man up, harry reid. you need to understand that we have a problem with social security. >> angle on the attack and gunning for the most powerful senator in america. she's declaring victory today in their one and only debate. out of the mine and soon out of the hospital. the rest of the 33 chilean miners should be home this weekend, and a star is born. the youngest is being called the chilean justin bieber. do this on 9/11. >> oh, my god. >> talk about hot topics. you know things are going to get heated when bill o'reilly joins the lady of the view. joy and bill react to yesterday's big dust-up. joining the discussion today, medal of honor resill gent jacobs, salon.com steve kor in that casy and delaware governor

jack markle. good friday morning. a showdown in a somehow town, and what happens in vegas apparently isn't staying there. the race for senate in nevada between senator harry reid and sharon angle could very well turn the whole power structure in congress. that's only one reason the entire country is watching this race. there's also the unexpected strength of tea party darling angle who was on the attack last night relentlessly going after the majority leader. now reid not exactly known for being a talented or rater fought back sticking to his message angle is too extreme. much like the expensive tv ad balgtszs the debate got nasty when she accused him of getting rich off the american people. >> you came from searchlight to the senate with very little. now you're one of the richest men in the u.s. senate. on behalf of nevada taxpayers i'd like to know, we'd like to know, how did you become so

wealthy on a government payroll? >> senator ried. >> that's kind of a low blow. most everyone knows i was a very successful lawyer and did a good job in investing. so her suggestion i made money being a senator is simply false, and i'm disappointed she would suggest that. >> steve is a political columnist for salon.com. amanda turkel is a senior political reporter for the huffing ton post. i think you would probably all agree that in terms of strong personalities or charisma. is a lot of debate about an expectations game, and if so, who met or didn't expectations? >> these things are not fought on a level playing field. to me you look at the contrast and the last two days we had the debate in nevada last night and it in delaware the night before. if you look on paper, o'donnell and angle are the same, but they

had to do different things in these debates. the challenge was less than it was for christine o'donnell because sharon angle walked into this debate in a dead even race already where voters in nevada overwhelmingly don't like harary reed. they're looking for an excuse in nevada. they have some reservations that sharon angle seems and sounds too extreme. everything they've heard about her. >> last night don't you think, amanda, we didn't hear any extreme statements. there weren't really any gotcha moments. >> there weren't really any gotcha moments. last night sharon angle was not christine o'donnell, and >> she didn't stumble and wasn't unable to name a supreme koufrt case for several awkward minutes. that worked to her advantage. i don't think this debate was a game-changer. i don't think nevada has said -- they didn't say, i'm going to vote for sharron angle now. i think this lived up to what people expected. because sharron angle didn't stumble, that was good for her.

>> nevada has the highest unemployment rate in the nation, i think still the highest foreclosure rate. this state is in desperate trouble. i want to show this exchange because it really does point out how these two candidates differ. >> all these things i've talked about, my opponent is against those. she wouldn't do that. my job is to create jobs. but she's talking about extreme. >> harry reid, it's not your job to create job. it's your job to create policies that create the confidence for the private sector, to create those jobs. >> you know, one of the things that you can say about this race is people have a clear choice here. i mean they really are very different ideologically. but is it about ideology or is it just about people are sick of hearing reid? >> i really believe it is. there were moments that drove it home to me. verier any the debate harry reid tried to turn his experience as majority leader to his advantage. he read off a list of significant accomplishments the democrats had in congress.

one was he said we passed a tax cut for 95% of americans. that's true. it actually is a very accomplished congress and senate that harry reid has presided over, but it doesn't feel that way to voters right now. it doesn't feel that way to voters in nevada where the unemployment rate is so high. it doesn't feel that way to voters with this incredible economic anxiety. it doesn't feel true. sharron angle turns around and says harry reid has voted over 300 times to raise taxes. that feels true to voters in a year like this. this is a year when they don't like harry reid because he represents washington and they're frightened and uneasy and blame washington and the democrats that run washington. they why i say it's not a level playing field. showing up and being competent works in sharron angle's adds vantage. >> she had talking points. as you said, no doubt about that. because she made the comparison, amanda, and a lot of people are with the o'donnell debate the night before, can you believe this report? a lot of people were saying, look, she made the biggest error

