>> what do you miss most about the presidency? >> i miss being the commande in chief. he may miss commander in chief but does the nation miss him? does kanye west apologize for suggesting he is racist? is it apology accepted? airplane, missile or what. why can't any of our top national security officials tell us exactly what caused this contrail. elizabeth smart her description and evidence just unbelievable. we have new details this morning. the stranded carnival cruise ship finally gets some help, including spam. joining the discussion today, hillary clinton, newly elected congressman michael grimm of new york. chris smith and princeton university's melissa harris-perry and nbc news chief legal analyst dan abram. good morning, i'm chris jansing.

this is "jansing & company." breaking news in london where thousands of students are taking to the streets. take a look at what's going on over there. huge protests. live pictures you're seeing over a proposed plan to triple fees. at times things turned violent at the headquarters of conservative party leaders. nbc stephanie gosk is in london watching all the developments for us. what can you elus there? >> chris, the scene you're looking at right here, a group of 3,000, maybe 4,000 students outside of an office building. they were part of a demonstration that the student union estimates about 40,000. they wage siege to this building and houses the headquarters of the conservative party, which is the british prime minister's political party. they smashed the windows and took over the building they had been pushed back by police. what's interesting here is that it seems that the police have been taken by surprise, both by the size of this protest and its

veracity. we saw it first at this building just a few typical city police trying to guard that front door and prevent students from storming in. they were then bolstered by riot police later on. we're hearing from the scene is that the protesters are getting to the end of their march and actually swinging back around and increasing the numbers outside this building. but it's a tense situation. chris? >> we know you'll keep us posted, thank you so much for that update. meantime, one of the stories people are really talking about today. more on the a day and a half after that mysterious object lit up the skies over los angeles, well, the military still can't tell us what it was. was it some kind of missile? maybe even a u.s. intercontinental ballistic missile as robert elsworth sugge suggested. whatever it was, the pentagon insists there was no threat to the u.s. i'm joined now by former pilot and aviation expert jim tilmon. jim, good morning.

>> good morning, chris. >> i'm sure you've seen this footage, what do you think it is? >> i can tell you what i think it is. i certainly don't know and i don't know if anybody knows or is willing to tell us. but it does have the appearance of a contrail. the thing about it is, contrails can be very confusing. you get an optical illusion depending upon your perspective. if you're right underneath it and if you're looking at it latarily, it looks horizontal. it can just as easy look like it's going vertical depending upon your point of view. that being said, let me just say this. you know, lots of things going on in our skies. and we have a place called a skunk works that's out there on the west coast and that's where we developed the sr-71 and the stealth bomber. all those kinds of projects. had we seen one of those before it was released as exactly what

it waw, we would have had a lot of confusion about what was going on and it would have been top secret stuff. >> so, are you suggesting that that may be what's going on here? let me tell you what wehave heard. the navy and air force strongly deny that they fired any kind of missile. north nored as say they had no missile launch and no fast-moving objects in the area. a lot of experts out there. if you talk to eight of them, they have 7 1/2 different opinions. robert elsworth former ambassador to nato says he thinks the u.s. launched an icbm as a show of muscle to asia. why can't we figure this out? >> well, because maybe we're not supposed to. i have been struggling with trying to come up to an answer for this now since it happened. and i can tell you that, you know, a lot of things going on in terms of our national defense that maybe we aren't supposed to know right now. i don't know. i'm speculating simply because

no one has been able so far to come up with a definitive answer as to what's going on. all these agencies that have very sophisticated data available to them. nobody knows. well, somebody does and that somebody is not talking. >> so, now, we're getting to it. somebody knows and they're not talking. if you go on these blogs, there are plenty of opinions out there. jim tilmon, always good to see you. >> good to see you, chris. president bush is for the first time hearing a message directly from kanye west. wasn't quite an apology, but it was something pretty close. bush said the all-time low of his presidency came after hurricane katrina when west said the president didn't care about black people. watch this exchange from "today" show. >> i would tell george bush in my moment of frustration i didn't have the grounds to call him a racist. but i believe that in a situation of high emotion like that, we as human beings don't always choose the right words.

