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alex witt. welcome to msnbc sunday, a little past 11 a.m. on the east coast, 8 a.m. out west, get to what is happening for you. very different forecasts this morning on who will control the house after november 2nd n a pair of sunday interviews, the chairman of the rnc and dnc predicted midterm victory for their respective parties. >> you absolutely believe in the house, the billion of power will shift. we are 38 seats and need to get to 39 to get control. but i think we are more than there. >> i think it is going to be close. as you point, these races are very close but from this point forward it is all about turnout and ground game. we are seeing good, early voting trends and work to do but we think we can do t. >> mike viqueira is live at the white house. >> hi, alex. >> do both with the guys believe the parties are going to win or some serious spinning going on? >> i can't look inside their heads and determine what they feel in their heart he is. michael steele, the pundits, the neutral observers, experts on his side.

both of the gentlemen talking about the house of representatives. most people feel they will earthquake the republicans, yes, get the 39 seat these need net and probably a lot more to gain control. they haven't had it for four years and make john boehner the next speaker of the house, opposing nancy pelosi hurricane a matter of speaking. tim kaine points to the fact that yes, the early voting trends are surprising a few people. many states, alex, some states don't go to the ballot box on election day mail-in ballot or walk-in balloting. nevada, for example, we came from a visit with the president, they have early voting there that lasts for two weeks prior to election day. a lot of those trends show that democrats are making a surprising early showing but a lot of people are not really hanging their hat on that. again, most people expect the house to go republican, the senate, however another matter. if you are talking about wing, as tim kaine was, or keeping the house, it is relative to your expectation. even tim kaine would admit that they are dozen going to lose dozens of seats, perhaps three

dozen seats, will the democrats and the house of representatives. if you put the senate together, going to lose more seats yet in the senate. what he is talking about is holding onto the majority f that is a good election that is lowering the bar somewhat. no question that it is a bleak political landscape right now for democrats, alex. >> mike vick rare rah at the white house. >> certainly. all the work around the country seems to be paying off for president obama. the latest polling shows a surge in popularity for the commander in chief and brighter outlook for democratic candidates trying to pull ahead by november 2nd. peter hart is the chairman for hart research aassociates and pollster for nbc news. good morning to you, peter. >> hey, alex, how are you? >> i'm great, thanks. i have to say you had a late night last night and all happy about the phillies and giants game, weren'ting for the giants, weren't you. >> thank you, alex, very happy, good world series coming up. >> fun to watch. first, we have a little talk politics, games and the elections. let's get to some new poll numbers here released by

"newsweek." in terms of poll what party are you leaning toward, voting for, democrat 48, republicans, 42%. still got that pivotal 10% undecide there had. another poll i want to put up, president obama's job performance, 54% according to "newsweek," approving this, 40% disapproving, those numbers were different with the gallup poll when i talked to frank new port yesterday, overall a jump in what we are seeing. indication that the president's midterm message is resonating? >> i think so alex, i'm really pleased. i think the president has been struggling throughout and i think all of a sudden, he really feels sort of the emphasis, his surge, his message getting sharper and seems to be much more upbeat and i think that has helped him don't think e job rating is as strong as "newsweek" would have it, but i think democrats

are picking up, without a doubt. i look latest polls in the senate, good news in california, colorado, even illinois, and definitely connecticut, the democrats seem to have had a good week, a week and a half. still, as everybody says, about turnout. i think the democrats have got some enthusiasm cutting down that margin. >> you feel the tide turning for the democrats or do you at least feel the surge many expect from the republicans, just not going to be as strong as once thought? >> i think the latter, the surge not quite as strong n a crested election, you see things go up and up and up. by point of view, it seems to be flattening just a light bit. we will look at the polls this week and get a better sense, but i think the democrats have sort of been able to make it a choice rather than a referendum and that's going to be a major help for the democrats. >> okay.

