tv Morning Joe MSNBC October 15, 2010 6:00am-9:00am EDT
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you. >> my gosh, oprah,version, just something we found on the internet. we'll take her any day of the week. we bow to you, oprah. "morning joe" starts right now. i enjoy jousting with "the view." with the exception of elizabeth hasselbeck, they don't see my side. i loved that explanation today. didn't you? >> welcome back to "morning joe." 6:00 in the morning on a friday morning. what a crowd we have assembled. joe and mika off today. mike barnicle is here, norah o'donnell is back with us against her will. she's like, really? >> let me go home. i want to go home. >> you need me friday, too? great, thanks.
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john ridley is back with us. >> i only got a part of the day in yesterday. a full day today. it's like working at fox con in china. >> the wages are lower here, though. that's the difference. >> joining us in washington, matt lewis, great to see you. thanks for being here as well. >> thank you. >> "the view" walkout. i didn't see it live. i missed history. what happened, norah? >> should we start with that? let's begin with that infamous walkout on "the view" where whoopi and joy left the live show in protest of bill o'reilly's comments on muslims. here is how it went down. >> let me break this to you. 70% of americans don't want the mosque down there. >> where is that poll? >> what are you talking about? >> no, no. >> oh, my god. >> muslims didn't kill us on 9/11? is that what you're saying. >> extremists.
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>> i don't want to sit here now. i don't. >> you're outraged about muslims killing us on 9/11. >> you have just seen what should not happen. we should be able to have discussions without washing our hands and screaming and walking off stage. >> listen to me because you'll learn, all right? >> whoa. well both whoopi and joy returned to the stage after o'reilly said if anyone felt i was demeaning all muslims, i apologize. the fireworks addressed on their shows last night. >> how did we get here? were we attacked by japanese extremists? no one i know, no one wants to insult muslims. but almost everybody i know is tired of the political
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correctness surrounding the 9/11 attack. the truth is if moderate muslims all over the world would stand with us against radical islam, the terrorist wouldn't exist. >> i was really angry. i thought o'reilly was saying something i construe as hate speech. to say muslims killed us on 9/11, you could say that about any group. >> laura ingram said the walkout seemed contrived. o'reilly said he wasn't expecting it to happen. i thought it was pretty heated. whoopi and joy felt like he was being demeaning to them, they should have walked off. >> they shouldn't walk off. stay there. keep going. confront him. >> have the debate. i think that was the point barbara was making. >> i think it's odd to invite somebody in your house and get into an argument and walk out of the room in your own house. forget you, i'm going to to kitchen. if you're not there, you even present the facts. to me i'm more upset about the
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fact that all of television seems like it's just other hosts talking about other hosts and getting angry with other hosts. >> you talked about it on your show later that night. >> i'll be talking about you later on my show this evening. >> do you know what's interesting to me, a couple days ago talking about the miners and showing these thrilling pictures of each miner every 45 minutes, coming up from above ground, arriving safely. a lot of people are saying this is terrific, this is what the news business ought to be doing, covering new news, real people in realtime. two days later, the lead news story, not our fault, the lead news story we're covering is a cable tv show. >> it's kind of our fault, isn't it? matt lewis, what's your take on what happened yesterday? >> i almost think i should storm off and "the view" can talk about us later today. in a way it's a superficial story. we're talking about celebrities being mad at celebrities.
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there is a real debate to be had here. actually i think maybe that's productive. look at what we have here. by the way, make this point, bill o'reilly got a huge applause from that audience when he talked about 70% of new yorkers not wanting the mosque and culture center to be there. it's interesting considering the viewers of "the view" are probably lean left and who watches the view, who goes to see the view? not bill o'reilly's crowd probably. but having said that, it's a real debate to have. i think bill o'reilly is wrong to general rise to say muslims, quote, unquote, did this. there's too much political correctness and the fear of admitting we are at war with an ideology here, radical islam to be sure. it actually maybe sparks a legitimate debate we should have. >> the thing is there are two issues and two questions to be asked. bill o'reilly is close to being right. about 60% of new yorkers think it shouldn't be there. the other question is do you
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understand the constitutional right for them to build there? it's achb equal number, about 60%. if you ask me should it be there, i would say no. if you understand the constitutional right they have to be there, people sayah, we get it. we understand that. there's an argument to be had, but it's disingenuous to having one side of the argument. >> let's go to real news then, the nevada senate race close, virtually tied. senate majority leader harry reid and challenger sharron angle went head to head in their first ond only scheduled debate. it had been billed as a fight light. neither candidate landed any major punches. i was reading twitter, harsh comments about both their performances. angle did attack reid as a career politician responsible for excessive federal spending and intrusive government regulation. at one point challenging him to admit that social security was a fiscal problem. >> man up, harry reid. you need to understand that we
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have a problem with social security. what we need to do is keep our promises to our senior citizens by putting the money back in the trust fund and going forward, allowing our workers to have the option of a personalized social security retirement plan that becomes an asset to them just like your thrift savings plan is an asset to you. if it's good enough for you, it should be good enough for the rest of us. >> all these things i've talked about, my opponent is against those. she wouldn't do that. my job is to create jobs, but she's talking about extreme. >> heirry reid, it's not your job to create jobs. it's your job to create policies that create the confidence for the private sector to create those jobs. >> man up, willie. >> it's too late for that. >> all right. angle took a personal shot at reid demanding he explain how he got rich during his decades in congress. >> you came from search light to
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the senate with very little. now you're one of the richest men in the u.s. senate. on behalf of nevada taxpayers, i'd like to know, we'd like to know how did you become so wealthy on a government payroll? >> senator reid? >> mitch, that's really kind of a low blow. i think most everyone knows i was a very successful lawyer, i did a very good job in investing. her suggestion i made money being a senator is simply false and i'm disappointed she would suggest that. matt lewis, sharron angle is mocked on the coasts roundly by the press. but she's got a slim lead over the senate majority leader. what's going on there? >> first of all, let me address this "man up" comment. this is actually something that i think deserves attention. this is a trend. i think -- i believe we've heard christine o'donnell use that term in the primary. we've heard sarah palin talk
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about president obama not having the cajon nas to tackle the immigration problem. i think this is spa pattern. i know "man up" is a cultural term that thkids are using these days, but i think in a sense you're actually challenging harry reid's manhood, and i actually think that's not healthy for political debate. what's he supposed to say back to her? anyway, i throw that out as something of interest. i think in terms of the debate, harry reid is a boxer. i would compare sharron angle's task to rocky balboa's task in "rocky." he had to go the distance. he didn't have to beat apollo creed. he had to go the distance. think she went the distance with the champion. i think actually, even though nobody technically won the debate, i think sharron angle comes out ahead.
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i think she is now poised to win, to defeat the majority leader because she survived that debate last night. >> sharron angle as apollo creed, mike barnicle. >> the more you watch these clips from these debates in the various states, it's a wonder that anyone votes. it's a wonder that anyone goes out to vote. i don't know harry reid, but i do know instinctively he gave the wrong answer when sharron angle hit him on how you made so much money. looking into the camera and saying i'm really disappointed you asked that. i don't think that resonates with a guy who lost his house within the past year. what happened? how did you make this money, harry? level with us. >> the only state where you can vote "none of the above." >> i'm curious to see how "none of the above" does. it's surging in the polls. it's coming from behind. welcome senator mr. none of the above. >> i was not watching the nevada senate debate but i was watching
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sarah palin for a ""today show"" piece. the former alaska governor, sarah palin, is actually on this three-day swing through california that is partly promotional and partly political in a state that's been slow to embrace her star power. yesterday she spoke to a receptive audience of conservatives in san jose, urging voters to drop democrats in next month's election. >> remember the old line, lead, follow or get out of the way. well, washington isn't leading us anywhere but towards that brink there, towards the edge of the cliff. obama and boxer and pelosi and reid, they won't follow what it is that the american people are telling them to do. and trillions in deficit spending and obama-care are proof of that. so let's respectfully suggest that they get out of the way, okay? >> she also went on to criticize last year's stimulus bill. >> still knowing that what was in that stimulus package, some of the examples that we have
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seen where those dollars have gone are just atrocious. now we even have the president finally admitting, oh, there's kind of no such thing as a shovel-ready project. yeah, yeah. well now we know what it was that they were shoveling and it wasn't asphalt. >> she even appeared to make a dig at michelle obama, the first lady of the united states, alluding to comments the first lady made in 2008 where she said, quote, for the first time in my adult life i'm proud of my country. watch what palin said last night. >> you know when i hear people or it was said during the campaign they had never been proud of america until that time, i thought hadn't they met anybody in uniform yet? >> john, what do you think about that, to attack the first lady of the united states? >> i think it's a poor choice to go after the first lady. also, she completely misrepresented what she said. i think sarah palin just said, i've never been proud of america
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before. that's not what michelle obama said at the time. look, it's interesting because hear is sarah palin trying to make inroads in california. i think you were talking about a rally she's going to have in anaheim on sunday. you don't see a lot of republicans going out to support her. >> you were just saying, norah that fiorina and whitman, neither will appear with sarah palin. >> no, they will not appear with her. this is a blue state, california. palin is a divisive figure. she's popular in certain parts of california. and so they're in very close races, they do not want to appear with her, certainly with just two weeks left now to the election. >> matt lewis, what's your take on the influence of sarah palin on thighs midterm elections? where is she helpful and where can she potentially be harmful to republicans. >> i think this is the case with all these surrogates. president obama isn't going to go to arkansas and campaign for blanche lincoln. sarah palin is out in california. she's going to rally the base
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and raise some money. clearly there's a place where sarah palin is going to perform well and probably want to be more public in a place where she doesn't want to be. putting aside the michelle obama line, the wurn line i thought was a great applause line was about the shovel-ready project. this goes to this "new york times" magazine piece that president obama gave, really giving fodder to republicans. he said there's no such thing as a shovel-ready job. i'm not sure that was a good idea to do that interview with him. >> that was one of the principle tenets of the stimulus bill. >> the summer of recovery, right? >> that went away quickly, didn't it? we'll get into it later. president had an mtv rally, trying to get the kids fired up. interesting moments in that rally. >> tough questions. >> tough questions from the youngsters. i call them the youngsters. >> they also say man up a lot, the young people. >> they do. >> that's going to be my new phrase around here, once you
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guys unchain me. >> you can leave in three hours. up next, two years ago it was hope and change. politico explains why president obama is looking more like mccain in '08 using the "whatever works" strategy. our first new look at the sarah palin reality show which has a lot of hiking. there's some bear fights in here if you watch long enough. well, take my word for it. it was a week packed with president streakers, rescued miners and even a love triangle. we'll weave it together. but first here is bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> good friday morning. this nor'easter in new england causing problems this morning, mostly from boston northward. the storm is currently located right over the top of cape cod. the rain is actually pretty much over with around new york city. what we'll wait for next is part two, the gusty winds that will come on the back side of this storm. that will start the afternoon and continue into saturday. here is a closer view of the radar. you notice there's still light rain around hartford.
