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it's the giggest leak of war secrets in u.s. history. what did wikilikes reveal and what's the pentagon saying? credit check. why the obama administration thinks his administration's doesn't get the credit they deserve. and a deadly shark attack in california. good morning, everyone. welcome to msnbc saturday. i'm alex witt where it's just past 9:00 a.m. here on the east coast. the group behind the wikileaks website is speaking out in

defense of the release of documents. >> we believe received received these logs, wikileaks was right to publish them. but the real story is not about the release itself but the grave content of the logs themselves. >> there is a blog online about how investigators did follow up on allegations of abuse. let's get to the reaction of the pentagon. what are they saying? >> first of all, they're contempting the leaks of these nearly 400,000 classified american military secrets. these were raw battlefield reports that were sent up the chain of command by the ground pounders. those, the trigger pulls involved in those operations. some of those could be taken out of context because you have no idea how the u.s. military reacted after that. but nevertheless, this provided

statistics about just how brutal that war was. military officials argue, look, a lot of this stuff we already knew. but alex, frankly, we haven't had this kind of detail and the grim details that are contained in some of these 400,000 documents. >> yeah. what about the wikileaks group and their confidence this morning from london. what do they say about it all? >> a large port of their conference was going over the data they had. i think the news conference went on for about three hours. but they were also defending their release of these documents, saying their intent was to get at the truth. on the other side, of course, the pebt gone and military will argue that these are probably half truths because you don't know the complete other side of the story. never, these, some of the information contained includes a document that there was at least one order given to u.s. troops not to intervene, for example,

when they saw iraq forces abusing, torturing and in some cases killing detainees in iraq. u.s. military officials say, however, that whenever they saw something like that, there were apparently attempts if not interventions. but it's not clear there's any evidence of that. they did report it up the chain to the iraqi commanders, but there's no evidence that they ever took the actions that may have been necessary to interv e intervene. so i guess you can say even though there are 400,000 documents, there are a much smaller number than that that are revealing in any form or fashion and that they're ohm to, really, interpretation. >> jim, thanks for interpreting that for us. we appreciate it. we have developing news out of the afghanistan. suicide bombers dressed in burkas and police uniforms attacked the united nations area there today.

here is more from kabul, afghanistan. good evening your time, ali. i want to talk about at that tack launched in an area where with insurgents are usually less busy. what is it about this location and what is happening to try and keep this from happening again? >> that's right, alex. it was a brazen attack on the u.n. compound this morning in the western region of afghanistan. four taliban insurgents attacked the u.n. compound. initially they tried to enter the compound by hitting it with a rocket. they couldn't get in with a roblg. one of the taliban fighters blew up a car latent with sdmroesives, paving a way for the two others to get into the compound. there's conflicting reports about what happens in the compound. some reports say that the two insurgent fighters after an initial fire flooi fight blew themselves up. security forces, other reports say that they were all short by

afghan security forces. what we know is that all three were killed and no u.n. posts were injured in the compound. a u.n. spokesman said that these personnel were all okay. as you know, the western province of afghanistan is a less taliban inflicted area. there was a lot of taliban and this is obviously a worrying development in an area where we've seen not much less taliban violence. >> and ali, very worrying, as well, about how they were able to penetrate that compound. didn't one of the attackers make his way into the compound? >> well, what we understand is that the attackers got into the compound. one of them blew himself up in a car latent with expositives and the other three were able to go in. he paved the way for them to go

in. it appears that maybe two of them blew themselves up and one of them was shen shot by the afghan security forces. this was a brazen attack. this was the worst attack we've seen on the u.n. since october 2009 when taliban fighters attacked the u.n. guest house here in kabul calling five foreign u.n. workers here. and prompting the u.n. to seriously down scale their personnel here. >> yeah. you mentioned that foreign troops number right now about 150,000 there in afghanistan. to what extent are military officials considering any sort of a security strategy change? we're seeing increased bouts of violence like this, particularly on nato troops and u.n. troops there. >> that's right. i mean, we've seen a real spike in attacks here over the last two years. since this war began, 2000 nato troops have been killed here and over half of them have been killed in the last two years. from what we understand in this