when she wasn't ready for that supreme court question. do we have that tape actually? let's go back and look at the o'donnell debate and when she was asked about what supreme court decision she would like to see overturned. watch this. >> oh, gosh, give me a specific one. i'm sorry. i know that there are a lot. i'll put it up on my website. >> well, let's see -- of course, in the great history of america there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every american. >> the question, amanda, i asked our company yes was didn't anybody look back to the sarah palin question by katie couric and prep her for that. it turns out that the same people who prepped sarah palin prepped o'donnell. how is that possible that she wasn't ready for that question? >> well, the people who prepped christine o'donnell said they

thought she ended up actually doing a very good job. but there seemed to be basic questions to prep for, supreme court cases, maybe what books, magazines and newspapers she would read because palin got that question, too. christine o'donnell walked into this. throughout the debate she was raling against justices who legislate from the bench. there's a question about what supreme court cases you disagree with. she should have had an answer or two and be ready with it. >> amanda, steve, great conversation. thanks to both of you. it appears the 33 men rescued from a chilean mine are managing their fame as well as they managed their 70-day ordeal. the miners haven't talked much publicly about their harrowing experience and have told family members not to talk with reporters either without their permission. outside the hospital, a group of teenage girls was hoping to catch a glimpse of the youngest miner, 19-year-old jimmy sanchez who may be turning into chile's

version of juice tin bieber. she is single but spoken for by a much younger woman. he said thoughts of his 4-month-old daughter helped him cope. shaping up to be a beautiful fall weekend in most of the country. here in the northeast it's anything but. new england is seeing the worst of a nor'easter that could last well through tomorrow. jim cantore is in stow, vermont, usually a very beautiful place. boy, it looks like it's pouring there. >> reporter: it is. it's a cold rain, chris. temperatures are right above freezing. i can look up the mountain and see the snow. we've already had accumulating snow. this will be an elevation snow event. the problems aren't with the snow. that's going to make it prettier in my opinion even though a lot of the leaves you see behind me are going to eventually fall off the trees as a result of what will be 20 to 50-mile-per-hour winds. what a great shot that's going to be with your camera, where

you've got foliage, if you will underneath or down near the valley and up on the moun pan teeks you'll have snow. in some cases it will be from 6 to 16 inches up in the northern mountains of vermont and new hampshire. it's making for a miserable day, that's for sure. you still have, if you will, another peak weekend in mid vermont and mid new hampshire and maine. a lot of people will be traveling on buses and whatnot to see the colors. i think they'll get a nice treat when they see the storm clear. windy tonight and tomorrow as well as the winds come on through behind this storm. back to you. >> at least wake up on sunday to clearer skies? >> reporter: absolutely. >> are you going to go skiing, is stowe going to open. >> reporter: if there's snow, i will hike up another 2200 feet with boots and skis and hit it. chance at first tracks? oh, my goodness. >> thanks so much, jim. didn't your mom ever tell you don't stand out in the rain?

get out of there. thank you, jim. this goes to the top of our file marked you can't make this stuff up. outside of seattle a woman is charged with second degree assault after she allegedly stabbed her classmate at an anger management class. in fact, they were actually watching a movie about anger management. there were no cameras, but we can tell you the 19-year-old got in an argument who had been complaining about the video. a classmate told her to calm down. she flew into a rage and stabbed the victim with a folding knife. i don't think she's going to pass the class. just a thought. speaking of anger management -- just kidding. daytime dust-up on "the view." what got whoopi goldberg and joy behar so fired up they walked off the set. president obama and his uneasy relationship with the gay

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14 minutes past the hour. we're looking at a breaking news situation in texas where the vintage bank on north highway 77 apparently is now a hostage situation. there was an attempted robbery this morning. we don't know how many people are being held hostage. it's also not very far away from a local elementary school so they've locked that down, north

side elementary. police say it's just a precaution. you can see we saw on a wider shot a little earlier that police have surrounded that. s.w.a.t. teams have been brought in. we don't know how many people are inside the bank. apparently this all started at 7:00 in the morning. obviously most likely before the bank opened its doors, although they often have people going in earlier who are manning drive-through windows and such. we'll keep our eye on that developing situation in texas for you. this is not a question of whether the policy will end. this policy will end. it will end on my watch. but i do have an obligation to make sure that i'm following some of the rules. i can't simply ignore laws that are out there. >> that's president obama on don't ask don't tell. and at a time when he's trying to fire up his liberal base, he seems to be in no hurry to make good on a campaign promise to end the controversial ban on gays in the military. the administration is asking a