i'm going to have my director, james, pull up that first number again in terms of what party you are leaning toward where does the break down come from to that are 10% undecided? any indication which direction they will go? >> looks like they are fairly divide, to be perfectly honest, but not happy with the direction of washington. one thing i would be be careful of, the number is strong for the democrats, tough go to likely voters energy our latest nbc/wall street poll, we had it 50% for the republicans, 43% for the democrats. so, there's still ground to be made up by the democrats, but, again, i think on an individual races, i think the democrats have picked up, i think they have improved things. >> think particularly with record to the house, enough for the democrats to pick up, hold off the republicans taking over 39 seats in the house? >> i think that would be optimistic at this moment. you have ten day to go and a lot

is going to happen. so i wouldn't give up the ghost but what i have said is that it is a category 4 hurricane and i still believe it is going to be tough because the mood's tough and the public's not happy with the economy, even though that's picked up slightly. >> okay. well, i hope you take a break from all your polls on wednesday night and sit yourself in front of the tv and watch that game. >> you are great, alex. thanks. >> bye, pete per. for the latest political news from inside the beltway and around the country, always head to first read.msnbc.com. opening arguments in the chandra levy murder trial is scheduled to begin tomorrow. levy, of course, 294-year-old intern who went missing in washington, d.c. back in 2001. her remains were found about a year later in a remote area of a park. the case made national headlines because of levy's relationship with former congressman gary condit who could be the star witness now in the case. an illegal immigrant from el salvador is charged with levy's murder. a shocking discovery on the campus of georgetown university, where officials say they

uncovered a dorm room drug lab, students were producing dmt, a powerful hallucinogenic. student does not believe it and officials say it indeed posed a real danger. >> what you have here are various chemicals and mix of chemicals and then you head them up. if it is not properly ventilated, you know it could be a problem not only for ventilation but also explosion. >> hundreds of students were forced to evacuate as police dogs searched the dorms. the university says there are no signs of any of the other chemicals having spread. the death toll has risen to more than 200 in haiti from a spreading outbreak of cholera. more than 2,000 others are sick and there are continued concerns about the rising number of cases near the capital of port-au-prince, where hundreds of thousands of earthquake survivors are housed. the outbreak is the worst health crisis in the country since that january 12th earthquake. now let's get a look at the weather and many parts of the country will see a chance of rain today with snow in the mountains to the west. the weather channel's mike sidle

is in chicago's soldier field. and why? well that is because the redskins are going up against the bears this afternoon. look at you, mike, surrounded by babes and guys all happy to be at a football game what is it like otherwise? >> we have the bears fans here, that's right, alex. [ cheering ] excited about the game. we have a little shower now. let's pan up here, we have some blue sky over chi town, a passing shower, a rainbow. let's talk about the national weather first then we will talk to the fans. first, west coast, big storm on the west coast, seattle, wind and rain n fact that game at quest field will be a wet one, saturday hawks. down the coast, dry weather from san francisco to l.a. in the plains, dry, very windy by tuesday and wednesday, storms on the west coast, the big wind producer from minneapolis,

chicago, fargo, the whole area going to get wind-blown tuesday and wednesday, severe weather across parts of arkansas, texas and oklahoma, as the east coast is in pretty good shape for now again, storms will be moving in the first part of the week. so that is kind of the national broad brush. we are here with the bears fans and you have got your -- boy that is some high-priced rain gear. like a giant baggy. >> i'm trying to stay really warm so i brought my vest and biggest porch oechl. >> really warm you know how warm it is? in the 60s in chicago, almost halloween what are you going to do in a couple months? at home in front of the tv, right? >> yes. yes. >> what is your take on the bears game? >> going to win today. >> how bad? how bad are the redskins going down? >> two touchdowns. >> i say seven points. i'm a little conservative. tlufrnlt go alex, kind of a snapshot of what's going on here outside soldier field in chi town, the bears take on the redskins, soldier field. >> pretty happy, rowdy bunch there okay. enjoy the games. i know you always do mike

seidel. thanks so much. and owl you can enjoy the game, watch "football night in america" which starts at 7 eastern followed by sunday night football when the vikings return to lambeau field to take on the packers. that is all there for you tonight on nbc. it is a large group of voters that might be under the radar that could play a divisive role in the midterms. that is coming up next. also ahead, it was the passion for a young man chasing a dream but this morning, family, friends and teammates of this championship swimmer are in mourning. you are watching msnbc sunday.