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the heaviest rain from massachusetts through new hampshire and now approaching areas like portland and bangor, maine. even cape cod, the rain is about over with. expect a dry day today, new york city and philadelphia. it will be windy. the winds should crank up to 40 miles per hour late this afternoon. currently the wind is only about 17. in boston right now winds are only 22. how windy will it be in your area? here are some of the selected peak wind gusts. these are the forecast wind gusts, coast of maine up to 60 miles per hour. hartford, 40 to 50. new york city could have gusts from 40 to 45. philly a little less than that. same for you in d.c. windy but still only about 30 to 35. your forecast for today, rain is headed through northern new england, dry south of that. much of the country actually looks perfect on this gorgeous fall friday from minneapolis all the way down to the deep south. for the most part your weekend looks really nice, too. that storm will slowly push away. that's a look at your forecast. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks.
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a federal judge recently ruled we ladd to overturn don't ask don't tell t. military already regulates personal behavior. it doesn't allowed if you're married to have an add dull trous affair. >> this is shocking in light of another comment christine o'donnell made in the '90s. >> the bible says that luft in your heart is committing adult tri. you can't master bate without lust. >> so let's follow o'donnell's ironclad logic. being gay in the military equals
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committing adultery in the military. let's reduce that equation, so being gay equals committing adultery and master baiting equals committing adultery. so master baiting equals gay. >> can't argue with math. there it is. >> and logic. let's take a look at the morning papers. "new york times" front page shows michelle obama voting early. "wall street journal last effort by democrats to match funding by conservative organizations has come up short and leaves the party more reliant on the campaign efforts of labor unions. detroit news, consumer demand for the chevy volt is so strong that general motors is planning to boost early production of the vehicle that rolls into showrooms later this
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year at i think $41,000. >> that much? >> 35 to purchase? >> i get the rims on mine. >> the spinners. >> yeah, on my electric car. >> can see willie in his electric car. peace, what's up. >> so uncool. >> anchorage daily news, lisa murkowski received a major financial boost from corporate donors who krited $800,000 this week to support the write-in senate candidate. with us chief white house political correspondent mike allen with a look at the playbook. >> happy friday. >> politico, which is you -- >> and a few others. >> i read what they tell me to read. you're reporting president obama may be on the same path john mccain was on in 2008. what do you mean by that? >> trying to find a message that
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will stick, trying different messages, and the white house pushed the foreign money message for a while. now they're more talking about secret donations, undisclosed donations. the democratic national committee said this is working. they sent a memo to the editorial boards, columnists and regional papers around the country yesterday saying this is connecting with voters on an economic level. but republicans are licking their chops outside republican groups talking about the obama influx. they say these attacks from the president, the white house, the democratic national committee, have been a gold mine. the u.s. chamber of commerce had its biggest online fund-raising day ever yesterday after glenn beck on his radio show said you should come to the defense of the chamber of commerce. american crossroads, one of the groups that was conceived by karl rove, they're on the drudge report with an ad and picture of the president, you click through and it says stop the obama
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smears, give money. they now are going into eight house races attacking democrats that they would not be in the it weren't for this obama influx, as they call it. american action network, another one of these groups, say they're going into a new senate race, again, because of the money that's pouring in because of the attacks from washington. >> matt lewis, it does seem like mccain in 2008, the democrats in the white house veering from message to message to distract people from the economy. >> it's funny. in politics you always want to be proactive. and there's always a bias toward action. sometimes i think these guys, their best interest might be to just do nothing. i think maybe they're making matters worse. i think there's another analogy between mccain and obama that's interesting to look at. if you look at mccain in 2000, he was the maverick, the press loved him, same thing with obama in 2008. i think it shows how fickle the american public and the media
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are. take these guys who were rock stars, a couple years later, the magic is gone. >> mike, you're nodding your head. >> it's a great point. >> all right. fair enough. the national republican senatorial committee fired the media consulting firm that put out that, quote, hickey, actor casting that we talked about earlier this week for the west virginia ad. give us the back story on that. >> there was an ad in west virginia, showed a couple guys in flannel shirts at a diner criticizing the governor there, jim manchin running for senate. saying in washington he was obama. the casting call asked for hickey-looking, countryish actors. they said think truck drivers. they said wide stripes, not narrow stripes. people in west virginia didn't care for this description. and when politico exposed it, the national republican senatorial committee said, whoa, we didn't have anything to do with this. even our ad company didn't have
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anything to do with this. this was just an outside casting agent. yesterday that casting agent went public with e-mails showing she had just cut and pasted that description from the ad company. the nrsc said they had been misled. they fired the ad company. but the ad may have done its damage. the controversy may have done its damage. a new poll out this morning from martial university showing dan manchin up 10. >> he's used this ad. he said they think and the republicans think you're a bunch of hicks in west virginia. >> they should have said country. country would have been fine. mike allen, thanks so much. we'll talk to you later in the show. coming up, the president takes his campaign tour to the america's youth. they can ask does he deserve another four years. oprah makes a cameo on the daily show delivering a surprise gift to the studio audience. she gives out a lot of gifts.
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you're looking at a live shot of washington, d.c. from reagan national airport where it looks like it's a clear day. according to big bill karins, it's going to be -- >> why big bill? >> that's my new nickname for him. >> we call him broadway bill. >> i like big bill. we'll talk about that later. >> this is a good point to talk about this. last night mike barnicle and i did a book event in west port, con netted cut. one of the big first questions was about norah o'donnell's laugh. >> what did they say? >> most of them love it. there were a couple dissenting opinions. we brought them over. >> some say i cackle. >> let's bring them out. let's get to the news everybody. the justice department is asking a u.s. district judge to allow
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the military's don't ask don't tell policy to stay in place at least for now. that action came two days after the judge ordered the pentagon to stop enforcing its ban on gay and less beans serving openly in the military. in court papers filed yesterday, the government argued that allowing the ruling to be implemented would disrupt military preparedness and complicate on going reviews of the law. speaking at yesterday's town hall broadcast on mtv, president obama reiterated his opposition to the policy. >> this is not a situation in which, with a stroke of a pen, i can simply end the policy. i agree with the basic principle that anybody who wants to serve in our armed services and make sacrifices on our behalf, on behalf of our national security, anybody should be able to serve. this is not a question of whether the policy will end. this policy will end, and it will end on my watch. but i do have an obligation to make sure that i'm following some of the rules.
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i can't simply ignore laws that are out there. i've got to work to make sure that they are changed. >> the obama administration has maintained that congress and not the courts should change don't ask don't tell. gay rights groups are frustrated with that progress on that front and want the policy to end now. should we discuss this? i think this is a big deal because essentially the pentagon had to weigh in because they didn't want people in limbo on this. the air force came out and said don't enforce the policy. it's kind of been unclear. >> john, this is one of the big points of frustration from the left, why president obama hasn't moved faster and more decisively on this. >> he says it's not a stroke of the pen when harry truman ended segregation in the military. it seems very odd to have the log cabin republicans, gay republicans are the ones who brought the suit, that the activist judges are saying it should be shut down. and the president who is supposed to be the transformer saying, no, we need to slow down
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and take this back to congress and the senate. it may be process. it seems like the oddest process to get where we obviously are going in the very near term. >> no matter how you feel about the issue, on one side or the other, this has been under pentagon review, various military military branches reviewing this for months and months and months. if they had the same type of military review process in june of 1944 that they have on this, the troops would still be at the white cliffs of dover. >> next story. the obama administration is expected to report today that the federal budget has gone past $1 trillion for the second straight year. >> we did it. >> the congress btd office is projecting the exact number will be down from last year which is the highest on record but still provide critics with fresh ammunition ahead of the midterm elections. chile's 33 rescued miners are slowly adjusting to their new lives as national heroes. yesterday three men were released from the hospital and
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greeted by a mob of photographers. most of the other miners are just nine. one twwas treated for pneumonia and three others for dental problems. the president said anyone deemed responsible would face justice. >> we said the other day they're remarkably healthy for guys trapped underground that long. >> a little too healthy perhaps. >> what are you suggesting? >> you want them to be worse off. >> come out for dental work. one got liposuction. >> they all got ipads. >> steve jobs. >> all you do is spend 66 days under ground and you can get a brand new iphone. >> if they continue to be surrounded by the mob of media, lit be interesting to see which will first asks to go back down. >> it will be interesting for
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these individuals, if somebody did one of those 7-up documentaries like michael apton and actually see how the effects of this, the incarceration and fame and readjusting, it would be interesting. i seriously hope them all the best. >> i bet somebody does it. we've reviewed the tapes of "morning joe" from last 3 and a half years. this is the lamest sports we've ever had. >> his wife threw the ball. >> nothing happened last night. so let's talk about tonight. the american league championship series kicks off, texas rangers playing the yankees in texas. the yankees sent cc sabathia to the mound. this will be the rangers first trip to the alcs in the history of the franchise. yankees in six? >> no. >> norah --
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>> rangers in seven. >> rangers. >> i say the brewers in 2025. >> that's close. that's my prediction. >> don't hold your breath, john. here is another story. inez sainz, the mexican tv reporter, in the news for allegedly being harassed by jets players. she returns to work but refuses to go back into the locker room. sainz, a reporter for tv azteca says she'll continue to interview players but only from the sidelines. saying i'm not going into locker rooms, it's not a good place for me. i don't want to be in there. >> now you know about that. i'm so sorry about all. is there a college football game we can talk about. a rough week for brett favre. the vikings got roughed up against the jets monday night. he's been fighting the allegations about sending racy text messages to a jets
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employee, nursing a terrible elbow. now this, insult to injury. during practice a football thrown by one of his teammates, mishandled by far. he didn't see it coming. mike barnicle points out, no one coming to his aid as he writhes in pain. >> walk right past him. where are his teammates? you go help him up. you say, brett, do you want to get up? >> you love brett favre. >> we do in our house, we love brett favre. 41-year-old man get hit below the belt rolling on the ground, good morning america. >> with his wife on the sidel e sidelines. i heard she has a mean throw. >> she doesn't like those texts. >> an allegation is all it is. that's what pat buchanan keeps telling us about watergate. up next, this morning's must-read opinion pages and sign up for the morning minutes newsletter that includes a daily
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they act like they're permanent residents of some june corn ranch in fantasy land. if they really think they're going to be able to turn it around with the liberal policies that they want to continue. pixie dust. that's right. one thing about california, you aren't afraid to call it like you see it, to help me out, interjecting all these wonderful sound bites, i'm going to write them down on the palm my hand and use them later on. watch. next time you hear me, i'll use the term pixie dust. you'll know where it came from. >> john ridley actually has a unicorn ranch. >> unicorn meat is so delicious.