western province where there are less taliban, the idea was to hand over this province over the afghan national army. but this is going to raise serious concerns over the next coming months when they wanted to down scale in an area that was much quieter, now they're probably going to have to really reassess what they want to do here. >> okay. thank you so much for that live report. msnbc is the place for politics. it's another big day on the campaign trail. president obama is wrapping up his trip out west where he held five rallies in four states. next up, an event this afternoon in minnesota. back in nevada, senator harry reid is hoping the president was able to drum up enough excitement to help hold off republican challenger sharron angle. >> let me tell you, las vegas, you have not forgotten, i have not forgotten, we are not going to buy what they are selling. that is a choice we've got in this election. >> and it's not only the president hitting the road.

former new york city mayor roou rudy giuliani is dusting off his campaign shoes. pat toomey is leading joe sestak by just two points in their race for senate. another big name on the campaign trail is sarah palin. she made a surprise appearance yesterday at the tea party rally in arizona. >> it is thanks to you we have the opportunity to turn things around. put america back on the right track. i thank you so much for all that you're doing. go bless you. we can see it from our house. let's take america back! >> palin will join rnc chairman michael steele today at a florida rally for marco rubio who is running for the senate there. >> we are learning more details this morning about a shark attack off the coast of california. 19-year-old luke rans yop was boom boogie boarding with a friend when auto shark attacked him. mark potter has more.

>> the beach where the attack occurred is now closed for the weekend. witnesses say early in the morning in the shore line 100 yards offshore, a 19-year-old lucas ranson was attacked by a shark that severed his left leg. >> the victim was boogie boarding, saw his friend go under water for a brief moment, came up, something was wrong. noticed that he had been attacked by a shark. >> the friend and two others pulled ransom to shore, but he was pronounced dead at the scene. rams ransom's bookgy board had a bite mark more than a foot wide. experts believe it was probably a white shark. >> as they're the largest of the predatory sharks, they go after large prey items and unfortunately, for us humans occasionally, we fall in that category. >> the attack happened at surf

beach in a public area of vandenberg air force base, 140 miles northwest of las vegas. the last shark attack here was two years ago when another suspect white shark pore. but there have been 94 shark attacks before this since 1950. 11 of them fatal. >> ransom was a former lifeguard honored three years ago for helping to save a boy's life. his friend who was with him when he died said ironically the two had joked just the night before about their chances of being attacked by a shark. mark potter, in his news. star lindsay low hahn will be spending the holidays in rehab after a judge sentenced her to remain in an inpatient facility until january 3rd. l lohan failed a drug test last month. lohan said she didn't want to

remain in inpatient rehab because it would be a financial hardship and damaging to her career. actor randy quaid and his wife are seeking refuge in canada, saying they're being persecuted in the united states. the couple was arrested yen in vancouver related to felony charges. >> this is a statement from the areas. this is from the world press. thank you for coming and yes, we have requesting asylum from hollywood star walkers. thank you. >> star whackers? what does that mean? >> i'm just reading what is written here. >> well, the couple is free on bond and will have another hearing on nurse. randy quaid was arrested last month for allegedly living in a house that he had owned years ago. o.j. simpson will stay behind bars in a 2008 armed robbery stemming from a las vegas hotel room heist.

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new developments in the money game as both parties dig in for november 2nd. the national republican senatorial committee brought in $6.2 million for the first two weeks of october and that ended down their democrat ek rivals who raised $5.7 million. that is just pennies on the dollar compared to the maximum amounts of cash that secret are now flooding into the campaign. by some estimates, $3 billion. emily, the staff writer for roll call, we're going to follow the money trail. good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> so this election has taken a whole new dynamic about spending. tell us about what has exchanged here and secret donors, how

they're playing a bigger role. >> third party spending this cycle has been huge. some of it has to do with 2010 the way that unions and companies can direct cash into campaigns. so that lifted it up a little bit. these third party groups have been the focus of the white house ire in particular. you've heard president obama single out the chamber of commerce. they've been pouring money particularly into republican campaigns. i'm not saying the democrats aren't using these, too, but they're being outspent. chris van hole lntd is heading up the democrats' efforts in the house campaign cycle. he says they're being outspend 5 to 1, republicans getting much more money from these secret groups. >> let's talk about a recent "wall street journal" report which says the large union group known as ask me, is that how you say that one? >> afscme. >> it is the biggest outside