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with the midterms approaching, president obama is looking to voters that deliver nerd 2008 to do the same next week, but it may be a different group that actually drives decision 2010. i spoke with npr senior analyst cokie roberts about the election. you were saying that this whole election may come down to the 55-plus voters. why is that? >> well, it is an off-year

election. we often see in elections without a president al candidate on the ballot is that older voters show up at the polls in much greater numbers than younger voters. and you know, even in 2008 when barack obama, the candidate, made such a pitch to the young votes, they didn't show up in any -- anything like the numbers of older voters. the difference in that election was that they just voted so heavily for obama that they made a difference. they are much less likely to show up in this election and so what you have is energized, angry older voters likely to flock to the poles. >> cokie, angry over what? health care, social security, the bummer news last week for the second year in a row, there will be no cost of living increase? >> right. well, it is both of those but it is also jobs, just like everybody else. for older voters, not only are

they concerned about their own jobs but the jobs of their kids and grandkids. lots of college graduates moving back in with their families, those kinds of things happening, but you know, if you are over 50 or over 65 and looking for a job, it is much harder to find one. and if you -- if you're frightened about losing the one you have, you get very nervous about the possibility of a new job. and so that is something that we are hearing lot, particularly as people feel that they can't retire, the value of their homes is not what it once was if they are lucky enough to have something like a 401(k), that's not worth what it once was. so there's a lot of fear out there and that fear turns to anger at the politicians and among older voters, real anger, you know, people saying, just

get rid of these guys, bring in a whole new group, bring in people who have never been in office before. >> to that end, cokie, do you think the white house has not answered the questions the economy? should or cot administration have been more aggressive with its message on that front? >> probably. and i think the president is trying to do that now, as he is out on the campaign trail for democratic candidates. but there's also a lot of contradiction here, you know? most voters don't understand that what they hate, they call the bank bailout that t.a.r.p. program, was enacted under president bush. and in fact, a lot of banks have pay it had back. but that's still got people furious and the stimulus package, which most economists will tell you actually did help the economy earlier in the year still has people angry because they think that it was wasteful government spending and the

amount of money the government is spending has a lot of people very worried. so all of it together just adds up to frustrated and angry voters, particularly older voters. >> thanks to cokie roberts of retirement living tv. get the latest from polls to the buzz on the campaign trail from first read.msnbc.com. new developments in week in the nationwide foreclosure crisis but will it bring any hope to beleaguered homeowners? ♪ [ growls ] ♪ ♪ [ polar bear grunting ] [ growls ] [ male announcer ] introducing the 100% electric nissan leaf. innovation for the planet. innovation for all. [ male announcer ] introducing the 100% electric nissan leaf. ready to try something new? campbell's has made changes.

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sandler, the co-chairman of buckley sand letter llp and adviser with tremendous yant risk advisers. >> tremendous lie yant. >> thanks for being here. can you give us a prime mer how we got into this mess? >> the way we got into this was the subprime crisis, economic crisis that we had. and a sit of circumstances are everybody in the system originators, investors, borrowers, got caught up in a situation where they thought that interest rates would never go up and home prices would never go down. when those two things happen and the business cycle became apparent, many, many people got themselves in trouble. sometime these didn't understand the loan, sometime these did.

they were no longer able to pay. >> how did we get to the points sometimes we wouldn't know who was owning the loan on a house. how does that happen? >> i don't think that's what really has happened, alex. what's happened is in places like ohio, florida, california, foreclosure attorneys and mortgage servicers dealing with 10, 15, 20 foreclosures a week all of a sudden had hundreds and hundreds of foreclosures on their desk n trying to process those, sometimes the right things weren't done in terms of documenting mortgage titles, affidavits weren't approached the right way and there were many technical deficiencies but it is not really a situation where we don't know who owned the loan. >> two wiese here, does that mean that homeowners not default were losing homes and then does this allow homeowners in default who faced foreclosure to stay in

their homes to keep them? >> well, alex, it is a situation where notwithstanding these technical difficulties, by and large, the vast majority of the loans that are being foreclosed on involve borrowers who are, in fact, in default on those loans. and so those foreclosures ultimately will proceed. we are hearing lots of talk about moratoriums and other ways to slow down the process and that might well happen, but at the end of the day, because the vast majority of bore three we were talking about have, indeed, defaulted on their loans, those north those homes will be foreclosed on. >> what about the domino effect, andy, for people whose homes were supposed to be foreclosed upon, they have been stopped at this point, they were potential sales there of these homes, all the paperwork in the pike, you know, all that -- the domino effect here, is it huge? >> alex, i don't think so.