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beyond tasty. tender, delicious. >> do you marinate it? >> i do, i do. >> what do you do with the horns? >> mount them on the wall next to my big foot and him lay yeah. >> that's good stuff. i'm supposed to get to the news here. should we screw it and keep talking? all right. sorry. president obama is continuing -- [ laughter ] >> a bad day to stop sniffing glue. president obama is continuing his push to energize the youth vote. yesterday the president held a live town hall that aired on mtv, bmt in which he stepped up his attack on republicans for allegedly using foreign money in campaign ads. >> if you're in a battleground state right now you're being bombarded with negative ads every single day and nobody knows who is paying for these
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ads. they've got names like americans for prosperity, or moms for motherhood or -- actually that last one i made up. but you have these innocuous sounding names. we don't know where this money is coming from. i think that is a problem for our democracy. >> although some reports that mtv had screened the audience to ensure a friendly crowd, the president was forced to defend his economic record to at least one young voter. >> if the economy does not improve over the next two years, why should we vote you back in. >> most of the jobs were lost before my economic policies were even put into place. as a consequence of the recovery act we put into place, there's no doubt that three million folks are working now that would not otherwise be working. whereas as the economy was contracting where i came into office, it's now growing. >> matt lewis, that's the
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case -- we saved the economy, we walked ourselves back from the economy, we walked back from the press business. there are three million jobs that would not have existed otherwise. is that breaking through finally, that message. >> the argument couldn't have been a whole lot worse. it politically doesn't work when the unemployment rate is 9.6% when people are hurting i think some of the toughest questions that president obama has fielded have come from folks who likely voted for him. we remember back, the cnbc town hall a couple weeks ago, a lady who voted for him said give me some hope here. is this the new normal? i think it's fascinating. look, this question this young man asked him at the mtv debate really brings up the reagan question. are you better off today than you were four years ago? in this case are you better off today than you were two years ago. that is what people vote on. the answer today is no, we're not better off in terms of our
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pocketbooks. you can make the argument, the intellectual argument all day long that we inherited this crisis. politically speaking, it's not going to work for him. >> john, we were talking a minute ago about president obama yesterday again hammering this foreign money, foreign money coming into the midterm elections. it's been disproven by many media organizations. they're riding that message. >> we talked about it. i thif it's the wrong message to ride. there's something interesting about this debate. they thought about putting in some questions like they asked clinton back, the fun questions, boxers or briefs? a lot of these young people rejected it and they really are interested in what's going on. i think the young people understood what he was saying about this soft money, this foreign money. but i think what they're really, really interested in are the jobs, what's it going to be like in two years. i think the president, instead of talking about foreign money, really needs to get the base out. you see the polls between likely voters and voters who still
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support. if he can get past the likely voters and get the base back out, the democrats have a chance. he has an interesting ad running that talks about the last eight years and what it was like and reminding people what it is now. that's the way to go -- in my opinion that's the way to go, mott the soft money, foreign money. that's not the real issue for these young people. >> an interesting conversation. coming up, harold ford junior joins the conversation. when we come back, oprah's surprise to "the daily show" audience and to stephen colbert as you can see it there. keep it on "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. ♪
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>> back to acting school for norah. >> this is like the live "30 rock" episode. >> just messing around. >> did you have to say that? do you think anyone was fooled. >> not by nora's acting. you know jon stewart has his rally restoring hope, stephen colbert restoring fear. duelling rallies. steve colbert made a cameo on "the daily show." they started scrapping about whose rally is going to be bigger or better, and jon stewart called in the big gun. >> steven. >> yes, yes. >> "daily show" audience, look
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under your seats. >> look under your seats. what's under there? >> open the envelope, please. >> oprah providing fre transportation for jon stewart's rally stephen colbert had his moment, the show that follows mr. stewart's. here was his message to oprah. >> my grandfather had a saying, he used to say [ bleep ] oprah. i'm your oprah, look underneath your chairs. i am bringing this studio audience to my march. you're going to the march and you're going to the march and you're going to the march. everybody is going to my march. whoo! everybody is going to my march!
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i will pay for everyone here tonight to travel to washington, d.c. on a bus from chinatown. >> mike, the nice thing about that is the casualty rates on the bus, way down over the last year. >> off of last year, this year's casualty rate is down to a minimum, down to about 25%. >> they really cleaned up their operation. we shouldn't say that. it's terrific and is like 15 bucks. >> they have tires on the bus now. we talked a little about sarah palin at the top of the hour rallying in california for republican candidates. but also yesterday we got our first look at her highly anticipated reality show that's going to be on tlc called sarah palin's alaska. let's watch the trailer. >> oh, gosh. we are somewhere that people dream about. >> family comes first. it's got to be that way. >> flo boys, go upstairs. >> this is flipping fun.
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how come we can't be satisfied with tranquillity. >> i'd rather be doing this than some stuffy political office. i'd rather be out here being free. >> an all new eight-week television event. sarah palin's alaska. >> i'd watch that. >> can you imagine, if john mccain made one decision differently for better or for worse, i love sarah palin. i never get tired of her. >> apparently there will be bears fighting on the show, too, which is exciting. up nerth, harold ford, junior, standing by in the green room. our good friend will be coming out. we'll be right back. [ advisor 1 ] what do you see yourself doing one week,
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let me break there to you. 70% of mayor kans don't want that mosque down there. don't give me the "we" business. >> muslims killed us on 9/11. >> oh, my god. >> muslims didn't kill us on 9/11. >> extremists -- >> i don't want to sit here. i don't want to sit here now. i don't. >> you're outraged about muslims killing us on 9/11.
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>> you have just seen what should not happen. we should be able to have discussions without washing our hands and screaming and walking off stage. >> listen to me because you'll learn. >> chaos on "the view" yesterday. look at that picture. is that from chopper 4? wnbc's chopper 4 in new york city? that's beautiful. >> that is. chopper 4 getting it done this morning. there's a live picture from the top of our building looking south toward manhattan, apparently a small earthquake hitting the island. just kidding. a shaky shot there. with us onset, screen writer from "that minority thing" john ridley. >> how are you. >> chairman of the democratic leadership council and msnbc
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political analyst harold ford, junior. >> i don't know all the viewers understand. that was a good movie, "undercover brother." >> you can go get it. >> harold ford, junior, "more davids than goll lie agents." and in washington, matt lewis. mike barnicle joining the table. how are you doing? >> keep on going. >> checking the shuttle schedule. let's begin with whoopi and joy leave the live show where o'reilly's comments about muslims and the proposed islamic center. you saw what happened, but the drama didn't end there as o'reilly and behar who have their own prime time cable news shows addressed the fireworks last night. >> i enjoyed jousting with the view ladies because with the
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exception of elizabeth hasselbeck, they don't see it my way. i want their audience to hear both sides. i loved that exposition today. didn't you? how did we get here? were we attacked by japanese extremists? no one i know, no one wants to insult muslims, but almost everybody i know is tired of the political correctness surrounding the 9/11 attack. the truth is, that if moderate muslims all over the world would stand with american against radical islam, the terrorists couldn't exist. >> i was really angry. i thought o'reilly was saying something -- that i construe as hate speech, frankly. to say muslims killed us on 9/11 is like -- you could say that about any group. >> laura ingram who was o'reilly's guest last night said she thought the walkout seemed contrive. o'reilly said he was not expecting it to happen. matt lewis once we get past the theater of all this, you were saying there's a serious point to be made. >> i think so.
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on the surface, this is superficial. it's great television, of course. but i think at the heart of it, this is a real debate to be had. you have people i think who are smart people, certainly charismatic people on complete opposite sides of the spectrum going head to head on tv. once you get past the superficiality of it, we have a debate over who is our enemy. i think joy and whoopi have a good point to say it's wrong to generalize and say our enemies are muslims. that's clearly an overgeneralization. i think they were right to be upset about it. at the same token, i think bill o'reilly has a good point. we are at war with radical islam. it is an ideology. we need to spell it out. we're not at war with radical japanese, as he said. it wasn't mormons. i think oh really has a point, that political correctness has run amuck and we're afraid to call this what it is. >> harold, it is a real point. of course, mayor bloomberg has led the charge in saying that the mosque or the cultural
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center should be put there. but if you look at the polls, the majority of new yorkers don't want it down there. >> one of the reasons that it is i think receded in terms of the volume and the attention around the issue is because of that. i think after the election, i wouldn't be surprised if president obama and mayor bloomberg -- i have no other information other than just watching it politically -- don't come together and try to reach some agreement with the builders and even with the larger community of us who would like to see a muslim center. it's really a culture center that will be built. we've lost the debate because we're talking about a mosque when in fact it's a cultural center that will celebrate christianity, judaism and islam. >> does bill o'reilly have a point, if you cut through the bluster and finger pointing that went on yesterday on both sides about political correctness? >> i don't think he has a point. two issues. one, i think he is correct that the polls show that 60% of people don't want the mosque down there. there are equal polls, about 60% of the people understand the
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constitution that they have the right to be there. if people understand why it should be there, they'll agree. i disagree with what he says about moderate muslims fighting the war on terrorism. there are moderate muslims in iraq, afghanistan, pakistan, who have fought and died alongside our soldiers trying to get rid of the taliban and extremists. they're the ones being most affected right now by taliban and the extremists. to dispute the fact they're out there fighting i think is absolutely wrong. >> in fact, the imam behind the past has been praised for being a good moderate voice. >> when you have bill oh rhymely on your show, you expect these things. that's what he does. there are muslims fighting in afghanistan and iraq who are wearing uniforms, united states army uniforms. hopefully, the issue is resolved sooner rather than later. alaska governor sarah palin is on a three-day swing through california that's partly promotional, partly political in a state slow to embrace her star
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power. yesterday she spoke to a receptive audience of conservatives in san jose urging voters to drop democrats in next month's elections. >> you remember the old line lead, follow or get out of the way. well, washington isn't leading us anywhere but towards that brink there, right towards the edge of the cliff. obama and boxer and pelosi and rooe, th and reid won't follow what the american people are telling them to do, trillions of dollars in deficit spending are proof of that. so let's respectfully suggest they get out of the way. >> later sarah palin went on to criticize the stimulus bill passed last year. >> still knowing what was in the stimulus package, some of the examples we have seen, where those dollars have gone, are just atrocious. now we even have the president finally admitting, oh, there's kind of no such thing as a shovel-ready project. yeah, yeah. now we know what it was that
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they were shoveling and it wasn't asphalt. >> i have a challenge for the viewers that would take us out of this debate because we are always getting banged around for being on this side or that side of an issue. so let's do the "rereport, you decide" thing here. you can send us an e-mail on this question. we're going to play again just that clip that you just saw and heard sarah palin. i want you to think about your answer as you watch the clip with regard to sarah palin's political future. are you prepared to listen to this tone of voice for four years? play the clip again. >> still knowing, though, that what was in that stimulus package, some of the examples we've seen, where those dollars have gone are just atrocious. now we even have the president finally admitting, there's kind of no such thing as a shovel-ready project.