spender, even outpacing karl rove's group. aren't both sides taking advantage of this? >> well, it is true, they are. but i think republicans are outspending on these groups that close their donors. afscme is made up of state and municipal employees. their interest in this election is so many stimulus money has been going out to states and localities and they're worried that if republicans take over one or both parties that that money is going to dry up. so that is their interest here. their disclosure is a little broader than, say, karl rove's group. a little more detail. you can know a little bit more about where that money is coming from. so these groups separate under different sets of rules depending on how these organizations are set up. >> okay. there are some suggestions that some democrats are blaming the president for these empty groups, a long time clinton fund-raiser echoed that by

saying obama has not been encouraging by state money. but when you're in a fight for your life, you should use whatever you can, as long as it's legal. >> this is true. i think this has been a problem for the obama administration since the very outset of their campaign. there's been a collision between the principles and the stance that obama has taken against lobbyistes and third-party spending that puts them at odds with the way campaigns make money and how they to spend to outspend their opponents. this has been a tough thing. i think there's parallels here. he turns lobbyist into a dirty word. and so i think you're seeing that kind of clash here again. and you have the white house saying that no, if obama stick toes this attitude that third party spending is corrosive to this process. had he not taken that hard of a stance, would democrats be taig

bringing in more money? >> probably. >> i think republicans certainly spent more early on or when you're talking about the senate and house campaign committees. republicans spent more early on. i think you're going to see a big push for spending in the final days of these campaigns. so it remains to be seen how it all plays out. but certainly when it comes to third party groups, we'll see. >> thanks, emily. >> thank you. what's in a name that would recall a bank robber? we'll explain all that coming up next on nbc saturday. it will with natural instincts. it's clinically proven. 80% of women agreed that natural instincts made their hair feel softer. the ammonia-free antioxidant formula actually protects hair from dryness, leaving it softer and healthier looking. for natural looking color in 10 minutes, get your hands on natural instincts. it's all good. for a rich color experience, try natural instincts 10 rich color creme shades.

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whether that description is put out, hopefully that person will be identified very quickly and apprehended. >> it's time to rolle rock and roll. >> unlike the movie like point break, many suspects lately are simply walking up to tellers with hardly any disguise, like george clooney in the move" out of sight." >> that's my partner. there's a gun in in respect. >> for a lot of people, they're thinking about today, not next week or next month, so they're not necessarily worried that their face is seen because they need the money instantly and they'll deal with tomorrow when it comes. >> bank robberies are actually declining. thieves did steal nearly $46 million last year.

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approaching half past the hour, here are your headlines. he's leading las vegas. president obama wraps up his four-day campaign swing with a stop in minnesota today. he'll be there stumping for the democratic governor. last night, he led a rally for senate majority leader harry reid. typhoon megi is now wall lopping china. in italy, protesters shot fireworks at police in more

demonstrations over a garbage dump near naples. protesters are angry about a plant there with a landfill. back here stateside, the fdic has taken over seven more banks and that makes 139 bank failures this year. those are your fast headlines. the latest polls give president obama a mixed report. newsweek just released a survey showing his rating is up 6 points just since the end of september. however, a new gallup poll shows his average approval rating for this past quarter his lowest in office at a 44%. his approval has been in steady decline since his inauguration when 63% of americans approved of him. if you put this all in p

perspective, it's almost hard and unfair to compare numbers to then. >> well, yes, most presidents have that. interesting, ronald reagan did not. he came in in 1991 with approval rates in the 50s. so you have falls of president obama who had international events and their numbers went up. and then, of course, 9/11 with george w. bush. >> right pup matched obama's seventh quarter approval to the other pets and in that, i believe that it was that he trailed both bush presidencies by over 20 points, but he just beats out where clinton, reagan and carter were. can you interpret these numbers as to where this president stands thus far? >> absolutely. i think he's about average. i certainly would say he's not as bad in terms of approval

