tv Countdown With Keith Olbermann MSNBC November 9, 2010 11:00pm-12:00am EST
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much for joining me tonight. >> thanks, lawrence. >> you can have the last word online at our blog, the last word.msnbc.com and you can follow my tweet tweets@lawrence. oh. hi. so what's new? i don't want to minimize my gratitude to you for the kind of support usually for chilean miners. i'll talk about that, and my adventures later in the show. but i read in a couple of places this has to have been a publicity stunt. this was not a publicity stunt. of course if i had known that all this would happen i would have done this years ago!
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which of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow? the president and the word "jihad." he's just not bloodthirsty enough for the radical right. >> the phrase jihad has a lot of meanings within islam. it's subject to a lot of different interpretations. >> mr. obama delivers platitudes. >> this great religion in the hands of a few extremists has been distorted to justify violence. >> why couldn't he say jihad killed 3,000 americans. >> do you mean the way president bush was unflinching about it in 2005. >> they extort jihad into a call for terrorist murder. >> what the right is really saying. the esident-pray is an uslim-may. our investigation reveals mr. obama's real religion.
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his favorite team, the chicago bulls, who just happen to play in the same division as the milwaukee bucks whose arena just happened to be known as the mecca. coincidence? the wall street shuffle. big business's latest fix. avoiding taxes on the big bonuses. my special guest michael moore. including his response to shots taken at him by president bush in his new autobiography. bush versus reality. waterboarding? >> if it's legal, president bush, and if an american is taken into custody in a foreign country, not necessarily in uniform. >> i'm not going to debate the issue, matt. >> the tea party rallies against michelle backman. ron paul endorses her opponent. plus -- >> backman is a loud mouth. >> so how was your weekend? >> msnbc has a hard and fast
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rule that political donations represent bias in journalism unless you ask first. >> all the news and commentary now on "countdown." >> ready? here we go. good evening from new york. this is tuesday, november 9. 728 days before the 2012 presidential elections. president obama spent the night in indonesia. this leg of his ten-day asian tour cut short preventing him from visiting homes where he lived between the ages of 6 and 10, where the schools -- catholic and secular -- where he attended. the trip will advance cooperation in the fight against terrorism but mr. obama came under fire at home for failing to use anti-islamic rhetoric. the trip cut short to prevent the airborne volcanoic ash of mount merapi from interfering with the takeoff for the g-20
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summit in korea. the president who was disappointed in the muslim world by doubling down on afghanistan may be arguing to muslims that he believes the u.s. is on the right path to eliminate some of the mistrust of the u.s. of course obama's boyhood years gave fodder for those claiming he's a muslim despite the fact that his first school there was named saint francis of assisi. people have seized on his remarks about jihad. in other country plagued by terrorism, india. >> what is your take or opinion about jihad? or jihadi, what do you think of them? >> well, the phrase jihad has a lot of meanings within islam.
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and it's subject to a lot of different interpretations. i think all of us recognize that this great religion in the hands of a few extremists has been distorted to justify violence towards innocent people that is never justified. >> on fox news last night, though mr. obama's phrasing may help win muslims to our side though he's attacking al qaeda, president obama was criticized for not tossing, quote, most americans some saber rattling. >> while soothing words can help persuade peace-loving muslims that we are not the enemy i will submit to you that most americans don't want that exclusively. mr. obama has attacked al qaeda and is not backing down in afghanistan from the taliban. but he will not define the overall jihad problem in any meaningful way at all. >> perhaps you would like to
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look up the word, sir. it was the bush administration that decided not to talk about, quote, jihad. karen hughes, quote, whenever they hear islamic extremists, jihad, fundamentalism they perceive it as an attack on their faith or, as president bush put it -- >> these extremists extort jihad into a call for terrorist murder. some call this evil islamic radicalism, others jihadism and others islamofascism. whatever it is called, this ideology is very different from the religion of islam. >> for an assessment of the nonsemantic war of terrorism by president obama let's turn to the executive director of the national security network. thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks, keith. it's great to be with you. >> let's get that point out of the way first. what do critics want mr. obama to say about jihad and what are the meanings of the term? >> just real quick, what jihad