>> he seems to have regret, what is your reaction? >> i appreciate that. i'm not a hater. i don't hate kanye west but i am in an environment where people choose to say things that hurt. >> lynn, do you think that was an apology? a lot of people, frankly, that i heard from and talked to who didn't really like george bush so much as president have found him quite engaging in these interviews. >> yeah, yeah. i think that's right. you can see he's a man who is comfortable in his own skin and he's not a hater. i totally believe him when he says that. so, i think that he is out to sell books. that's what he wants to do right now and he's you can kind of see why people like him. he's not brickly and you can see he would be a likable guy. >> he says, chris, that he doesn't really care about people's opinion and he knows that people who don't like him

probably won't like him after his book, but do you think he's on a charm offensive? >> well, sure. as any out of office politician who has gone through turbulence and unpopular period they want to right the record in their own favor and balance the scales in their view. bush, one-on-one or one on a million speaking as a regular guy has always been an attractive figure. >> he's very charming. >> the controversy with kanye west, it was never about the man hating people. it was about confidence and it was about policy. you know, west thought it was racist. it was really about croneyism and actually troops and rescues on the ground in new orleans. >> matt pressed him on the financial kriss and he said he tried to get congress to do something about fannie and freddie. let me play that exchange for

you. >> my conscious is clear when it came time to recognize an impending problem. >> how much of the blame to you deserve for that economic meltdown? >> any time you're in power and there's a problem, you're going to get blamed. i fully understand that. >> is that a complete enough answer for you, congressman? congressman elect. >> it is at this point. there's no question when the government steps in and tries to orchestrate an outcome or guarantee a result, that's a problem. the nuts and bolts and the backbone of our economy is a free market system. too much government to mention is going to screw that up and fannie and freddie are proof of that. >> does he bear responsibility for what we're seeing right now? because that's what the democrats certainly try to paint with, obviously, not a whole lot of success in the election. >> i think it was a huge mistake for president obama to keep saying that the republicans drove the car into the ditch and the democrats were pulling it out because, clearly, the democrats protected fannie and freddie. and this idea of these big

organizations aligned with democrats, the labor union and the trial lawyers and big corporations being aligned with the republicans leaves the american people with no one who's really representing that and i think that is a real pity and it was a shame that they attack each other and don't take shared blame. >> i want to get another quick piece of sound in and i'll ask you for your reaction. it was president bush talking about the tea party. a lot of people suggesting that he sort of was the impetsmpetus the formation of the tea party. here's what he said. >> did you give birth to the tea party? >> i don't think i was that powerful. i think what gave birth to the tea party severe frustrations in the system in general. again, i understand kind of perceptions, the purpose of this book is to state reality. >> did he, do you think, chris, in way give birth to the tea party? there are a lot of republican

critics who felt that the republicans had gotten away from their fiscal austerity and i'll ask you about this, too, but what was behind a lot of this. >> sure, there are a lot of birth mothers and fathers of the tea party pushing the republicans while he was in washington was not one of the only ones. one of the other interesting things that came out of the bush books, his endorsement of t.a.r.p. it was a choice of the lesser evils. t.a.r.p. used to bash -- >> 50% of people think this was an obama program and former president said it was mine. but is the reason you got involved with tea party values, tea party principles because of what happened when george bush was in office? >> no, i disagree. the frustration came out of the new administration.

the obama administration. nancy pelosi epitomized what people were so frustrated about. that this idea that the people no longer had any power and it's going to be the government's way or no way and that is completely -- >> but the deficit that came out of two wars that weren't paid for. >> right. >> came under george bush. >> well, sure, we had a deficit. but the answer to too much spending is not double the spending again. you know what i'm saying? sure, people were upset that we spent too much, but what was the answer from this administration? grow government and spend more. that's why people were frustrated and angry. we already went down the path of spending too much and now the answer is let's double or triple that spending? that doesn't make sense. people clearly said, we want to stop that spending. >> i know you want to get in, we're out of time. but we'll come back. we have more to talk about. thank you so much. stick around, we've got more with our great panel. meantime, president obama is in seoul, south carolinsi south.