ratings as some might expect given the perceptions of the american public that we're in a terrible economy and given that his party is not doing at all well know as we approach the midterm elections. the two bushes had international events that credit their ratings in their second area. but reagan in 18982 and clinton in 1984 were slightly lower than where obama is today. given that those presidents had bad economies, as well, i would say about average. >> okay. in looking ahead to 2012 and barring something of an international nature that might bolster his chances to be re-elected, can we interpret where he stands? >> absolutely no predictivebilipredictive ability. you may remember for bush sr., everybody said he's invincible, nobody would run against him because his approval ratings were so high. and, of course, he lost and the history books tell us that clinton and reagan won.

they had abysmal ratings at this time. so it's really too much to come. >> and president carter having lost had that economic issue -- >> that's right. he as to a nose die in 1979 and 1980. obama could go up and soar and get re-elected handily or he could we main with problems and sink. >> when you look at the midterms, there's been a suggestion that that is coming together and that the gap is closing right now. do you get any indication of that from gallup polling? >> we don't. that suggestion comes mainly from democrats, of course. they want to present the posture that momentum is building now and you saw president obama is out there trying to increase enthusiasm. but when we look at our data, our voting data, our generic information for the house, receive seen it suggested that it will be a good day for republicans on november 2nd. >> so there's nothing that tells you that this is going to be a

long night in the house and all is great and it really is going to be neck and neck. many predictions. charlie cook was on here earlier saying that it's going to be a house/republican takeover? >> absolutely. things can change in the last week, but absolutely, the structure of this race is such that we could we would say right now republicans will take over the house. the real question is how many seats will they gain, not will they take over the house. it's going to be a good night for republicans unless something changes. >> in terms of polling remains in the democrat column? >> everybody you talk to has different measures. there's a handful of races. i think analysts probably are not nearly as positive that the republicans will pick up in the neat as they are in the house. >> okay. thank you. >> my pleasure. president obama is touting his own successes in office. in just a few minutes, we'll speak about how he is fighting

for his record. massive hail hammered parts of west texas. take a look at this video. it's golf ball sized hail there and it made the roads look like driving ranges. the ice chunks fell near lubbock. it did do damage to the region's cotton crops and trucks on the road. bill karins has a bit more on this. can you imagine being outside and walking in that? >> actually, there was a picture a couple of months ago with a jogger who was jogging and had no shelter, and he had welts all over his body. >> this morning, texas is still the center of our weather. that's where we have severe thunderstorm warnings. the worse of it right now, san angelo, abilene. look at the strong falls,

pushing through wichita falls. further to the north, another complex of rain, some isolated storms, that's going to move into chicago here shortly. look for about a three or four-hour period of soggy, gloomy weather in peoria, springfie springfield. thunderstorms just outside of central. also, that heavy rain is moving up towards milwaukee and green bay for a soggy saturday for you. we have tropical storm richard out there right off the coast of honduras. this is honduras's problem this weekend and belize as we head into monday. as it goes into the gulf, don't worry about that. by then it will be so weak, it's not available for development at that time. texas, you are also save. this weekend, the middle of the country, thunderstorms. the west coast, you are starting a very stormy weather pattern. winter storm watches for the cascades in washington state. we have high wind warnings along the coast of oregon.

we are going to see rain in areas of tahoe and much of the mountainous regions of northern california. just an ugly weekend of weather. the exceptions, the northeast and the midwest. 71 and sunny in d.c. 66 in philadelphia. hopefully two good days of baseball down there. as far as what we're looking at for your sunday weather tomorrow, much more of the same. stormy weather is on the west coast. i know you have a lot of friends on the west coast and they're going to get hammered. they get big storms in the wintertime. the winter pattern is for the west coast to get a lot of snow this year. >> thank you very much, bill karins. head to weather.com for the latest forecast and to track all the weather systems across this country, of course. it has happened again. another report out this morning of another student who killed himself after being bullied by students. a 16-year-old student from washington state killed himself this week after classmates allegedly circulated a, quote, derogatory text message among students at that high school.