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yeah, yeah. well now we know what it was they were shoveling and it wasn't asphalt. so what's the e mafl address here? >> i don't even know. joe@msnbc.com. >> people are going to attack you for focusing on cosmetic, talking about the tone of her voice. >> vocal tone or political tone. >> i'm talking about the actual tone of her voice. she's a nice person, god bless her, making a lot of money in this country. using her fame and celebrity to further her career. there's no argument about all of that. that's positive. i think instinctively there's a lot of people on the tone of her voice, not the content of what she says, the tone of her voice. do you want to listen to that for four years? >> you're not suggesting we should elect political leaders based on the tone of their voice sns. >> i think it's a factor when we vote for people. >> we've elected them on haircuts and height before? >> everything is a factor. people want to like the candidate.
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>> i'm for willie for president. >> you got the political tie and the height. >> matt lewis, do you vote based on tone of voice? >> barnicle makes a good point here in the sense that people vote -- you ask people, why did you vote for him? because i like his transportation policy. the truth is, some of these things do matter. i think, look, it is an issue. i think other female candidates have actually struggled with this. i think hillary clinton, for example, when you give a speech, there are certain parts of your inflection when you have to become maybe more argumentative. i think this is maybe something that palin's handers should work with her on. it's certainly not -- i think the line, by the way, was delivered brilliantly. i think it was a great line. i think she's actually becoming more comfortable and becoming a better speaker. certainly it's not the reason we should vote for her against somebody. i think it's a legitimate question. >> i can almost hear governor palin typing the tweet right now
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about the lame media focusing on the tone of her voice. >> another clip from sarah palin last night. she took a little dig at michelle obama alluding to comments the first lady made on the campaign trail in 2008 where she said, quote, for the first time in my life, i am proud of my country." here is how palin characterized that yesterday. >> when i hear people say or had said during the campaign they had never been proud of america until that time, i thought haven't they met anybody in uniform yet? >> 2008 is the original clip. let's listen to what the first lady said and compare it to the way it was characterized. >> for the first time in my adult lifetime, i'm really proud of my country, and not just because barack has done well, but because i think people are hungry for change. >> i think the first lady later regretted saying what she said.
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>> his father worked not only for her, for his family, for her going to princeton. i think she understands and her family understands what it is to be mayor canned how much she knows that the president's story could happen only in america. governor palin knows that. sarah palin's story can only happen -- >> carl stokes was elected the first black mayor of a major city in cleveland, he finally said i finally understand the meaning of the words god bless america. i don't think it's unusual to grow up and find out things about your country and wonder about where it is and how it can be like that and rediscover this is the land of opportunity and only in a country like this can anyone really achieve many of the things we have where you rediscover your belief, your faith, your hope in this country for yourself and your kids. i'm not freaked out by that comment. >> i heard it said just this
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morning that he was happy he was an american. >> what a country. >> what's wrong with rediscovering it as opposed to even challenging some of these things. >> because she didn't say she rediscovered it. she said she discovered it. >> she talks about her adult life. when i'm kid, i don't question anything. i don't question anything. you grow up and start questioning things. how did my parents go through those things? then you get older and go, that was the past and i am proud of my country and glad to be in this country. i think it's a matter of perspective. i don't think sarah palin necessarily has that perspective of rediscovering. >> matt lewis, before we let you go, any thoughts? >> i'm outraged and i'm going to walk off. it's clear sarah palin has a different world view, different background than michelle obama. to discover in your 40s that america is actually a great country, this is a bad thing. this is problematic. i think it reenforces a narrative that frankly has
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plagued liberals for many years, that they actual don't li don't believe in american exceptionism. they don't believe this is a great country. it is a great country. you can show up here and be an immigrant. your dad could be a janitor and you could be a united states senator. we need to elect americans i think. and this is what sarah palin i believe would say who believe in american exceptionism and proud of this country, not just when their husband becomes president. >> matt lewis of politics daily. thanks so much for being here. we were talking to condi rice yesterday, coming from the segregated birmingham of the 60s to secretary of state. >> her and joe actually root for the same football team. >> isn't that weird? >> that's america. that's america at its best. coming up, it was billed as fight night in las vegas, but was it? why did sharron angle tell harry reid to, quote, man up, in their first and final debate.
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our good friend digger phelps will join us. can't waited to talk to digger. first here is bill karins with a check on the forecast. good morning. all the eyes on northern new england, central new england. we've already cleared out in new york city, philly, d.c. the rain is over for you. the wind will be the issue. at the airports, all the planes are green, no delays yet. later this afternoon the winds will increase and i think we will have considerable delays. the green on the map, notice it's exiting areas. burlington and up through all portions of new hampshire. now, by about noon today, the storm really peaks in intensity, the winds will crank out of the northwest. that will be what will get your attention as you're heading home from work or school. right now the winds are about 20 miles per hour, 33 in boston. later today around 40 to 50 miles per hour. they'll be down of what they are currently. the forecast wind gusts, usually if you get winds of over 40 miles per hour, you get small
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tree branches coming down, minor power outages. i don't think we'll have to deal too much in the way of big trees coming down. the winds will get your attention. the forecast goes like this, temperatures are cool. the rain will be exiting during the day. and we will be watching the wind increasing. by the way, the rest of the country looks fantastic on this friday. much of the country, even on saturday looks really, really nice. updates during the day today on our nor'easter. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. [ female announcer ] when you save an average of over $450 a year
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hates it when the yankees win. we can't get enough of it. win 50 of them, what do we care? but everybody is now saying the qulan keys may be too old. in minnesota i thought the twins might win because the yankees are old. their pitching is oldie guess is the problem. have you seen the starting rotation. take a look. are they too old? >> welcome back to "morning joe." it's 7:20. i'm willie geist. mika is off today. joe is with his factr in florida. i want to turn to politics now. virtually tied in recent polls, senate majority read harry reid and republican challenger sharron angle went head to head in their first and only scheduled debate. nbc's kelly o'donnell is following the race and joins us now from washington. good morning, kelly. >> hey, willie. first and only is really important here. this is a race that really says so much about the whole year. you've got harry reid trying to go for his fifth term. most powerful democrat in the senate. we have sharron angle, we didn't
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know anything about her months ago. she is trying to prove a tea party candidate, a real outsider can topple the biggest name in the senate among democrats. that's a tall order. what also is different about this is most of the debates we've watched this year have a studio audience, candidates meet again and again, but not this time. it was so hard to get these two together that they only would agree to a tv studio, no audience. as you'll see, plenty of tension. >> i'll just say, there you go again. >> the most unpredictable political outsider. >> i live in a middle class neighborhood in reno, nevada. senator reid lives in the ritz-carlton in washington, d.c. >> the seasoned incouple bent. >> a grandmother and former teacher. sharron angle is a lightning rod of the tea party, unflinching against the senate's top democrat. >> man up, harry reid. you need to understand that we
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have a problem with social security. >> reporter: harry reid, a former amateur boxer is on the ropes, unpopular in nevada. >> harry reid has voted to give social security to illegal aliens. >> that is not the law in this country. she knows it and should stop saying it. >> obama-care is destroying our economy. >> reporter: reid hammered angle for opposing health care reform. she said health insurance companies should not be required to cover things like preventive care. >> she's against mammograms, colonosco colonoscopies. insurance companies cover kids that have autism. that's really extreme. >> reporter: when reid said insurance companies are pressured to act for programs like breast cancer awareness, there was an awkward exchange. >> that's why you see breast cancer awareness month. you see the baseball players wearing pink shoes and the football players having pink helmets. >> pink ribbons are not going to
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make people have a better insurance plan. >> reporter: angle was challenged on some controversial things she said. >> do you think the unemployed are spoiled. >> no, i don't think our unemployed are spoiled. >> reporter: reid and angle disagree on what a senator can do about the economy. >> my job is to create jobs. what she's talking about is extreme. >> once again, harry reid, it's not your job to create jobs. it's your job to create policies that create the confidence for the private sector to create those jobs. >> reporter: reid must do well among nevada's latino voters and has fought for immigration reform. >> we have to do something about the people that are here that are undocumented. have them pay taxes, pay penalties, fines. >> what we have here is an illegal alien problem. >> reporter: angle took a surprising personal shot at reid. >> how did you become so wealthy on a government payroll? >> that's really kind of a low blow. i'm disappointed she would suggest that. >> that really was quite a shot.
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reid, of course, went on to explain he had a legal career, made money doing that, invested well, and that he lives on that in addition to his senate salary and that affords him a comfortable lifestyle here. he really bristled at that. what was interesting is from what i could see, he never looked at sharron angle, never spoke about her by name, only referring to her as my opponent. and she, whereas you saw she turned at him, talked at him and took him on. there was a real way to see the tension of this race. it was quite something. will it make a difference? we'll have to see. it's one of the tightest, most important races we're watching. >> kelly o'donnell, thanks so much. harold, why is it so tight? >> what was so interesting about it is -- i think one of the things that my friends in washington have to understand, as kelly made the point how sharron angle looked over at harry reid and harry reid didn't look back. i'm for harry reid and giving money to him, full disclosure. middle class people and ordinary americans, they want to take their politicians on. they want to know answers to
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these questions. she i thought somewhat effectively, if not inelegantly took him on in that regard. i think that's the feeling of a lot of people who lost their homes rnlgs a lot of people who lost equity on their homes, a lot of people who have lost their jobs. i thought senator reid was -- at the beginning of the show, on one of the breaks, this race will boil down to turnout. if democrats are able to generate -- if we generate the same turnout in 2008, we'll keep the seats. if we're able to generate a big percentage of that, particularly black and latino voters across the country, particularly in nevada, harry reid will survive. remember, he's always had close race es. this guy has never been a run-away winner. he'll beat john ensign by a
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couple hundred votes. he's a former boxer. she was effective in taking him on. she didn't look out of place doing that. the question for voters in nevada is do you want to give up the majority leader's post for someone who is not necessarily very experienced. frankly would end up number 100 in the senate versus number one. that's a decision voters in nevada will have to make. i believe they'll make the decision they want the number one guy there. >> how much is this about harry reid the man and not just throw the bums out in washington? >> i don't know. i don't live in nevada. if i'm living in nevada i have four choices, reid, angle, none of the above or stay at home. i suspect stay at home and none of the above are going to win that senate race. i don't know who will win it, sharron angle or harry reid. harold is absolutely right. harry reid trying to answer the question how he made so much money, i'm very disappointed you ask that. people aren't disappointed in her asking that.