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means is an inner struggle to purify yourself or a holy struggle for a moral end. who are we kidding? obama's critics don't want to talk theology. there is nothing he could say that would be strong enough for them. >> the nuance the president has shown on the issue seemed to be, to some degree, understood well by president bush. why is it -- why was he so careful in phrasing it that way? is that important, relevant to fighting al qaeda and its offshoots and the sympathies for them? >> well, the terrorists want nothing more than to have status within islam as holy people. using the word jihad, which is how they want to be described as turning murderers into martyrs and saints which they don't deserve and bush understood that. the 2006 counter terrorism strategy understood that. it's really not controversial to say why would you give murderers what they want? by the way, who are the biggest
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victims of al qaeda? muslims. who do we depend on to give us tips and answers and help us track terrorists and prevent attacks? muslims. why does it matter to talk to regular muslims in a way that shows we understand they are not the problem? because it's the single most important thing we can do to keep ourselves safer. this shouldn't be controversial. >> to answer what mr. hannady said he asked why he couldn't say jihad killed 3,000 americans. read that to me for the effect on those people. >> if you are a teenage girl in india and you want to know do you understand about the threat threat in india to muslims and nonmuslims, do you understand what al qaeda is doing in our country, in pakistan, do you see muslim as more than ker chief-waving killers? you say what we know about islam is some of you killed 3,000 about us. that shows you don't know
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anything about the world outside your country. i don't know what sean wants but that's not what americans want the president to do. >> he wants money. when it comes to shooting them, capturing them, stopping their plans, how, in fact, does president obama stack up against president bush in that regard? >> well, it's very instructive to run through the numbers. if you like killing, drone strikes killed more than twice as many terrorists in the 18 months of this administration and in the last four years of the bush administration. if you're the kind of person who prefers convicting terrorists then the courts have convicted more terrorists than military tribunals did, again, in the last four years of the bush administration. if you like deterring terrorists, then you will be happy to know that jihadi chat boards are full of people complaining that osama bin laden and al zawahari have gone silent so as not to be tracked by the drones.
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obama's counter terrorism policy does pretty well. so we have to fight about semantics. there is nothing else to know about. >> does his background give him cover in taking an aggressive stance not alienating the moderates? >> it did give him cover at first. he built on his background to go out and talk to muslims at every opportunity in cairo at the u.n. and indonesia and say, i understand who you are. i understand the greatness of your civilization and i see you as more than the source of murderers and, by the way, we are going to track the murderers aggressively. that was working well for a while. you ever starting to see here at home especially some blowback that sadly limits how much he can be an ambassador to the world. >> heather hurlburt, thanks. most illuminating. >> thank you. >> cutting to the chase,
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underlying the specific criticisms of president obama is the allegation that he's a muslim. that his secret muslim faith is part of a plan to put a secret muslim in the white house to carry out the secret muslimification of america. we were intrigued and shocked -- shocked, i tell you -- by what we found when we looked into -- as you will see it all began when obama's father seeded his son with islaminess. the muslim-seeded toddler engineered the divorce of his parents to prevent people from learning that his father was muslim. in his book, obama claims that by then his father was no longer muslim. instead portrayi americans -- an athiest. ama still claims not to know whether his grandfather was sunni or shiite.
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but he sure looks sunni. to keep up appearances, obama cleverly violated his islamic faith whenever he could, fooling everyone by never going to mecca, breaking the fast of ramadan, eating pork, drinking alcohol, having a christian wedding, baptizing his children, worshiping at christian churches for decades. he only faces mecca from way downtown. bang goes the dynamite. he even sent his daughters to a school. a fancy washington school that was really a madrasa, a fancy washington madrasa. he never had a beard except for the jewish people he cleverly picked out to carry out his secret muslim agenda, his white house chief of staff and supreme
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court justice. the plan was working perfectly. but there were clues for those willing to do the incredibly hard work of seeing them. as a radical muslim youth he ran an islamic journal whose arabic name translates as harvard law review. islam permits men to take a number of wives and that's exactly what barack obama did. the number he picked was one. and a woman with an arabic name, michelle robinson, who insists on wearing a burqa. his favorite team, the chicago bulls who just happen to play in the same division as the milwaukee bucks whose arena just happened to be known as -- the mecca. coincidence? and what about his legislative agenda.