i think what we are really talking about is some significant and perhaps costly delays in the process, but all of the mortgage servicers and the foreclosure lawyers and the courts and everybody else involved in the process are working with through the issues to perfect the information and the documents and once that's done, all of these foreclosures will indeed proceed. >> andy, you had -- bank of america just saying a bit ofary week ago, hey, we are putting you the brakes on all of these right now, 100,000 or so, now there is the green light. are you confident that bank of america has gone through its system and fixed those problems so that as it moves forward it is doing so with the right authority to do so? >> alex, i'm not in a position or inclined to comment on any particular backe or servicer, but i can speak generally to that point. an awful lot of work is being done currently by all of the

banks and servicers, they are working through those back logs and yes, i think that we are getting -- some already have a real high level of confidence that they are got it right and are able to establish that for judges and regulators, others are getting very close. so, i don't anticipate we are going to see much delay and i think people -- the regulators and the courts and those who need to pass on these foreclosures will develop confidence that the process is working and that only borrowers who are, indeed in default on their loans are going to be subject to foreclosure. >> okay. an dry sandler, co-chairman of buckley sander and adviser also with tremendous lie yant risk advisers, thank you of. >> good to be with you. people in earthquake-stricken haiti have a disaster in their countries and it could get a whole lot worse.

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it is msnbc sunday, i'm alex witt. at 31 past the hour, here are your five fast headlines. president obama wrapped up a four-day campaign swing in minnesota yesterday and will go to rhode island tomorrow. in haiti, an outbreak of cholera killed 200 people and sickened close to 2700 others. health officials are trying to keep that disease from reaching camps where earthquake survivors are living. we will have more on this in just a moment. in kenya, a stampede at a soccer match leaves seven people dead. they were run over by people trying to force their way into that stadium. an environmental group has filed suit in hopes of getting that federal ban on deepwater drilling reinstated. it was imposed after gulf oil spill and lifted last month. and the san francisco giants are heading to the world series after beating the philadelphia phillies last night. the giants will take on the texas rangers in the fall classic. and those are your fast five

headlines. president obama is racking up thousands of mile in his extended midterm campaign push, you look at the recent eye tinry it is no coincidence where he is touching down. ten states are on the map from california to rhode island, all of them places he won back in 2008. let's bring in ab stoddard, columnist for the hill. hello to you. >> hi, alex. >> we get to talking to 2008 first off, the president campaigned off this, vowing to move past the partisan politics. looking that the campaign map, does it tell you a different story today? >> oh, yes, it is not a good one for the democrats. as you know, president obama swept the swing states of pennsylvania, indiana, north carolina, ohio, of course, and florida. democrats doing poorly in all of those places, repairing for big losses there that is not a good sign for president obama as he looks to 2012, but we even see republicans making inroads in places from california to

massachusetts. this is a different map. the democrats are losing in the southful they are losing in the rust belt, in the midwest, very doub troubling for them. >> they are concerned the democratic party will be concentrated on two coasts, looking it college towns and urban cities, but coasts, college towns is that a valid worry? >> of course it is. they are going to become marginalized and regional party just like they have kept telling us the republicans would be, if they lose -- suffer huge losses in the midwest south and are just isolated on the coast and in certain urban centers if they lose white, working class voters, alex they can't be a majority party. at this point, you saw president obama whip white men if they were members of unions in the 2008 election, but he lost white men who were not in the midterm election, we know is going to be more male, going to be older and going to be whiter than the 2008

election. so that is troubling for next week for democrat bus looking to president obama's prospects in '12, long-term prospects for the party, they need to be represented all around the country in order to be a majority party. >> looking ahead to next week what is the best strategy for the president and democrats to keep control of the house? >> what we were talking about earlier, anger, the partisans on the left, get them out of the car, off the couch and to the ballot box it is the only way that they can win on the margins and try to stave off losses, may not mean that they hold the house but it certainly means they can help with their numbers and it really has to do with firing up their own base. at this point, independents are going to vote for republicans or probably going to stay home but democrats need to get their own voters out. >> okay. the president, in fact, of then cites high unemployment, the reason behind the voter anger out there, a.b. is there something to it something the white house is missing? >> there is. we have talked about the troubled asset relief program, the four-letter word known as t.a.r.p. it was passed under the bush administration, but $700 billion

voters were very upset about that. we headed right into as 787 billion stimulus program, a new health care entitlement. what they see is a growth in the reach of government, a growth in government spending, they don't like it and they are very angry about t and it comes during insecure and scary economic times for most americans, so, if you combine those, not just unemployment, the fact they see a government out of control. >> are you willing to put a prediction out there for november 2nd in terms of the house, let's say? >> i think that the republicans take the house with pickups of mid-40s into the 50s, i'm not 560-person, not bullish on the 65-seat prediction. i think the democrats hold the senate but only by a squeak. it is going to be -- it's gonna be probably 51, 52-seat senate and i think the republicans take the house. >> okay, ab sod regar bchlb sto