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they want an answer. if he made such wide investments, why didn't you share your investment advice with the people of nevada. >> i agree with barnicle. coming up next, what does a chilean miner, a love triangle and streaking for cash. what do those things have in common? they're all next on the week in review. ♪
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joe." it's 7:30 a.m. here in new york city. it is windy in new york. we had a lot of rain last night. now the wind, you can see the camera shaking at the top of rockefeller center. it was a busy week full of important news. at always, not one single bit of it appears in our top three stories of the week. >> have you chastised your chairman, pete wilson, who called the congress whores. >> at number three, whore gsh gate. someone inside the campaign for california's democratic gubernatorial candidate jerry brown was caught calling brown's opponent a whore on a phone he already thought was hung up. >> whitman will cut a deal i won't. >> she's a whore.
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>> meg whitman's campaign seized on the comment. >> have you chastised your chairman pete wilson who called the congress whores. >> that's a completely different thing. the fact you are defending your campaign. >> while some in the press balked at using the uncomfortable word, one brave journalist seemed to embrace it. >> don't call her a whore, a whore. i stayed on the nonwhore side of that line. >> slow down there joey s. you don't have to make up for everybody not saying whore. >> above all the ugliness in california though, one man stood this week as the biggest whore of all. >> "american freak show" is out today. the wait is over. >> at number two, we're going streaking through the quad. >> a new york man took a million dollar challenge from a british billionaire and streaked in front of president obama during a rally in philadelphia.
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wearing only the name of a website and a mean pair of love handles. the man got within shouting distance of the president before he was taken down by the secret service. >> dude, what are you doing? >> at the same rally obama went through the presidential right of passage of dodging a flying object. when someone chucked a book at him. the lengths to which some people will stoop to get attention for their books. disgusting. >> today is "american freak show" release day plus one president don't pick up a copy for me. do it for the chilean miners. by that i mean -- this isn't about me is the point. the number one story of the week. 33 miners trapped for more than two months underground in chile were rescued this week one by one as the news networks kept vigil with running tallies. >> pulled to fresh air and freedom. >> the unbelievable appears to be taking place. >> that is just a scene out of a
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movie. >> there's the money shot. >> the men who appeared based on video reports to be having an ungoing shirtless rave deep beneath the earth's surface emerged looking healthy, happy and ready to sign their endorsement deals. there was one miner, though, who took his sweet time coming out of the ground. yonni barrios, the man who found himself at the center of a love triangle was greeted with a hug by his mistress. his wife decided to stay home. the only consolation for the betrayed wife, she's getting a free signed copy of "american freak show." >> jerry brown just called me a whore and he's right. no shame. do we have copies of thebook out here?
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>> all sold. >> all sold in west port, connecticut. how was the train ride? >> oh, yeah. >> does the white house have a communication problem as suggested in the cover story of this weekend's "new york times" sunday magazine. we'll bring in former white house communication director anita dunn next on "morning joe."
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would happen all at once, the minute barack moved into the oval office, it would be done. the truth is it's going to take a lot longer to dig ourselves out of this hole than anyone would like. the truth is that this is the hard part. but remember -- because i know all of you all were there -- that's exactly what barack told us. and that's what we all told each other. >> that was michelle obama out on the campaign trail as the white house tries to convince people to keep democrats in power, many continue to criticize the obama administration for poorly communicating its vision. in this cover story for this sunday's "new york times" magazine, peter baker writes this, i hope ed rendell is the democrats who grade obama harshly for not being more nimble in the face of
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opposition, b plus, for substantive accomplishments and a d plus or c minus on communication. they lost the communications battle on both major initiatives and lost it early. we didn't use the president in either stimulus or health care until we had lost the spin battle. joining us from washington, former communications director for the obama administration anita dunn. good morning, anita. how are you? >> fine. how are you this morning? >> governor rendell this morning pretty harsh. what do you think? >> i think everyone who knows ed rendell and i've known him since the mid '80s know he doesn't mince words. that's certainly his opinion. i think it's always a popular past time to take shots at a white house communications office. as a former direct tore i'll obviously defend my colleagues there. here is the deal, right now we're in the middle, 2 1/2 weeks out from one of the most contested midterms we've seen in this country for a very long time. this is the third cycle in a row where you have a high degree of
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energy behind a change message. the real question that the president is out there defining, are we going to keep going forward with the change people voted for in 2008, put the middle class first or go back to policies that really did hurt the middle class over the next ten years? i think if you look at what's happened, if you look at the way the polls are tightening and democrats are starting to get energized and say this is what's at stake, you can see the president is a very effective communicator, really fraechling the issues. anita, nicolle wallace was here yesterday and talking about how easy it is to blame the communications shop when sometimes it's the policy in the white house. she was there during, of course, some of the tough times during the bush years when there was a lot of criticism about the iraq war and the communications shop was always blamed even though it was largely what was going on in the ground in iraq. do you think it's an unfair criticism to blame the communications people that maybe there is something the american people don't like about the policy? >> well, i think the american people don't like the fact that
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we're in the third year of a deep recession in this country, that middle class families over the last decade have lost ground, that they feel like the people in washington, so many people in washington aren't listening to them and they want an economy that works better for them and that they feel is going to give their children a better life than they have at the american dream. of course they're frustrated about it. that want to see some progress. we're starting to make it. but it's going to take time. now, nicole and i have talked about this. there's always obviously a tendency to say why did you let them write the story that way. as communications people, we live with that. the reality is it's a tough time for the american people. the president recognizes that. the president is addressing those issues and saying to the american people, we're going to unite and get out of this together and keep moving forward and make this country bork for the middle class again. that's the choice he's outlining on the stump. >> you know, anita, what you just said, this is unfortunately in many regards, this has become
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a country of the moment. 15, 20 years ago presidents might be able to talk about down the road things are going to get better. right now it's of the moment. so of the moment, i think there are a lot of people -- willie and i were up in west port, connecticut last night, and you bump into what i call buyers remorse on the part of more than a few people who voted for barack obama. they still like him, but they have remorse over the current situation, rising unemployment, more homes being lost, and the sense that in washington they don't know how to deal with it, not that they're not dealing with it. but they don't know how to deal with it. as communications director, how many people sit around a table in the white house each and every morning dealing with these things of the moment? >> well, there is an of the moment quality that's very real because there are people out there of the moment who are looking at losing their houses, who have lost their jobs or had their hours cut, who are worried
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about sending their kids to college. from a communications perspective, the important thing for the white house to do is to say to those people we get it, we understand what you're going through, and we're trying to address these issues. now, the white house has done a lot of sush stannive things as ed rendell pointed out. there's always a temptation to try to communicate too much. and then you end up communicating too little. i think that the of the moment piece of this -- we are a nation of the moment right now, is that people are hurting and they're frustrated and saying, listen to me. we want some help. and the president is going out there to say we've started, we realize there's a long way to go, but we've got to keep going down this road because if we go back, we're going back to the way that got you in the problem to begin with. it's a tough message, but it is the truth. at the end of the day, i think the american people respond to being treated like adults and being told the truth rather than being prom mills thad somehow there's a magic wand that can be
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waved that will fix their problems tomorrow. >> anita, john ridley here. i have a question for you. sarah palin was on the campaign trail and took a shot at michelle obama. is that a little off limits going after the first lady or does it make it fair because the first lady is out there campaigning. >> let's play the clip, anita and then let you respond. >> you know, when i hear people say or had said in the campaign they had never been proud of america until that time, i think haven't they met anybody in uniform yet? >> anita, she's bringing up what the first lady said in 2008 about the first time she was proud in her adult life to be an american. sarah palin misquoted her a little bit. is that a fair shot, or is it a little bit beyond the pale? >> i think it's a dumb shot. i was interested in the clip, that people even in her audience kind of booed when she said it. since sarah palin only talks to friendly audiences that tells you how much beyond the pale it
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was. michelle obama is a first lady who has made military families and launching a national campaign against childhood obesity her trademark issues. she is popular with people in both parties. as she travels the country, you don't see people attacking her. she really as first lady lifted up national challenges and challenged our nation to come together to meet them. i don't think it's smart politics for sarah palin. frankly, i don't think it's smart politics for the republican party to attack her. >> good morning, anita. harold ford. there's been some sense rightly or wrongly that the relationship between the white house and the booeder business community have been improved. there have been those suggesting the reset button might be pushed the beginning of next year. is that a sense you get will happen on the part of the white house? will the communications change or the substance change? do you see the problem as being one or the other or not a
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problem at all? >> well, no. i think it's undeniable that at a time when the american business community is spending $150 million or so ridiculously large sum of money in undisclosed spending against the democratic party in these midterm elections, obviously, hey, what we have here is a tail your to communicate. but i think that -- obviously wall street, $132 billion this year and saying the president's policies have hurt us. here is the thing though. i think it has to be a meeting of both sides. i think clearly the communication can be better. i also think people need to take a step back and look at the policies the president has pushed and say what has been so bad? the reality is that the economy was on the brink of collapse. it has come back. it's taking a while. but i think they're looking for a degree of communication and
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also a degree of predictability in the house. and the white house is looking for businesses to start investing again. i think after the midterm election ever boddi needs to sit down and say, okay, let's have a conversation. >> a lot of business people will look forward to that conversation. >> i think the white house will, too. up next, susan axelrod and bloomberg's margaret carlson standing by for us in the griin green room and then digger phelps is fired up. >> always fired up about something. >> we'll be right back. how are those flat rate boxes working out?
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seizures and destruction to her brain caused us to think like, what is going on and why -- why can't we find some answer to this problem? looking around found that really, you know, many, many people have seizures and epilepsy, over 3 million in this country, alone, 50 million worldwide. of those people, fully a third to a half don't have seizure control. this is a disease that's been around since biblical times. so we started looking to the research that was going on and found that it was pretty paltry. so cure is -- was founded and is all about research in epilepsy and really trying to transform the agenda and create new directions for the research and raise funds. >> you had a big event here in new york. mayor bloomberg was there. and mike, you're very involved in this cause. you'll be in boston tonight doing the same. >> yeah. what we find out is what susan just articulated, we have a daughter who has suffered
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seizure disorder for quite some time and the more you find out, what you really find out is how much we don't know about the brain and what the next step might be. and it's a long trail to be on, but thanks to, you know, susan and people like her, there's some progress being made. >> margaret, how'd you get involved? >> well, you know in politics how you meet somebody you really admire and you want to go to work for? occasionally happens to you, mike, along the way, right? well, i met susan axelrod, you know, in the course of the campaign. and my -- i'm the guardian of my older brother, because my parents died, so i stepped in to a world i knew nothing about. and i had never knew, really understood my parents' sorrow until it became my own. so susan has given me the privilege of trying to do something. so we got mayor bloomberg last night and the mayor, you know, he's a quick study.