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he openly practices chicago-style politics just like the taliban does. extending benefits for the unemployed, including muslims. expanding health care for all including every single muslim in the country. unless already covered by an employer health care plan. to this day, president obama continues to refuse to bomb not just one but many muslim countries. he even refuses to close his secret tropical paradise safe haven for muslims just 90 miles from america's shores. obama nearly let the cat out of the bag on several occasions, openly attacking a long-time christian leader, thanking his coconspirators for keeping his secret a secret. >> john mccain has not talked about my muslim faith.
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>> outlining his dream of an islamic america. >> we'd be one of the largest muslim countries in the world. >> and bragging about how much he's done already. >> we are no longer a christian nation. there is a mosque in every state in our union. >> if few seem to care that obama is america's first secret muslim president, it might be due to the popularity of america's first openly muslim president who won america's heart by turning the white house into a virtual mosque. >> this is the fifth year in a row that it's been my honor to host an iftar in the state dining room. >> revealing how he came to embrace allah. >> the revelation of god's word to the prophet mohammed in the koran. >> using the english word for allah, god, he talked about the bush family holidays. >> ramadan is a time of heartfelt prayer and togetherness.
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>> explained how islam helps america through tough times. >> it is an obligation to assist one's neighbors when in need. >> and outlined his master plan to make america more islamic. >> i have encouraged american families to host exchange students from the muslim world. i have asked young americans to study the customs and language of the middle east. >> after getting rid of the white house bibles he announced their replacement. >> for the first time in the nation's history we have added a koran to the white house library. >> so the bigamistry isn't president obama's secret islamic faith but why he won't admit to being the second muslim commander-in-chief of the united states of -- mecca. >> islam is peace. >> meanwhile, you can relax. wall street is reformed. that's why the leaders are trying to overturn the rule that is keep them and all addicted gamblers out of the casinos n. their case the risky deal that is served everyone so well in 2008.
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the most powerful bankers in america came together yesterday and began to work out how to regain the right to do what they did when they crashed the economy in late summer 2008 so america's biggest banks can undercut the new wall street ruls and get in there and restart the risky trading and speculating which they spectacularly suck. the chief lobbyist for wall street banks and financial firms said, quote, our focus here is to help. reuters reports that the chief executive of morgan stanley complained about, quote, rhetoric, aimed at wall street and speaking after angry americans voted against bailouts said the banks need more time. he said you need more time to accumulate the capitals you need. bonuses are up from last year. morgan stanley not the only group that belongs to the association. others include j.p. morgan chase, goldman sachs, bank of america. you get the idea.
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so what is it that they want to help with? turns out the same thing the republicans want. as we reported last week the kay day after the election, expected new chairman spencer backus recommended weak enforcement of the rule which keeps banks out of the risky businesses including proprietary trading, banks gambling with your money and their own. they are interested in the rule's effect on trading. here's a quote from tim ryan. mother jones reports sifma asked bank regulators to study the rule as soon as the first study they asked for is done. if you ting it is only republicans like backus doing the bidding jim webb says he pushed for a vote on a one-time tax on wall street's bailout windfall bonus and e he failed. quote, i got so much froth from
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democrats saying any vote like that was going to screw up fund raising. with us tonight on this documentary film maker michael moore whose works include "capitalism: a love story." good to see you. >> good to see you. next time, form yourself into a corporation. then you can give to whoever as much as you want, nobody cares. if your bosses have a problem they can take it up with skalia. welcome back. >> thank you kindly. thanks for your help. to this larger thing. >> yes. >> the volker rule, why is it so important? >> first of all, i have to say it's so funny that president obama did everything that capitalism in wall street would have wanted him to do. he voted for the bailout. he put their boys in charge -- geithner and sommers. he did the thing with the auto companies, gave them money, did everything they would have wanted him to do.