federal judge to block this week's lower court ruling that tossed out don't ask don't tell. instead he says congress needs to end the 17-year-old policy. while all the legal wrangling is taking place, for the moment at least the military says it will comply with the judge's ruling. nbc's jim michael shef ski is live at the pentagon. >> on a practical level, pentagon legal officials say, look, the judge has issued this injunction. so they have toob bide by that temporarily. they're seeking a stay in that injunction. but in the meantime, the u.s. military services have been instructed not to enforce don't ask don't tell against any gay or lesbian service members until such time as judge virginia phillips out there in california either rules on the stay or a higher court perhaps could

overturn that injunction. in all practicality, the u.s. military has not been aggressively enforcing don't ask don't tell for several months after secretary bob gates indicated that, look, we're going to enforce don't ask don't tell under a more humane sort of process in which those who are involuntarily outed will not be forced out of the service. so everybody, and quite frankly u senior military officials are looking at the inevitability at the end of don't ask don't tell and there hasn't been that much pressure to endorse it at all. >> the president did upset some liberal and gay groups. he might have scored some points at yesterday's mtv down hall. >> i don't profess to be an expert. this is a layperson's opinion, but i don't think it's a choice. i think that people are born

with a certain makeup and that we're all children of god. we don't make determinations about who we love, and that's why i think that discrimination on the basis of sexual or yen takes is wrong. >> joining me now, david mixner once named by "newsweek" as the most powerful gay man in america. he's a political strategist and gay rights activist. let me ask you a practical question first. if gay members of the military come to you and say what should i do? is it okay to come out? >> i would say not unless you're ready to face dismissal. clearly this administration is bent and determined to continue to enforce don't ask don't tell. we have seen people dismissed in the last couple of months over this policy. >> so don't be lulled into thinking because there's a stay, that because they're saying right now we're going to freeze all of the action against gay members that it could be for good. >> we've had promised to us for

two years next month, next month, next month. it's like laying next to someone and whispering sweet nothings in your ear and finding out they have a mistress somewhere else. the fact of the matter is this policy should not have been appealed. it's a shameful and immoral act. it makes gay and lesbian and bisexual and transgender people second class citizens. it's outrageous. >> you think the president is trying to have it both ways? >> the president acted and had a moment idea where he could have been a courageous president. he had a court decision in hand that could have ended this policy yesterday. instead he chose to choose process over justice. he chose to send a message to all that epidemic of self hatred going on among young gays and lesbians that you are still separate from the rest of us.

>> you sound very frustrated. amanda, let me ask you, what's the political calculation here? what's this mean for the president? >> i think president obama is trying to have it both ways. that's what's frustrating people so much. on same-sex marriage he's now to the right of people like kel mehlman, former head of the rnc and laurp rah bush. he has had the opportunity with cases like proposition 8 to say, look, i said i wasn't for same-sex marriage, but now i am. politically i think he's trying to have it both ways. trying to appease people maybe in the military or conservatives who are nervous about repealing don't ask don't tell and trying to reassure progressives, but i think the progressives are getting frustrated. >> it seems like these are in the news a lot, especially the president's senior advisor valerie jarrett who was talking about the rutgers student. she had to apologize for saying she thought this gay rutgers student who committed suicide had made a lifestyle choice.

what's going on at the white house? >> there's a bind he's put himself into where there's so much fear of a backlash that you take these positions, whether it's on don't ask don't tell or gay marriage, where you're trying to avoid a backlash you think is out there for the right. you see carl paladino in new york this week. he had the sort of inflammatory anti-gay comments. when he was called on it, what was his defense? his defense was if you look at it my position is the same as the president of the united states. he's right. paladino and obama are identical. what he's done by forging this position in a way is give cover to people like carl paladino to say the things they say and say, you know what? my opinion isn't really different than barack obama's. >> what he's chosen to do is ignore the courts of the united states. we had a decision in california on marriage. we've had a decision in california on don't ask don't tell. he's chosen instead to choose some sort of crazy process that involves the military and

congress instead of hearing the courts declare all this constitutional. >> let me ask you then what you think the political price is that he will pay in the gay and liberal community. >> gay and lesbian community i think -- >> and liberal community. >> and liberal community. he's going to pay a heavy price. every one is quoting his statement that he believes marriage is between a man and woman. he's not only not helping us, he's hurting us while giving people cover to hide their bigotry. >> thank you so much. we'll continue to follow this breaking situation coming to us out of waxahachie, texas, where at approximately 7:00 this morning, there was a robbery at the vintage bank on highway 77 north. the front doors of the north side elementary school are locked. that is in the vicinity. police are saying that's just a precaution. they obviously have a potentially very volatile situation there. there's at least one hostage we