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he's an engineer, he wants to know the facts. and he knows the facts and it's really inspired him to want to help. it's a great thing. >> susan, is there the federal support that you think is needed for this type of research? >> well, it's a very exciting time, because there actually are some brand-new and bold and creative initiatives going on at the national institutes of health, really some cutting edge kinds of ideas about bringing people from different disciplines together in a multi-institutional type of way and really looking at this from new directions. and also the cdc is starting to get involved. one of the problems is we really don't have accurate figures on how many people are impacted. and those of us who work in this -- just at the event last night, the numbers of people who came out and turns out they have a connection to it, they haven't really come out about it. so the cdc is going to hopefully doing some new surveillance of the problem. so, i think -- and it is
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something that affects -- i think a lot of people believe it really only affects people in childhood, but that's not really actually the fastest new onset of epilepsy occurring in senior citizens as a result of stroke and brain tumor and then we have the whole population of our veterans and those people will be -- >> and it's a fatal disease. is it 60,000 a year? >> 60,000 people. >> in my brother's case, it took one seizure to damage him forever. and so it wasn't fatal, but it was crippling forever. and you don't know when it's coming, because you don't know ahead of time. and that's one of the -- it's an area of research where they don't know the mechanisms. so there's not, like, you can't look and see and then go on medication. it strikes without were knowing. >> you're sort of chasing seizures all the time without really understanding why they're happening.
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it's -- yeah. >> well, a lot of people are grateful for the work you're doing. so keep it up. and mike barnicle will be at the event in boston tonight. again, the organization is cure -- >> and it was fun, mike. the dinner was great fun. >> plus we doubled our research budget for the year in these two nights. >> see, put barnicle's name on an invitation, boom, see what happens. you can find out more about cure at cureepilepsy.org. find out how you can get involved and help out. thank you so much, susan, margaret, thank you both so much. up next, bill o'reilly's yelling match on "the view" and why two of the hosts walked out on live television. expert analysis from dillylan ratigan? he's going to the analyze this? look forward to that, that's next. etire? ♪ client comes in and they have a box. and inside that box is their financial life. people wake up and realize i better start doing something.
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they act like they're permanent residents of some unicorn ranch in fantasyland. if they really think that they're going to be able to turn it around with the liberal policies that they want to continue, and, you know, pixie dust, that's right. another thing about california, you guys aren't afraid to call it like you see it, to help me out here, interjecting all these wonderful sound bites wit s wibg to write them on the palm of my hand and start using them later on. watch. the next time you hear me,
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you'll hear the term pixy dust and you'll know where it came from. >> sarah palin campaigning in california yesterday. welcome back to "morning joe," it's 8:00 in the morning here in new york city. the weather's clearing up for us this weekend. good to have you with us on a friday morning. mike barnicle still here, john ridley, screenwriter, activist. >> may i just say very quickly that in the last hour, i implied that i often dined on unicorn meat. i want to say who all the people who e-mailed, nothing could be further from the truth. i apologize on behalf of myself and my family. we're staying in this race, skiing it to the eski ing it to the end. >> let's just be clear, you raise unicorns, don't eat them. >> it's more of a habitat. they're junivery hard to care f. occasionally some don't make it, wind up on a dinner table. >> you've got a big heart. >> it happens. >> norah's here with us, kind of bouncing back between different shows all morning. and of course, the host and star
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of the dylan ratigan show, 4:00 p.m. eastern time on msnbc, dylan ratigan. >> good morning. >> how's that freak show going? >> i think you're watching it right before your eyes. >> the freak show seems to be in full swing. >> dylan made the point, there's really not a need to read my book when you turn on the tv every day and watch my freak show. >> why do i need to read anything? just go on the internet. >> just buy the book. dylan -- >> we want his analysis about "the view". >> we'll do "the view" real quick. >> i'll do "the view". >> all right. we begin with the now-famous walkout on "the view," where whoopi and joy left the live show in protest of bill o'reilly's comments on muslims. here's nbc's peter alexander and the wild tv moment and how the debate continued on their prime-time shows. >> please welcome bill o'reilly. >> reporter: it all started when "the view's" hot topics boiled over. >> but it's inappropriate,
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because a lot of the 9/11 families, who i know, say, look, we don't want that. >> but this is america. >> hold it, hold it. listen to me, because you'll learn, all right. >> the audience wasn't impressed and o'reilly wasn't finished. >> at least 70% of americans don't want that mosque down there, so don't give me the "we" business. >> where's that poll? i want to see that poll. >> you wanna bet on that? >> because it's inappropriate! >> why is it inappropriate? >> muslims killed us on 9/11. >> no! oh, my god! that is such [ bleep ]! >> muslims didn't kill us on 9/11? >> reporter: outraged both whoopi goldberg and joy behar stormed off the set, leaving their co-hosts and guests behind. barbara walters, the show's creator was critical of behar's and goldberg's actions. >> you have just seen what should not happen. we should be able to have discussions without washing our hands and screaming and walking
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offstage. >> reporter: but then walters took on o'reilly. now, let me just say to you, in a calmer voice. >> sure. >> it was extremists. you cannot take a whole religion and demean them. you should apologize. >> you've got to make a decision, bill. >> if anyone thought that i was demeaning all muslims -- >> bill o'reilly is a fire brand on the right, joy behar is a fire brand on the left. the whole point of putting them on a couch together is to make sparks fly. >> reporter: after o'reilly's apology, goldberg and behar finally returned. >> no one i know, no one wants to insult muslims. >> reporter: but the drama continued on cable tv. >> i enjoy jousting with "the view" ladies, because with the exception of elisabeth hasselbeck, they don't see it my way and i want their viewers to see both sides. >> i thought o'reilly was saying
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something i construe as hate speech, frankly. >> reporter: the latest round in what's already an angry national debate. >> peter alexander reporting. norah, you say, good for whoopi and joy for walking out in the middle of that. why do you say that? >> well, i support the women walking off, because they didn't feel like it was a debate. i think they felt like they were being bullied by o'reilly. i support whoopi and joy. >> dylan? >> for me, i guess what i would say is there's a core issue here, and that is there is a small group of well-funded extremists funded by the saudi arabian government to whom we give money. you invite me on the show, this is what's going to happen. american oil money and american guns, to the saudi arabian government. those guns, that money, to extremists in saudi arabia. s the only ones who have ever killed us -- them. we are not at war with islam. we are not at war with muslims, we are not at war with afghanistan, we are not at war
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with iraq, iran -- it's nonsense. yes, they hold signs, "i hate america." have you seen the signs we hold? the only people who have ever funded a terrorist attack out of that part of the world on us, on your colleagues and your colleagues and your colleagues ten years ago, nine years ago was this wahabi sect. and it is an extraordinary failure of our politicians and our media and our anybody else who has an opportunity to communicate information to fail to make that distinction, because to the fail to make that distinction is to risk a scale of conflict and a scale of disenfranchisement and alienation on this planet that may be convenient for tv ratings and votes, but is an abomination for the human beings who populate this country and is a lie. >> you have referenced to my mind the most valid point that bill o'reilly made. and it is, in the wake of everything that has occurred around the world, since
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september 11th, and before september 11th, the leadership of the muslim world has remained uniquely silent about what has happened. >> yes. >> you get no in cyclical from the muslim world -- >> think about the dynamic in the muslim world. in the muslim world, you have different factions that are trying retain their power and that includes factions that do not want to see saudi strength rise or see iranian strength rise and see iranian strength is something that can be balanced through other forces, but that's besides the point, in my opinion, which is that whether it's leadership in the middle east or leadership in america, the failure to make a distinction between the wahabi sect that is funded through saudi money and all other islam, period, i don't care whether it's islams that are angry saying, "i hate americans," go
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to ground zero, go to florida, i'll show you some signs. since when are we going to go to war over a sign? >> to that argument, you can say any group that's trying to protect themselveses is always uniquely silent. you can say that about the catholic church, was uniquely silent when they needed to be. we talked about this in the last three hours, two of the hours i was awake for. but dylan, you make the on the about ratings, it's bill o'reilly going on "the view" to talk about this so they can go back to their respective shows and talk about it. even us. we talk about it, but it's this unique echosphere where we're just feeding each other and nobody's -- oprah's going on the daily show with colbert. it's just us talking about us talking about us. >> but there's a real issue, which is that the information distortion and the fearmongering and the amount of money and the amount of power that can be accumulated in this country and other countries through the distortion and exploitation of religious fear and racial fear
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in exchange for having decent, honest exchange of real information, which you know what, most muslims don't even care about you. and the vast majorities of the ones that don't like you don't like you from the couch and there aren't that many of them. and the ones that want to kill you are about this many and it's not because they're muslim, it's because they've been radicalized. it is not the fact that they are muslims that make them terrorists, it's the fact that they are terrorists that make them terrorists. that's a massive distinction that has been uniformly not made in this country, because i think it strikes to the cognitive dissonance of these huge wars. if we're not at war with islam, someone tell me why we're a few trillion dollars up and a few thousand dead soldiers in these countries. i thought we were at war with islam. if we're just at war with a narrow group of well-funded,
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well-organized extremists out of saudi arabia and that region, can someone please explain -- tough to explain the policies in that context. if we're at war with islam, at war with the muslims, my goodness, there's got to be ten more countries we've got to go to war, right? >> it is an obscene concept and it's shameful, to me, that anybody from the president down doesn't make an extraordinarily strong distinction between those two things. >> let's have some of that coffee that you're wearing. >> american freak show over here. >> see what this book does to the people. >> you read this thing -- this is from "american freak show," the hottest book on amazon right now, the completely fabricated stories of our -- >> this is calvin coolidge. this is what obama said the first day he was in the office. do you have an obama quote in here. this would work for him. calvin coolidge, "oh, great, i'm president. i did not sign up for this
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blank." is there a censor on here. "i'm not a people person at all, i'm so pissed right now." but the reelt ality is, these a people, and the nice thing about your book, it shows -- >> not since hall holbrooke was doing a one-man show as a dramatic reading -- dylan ratigan is willie geist in "american freak show." >> that was from the white house diaries. >> one more quote for you. woodrow wilson, august 18th, to all the ladies in the house after he was elected, "let's not forget who got you the vote today, you're welcome, girls." he did. >> did he? >> okay. i'm getting the cue from the control room -- >> to make me stop? >> yeah. >> no. why? it's great. president obama -- let's get some news in here. president obama is continuing
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his push to energize the youth vote before the midterm elections. yesterday the president held a live town hall that aired on mtv, bet, and willie's favorite network, cmt, in which he stepped up his attack on republicans for allegedly using foreign money in campaign ads. >> if you're in a battleground state, you're being bombarded with negative ads every single day and nobody knows who's paying for these ads. they've got these names like americans for prosperity or moms for motherhood or -- actually, that last one i made up. but you have these the innocuous sounding names and we don't know where this money's coming from. i think that is a problem for our democracy. >> the president was also asked to defend his economic record by one young voter. >> if the economy does not improve over the next two years, why should we vote you back in? >> most of the 8 million jobs that we lost during this
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recession were lost before my economic policies were even put into place. as a consequence of the recovery act that we put into place, there is no doubt that 3 million evacuates are working now that would not otherwise be working. whereas the economy was contracting where i came into office. it's now growing. >> we now take a break from the news that you've been watching for another reading from the classic "american freak show." >> thank you so much, michael. one thing i noticed since i've been reading this book is that the history of smears and the unfounded smear -- the witch, the marxist or the ghost, whatever -- so this is the original smear. january 1st, 1913, william h. taft, again, i reference willie geist, "american freak show." "it's been a heck of a ride here in the white house," said president taft, "but i did not get stuck in the goddamned
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bathtub. it's an ugly smear spread by opponents who would rather focus on mying weight than on the issues." >> he was our fattest president. >> "could i lose a few pounds? sure. could i stand to strip a few trips to the buffet? of course. but does that mean i get stuck in bathtubs? absolutely not." thank you, willie. >> a reading from the book of "american freak show" by dylan ratigan. >> i'm telling you, if you guys don't rent a theater, you're missing an opportunity of a lifetime. >> well read. >> thank you. >> that story -- we need to get doris kearns goodwin. did taft really get stuck in the bathtub or not? he says no. >> "i did not get stuck in the goddamned bathtub."
