many world leaders who have given him a call. this has been watched with particular interest by countries that have strong mining interests, like the uk, like the united states and canada and there have been thousands of reporters who have descended on the desert there, places as diverse as north korea and russia and china and finland are there covering all these rescues and we're keeping our eye very closely on that mining site and

we'll keep you posted, as i said, we await the 16th rescue. to politics now. 12 states, more than 6,000 miles on the road in just 24 days. a crash course in americana that gets to the heart of what voters want. joe klein took that wild ride pulling in the driveway with the better grasp of what campaign trails are really talking about. you saw the cover of the latest edition and since this article came out i have been dying to talk to you about it because it's remarkable, look, you're one of the people who follows everything. you follow the polls and follow the races and talk to lots of smart people. were you surprised, though, by what you found out when you went into the heart of america? >> i was surprised by the intensity of it. i had a really good sense or at least a feeling that the kind of fist shaking anger that you see on tv all the time, especially on some other networks, wasn't

accurately portraying what people were feeling. it's much more anxiety than anger. people were really freaked out. this is like the fourth or fifth recession in four years doing this and in the past people would fear that their kids weren't going to live as long as they have and now they're just absolutely convinced that their kids aren't going to live as well. >> that's the death of the american dream. we always believed that our kids could do better. >> in fact, that was the polling question that distinguished americans from everybody else in the world. americans always said next year is going to be better. that's why we were americans and now, because of the 30 years of, i think, job losses, manufacturing job losses when the middle of the country has been gutted and then followed by this recession in 2008, the same sort of investment bakers who

sent the jobs overseas. >> i thought about you yesterday and saw the second straight year up 17%. i was wondering what those folks in middle america were feeling about that. >> you know, those guys on wall street, some of whom are friends of mine just simply do not get it. and, you know what, they've been able to pay back the bailout funds very quickly, which is a good thing except the way they pay them back is what they did in the past that got us into trouble in the past. wall street isn't investing enough into productive companies, companies that are going to produce new products, expand existing product lines. they are investing in playing these casino games with these very exhaustic and hard to understand financial derivatives. >> one thing that really surprised me as i read this and it is really a beautifully written piece was how much china came up. you said, what, 25 times for

every time someone mentioned afghanistan. i found that to be unbelievable. >> yeah. and it was distressing for me because i kept on going to afghanistan. that's the issue i have been obsessed with. going back after the elections in november. ivent been to china in the last seven years. and i really think that people are conscious of the fact that china is becoming a much bigger player and our jobs have gone over there and china has been acting chesty towards the other countries in the region and towards us recently. they want to slap tariffs, taxes on our chicken. you know, that we're sending them. that takes a fair amount of nerve. >> "time" magazine an american journey. online and in the magazine. joe, thank you so much for coming in. great to talk to you. >> my pleasure. let's take a look one more time at the live pictures out of chile. the rescue of miner number 16 is under way and we'll have that for you live as we had the first 15. after yesterday's key

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a billion people watching around the world and it is dramatic. this was moments ago victor se dwrx ovia to be pulled to fresh air and freedom after 70 days trapped in a mine. he grew up in the mining town and his dad is the one who first designed the capsule upon which this design is based. homer, it's great to see you, once again. we've been talking for more than 12 hours now and in the early hours, you know, i think some good warnings to people that there was sort of cautious optimism. things always can go wrong when you're dealing with mother nature and this kind of rescue that's never been done before, but, suddenly, they're really

bringing these guys up to the surface very quickly. everything seems to be going very smoothly. are you amazed to see how fast all of this is moving? >> i am amazed. you know, i was asked to give the speech for the sago miners, the dozen miners that were killed in west virginia in 2006. and it's a very short paragraph of that speech because it applies to these miners and the people who are helping them. in this ancient place, this glorious and beautiful and sometimes fearsome place of mountains and mines there still lives a people. people that yet believes in the old ways, the old virtus and old truths sxoo still left their heads from the darkness and too the light and say we are proud of who we are. we stand up for what we believe. we keep our families together. we trust in god. we do what needs to be done. we are not afraid. >> well, that is poetic and it