it is the latest tragedy involving bullying and it comes as president obama uses a powerful message to stop it. jeff has more. >> at the time, it seems like a horrible, but isolated case. rutgers student tyler clemente bull lid for being gay. his intimate moments with another man allegedly taped by his roommate and streamed through the campus, driving tyler to suicide. but since then -- a rash of new cases. just this week at oakland university, just outside of detroit, 19-year-old corey jackson took his own life, bullied, his parents say, because he was gay. >> he says ever since i came out, people are treating me different. i just don't know -- he said i don't know what to do. i don't know where i belong. >> in st. louis, police say this teenage girl was attacked by a bully and left in a ditch with a broken nose, a broken arm and a

deep cut to her face. at one high school in ohio, parents say the bullying is so rampant -- >> bullied, deceased. bullied, deceased. >> four students have taken their own lives in as many years. >> bullying is as old as school itself, but is clearly resurfaced as a major national issue. now president obama himself is making a direct plea to teenagers. >> as the parents of two daughters, it breaks my heart. it's something that just shouldn't happen in this country. >> the white house posted this video on youtube. and we've got to dispel this myth that bullying is just a normal right of passage, that it's some inevitable part of growing up. it's not. i don't know what it's like to be picked on for being gay. but i do know what it's like to grow up feeling that sometimes you don't belong. >> the president message, part of the it gets better campaign, featuring thousands of youtube individualsos from everyday

americans. >> it gets better. >> it gets better. >> it gets better. >> it gets better. >> there's help and there's help. >> there is a world full of acceptance and love just waiting for you to find it. >> too late for the families who lost everything, but just in time, perhaps, for the kids still suffering right now. jeff rothson, nbc news, new york. america's one accept closer to sending civilians into space at the completion of the first runway at the world's first commercial spaceport pap celebration yesterday marked the milestone in the southern new mexico did he tell desert. it is the vision of billionaire richard branson. he says it's all that's needed before civilians can get right into space. mom, have you seen my green shirt?

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out west in california, the race forgiven between meg whitman and jerry brown is now the most expensive in state history. kind, those candidates have spent more than $87.5 million it's july 1st. president obama is looking to set the record straight is a meeting in seattle this week he said why his administration hasn't got continue credit he thinks it deserves and took some of the blame himself. >> we had to move so fast, we

were in such emergency mode that it was very difficult for us to spend a lot of time doing victory laps and advertising exactly what we were doing because we had to move on to the next thing. and, you know, i take some responsibility for that. i mean, our attitude was we just have to get the policy right. >> good rning to you. >> thanks for having me. >> i'm glad you're here. you know, you hear the approximated saying that his administration is concerned with getting the policy right. did they failure to get the public on board hinder the ability to do so? >> i think there's no doubt that they did. let's look at the health care battle, for example. i don't think they anticipated the kind of public outrage that ensued after they started introducing legislation and how long the battle would go on for. it went on for months and you had public outcry for months and it turned into a public relations fiasco. if you ask any pr expert, they will tell you that was not handled well from a pr

perspective. so is there any way for the administration to go back and reshape the way the public and the policies sees the policies in the first 18 months or so? >> i think at this point, what's going is gone. it's difficult to handle your public image retrospectively. it's difficult to manage something that happens now, a year ago, six months ago. i think going forward, they'll be handling things differently. as obama said, or as obama hinted, maybe they'll be boasting a little bit more about their accomplishments than they did in the last year. i think the court of public opinion has kind of been determined in the last two years. >> so you think that's how the president may go after distortions in his record, pointing back in ward and saying, hey, this is what we got right, and talking more and more about that? >> i think he'll point to the selective accomplishments of the last two years. but going forward, when he tries to do so, i think they'll be more on the offensive when it comes to the pr campaign. i think they'll be much more proactive than retroactive. >> yeah, okay.

what about looking at these poll numbers from a recent washington post abc news poll which show more people opponent the president's changes to health care than support it now. it's just barely, but 48% to 47%. the president says the changes will eventually be viewed favorably, eventually in time for 2012? >> maybe, maybe not. look, i'm actually reminded of a couple years ago, it was george w. bush and the surge in iraq and how unpopular that was at the time. and look at this now. is it going to be like one of those things where two years later, down if road, people look at it more favorably? perhaps. but it's still a big question mark on that. we don't really know. and when you have republicans campaigning all over the country on how they want to repeal the health care legislation, that's a big negative, not in your favorite. >> okay. good to see you. thank you. >> thanks for having me. president obama is trooil trying to rally young voters to cast the ballot on the midterm tuesday, but will they answer