have you back next week. >> change my predictions. >> thank you, alex. 100 people marched in new york city last night to protest a string of violent attacks against gays and lesbians. lieutenant dan choi participated, kicked out of the national guard because he is gay. >> here in our own country, we are plagued with the same violence that roots from assault hatred. >> there have been 50 reports of gay attacks in the city this year. an american world champion swimmer has died in competition overseas. 26-year-old fran crippen, you are going to see him here in tape from 2003, he was competing saturday in an open water competition just south of dubai. he didn't finish and was found in the water two hours later. fellow competitors all described the conditions for the race as unusually hot. in fact, crippen had told a former coach the water was 87 degrees.

>> swimmers started weeping openly. they were sad because one of their also gone missing and now they found him and they knew what was obvious. so, the people were consoling each other, hugging each other. >> swimming officials say that crippen died of overexertion and denied reports add heart attack during that race. swimming officials canceled an upcoming open water event in the same location as the investigation continues. aid workers in haiti say they are worried about a cholera outbreak in a rural part of the country that may be spreading toward earthquake victim his the capital. the death toll has risen to 200 from the outbreak. more than 2700 others are sick. nbc producer frank thorpe is in port-au-prince are with the latest and joinsist by phone. another good morning to you, frank. the greatest concern right now, a little bit late near your sunday morning, what are you hearing that as being?

>> need to get the message out to people -- symptoms of cholera. [ inaudible ] five cases of cholera have been found inside port-au-prince, capital city, where most the cases, all the cases, found in the northern region of the country where this cholera epidemic has started. >> frank, with regard to cholera it is plead spread through contaminated water and you said worrying about coming into contact with other people and you are talking about tent cities, in effect, which have hundreds of thousands of people living in them. >> that's correct. we have 1.3 million people living in tent camps right now. and water and sanitation is a huge problem. you know, people get their water -- they can't drink the water that is coming out of the city water system here.

and people are practically living on top of each other. the situation, they are really trying to make sure that people are aware of that they need to stay away from people showing symptoms of cholera, make sure they boil their water if they are not getting it from a truck. if this spreads into the tent camps, people are going to catch it like wildfire, next to each other, all eating from the same place, all drinking from the say same place it could be a disaster. >> yeah. frank talk about the fear that you sense among the resident there is and how aware they are of this problem. >> the people here are acutely aware of the problem but not aware what the actual issue s i think a lot of people are starting to get concerned about the water situation. [ inaudible ]

all about messaging, getting water out to these people because everybody is talking about it. it is -- and they are all aware of it but need to know exactly what they need to do to make sure they don't catch the cholera. >> nbc producer frank thorpe, thank you for the update from haiti. it is an alarming combination of drinking and dieting, an eating disorder that affect flekts both women and men. the dangers of drunk arex ya, next on msnbc sunday. s both wom the dangers of drunk arex ya, next on msnbc sunday. ♪ ♪ you look like an angel ♪ look like an angel [ laughs ] ♪ walk like an angel

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a report in the south florida "sun-sentinel" says disturbing new trend is popping up on college campuses across this country. several universities say they are dealing with drunkarexia. that is where students go out drinking, then try to cut calories by eating very little or nothing at all. in other words, it is the practice of swapping food calories for those you will consume in alcohol. joining me live here in studio, psychologist jeff gardere and nbc contributor and cop tributer to health career.com. good morning. >> good morning. >> when you think about this, what comes to mind? it people say it is a growing trend, you and i know, dealing with kids in college and so on this is a situation that has been going on for quite some time. i think finally now the colleges, the mental health experts, even the students are starting campaigns to address it and to talk about this whole issue of binge drinking, four or more drinks at any one sitting and caloric restrictions.