is so descriptive, as you say, of what we've been watching out of the last 12 hours out of chile. it's been a pleasure talking to you. thank you for sharing. >> this is wonderful, thank you. in the war on terror, chilling news to tell you about. an al qaeda affiliate has released the second edition of online magazine called "inspire." offers tips on killing americans to would-be militants. evan kohlmann joins us, a senior partner, always good to see you, evan. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to read from "inspire" we encourage to fight jihad on u.s. soil. even if it was accessible and easy we would still encourage them to perform operations in the west. to kill a snake, strike its head. do we know how successful they are being at recruiting english speakers and particularly americans? >> well, if you look at the group that produced this

magazine, there is a disturbing trend of people that are fighting their way to this group. the person who created the magazine. a former blogger someone well known to be on the internet saying crazy stuff and then all of a sudden he disappeared and showed up in yemen. there is the underwear bomber and a host of different individuals from new jersey and from arkansas who have either gone over or attempted to go over and join this group because of the fact that they perceive this group is actively looking for lone wolves who are americans who speak english and who are prepared to carry out terrorist attacks on u.s. soil. very particular to this group. it's not a large number of people, but enough people, enough lunatics out there that want to do this, that want to join with this group. we should be concerned. this group is putting out the philosophy that it's not necessary to become the next 9/11 hijacker. if you carry out a would-be terrorist attack and get media attention the same way that

faisal shahzad did, that's enough' into make you a hero. >> we mention this in english but also an arabic edition and planning indonesian and they're releasing videos. you gave me a list at one poin, 12, 16 different languages in which they're releasing recruiting videos. i mean, how disturbing is this? is the united states keeping up in terms of what we're able to do and the language skills we're able to bring to the table? >> it is a major challenge. no doubt about it. one thing when there was this profile of a particular kind of al qaeda operative we were looking for and nowadays al qaeda knows this and they try to defeat this for people that don't look at any profile. keep it simple. don't go for the huge 9/11 style event. go for something that makes media headlines and if you're indonesian

indonesian. if you're american, carry out something in the united states. that's a very dramatic statement and the problem is, again, there are small groups of people out there who will take this advice to heart and may, in fact, try to carry out the next faisal shahzad. it's a dangerous philosophy because of the fact it's empowering small groups of lone wolves spread across vast distances that don't fit any known terrorist profile. these people don't look like the 9/11 hijackers. they look like your next door neighbors. >> and who could be difficult to track. evan, thank you for coming in. >> thank you very much. coming up, we'll switch gears to a mystery out of mexico. a gruesome turn in the case of the american allegedly killed by pirates while jet skiing. the lead investigator has now been found beheaded. some amazing video to show you now. it shows a boy in a wheelchair who lived his dream of scoring a touchdown at a high school football game in arkansas. watch this. he's a high school senior.

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in what's being viewed as a milestone for gay rights in the u.s. a federal judge ordered the military to stop enforcing the don't ask don't tell law that prohibits openly gay men and

women from serving. the california judge issued that nationwide injunction to block enforcement of the policy, but what's next? alicia menendez joins us and "roll call" robert traynem are here. you can argue it could carry some risk given some polls show 70% of americans oppose don't ask, don't tell. and, of course, a core democratic constituency that is strongly against it. what do you think will happen here? >> when you get into the nuance to stay or whether to file an appeal. first of all, its portonight remember that the doj operates separately from the obama administration. they will make a decision about what they want to do. bottom line here, chris, this has to happen legislatively. it would be an incredibly tight schedule on which they would need to review this new report that's coming out. they would need to pass the