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there are now two schools in waxahachie, texas in lockdown, waxahachie prep and north side elementary because of a bank robbery that escalated into an apparent hostage situation. we don't know how many people are being held inside. at least one person according to police at the vintage bank, this is on highway 77 north. you can see a lot of activity surrounding that bank with fbi hostage negotiators, with the s.w.a.t. team there. police got there. it started to unfold at 7:00 this morning local time, presumably before that bank had opened. we don't know how many people might have been inside at the time of the attempted robbery. again, those two schools are in lockdown. in fact, all campuses around

waxahachie have been told by police to lock their front doors. officials are carefully monitoring who is entering and exiting all those area schools. we will keep you posted as we get more information on this developing situation. here are some of the other top stories we're following on msnbc. iranian leaders say they're ready to go back to the table and resume nuclear talks. the u.n. security council has been pushing tehran to negotiate. another year, another massive deficit. the congressional budget office says our deficit for the 2010 fis fiscal year is about $1.29 trillion dollars. i guess a little good news is that about $125 billion off the 2009 deficit. the drugstore chain cvs will pay a record $75 million fine for failing to control its sales of cold medicines that can be used to make methamphetamines. prosecutors say cvs became the

largest supplier of meth lab ingredients in southern california. new york city police arrested an 11 suspect on a vicious anti-gay attack. they're all members of the street gang called latin kings goonies. eight have been arraigned on hate crime charges. a burglary suspect in oregon really pulled out all the stops to evade capture. he made a getaway camouflage suit. it's out of moss. it looks clever, right? but apparently not effective. a police canine unit caught up to gregory liascos in the end. he was trying to hideout in the woods. he was a walking mosiman. >> exactly. what will be next? >> i don't know. we talk about tea party supported candidates and the wild ads and words we hear from a fresh group of political players, pretty much outside the typical political mainstream.

this morning we wanted to give you a better look at the real impact this movement can have on capitol hill after election day. richard lui has been looking into the future. there was a lot of debate a few months ago. now that we're getting down to the wire, some of the tea party candidates are looking very strong. >> down to the wire. how real is the tea party and the candidates they back. what we did here, chris, is we took a look at a couple of analyses that have come out over the last day or so. the tea party could have solid wins if some of the indications from these particular analyses do not change. of course, what's at risk right here is the balance of power. the majority for the democrats that they might lose. the key numbers here at the house as well as the senate, the tipping point, 39 seats in the house and ten seats in the senate. at the end of november 2nd, if the net loss by democrats in the house is 39 and ten in the senate, they will lose the majority. now, according to what we understand from these reports coming out of "the new york

times" as well as the associated press, the tea party and the candidates that they are supporting right now it looks like there are 33 candidates in the house in districts where they're either leaning republican or solidly republican or are in toss-up districts. as for the senate, we're looking at eight candidates where it looks like tea-party-backed candidates will win or have a good clans of winning there. you can see here, very, very close for the senate in terms of the balance of power. very, very close in the house as well. the tipping point absolutely being affected by what is right down here, that tea party dynamic. we might be asking why. behind the factory doors of all of this, of course, are the voters. i want to flip what we've got here on the screen and show you what is also being told by "the new york times." they looked -- bloomberg news took a look at likely voters here, chris.

according to what they understand, one in three according to their study are identifying themselves as supporting tea party, the tea party. that's one in three likely voters. of these faces down here, many of them are identifying themselves as independent as well as saying that they and a majority of them are saying they're going to vote for a gop candidate. that does not all favor -- there are those who disagree with what some of the status is saying. the head of the democratic national committee tim kaine saying this throws things in the air, but helps us in the end. there are some states where they thought they all but had to give up on their candidates. but now there is some hope. all said here, chris, either way we look at it, things are different today. when we take a look, there are more cycles out there, what's an independent, what's a tea party backed candidate. the calculus is going to be interesting come november 2nd. >> without a doubt, richard.