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and their appreciation of it is to then fund candidates to remove democrats from the house after essentially he saved their ass. >> right. >> it's so ironic and the other irony is that paul volker and the younger people may not remember. he was ronald reagan's guy. so he's now considered the lefty. >> yes. >> by wall street. i just think that what is so absolutely outrageous is they want to lighten up on these things. don't attack us so much. are you kidding me? after what you did to the economy. again, short memory span. let's remind people what they did was they encouraged all of the bank officers and loan officers to give loans, mortgages that they shouldn't have been granting. they resold them, bundled them
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to make money off it and then took bets against those mortgages they knew were going to collapse so they could make even more money. then after the house of cards came down they wanted you and i to pay for it. the fact that they are even asking for this when they should be in prison. >> yes. >> seriously, i just -- >> this is the greatness of capitalism. this is it. oh, we have all the money. print some more. we don't have enough all the money. >> and let me kick you in the face while i do it. >> and charge you for using my boot. >> exactly. is it possible that we are going to see roger clemens in prison before any of the people that created the crash of this? i mean, a guy who -- >> yes. >> yes. >> that's the answer. >> he will go somewhere, but these guys -- >> won't. >> to make it not look like a republican thing only the jim webb claim that bonuses were refused because it would hurt
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democratic fund raising, do you buy that? >> sure. of course. president obama's number one private contributor were the pacs and people connected to goldman sachs. >> yep. >> that's just a fact. that's why i think he was very much in their corner. he was very much willing to carry the water for them, so to speak. he was rewarded with that last tuesday. i hope he comes back now and says, okay, that's enough, boys. we're going to take you on now. >> finally, later on we'll go through what's been mised in the bush autobiography. you're in it. do you want a chance to respond to this craziness? >> yeah. first of all, great to see president bush. it's the short attention span. we needed him a couple weeks ago to remind ourselves who was responsible for the two wars, who was responsible for the crash on wall street, who created this mess that our
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grandchildren will be cleaning up. nice to see him back. i wish nbc itself had a little more balance and a little more -- i mean, not that i'm taking this personally, but he trashes me in the book, makes a reference between osama bin laden and myself. that shows how insane and crazy these republicans are and have gotten. you know, i made a film. this upset him. i made a film and showed how he sat there for seven minutes after he was told the nation is under attack and then he just sit there is reading my pet go. >> he needed to know how it turned out. >> and other things i pointed out in terms of the connection to how the war happened and how he and halliburton and others were going to make money from it. i would love it if my plea if anyone who is watching here at g.e., i will give them for free
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"fahrenheit 9/11" to run on nbc -- >> wow. >> as balance to all the publicity they have been giving president bush and his answers about the worst thing that happened was kanye west. i hope we never forget what the man did. parents, tonight, thousands of them sit at home. their children no longer with them because of a war that was essentially a lie. so that's my answer to mr. bush. >> a hell of an answer it is. michael moore, it's a pleasure to have you back. >> it's nice that you're still here. please don't leave. >> good to see you, my friend. wish i were in the book. michelle backman is thrown under the bus by fox and the symbolic leader of the tea party. this alone was worth coming back for. [ woman ] you know, as a mom,
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as far as straight-up conservativism goes there isn't much daylight between michele bachmann and her opponent in the race to be the next house republican spokesperson but michele bachmann the founding member, her hopes of being the fourth ranking republican in the house appear to be in trouble. she told politico, i have been
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able to bring a voice and motivate people to put the gavel in john boehner's hands so the republicans can lead going forward. she brings a voice all right. she claims. the she doesn't have the support of pence, cantoregon ryan. today rand paul endorsed henserling. asked about the tide against her she told fox pac about her creative idea to get her message to the peoples. >> what does it signal when you hear from party leadership that say they want someone else and not you? >> well, i think that again we need to make sure the house leadership reflects charting a new course which the american people want us to do. i bring new energy, new ideas. i have been very successful in effectively communicating with people across the country. for instance i would love to see our members have at least
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100,000 people on their facebook page. >> great. now henserling will steal twitter. the tribune decimated her leadership bid in an editorial saying she's specialized in nothing but campaign falsehoods the most recent is the claim that president obama spent $200 million a day on his trip to india. her 40 plus appearances on fox news raise a question. how would she have time for additional house leadership responsibilities? her time is spent caucusing with sean hannity and glenn beck. snap. >> there is no difference on policy that i can tell between henserling and michele bachmann at all. she's a loud mouth. >> joining me is nonloud mouth chris hayes. good evening, chris. >> good evening. >> the highest profile tea party member in the house, the person who founded its caucus pushed aside.
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explain the significance, please. >> well, look. here is the thing about leadership elections. they are a lot like student body elections. they generally are not decided on grand ideological questions but on personal popularity and relationships. you see it when you have the leadership fights. there is a tendency to read in ideological va lance to it. but in terms of what's going on with hoyer clyburn. i don't think there are a lot of stakes in it. it say it is colleagues of michele bachmann aren't crazy about her. >> so she's just kind of a darker haired tracy flick. >> right. >> we saw many of the tea party candidates for senate once scrutinized after their primaries. o'donnell, buck, angle collapsed under the bhiet light and scurried away. is this happening to michele bachmann that she's getting scrutiny she never had to endure?