he will attend the g-20 summit. a move some countries argue will harm the overall global recovery by weakening the dollar. earlier the president and first lady visited the largest mosque in southeast asia in jakarta. a place he briefly called home as a child. speaking to college students, the president delivered what was due as a follow-up to his 2002 speech in cairo. >> america is not and never will be at war with islam. instead, all of us must work together to defeat alk qaeda an its affiliates. >> the president said more work needs to be done to reduce u.s. tensions with the muslim world. the battle for alaska is getting even uglier. joe miller is getting closer to senator lisa murkowski. about 11,000 votes now separate the two. now, miller is suing to stop officials from counting any ballots where murkowski's name

is spelled wrong. it looks like they're scrutinizing those ballots closely because murkowski is a write-in candidate. the military has airlifted much-needed food and supply to "splendor." the luxury liner has been stranded since monday no air conditioning, no refrigerator and no hot wattperp. miguel has more from san diego. hello, miguel. >> good morning, good afternoon. that is not what those folks signed up for. tugboats reached "splendor" late yesterday afternoon and towing that boat back here to san diego is certainly going to be a big, long and very slow process. those tug boats can only go four miles per hour. it will take, we're told, until thursday afternoon, thursday evening and potentially even friday for those passengers to get back here to san diego.

there's still a chance they could be detoured back to ensanada. you will recall there are some 4,500 people aboard including passengers and crew. a fire broke out in the engine room early monday morning. all those passengers were told to go to the upper decks diego. once they get back here on land, they have a two-hour bus ride in front of them back to long beach where this cruise is originated from. >> thank you for that update.

elizabeth smart gives graphic details of being bound and described a near rescue that never was. we are at the courtroom. signs out of the silkicone valley the economy might be turning around. why you wish you might be wi working for google today. richard lui explains what we can expect on capitol hill. >> the new wave versus the old guard reads the title. the characters here, mitch mcconal and jim demint. oh, yeah, pork. [ male announcer ] humana and walmart are teaming up

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this is the scene in london. thousands of students protesting because of a plan to increase significantly the cost to go to college there in the uk.

some of these protests have turned violent. a few people have broken windows at political party headquarters. we're going to keep our eye on what's happening there in london and throughout the uk. meantime, evidence of the terrifying night elizabeth smart was taken from her family back in 2002 is being seen for the first time. the u.s. district court in salt lake city released photographs from the case, including pictures of tools that were used to allegedly tie the teenager to a tree. smart spent the last two days telling jurors what she described as nine months in hell. more powerful testimony expected from her today. dan abrams joins us. >> hi, chris. >> she talks about being in a library and a mommed is detective comes up to her and wants to look at her face and very quickly the defendant, brian david mitchell, steps in and says, you can't do that for religious reasons and the homicide detective backs off.

does that help refute the defense claim that this guy is insane? >> again, the fact the standard is did he understand right from wrong? it does seem that he understood he would be in trouble if the police officer comes up. that he would be punished. the defense will say that he doesn't necessarily understood it was wrong. no doubt that this is one of the pieces that helps the prosecution show that this is someone who was not so out of it that he did not realize effectively what he was doing but he knew exactly what he was doing and what the ramifications would be. >> she also talked on the stand about seeing mitchell pack a bag with the exact same things he had and was wearing on the night that he kidnapped her and he apparently used it to try to abduct her cousin who lived in another part of salt lake city. again, does that go to his ability to plan, to premeditate? >> absolutely.