thank you so much. i want to bring in governor jack markal, a democrat from delaware. that's the home of christine o'donnell who is in a race against chris coons. it's good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> this isn't a close race. we know that. chris coons looks like he's close to 20 points ahead in the latest poll i've seen. but the president is coming. the president is coming. and when i asked some folks yesterday, some political analysts, why would they use the president's star power there, couldn't he better be used somewhere else? they said that democrats don't want another massachusetts. they aren't going to risk another surprise. of course, polls can be wrong. do you rule out the possibility that christine o'donnell with the feeling in this country about what's going on in washington, with all the free media time she's been getting, that she could pull off an upset? >> first of all, you can never take anything for granted. i can assure you neither chris

coons or the democratic party in delaware is taking this race for granted. that's number one. it's always great to have the president come to your state, in this case with the vice president. we're going to show them how proud we are of the work they're doing. in addition, it's a great opportunity for them to highlight the differences between good, solid candidates like chris coons who has got a track record of creating jobs in the private sector. he's done a good job managing newcastle county through very difficult times. that's the choice on the one hand. at the same time we have a tea party candidate who is very far to the right. that's a choice that exists throughout the country. i think it's an opportunity for the president to come here to highlight the fact that there are significant differences between good, democratic candidates in many states on the one side and the tea party candidates on the other. >> again, you never take anything for granted on either side. i don't know if you were able to hear the analysis that richard lui did, and there's an article

in today's "new york times" about the strength of some of these tea party candidates right now and their potential ability to sort of upset the status quo. not only because they were surprises obviously in the primaries, but because they are looking strong in some of these races in both the house and the senate. what do you think their potential impact might be, especially when it comes to the core issues that the american people are talking about, spending, taxes, the deficit. >> well, i did hear your earlier report. i didn't see "the new york times" article yet today. it does seem that many states, they could have a big impact. we're doing everything we can in delaware to make it clear to people this is not a referendum on a party, not a referendum on anything in particular. this is a choice between two candidates. around the country what we're seeing is as voters recognize, this is actually a choice between people who have gone very far to the right to win their primaries in some cases on the one hand and then on the

other hand, people with good track records and working with the private sector to create jobs. a lot of these races are tightening up. it's what we're seeing in many governors races across the country and certainly we expect at the end of the day in delaware, when people recognize what that choice is, that chris coons who is a great can't dand who has worked a lot with the private sector to create jobs will be a winner here. >> let me ask you about those races because you lead democrats in the national governors association. chuck todd, our good friend at the white house and here at msnbc was saying this morning that two races that political analysts are looking at particularly in terms of governorships are ohio and florida. obviously the implications this they would have for the next presidental run because of the organizations that are on the ground that could help a republican or democratic candidate. how do you see the democratic races playing out? and ohio and florida, are they key? >> certainly those are two major states. california another one where i

believe we've got a very good shot. i was in ohio this week with governor strickland. he's been a great governor. we actually visited a new company that's starting out. they're going to be hiring 150 people over the next several months. he's worked so well with the private sec tor there to create jobs. similarly in florida, alex sink who is a great candidate, cf ofrnlts of the state. before that she was in the private sector and running against a guy who presided over a company that paid the biggest medicare medicaid fraud fine ever of $1.75 billion. they have great candidates like strickland and sink in those states, we're hopeful for the outcomes there. >> governor jack markell, good for you to take the time to talk to us. thanks so much. >> all right. thank you. who can forget the old spice guy? >> hello ladies. look at your man. now back to me. now back at your man. now back to me. sadly, he isn't me. but if he stopped using laid dies scented body wash and switched to old spice, he could

smell like he's me. >> now there's another copy cat of that ad. check out joe miller's rendition. >> hello voters. look at your ballot. now look at him. this is joe miller. now back to your ballot. you see his name. look at her. now back to your ballot. sadly she is not on your ballot. why? because she lost. she lost to joe miller. look up. it's joe miller. >> say what you will, richard, but i have never in my lifetime seen such clever ads in a political race. >> i was looking for him to say, look at joe miller, i'm sitting on a horse. that's the way the other ad ended. what's interesting is you see pictures, he has eight kids. i didn't know he had so many kids. >> that's a little message you get. >> can we show the video of grover in the shower? this has to be the most copied ad. >> look at yourself, back to me, back at yourself, now back to me. sadly you are not a monster. but if you listen to grover, you