defense bill with this repeal in the senate and have to reconcile it with the house and then it would actually have to pass. >> which they had difficulty with last time. >> a lot of difficulty doing but it came down to a very partisan split vote. i think that's what we might see the second time around. >> robert, do you think we can push this through in a lame duck session? what do you think will happen here? >> the democrats are in a box on this and the reason why a large majority of folks that believe that discriminating against gays and lesbians that serve our country in uniform is horrific. what the obama administration has to figure out if they're going to appeal this and if they appeal it, it may go to the supreme court. if it does go to the supreme court, it looks like the supreme court most likely would uphold this overturn, if you will. so, again, if you take a look at the politics of this, i'm not sure that the doj, which does in the process separate from the obama administration but in reality they take on this type

of issues and most likely will let this lay and let this policy fade away. >> all right, can we talk about carl paladino a little bit. he is the candidate for governor in new york and found himself in some hot water when he made some comments regarding gays. in fact, even his nephew, who he was saying, you know, i have a nephew who's gay. really, i'm only against gay marriage but even his nephew wasn't buying that. he issued an apology. this is an dpurpt from the letter, i sincerely apologize for any comment that may have offended the gay and lesbian community or their family members. any reference to branding an entire community based on a small representation of them is wrong." do you think this is over for paladino or do you think this hurt him? what do you think, robert? >> he looks home ophobic and out of touch not only on the american people, but, also, obviously out of sink with his constituents all over new york, not just new york city.

this probably, probably is the achilles' heel because an insight of what he is thinking not just by gays and lesbians. not a good thing for him at all going into the general elections. >> thanks to you, alicia menendez, thank you for coming in. back to that breaking news because every time a siren sounds we head back out to chile because we want to be able to bring you these remarkable moments. we are awaiting the rescue of the 16th miner. what a day it has been. it started out that they were coming at a rate of about one every hour or so, but now as we're looking. just a little more than 12 hours in, we're looking at miner number 16. now, you see the woman on the left is the mother of this miner, who is waiting for daniel herrera to come to the surfacep who ez 27 years old. single truck driver in the mine. there was a lot of back and forth about what order the

miners would come in. and the decision was finally made that the first four would be healthy miners. if there were any problems that no one stuck in that capsule might be someone that had difficulty, either emotional difficulty or certainly medical difficulty. the next ten were largely people that had some history of problems, either they had diabetes, existing problems, some heart issues or people who had had problems down below. you know, it's very hot down there, very moist. some of them had developed skin problems. couple of them and anybody who's ever had a tooth ache can relate to this. said to be in a lot of problems with dental problems. they didn't have toothbrushes and the ability for personal hygiene or dental hygiene and now we're back into the minors here who have been doing well, although we have to say that everyone who has come out of that fenix capsule has come out

looking really terrific. they were clean shaven. we have been told that some of them were fussing over how they looked. we got some laughs from some quotes from family members. one of them saying, my dad only has a few hairs but he wants to make sure they're all in place. alicia menendez. i want to bring you in as a viewer, as somebody who has been watching this. what are your thoughts as you wince all these rescues? >> it is amazing how a story like this can feel so away and other parts of the world can feel so far removed and when you watch this, you realize we're all connected by our humanity. the faces of these mothers, these wives and children being able to see these men for the first time, that longing that you can experience even as a viewer who has been watching this for 69 days. it's just incredible. and the sense of hope that these people have managed to maintain in the darkest of moments. i haven't seen something like this in a long time.

>> you were talking earlier about some of -- oh, look. his mother who is thrilled. >> the moms, they must be beside themselves. >> these are moments of absolute elation. but you also wonder, doctor, about the stress that it's been on the families. >> that's true. a lot of times as practicing anti-aging physician, we look at the effects of stress on caregivers. like there have been studies on alzheimer's caregivers and it has a devastating effect on their health. familialy members are happy now but as i mentioned earlier the stress from being down there that long will take a long-term effect. >> also the psychological effect of just sort of reintegrating into life. you can imagine they have gotten into a certain kind of routine down there. they've bonded very closely with the other miners. the families have bonded with

each other. and here it comes. and here coit comes. the latest rescue in this remarkable fenix capsule. they took their time. they wanted to make sure all of this was going to run well. there was a lot of pressure, as you can imagine, for them to get this rescue done very quickly. we keep reminding you there's never been a rescue at this depth. there have never been miner s underground this long and in many ways their patience and their caution and attention to detail is all being affirmed in what we're seeing as we watch the 16th miner being pulled from this mine.