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does that mean i get stuck in bathtubs, absolutely not. >> it goes all the way back. a century old. >> i'm not a witch. >> dylan, we should have had you on all morning. >> it's okay. i think it's better in small doses. >> amen, brother. >> self-awareness. >> another reading after the break. plus, an exclusive first look at the "politico playbook." also, wall street got its bailout, so why is there still unfinished business in new orleans? we'll bring in digger phelps, he's fired up and looking for answers this morning. but first, here's bill karins with a check on the weekend forecast. hey, bill. >> hey, willie, what do you think the odds are they'll let joe and mika take off on the same day ever again? >> it's over. >> it's over. yep, let the kids play for one more day. let's take a look at the forecast. we have that nor'easter heading up through northern new england. the airports are doing just fine, though. this is our little break. we had the rain, then we'll get
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a break, and the winds will pick up the rest of the day. i think we will see some airport delays later. on the weather map here, the green is the heavy rain, it's now north of the mass pike. we're really talking vermont, new hampshire, and maybe even boston. the rain is starting to let up a little bit. here's a closer view of that radar. new york city, you're dry for the rest of today. albany, on and off showers today. later tonight, snow in the higher elevations of the mourns mountains of vermont. the big deal today, the wind. wind predictions, pretty impressive. winds gusting up to 50 miles per hour in many of the big cities. new york and philly, more or less 40 or 50 miles per hour. that may do a little damage, sporadic power outages. but overall, the forecast around the country looks good. once the storm exits, all the beautiful weather in the middle of nation will slide to the east. so many people will enjoy just a beautiful friday and saturday. what a great fall it's been so far in much of the deep south. enjoy it if you can. you're watching "morning joe," brewed by starbucks. [ female announcer ] stay once...
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>> oh, man, that's good stuff. steven colbert offering everyone a free bus to washington. but now let's take a look at the morning papers before more readings with dylan. "the new york times," shows the first lady michelle obama voting early in her hometown of chicago. >> and "the wall street journal," the democratic party has come up short and leaves the campaign more dependent on labor unions. >> "the detroit news," general motors is planning to boost early production of the highly anticipated plug-in volt which rolls into showrooms later this year. >> and the anchora"anchorage da new news", lisa murkowski received a major boost from corporate donors who donated $800,000 this week to support the write-in senate candidate. and with us now, chief correspondent for politico, mike allen, who's here with the morning playbook.
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and mike, happy friday. >> happy friday to you. >> and the president today and vice president, a joint appearance for the democratic senate candidate, i should say, chris coons, who's run against christine o'donnell. why are they both going to delaware? are they worried? >> they're not worried at all. this is almost a sure win for democrats, so the white house wants to ensure that they get credit for it, bring up that win/loss percentage, because you well know when all is said and done, the press is going to look at where the president appeared and see what the effect is. so by having the president and vice president there today, they're planting their flag, saying, we were a part of this vaer victory. and because it's the vice president's home state, he wants to get a little credit for his son. and on sunday the president will be making his first joint political appearance with the first lady since 2008.
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>> with michelle obama, that's right, in the state of ohio. >> that's right. and we'll see the president out focusing on democrats, getting up democratic turnout, reminding people why they liked him in 2008 and focusing on those new voters, the so-called obama babies. people who voted for him. he's out there saying, i need help finishing the job. >> and mike, you have a development in this campaign ad against governor joe manchin, the one where the casting call asked for, "hickey actors," you broke the story. who's getting blamed now? >> well, the ad production house has been fired now by the senate republicans. they say that the ad house lied to them when they were confronted with this description, which obviously was offensive to people in west virginia and gave the democrats their -- some real ammunition. it seems to be helping. the democratic candidate there, governor joe manchin, up ten points this morning in a poll over the republican, raese. that's the biggest lead manchin
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has had in a while. democrats thought that he was safe, it looked dangerous, now maybe they can breathe easier again in that state. >> looks like joe manchin's benefitted in many ways from that, as well as his new ad where he takes a shotgun and fires it at the president's energy bill, right? yeah, he's trying to make the point raese doesn't get us, he's from florida, and has helped democrats push that narrative. >> mike, finally, i was reading your playbook that just came out. you've got a prediction about the house and senate contests? >> we do. we think that at the moment, if the election were held today, as they say, republicans would get a majority in the house. they need 40 seats. we figured they would get about 45 today. now, that could be very much in flux, either way. the people who know these races best tell us that the house races, you're not going to be able to tell until the last week's senate races maybe clear a little sooner. in the senate, we project that at this moment, republicans were
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to fall short, six, seven, eight of the ten seats they would need. there would have to be a big change in the climate, the tidal wave would have to turn to a tsunami for the republicans to get the senate at this moment. >> i love it. happy friday, mike. >> happy weekend. take care. coming up, a check on business before the bell with cnbc's erin burnett. ections to . pearblossom highway? it's just outside of lancaster. sure, i can download directions for you now. we got it. thank you very much! onstar ready. call home. hi, daddy! i'm on my way. send to car and...done! you have one saved destination: dillon beach. would you like those directions now? yes, i would. go north on route 1. check it out. i can like, see everything that's going on with the car. here's the gas level. i can check on the oil. i can unlock it from anywhere. i've received a signal there was a crash. some guy just cut me off. i'll get an ambulance to you right away. looks like our check engine light's on. can you do a diagnostic check for us?
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we can -- you know, the cameras are still down there. i said, let's see what's going on now, because all of the activity, all of the excitement, thank god, is finished. they said, sure, we have a live feed. punch that up. here's what's going on down there in the mine right this very second. take a look. there it is. oh, look. just freshening it up a little bit. yeah. >> you got to love dave. well, there's a lot going on in the world of business today. ben bernanke is speaking about the economy right now in boston. the chevy volt is exploding out of showrooms everywhere. and dylan ratigan is right here. but let's go to erin burnett life at the new york stock exchange. >> you saw ben bernanke speaking live right there. this is the most important thing for markets here, markets in shanghai, markets in london. this is what matters today. and what he's basically laying out is his case for why, because the economy is not growing quickly enough, it is viewed the
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fed needs to do more. now, doing more at this point means they have to do something sort of unusual, because interest rates are already zero. so he's laying out the case for what we call quantitative easing, qe2. that means the fed prints money to go out and buy things like mortgages and the goal there is to keep rates incredibly low for all kinds of borrowing, including mortgages. the main case he's making is in doing this, in printing all this money, he's not unleashing giant fears of inflation and having too much money flooding the system. obviously, the more dollars you have, the less each one may be worth. so he's inflation is too low, these are his words, which is a big statement, meaning he'll be focused on putting more money in the system to lower unemployment. by the way, guys, we had some numbers crossing right as he was speak on consumer prices. there was a risk those were going to come in hot and make him look stupid, but they didn't. we have absolutely zero change in prices for consumers and average earnings actually fell
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for americans last month. that sort of gives him a little bit of credence for this. and now the markets are rallying on this. obviously, there's lots of risk, but it's expected he'll announce how much money the fed's going to put in the system on november 3rd. but today he's making his case and that's the big story. >> okay. the only thing thatly add to th that, and erin, i'm sure you've been watching this, it's been interesting as bernanke and the government try to print more money to watch the financial players, the more sophisticated ones, how aggressively they have moved out of any financial asset and moved into gold, copper, palladium, all the metals, all the soft commodities, even pimco, which you would think would want to be owning treasuries when you understand that the government is going to be buying more of them. pimco, was it yesterday or the day before saying, we don't even want to own treasuries. the market is saying, at least through my view, that they're fairly skeptical -- not whether
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bernanke has to do this or not, but a certain degree of skepticism how effective or how much worth less the dollar is going to become. jo john paulson is going around giving a speech around new york talking about gold and talking about why he owns as much gold as he does. and his basic premise is however much money exists in the world, if you pile up $50 trillion or how much the money is, that has to equal how much gold there is, but we're not creating nearly as much gold as we're creating money, so by definition, this is his argument, as they print money, gold, by definition, goes up in value. and to tie a ribbon on the whole thing, the gold in copiapo, gold. >> you know what's interesting to me like an illiterate like me, bernanke speaks, the market reacts, it goes down in certain sectors, and it's very annoying for the average person to see these things play out.