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>> in some ways she got scrutiny up front. in 2008 she said the crazy thing to chris matthews about the investigation of the un-americanness. she managed to turn what should have been a safe election into a hotly contested one. her opponent at the time raised a million dollars over the internet in a short time. she narrowly survived that. since then she's only gotten stronger. partly because of the weird media complex that is the fox news republican party symbiosis. you have a cluster of figures that are both politicians and media figures. michele bachmann is the only sitting representative who's in that universe. >> the news from the senate in this day of weirdness from the tea party, mr. demint says he has the support of ten senators. among them is rand paul. over the weekend in the wall
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street journal they wrote paul will fight for kentucky's share of earmarks and federal pork as long as it is doled out transparently. the poll people say that's not what he meant but is rand paul already selling out? is he? >> i love this story. >> me, too. >> from the beginning it was clear. there was always a narrative about the class of 1994 and the gingrich revolution that we were going to change washington, have term limits for congress, ban earmarks and do this stuff. of course they just became totally corrupt people who used them to get big lobbying contracts. now they say, no, this time forget what happened last time. this time it's the real deal. you are going to see the exact same thing happen. earmarks is -- i don't think it is a big policy issue with huge stakes. it's a sliver of the budget.
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but on the kind of quickness of the road to ruin for the supposed ideological purity of the new republican class i would bet a lot of money that they will not get rid of earmarks. mitch mcconnell is one of the top earmark getters in congress. it's a good thing to keep an eye on. >> earmarks? we thought you meant curl marks. run with it. chris hayes of the nation. thanks. >> thank you, keith. >> mitch mcconnell told him to withdraw troops in 2006 to help republicans in the midterms. other gems falling out of the bush autobiography like bed bugs. details, and jokes about the -- you know -- and when rachel joins you don't be lame in the lame duck. do something. tax cuts, repeal, dadt.
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introspection, george bush hopes that will influence your decision to buy his book. his memoir decision points is now out. as we hear more from his interview with matt lauer and a sit-down with oprah winfrey. continuing his decision to continue reading "my pet goat" with school children after learning the country was under attack. >> i will not say i wasn't in shock. they can read and draw their own conclusion. >> following 9/11 for his decision not to go to war with iraq partly because he's still trying to link hussein to weapons of mass destruction. >> we would not have gone to war had there not been a case of weapons of mass destruction. >> he was a threat. the interesting thing that happened after he was removed is we had a team of inspectors who reported that he was equally dangerous. we may not have found the vials
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but he had the capacity to make weapons. >> is this before or after he was dead? mr. bush also explained the decision to torture. >> so i said to our team are the techniques legal and a legal team said, yes, they are. i said, use them. >> why is waterboarding legal? >> because the lawyers said it was legal. it did not fall within the anti-torture act. i'm not a lawyer. but you're got to trust the judgment of people around you, and i do. >> mr. bush dismissing criticism from tom cane the republican who previously asserted mr. bush got his people to give him legal opinions he wanted. mr. bush's advice for mr. cane, buy the book. >> he obviously doesn't know. i hope he reads the book. that's why i have written the book. they can draw whatever conclusion they want. >> yeah, that's why he wrote it. mr. bush suggesting the so-called techniques saved lives. >> if it's legal, president
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bush, if an american is taken into custody in a foreign country, not necessarily a uniform -- >> look, i'm not going to debate the issue. >> is it okay for a foreign country to waterboard an american citizen? >> just read the book. >> then bush writes mcconnell asked him to bring troops home from iraq before the 2006 midterms to help the republican party out. instead the president increased the number of troops as part of the surge. his decision to be what he characterizes as a pro-life president came from an experience with his pro choice mother. mr. bush detailing, thanks for this, barbara bush's decision to show her teenaged son the remains of her miscarriage. >> no question that affected me, my philosophy that we should respect life. >> and explains everything about him. what about those lives so desperate for helping the chaos following hurricane katrina?