you can point out the dissimilarities between the miners, daniel herrera, the younger one. they range in age from 19 up into the 60s. some been in the mine for decades. one in the fifth day down in the mines but there is a unanimity of elation as they're coming out of these capsules and being rescued. there's his mom waiting to hold her son. she can't wait. generally takes a few minutes to disconnect them from the monitors and the harnesses. [ chanting ]

[ applause ] >> watching every one of these since last night 111:00 local time. it's still -- i still get all choked up watching it. it's such a wonderful thing and

you mentioned, alesia, this is a point of pride for chile and the united states. it was a team from pennsylvania who said, try our drill. and brought the guys over there to be able to bore that hole. it is texas company providing the monitors that are around the abdomens of the guys making sure that the ride up is safe and places all around the world donated their time and expertise and a thousand different people who contributed to the rescue. we know people as diverse as hugo chavez and most recently we believe the prime minister at 10 downing street calling the president of chile who's been there throughout. you have to believe that barack obama will make a call at some point. >> absolutely. there's some -- there's a desire to parallel this somehow to the

oil spill an ento thid to think moment of relief thinking we stopped the leaking. this part of the journey is done but the hardest start till ahead. what it means for the families and the nation, this is a story to keep our eye on. the promise by the president of chile that they are not going to be abandoned. that they are going to be closely monitored. there's been help pouring in from all over. remember, it's not just these miners but the others who worked in that mine which is now going to be closed, who will be out of a job and there are a lot of issues that will have to be addressed in the days and weeks to come but right now it's nothing but unbridled joy and throughout the morning, richard lui, what stays with you? >> it is that unbridled joy in front of us and concern because we have miners still coming up from, you know, more than after a mile understood beneath the surface so i'm watching this as

we have seen more and more, number 16 right now, right? >> that's right. we just got information. as if we're pressing, alesia, from the white house gaggle, the president has been watching some of this. like the rest of the world and just a billion other people. absolutely riveted to these heartwarming moments and he doesn't have an exact time or plan but he is going to be making a phone call to the president of chile and as i said really a point of national pride for the united states in many ways because they have been contributing for the folks in texas, the folks in pennsylvania. very crucial element, doctor, the folks at nasa who know more than a little something because of the international space station about nutrition and psychology for people who are in close spaces for a very long time and they've been consulted since we knew early on that these guys were alive. critical to have really started

then and not just now once they get out of the mine. >> first of all, you know, the world needed a happy story. >> couldn't agree more. >> it's bad news, bad news. as far as myself, you know, i have a little sideline of clinical nutrition and environmental medicine. you will have nutritional deficiencies here and profeign depleti depletion. you will have adrenaline fatigue and long-term effects. but, hey, who's better than nasa to figure this out? they were eating 200 calories. it is a sad story. apparently they sent cigarettes gown to them. >> i know they wanted them. good news is they have lost on average 18 to 20 pounds and the first miner the wife says he looks like he's been on vacation, he looks so good. i wouldn't imagine he wouldn't look good to you. richard, alesia, thank you for

getting into the capsule. we thank you, as well. that's going to do it for me this hour. see you back here tomorrow and every weekday. "the washington post" jonathan capehart will be here. contessa brewer is next and we'll continue to have live for you the rescues from chile. [ male announcer ] prilosec otc traveled to fairbanks, alaska. home of one of the coldest, longest nights on the planet. and asked frequent heartburn sufferers, like carl, to put prilosec otc's 24 hour heartburn protection to the test for two weeks. the results? i can concentrate on everything i'm doing, not even think about it anymore. since i've been taking it, i've been heartburn free, which is a big relief for me. [ male announcer ] take your 14-day challenge. ♪

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