will know all about the word "on" just as many ton center does. look down, bark up. where am i? i am on a boat. what is in your hand. >> i think richard, i'd like you to see your spoof of that ad for jansing and company. >> chris, we've got, what, three more weeks to go with all the ad funding out there. 75% over last year in terms of increase of ad spend. there has to be a couple extra dollars for us. >> speaking of brilliant ads, we've got the guy behind some of the most talked about campaign commercials this year including the one, the only, i am not a witch and barack obama is the worst president. where does he come up with the ideas that drive some people to the polls and others -- drive people plain crazy. political ad extraordinary ed davis my special guest coming up in one hour. sure i'd like to diversify my workforce,

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the brand new aircraft carrier "george h.w. bush" is about to be put to good use in our own msnbc military analyst, retired army colonel jack jacobs, a medal of honor recipient got to go. i'm very jealous. it looked amazing. did you have fun on that boat? >> you can't call it a boat. it's a floating city. recently i got the rare and very exciting opportunity to spend a couple days aboard the "george h.w. bush." it was a real adrenaline rush. let's take a look. >> it's as long as the empire state building is tall. when it deploys for the first time next spring, 5500 sailors will call it their home. >> you keep forgetting you're out in the middle of the ocean. it's a floating city. >> we can feed over 15,000 meals a day. >> day and night, pilots perfect

their skills, always hoping to snag one of the wires. though most of the action may appear to be on the flight deck, it's actually the men and women below who defend, maintain and navigate this $6.2 billion vessel. just ask helicopter pilot scott wallgood. >> everyone relies on each other. >> where does a ship like this fit in. we're spending a lot of time training special operations people, special forces people to project power on the land. what's the place of a big piece of equipment like this in that kind of strategic environment? >> you need to have secure aerospace above any operating area that you have. our airway does that, especially in an area where you might not have land basing rights for

land-based aircraft. >> i set up communications for the boat so we can talk to other ships, the airplanes that fly on board. as well as any submarines. >> what's it like being one of a very small number of women on the ship? >> the navy is hard work for anyone. in my department thankfully it's more of a brain world, not a physical world. >> what kind of ammunition do you have around the ship? >> we have missiles, all services, air-to-ground, surface-to-air, air-to-air. >> the real offensive striking power of aircraft carrier, the aircraft that we hear up above us on the flight deck. our job is to protect the ship. >> when you look outside the window, you see the guys connecting hoses to the aircraft, and i coordinate all that. >> they work for you. those guys out there fueling all the aircraft work for you? >> yes, sir.

>> so much more than how long is the ship and what it's powered by and how much technology it has. it's the sailors. it's those 19 1/2, 20-year-old men and women woman the ship and bring her to life. >> jack, first of all, what a scam that you got to go. >> a complete scam, totally. >> seriously, obviously he talked about keeping the skies clear and all that. really, what do you see as the strategic purpose. >> i think the captain gave the politically correct answer to the question, out there on the grounds to support the guys in southwest asia. we have a dozen of these things. they're really there for the kind of war that we don't want to fight, the big war. that's why we have this floating diplomacy in all the seas. china is about ready to launch its first aircraft carrier. it's an expansionist country when it's internally strong which it is at the moment,

scaring the people in southeast asia and east asia to death. the russians can always do something. the real reason for this is we have to keep our eye on potential enemies who are much bigger than just the taliban and al qaeda. >> if that aircraft carrier has more people on it than my hometown, the town i grew up in. >> it really is a floating city. the people are jam packed in there. and the average age of the people who are below the level of noncommissioned officers, the ships complement, the sea men, 19 1/2. >> unbelievable stuff. that was fascinating, jack. thanks so much. >> you're very welcome. this moment on "the view" picking up thousands of hits on the internet. what bill o'reilly said that made whoopi and joy storm off the set. she felt lost... until the combination of three good probiotics in phillips' colon health defended against the bad gas, diarrhea and constipation.

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