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>> this is interesting. our fed led by ben bernanke is the only fed in the world that has two jobs. most feds have one job, that is to fight inflation and make sure their currency doesn't become too weak. but our fed has another job, which is to also keep unemployment employee. they're the only fed that technically has that as a responsibility. he says he's going whole hog on it. but, mike, a couple of minutes ago, he said, well, it's going to take a really long time for unemployment to come down. to dylan's point, we have already put $1.5 trillion in the system with buying mortgages and those things. we're looking at this relative to a economy that's somewhere around $14, $13 trillion. this is a huge amount of money and your marginal return on that money has been dropping. there's certainly no question about that. dylan, you'll like this, by the way. speaking of gold, goldman sachs today came out in part because of what the fed is doing and they said they are doubling their expectation for how much money you can make in the next 12 months if you invest in gold to 30%. these are stunning numbers. >> if you look at the paulson
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argument, this is not rocket science. you create a pile of how much money exists on the earth, you make it equal to the amount of gold that exists on the earth. if you're creating a lot more money but not creating a lot more gold, gold has to do this by mathematical definition. how long it lasts, there's a debate about its validity as a currency, what are you going to do with it? but for the time being, the argument goldman sachs and others are making is very rational to a central bank that's printing money. >> i want gold bars on the dylan ratigan show at 4:00. i want gold bars and cash. >> and freak shows. >> and freak shows. >> erin, thank you very much for putting up with us this morning. and have a nice weekend. >> you too, guys. >> erin, you've got to pick up this book, "american freak show" by willie geist, seriously, over the weekend. >> i have one, but i'm waiting to get it signed. i would hope that i, you know, maybe -- possibly. >> we can take care of that. you know who we've got coming up next? >> one of the all-time greats, digger phelps live down in new
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a lot of these problems have been gong on since katrina happened. people understandably feel impatient. on the other hand, these things were not all going to be fixed tomorrow. i wish i could just write a check, you know -- you say why not? well, there's this whole thing about the constitution and congress. >> well, that was president obama in his first presidential trip to new orleans back in 2009. he said he couldn't write a check to fix the city ravaged by hurricane katrina in just a day, but five years later, we want to know how much is really getting done. so we turn to a guy who has devoted a huge part of his life to trying to help the city of new orleans. our old friend, digger phelps. digger, my friend, let me ask you a question based upon something i read a couple of days ago. and it was the amount of money, millions of dollars being spent
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in helmand province, afghanistan, and in and around kabul to build schools and health clinics for afghans. tell me about charity hospital in new orleans. is that up and running? >> no, it's not, mike. and that's sad, because the question to president obama was, where's our $400 million to get charity hospital back on its feet and get it going? because it's still, in five years, not a full-service hospital in new orleans. and when president obama came back this fall or labor day weekend, the fifth anniversary of katrina, people thought maybe then he was going to make it happen. i don't know why it wasn't part of that first stimulus bill that went out, where aig paid $400 billion, or this health care plan that just went in, why wasn't it one of the first things in that health care to take care of our brother and sisters in new orleans and give charity hospital the $400 million so they have a full-service hospital in new orleans, mike. >> you know, digger, in the
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years since the hospital, there's really, i don't think any way we can assess the number of lives that have been lost since the hurricanes, lives lost to addiction, lives lost to incarceration, lives lost to hopelessness. we were, and you were there, last year, we were at the john mcdunna school in new orleans where you heroically and unbelievably got a company in the midwest to build -- to give them a new floor for their gymnasium. and that school sort of symbolizes a lot about what's happening in new orleans. so, again, the question to you is what's going on at the mcdonough high school and what are the plans to continue to improve that school and others? >> well, mike, there's a five-year plan right now. it's called the recovery school districts. and what they're trying to do is come up with a plan to get certain schools back in shape so they can be educational institutions. but my argument has always been, as we saw at john mcdonough, new orleans to me has a great opportunity when it comes to
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culinary. you know this and i know this, one of the great cities is new orleans that can cater to people. i think it is a sleeping giant where it should have a culinary high school in place now. yesterday i went to what was known as a public hearing where the state school board and the orleans parish school board were together with some 1,000 people. there were 85 speakers. i happened to be one of those speakers and all i said was, look, whatever's going on, with your charter schools, non-charter schools, can you just give me one high school that we can make a culinary high school to show these kids that you can get a job coming out of high school with a culinary arts degree in a restaurant in new orleans or around this country or around this world or even go on to the culinary institute of america in poughkeepsie, new york, or even out in napa. and fortunately, i got some things moving in this direction.
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tomorrow morning we'll meet with a guy named paul vals, the guy in charge of the rsd program. yes, the u.s. senator was there yesterday. her name is mary landrieu. her brother is the mayor now of new orleans. i think people know and understand what we're trying to do to get this city a culinary high school so that these kids can move on and get an education. and you don't have to be an electrical engineer. buck a chef and get it done. from that standpoint, i just feel that now, with the louisiana restaurant's association, who i'm meeting with today, and a guy like tommy santanovich who runs drago's, or even our guy, emeril, who wants to be involved, we can find the people to put together the right curriculum and have the facilities done by a company in this country that wants to build a state of the art kitchen so that new orleans can have a top of the notch as you look out this world, one of the great high school programs that teaches kids how to get a high
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school education in culinary arts. >> john ridley? >> mr. phelps, john ridley. i think a lot of people see, like the saints win the super bowl, and they just assume, hey, the city's back, it's all good. explain for a lot of people like me, what is the city like right now and what are the urgent needs years later that still need to be addressed in new orleans? >> well, one thing, people have jobs, they still don't have homes. that's why i decided once i saw katrina, i built two homes with my own money and other people who donated money to me for the second house, which were given to the collins family as well as the elders family. hay do community service work, give back to the community. they didn't have a place to live. there are still a lot of families like that in new orleans who don't have their own home yet. that's the first need. the second need is, we've got to get these schools back on track. it's been five years since katrina and they're still going back and forth with politics and what's right, what's wrong, yet the kids suffer. the third need, to me, has got to be a full service hospital.
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it's ridiculous when you take a look at what's going on around the world, and yeah, we saw chile come together as a nation and got even a drill team from the united states to go down there and get those 33 people out. well, this is new orleans. january 12th, when we saw what happened in haiti with the earthquake, everybody runs to haiti, but we forget our brothers and sisters in new orleans and our own country. and i'm just determined to say, hey, wait a second, we can get this done step by step, but give us a culinary high school. give us charity hospital with the full needs they have to have a full-service hospital and give people homes. new orleans is coming back. maybe 200,000 short of where they were before katrina, but it's still a great city and i think everything's in the right direction, but we need to speed it up. >> what do you think's missing from the political dialogue? obviously our government is more than capable of creating benefits and schurs on behalf of those that they feel worthy, tends to be those that give them the most money. obviously, they don't get at of money from the people of new orleans or the state of
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louisiana, so they're not getting much back. how would you suggest the american people help that community, because there but for the grace of god goes a lot of communities in this country and our inability to come together as you just described is a direct function of the government's response to special interests as opposed to actual communities. >> well, i think, dylan, we've got to do it outside of government. i did it. i built two homes. gave my money to the south bend rotary foundation, which was a write off to me. if we got johnson and johnson or pfizer or blue cross/blue shield, the insurance company come in, you build this hospital, it's a write-off, bypass the politicians in government, and get it done with corporate america. i think that's the direction we have to go. >> digger, we only have about 20 seconds, but i've got to ask you this question before we leave. how much of this has to do with
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race? >> no, i think it's beyond race. the meeting yesterday i went to, it was human beings being together. i didn't even look at color, because it was so diverse, it didn't matter. and the only thing i'm going to say in closing is i think these people know what they want. let the local people get it done in their neighborhoods, neighborhood schools, and let these kids make sure that they get an education. >> digger phelps, always a pleasure, my friend. thanks very much. >> hey, mike? mike? tell willie when you see him, i know he's on the "today" show, but last night his book, you know, "american freak show," i was on bourbon street and saw a lot of his freaks last night. >> i'll pass that on to him. we'll be right back with willie's week in review. financing their fleet, sharing our expertise, and working with people who are changing the face of business in america. after 25 years in the aviation business, i kind of feel like if you're not having fun at what you do, then you've got the wrong job. my landing was better than yours. no, it wasn't. yes, it was. was not.
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well, if it's friday, it's willie's week in review. >> have you chastises your chairman, pete wilson, who called the congress whores? >> at number three, whoregate. >> that is a deeply offensive term to women. >> someone inside jerry brown's campaign was caught calling his opponent a whore on a phone he thought was hung up. meg whitman's campaign seized on the comment, making whorishness a central debate. >> did you chastise pete wilson?
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>> that's a completely different thing. the fact that you are defending your campaign -- >> reporter: while some at the press balked at using the uncomfortable word, one seemed to embrace it. >> don't call her a whore. >> slow down there, joey s. you don't have to make up for everybody not saying whore. >> one man stood as the biggest whore of all. >> "american freak show" is out today. >> a new york man took a $1 million challenge from a british billionaire and streaked in front of president obama at a rally in philadelphia. wearing only the name of a website and a mean pair of love handles, the man got within shouting distance of the president before he was taken down by the secret service. at the same rally, obama went
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through the presidential rite of passage of dodging a flying object, when someone chucked a book at him. the lengths to which some people will stoop to get attention for their books. disgusting. today is "american freak show" release today, plus one. don't pick up a copy of my book for me, do it for the chilean miners. and by that i mean -- no, listen. this isn't about me, is the point. >> reporter: and the number one story soft week, 33 miners trapped for more than two months underground in chile were rescued this week, one by one, as the news networks kept vigils with running tallies. >> pulled to fresh air and freedom. >> the unbelievable appears to be taking place. >> that is just a scene out of a movie. >> there's the money shot. >> reporter: the men, who appeared based on video reports to be having an ongoing shirtless rave deep beneath the
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earth's surface emerged looking healthy, happy, and ready to sign their endorsement deals. >> chi-chi-chi! le-le-le! >> reporter: there was one miner who took his sweet time coming out of the ground. yonny barrios, the man who found himself at the center of a love triangle during the subterranean ordeal was greeted with a hug by his mistress. his wife decided to stay home. the only consolation for the betrayed wife, she's getting a free signed copy of "american freak show." >> lucky her. up next, what, if anything, did we learn today? i do a lot of different kinds of exercise,
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all right, time to tell you what we learned today. i learned that the best promotion for a book is to have dylan ratigan on your show for an hour, dramatic readings. we'll take this off broadway. >> put it on the internet. we'll put it on twitter. a half-hour before this show, we will tweet the location. >> oh, my god, this is exciting. >> on a street corner, somewhere in new york city, all weekend, i'll be doing readings. >> this is dramatic. norah, what'd you learn? >> i learned that you left for the "today" show and dylan didn't stop talking the whole time. >> i didn't miss anything while i was gone.
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