in other words, just not eating at all or eating junk food such as hamburgers, pizza and so on as far as its relation to alcohol. so what they end up doing is purging that food or just having salads because they don't want to put on weight but get the empty calories of alcohol, which ends up putting on the weight anyway. so it doesn't work. >> a good point there but do you think it is all particularly for the women about not wanting to gain weight? that's what society's telling us to do at this age? >> yeah, absolutely. i think it is very real for these girls because this is their opportunity, going to college, freedom to be able to differentiate themselves from their parents and don't know what to do with the freedom. the drinking is to relieve a lot of the social anxiety. at the same time, they realize those calories from beer, other forms of alcohol, putting on the weight, but they don't want to put on the weight because they still want to look thin. so it is a double disease here, because we are talking about an

eating disto order and alcohol abuse, not a good combination. >> there's emotional problems that can come from this as well as the physical problems, right? >> absolutely. because we already know that. there are 10 million women who have eating disorders. 40% of the newer cases of eating disorders are with women 16 to like 21 years old. so when they are off at college and they are binge drinking in this way and then they are doing it on an empty stomach, not only are we afraid of alcohol poisoning, but then all of the things that go along with drinking alcohol and now the alcohol is much more potent, so we are talking about acting out sexually. we are talking about passing out. so, there are a whole host of issues this come along with this. >> and for an older set, say, of women, for example, who are doing this they drink their calories away, do you think a lot of the reason that they are not gonna eat as well is more related to keeping thin or more

related to they are drinking because of more emotional problems at that stage? >> a combination of those things. as we get older, we have issues with anxiety this is a good way in their minds, to be able to medicaid with alcohol, which it really is a bad idea. i mean, there are all sorts of other behavioral things and legal prescription medications that you can take to help with you that. alcohol is not the answer. but at the same time, not only has it helped them through those issues but there's also the tremendous pressure in looking a certain way. it's not how you feel, it's how you look and people prescribe to that. >> okay. jeff gardere, as always, thanks for walking us through this one. drunkarexia. drinking does top today's yes it's true, not one but two studies show more intelligent people drink more. not only do they consume more alcohol than letters intelligent folks but drink more often do we like that? i don't know if we like that one, jeff. moving on, when it comes to generosity, women have it all over men, that is trues according to researchers at the

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pop star katy russell and russell brand have tied the knot at a tiger zoo. about 80 guests watched the ceremony. india is also where they got engaged earlier this year so we wish them well. the nfl hand out woefr $250,000 in fines after a rush of injuries last week. let's play this. >> first and ten. polama polamalu. oh, my goodness. harrison again. >> well, steelers linebacker was find is 75,000 for that head shot. another hit to robinson who leveled eagles' desean jackson. both players left that game and robinson got himself a $50,000

fine. this week the league vowed to start suspending players for hard hits. a former nfl player meryl is the author of "find a way, three words that changed my life." how are you? >> i'm good. how are you? >> merril, you left the nfl after a series of hard hits. do you think it's posing a serious concern right now? >> for fans who don't quite understand this, do you try to target an hit your opponent as hard as you can, but how you go about it fundamentally has been the key. that's been lost. you just saw robinson. harris harrison's hit. the one thing had a stands out there. is the target area, the shoulder, head area and how they hit them. they lead with their forearms or lead with the shoulder. if you teach the fundamental way to tackle somebody, is it that

you target the hip number area, sink your hip, bend your knees, strike them with your shoulder pad and then the one element we are losing in football, especially in the national football league, you bring your arms. it's the art of tackling. it's fundamentally how you do it. guess what? within those fundamentals, you can hit that opponent as hard as you can possibly hit him. but you change the target zone and use the correct fundamentals. we will never eliminate helmet-to-helmet contact because of the speed. >> what do you think of joe paterno's recommendation to remove face masks to stop players from tackling with their heads. >> it's ridiculous. it's a witch hunted. joe has been around for a long time. if you think of the art of football, and the art of football is about striking your

opponent, not just defenders hitting offensive players. when i was a running back, i wanted to target my opponent, too. i wanted to hit him, i dip my shoulders, i use my arms, what we call a flipper. i use my shoulder pad and try to strike the guy trying to tackle me with my shoulder pad. the fundamentals i just talked about trying to tackle, you demand players use those fundamentals. as coaches you support it, you encourage it, you teach it and emphasize it, this is not just a player issue, it's a coaching issue as well. >> but you also had the steelers' james harrison threatening to quit after that fine levied against him but he's saying big hits is what gets people big salaries. is that true? >> james harrison misses the point here. you can still get big-time hits doing it fundamentally correctly. you don't want to take your

forearm and lead it to the head of an opponent. first of all, that has never, ever ever been taught in the history of our game. you go to any nfl practice, you will never see a drill executed like that even in college. if you did, we got it get rid of those coaches and those coaches should be suspend and/or fined in the national football league. so it's what players enup doing during the course of the game to inflicted more punishment on the opponent when you can inflict punishment by doing it the correct way. >> merril hoge, good to see you, i'll see you with more news in 30 minutes. ring ring ring ring

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