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a new poll this week suggests the majority of young voters are sitting out this election. a pew research poll says that 38% of voters plan to cast a ballot. rock the vote is hoping to boost that number running service ads. >> no, i'm not going to vote. doesn't make a difference. >> then, you're an idiot. >> more participation. >> more equality. >> more democracy. >> know what you want. >> listen, man, it's urge en. >> vote fearlessly. >> otherwise you're counting on

other people to do the work for you. >> reverend jesse jackson of the reinbow push coalition. good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> heather, i'll begin with you and do ladies first. why is enthusiasm so low among young voters? >> the real question is young voter enthusiasm right now any different than it was in 2006. we keep comparing young people to older voters, but in the 40 years that 18 to 24-year-olds have had the right to vote they've never voted in the same rates as older process. there's reasons for this, they're new to the process. are they as enthusiastic as they were in 06, because if they are that means additional new votes into this electorate. >> that's the perspective. i'll ask you in a second how you're trying to change that up. how about the record turnout of young voters in 2008 and a low turnout for obama.

does it reflect an disenchantment out there? >> that was a crusading spirit. now come all these fierce attacks on the president. the fact is number one, pel grants have been increased. students who graduate without a guaranteed job can stay on their parents' insurance until age 26. you shifted the lender from these scurrilous explore at a timive private lenders. we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. that all has been capped now. so there's reason to vote. and i think what's going on on the campuses is last few days, that's the right place to go. >> heather, this poll says voter interest fell sharply in the last year. 27% of young voters say they're definitely voting in the

midterms. that's down 11 points from this time last year. ten days from now. what are you doing to energize the young voters? >> what rock the vote is doing is educating these young people about both what's at stake, as you saw in our ads, but also what the process looks like. where to go, when to go and what i.d. to bring to the polling place. then we're asking all candidates to high light what they'll do for young americans if elected to aus. that attention from candidates will make a huge difference. >> how about the president did a youth town hall. do you think he's done enough to rally the youth? >> well, i think he has. he's going to do more. when we first got the right to vote in 1965, when blacks got the right to vote, white women couldn't serve on juries. but guess what? you have the right to vote where

you attend school. so you don't have to vote absentee, you can vote where you attend school. for most students that means going to your local student union and just vote. our interest is in what, more pell grants, more student insurance, and the opposition wants to repeal the insurance bill which means those students who come out of school now who are now getting insurance on their parents till 26 will lose it. there's reasons to be inspired to vote in my judgment. we're traveling the country. >> you bring up a good point. that students don't have to go back to their home residential districts. that's been an issue confusing for some. absentee ballots, they missed the deadlines. >> plus, plus, plus early voting. >> right. >> aillinois and california you can vote right now. it is not just tuesday any more. we can vote right now. >> we saw michelle obama casting

her vote recently. >> minnesota, wisconsin, onsite same-day registration. all the barriers to voting have been removed. >> what about in terms of what you there with rock the vote have found were the most successful ways to engage young voters. that's a great rocking the vote ad out there. it is e-mails, campus initiatives. what works the best? >> the most effective thing is personal communication or contact with the voters. that's a friend asking a friend to go show up at the polls and explaining all the things that the reverend just talked about. candidates showing up and knocking on their doors, going to those campuses, having conversation with the voters and explaining what they'll do to address the concerns of the young people and asking them to vote. i always described it as a party, we're having a party. the candidates are having a party at the polls and they've invited all these older voters to show up.

but they forgot to go to the campuses and invite those people too. if you don't invite them, you can't point your finger and be surprised that they didn't come out. asking people personally whether the candidates or the young people themselves to turn out and make sure that we have a real say on these issues in the future. >> yeah, okay. reverend jesse jackson, heather smith, great to talk to you both. voters across this country have been treated to a variety of wacky campaign ad, but are they effective?

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