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>> it looked like a nuclear bomb had hit the coast. i shouldn't have flown over and looked. i made a mistake. >> she got him to say "nucular" again. no mistake to call into rush limbaugh. tokyo rose asking mr. bush to weigh in on the papers please law. >> your -- you're trying to get me to make news. i don't want to make news. i want to sell books. >> i endorse this. hell, we all need toilet paper. next, just my luck i get a four-day weekend after the world series is over. yellowbook has always been crucial to your business,
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i'd like to close by discussing something that i'm sure has happened to you dozens of times in your life. you know, when there is a petition federal courting you and you get 22,000 tweets in 72 hours and you are invited to be on television because you aren't on television because they want you on "good morning, america" and "larry king" and "letterman" and you break records on the huffing ton post and you're on the front page of the new york times without being dead or in jail or charlie sheen or something. for me it was a surprise. all i can say is i'm stunned and grateful and it still feels like a universal hug. i owe you three apologies. foremost for having subjected to to this drama. the white house is on the phone for you. seriously? another by having not known by
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observation since it is not in the contract for not making political donations although any rule like that probably isn't legal. the third rule doubles as a correction. it is accurate that i contributed to the campaigns of conway, giffords and gribalba, but the reporting assumed that i donated then interviewed and should have disclosed it when i interviewed. the sequence was the reverse. i didn't think about contributing until hours after the interview. if i had come on the air and said, hey, i contributed to gribalba and giffords and conway knowing the way you responded to stories like the free health care family and the chronic family in tennessee there would have been a lot of donations to them and suddenly then i'm fund-raising for them and we're accidentally fox. however, the day after the donations i included the opponent in the race against congresswoman giffords in the old worst persons segment.
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i never made the connection that he, jesse kelly, was running against her. and i should have made it clear that i had contributed to her or just dropped him from the segment. i apologize to you and mr. kelly. after i play the late night comedians jokes about me which i will do after a few personal thanks. i would like to name all 300,000 signatories to the petition but i can't. anyway, 99% of them were my relatives. i would like to thank the commentaries, reporters and columnists who gave their support or a fair hearing and those with whom my politics don't overlap. william crystal and dana lash probably treated me better than i would have treated them. rick sanchez clearly did that. they get my thanks and respect although they probably wish they didn't. three more. let me thank thomas roberts for filling in and chris hayes for not. and thanks to dear rachel when saying so much when saying
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anything would have been enough. now let the party begin. >> here's a story you may have heard about. msnbc's keith olbermann will be back to work on wednesday after being suspended without pay for giving campaign contributions to democratic candidates which is against the rules at msnbc. see, if only he'd done like spitzer and given his money to hookers. he would have gotten his own prime time show on cnn. see? [ applause ] >> see, john cline? i told you that's how we should have done it. okay. so that was jay. then there was jon stewart. we criticized each other a week back. i have to say i took the spirit of his larger meaning in worst persons and he took mine and described parts of the rally as inartful. back to the subject of me, on that topic jon hit a series of homeruns. >> that's the great thing about america. we all have the freedom to have
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opinions and say and do what we wish. >> msnbc suspended keith olbermann for making political donations. >> almost everybody has that right. it seems friday keith broke a rule by making campaign donations without first obtaining permission from the network because msnbc has a hard and fast rule that political donations represent bias in journalism unless you ask first. >> i read somebody's 10,000 word essay on the ethics of donations and jon boiled it down to 17 with a p.s. of 21 words. >> you learn you manners, boy, i will knock you down to host of headliners & lemgds so fast your head will spin. anyway, olbermann was suspended indefinitely. i mean it's bad enough they suspended his mustache. boom! boom! oh, that was gratuitous. >> no, it wasn't.
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it was a bad mustache. i looked like i was dressed up as ming the merciless from flash gordon. >> there is no telling how long it will be before we see keith olbermann again. >> msnbc says keith will be back on air tomorrow night. [ laughter ] >> lesson learned. yes, msnbc, it's a stupid rule, but at least it was enforced poorly. >> it's not a stupid rule. it just needs debate about it. needs to be adapted to 21st century journalism. to wrap up i think we saw where the system is working for transparency in democracy and where it is failing. i made legal political contributions as a u.s. citizen near midnight eastern. by 10:00 p.m. eastern on thursday november 4 the contributions were public knowledge. that's the point. i gave and you found out and you judged me for good or ill as you felt appropriate.
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