in particular because apparently the reason he didn't go forward with it because he thought he was going to get caught because he made a noise or something when he went into the house the second time. showing she understood what the effects could be if he's found. it's not that he's walking around blindly and just sort of adding people to his religious group. he knows he has to be really careful because he could get arrested. he could get put in prison and he could get in trouble. these are all relevant factors when you're talking about an insanity defense as to whether he understood right from wrong. >> i mentioned to you yesterday when they had a competency hearing for mitchell i was there and i sat and listened to elizmoueli elizabeth smart's testimony. she is certainly one of the most impressive witnesses i ever saw and when i read the accounts of her now, she is calm, she is very specific and, incredibly, sympathetic, obviously. if you're the defense, do you

cross examine her? >> the defense is going to want to cross examine her, but i think in the end it would be a mistake. meaning, we were talking about this before. one of the things they would cross examine her about. they would cross examine her about things that he was out of it, the mental state, et cetera. the problem is elizabeth smart knows what this case is about. she knows what the insanity defense is. >> she did well at the competency hearing. >> so, i think it will be very tough for defense attorneys to elicit the kind of information that would be helpful to them. i think they have to view this as a completed witness, which is, she's testified about what happened, we concede what happened happened and our witnesses are going to talk about our client's mental state, which maybe she wouldn't know about, as well. will effectively be the defense's argument. i think, it's kind of a close call because they may want to cross examine her on a couple basic questions.

they certainly won't cross examine her on what happened to her. no question about that. the only issue, will they ever -- if they cross examine her about whether she could have escaped, i think that would be a huge mistake. huge mistake. the only thing they could even cross examining her about would be about his mental state and i don't think they would be smart to do it. >> dan, good to see you again. >> thank you, chris. republican versus republican in one corner. senator mitch mcconnell and in the other corner tea party favorite senator jim demint. the battle over billions of dollars. we have the show down that's brewing on capitol hill. host: could switching to geico really save you fifteen percent

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waging his battle. at stake, what the senate gop becomes as 2012 approaches. richard lui, all this will come to a boil next tuesday when they come back to session. >> that's right. this is their first bout and it's all about earmarks. we're talking about pork here, chris. the meat of congressional power to try to pay for their own pet projects and also, as i was saying, the first time they're coming to gop power one side. you have senator demint. he is tea party equity that he has built up in the past year by supporting the new groups candidates if not creating them and try to outlaw pork in the 112th congress. now, on the other side, we have the minority leader mitch mcconnell coming and he does not want that law saying it would leave budget decisions up to the white house. at stake between these two, possibly leaderships in 2012. mcconnell in line for that and immediately how well the gop integrates tea party-backed senators and for the new class whether they follow through on

promises to cut spending and do things differently as they were saying on the campaign trail. secret vote is on tuesday. nobody will know who voted for or against the earmark span here. he wants to try to avoid a public failure in this, as well as alienating the tea party supported senators and the other freshman joining the ranks. now, expected outcomes here show either could win out. demint says ten senators support him. on the flip side one of the most conservative senators, he says, this one is not going to fly. that $16 billion doesn't amount to much compared to a $1 trillion budget. so, chris, age-old argument that new age stakes as we look at this first coming together. >> we'll see how the plays out next week. thank you, richard. call it cookie gate. is sarah palin smuggling sweets into schools? forget 2012. after speaking to students, she may position herself as america's first chef. speaking of sarah palin,

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if they triple the cost to go to university in london, it will be about $14,000 a year, significantly less than it is here in the state, but when it's triple what you were planning, it is, obviously, upsetting to a lot of folks over there. we will continue to follow these growing protests. a staggering 18% of americans say there have been times over the past year when they could not afford to put food on the table. that's according to a gallup study done just last month. the centers for disease control reporting that for at least part of this year nearly 59 million americans went without health care. that's up from 7% from two years ago. 3 millionations may be at risk of cholera now that three cases of the disease have been confirmed in the capital. that's the city of port-au-prince. they call the disease outbreak a threat to national security. it has claimed 580 lives. a wildlife group says at least 1,000 wild tigers have been killed for their body parts

over the last decade. tigers are now in danger of extinction. san francisco residents say good-bye to toys in happy meals. the board of supervisors gave final approval. it is the first city in the country to do that. whether she's building her brand, her checkbook or political capital, sarah palin seems to be everywhere these days and next her reality tv show. debuts on sunday. she will be in dallas, texas later today and last night she was the star of a $750 a plate school fund-raiser in suburban philadelphia. >> daniel, that singing, absolutely beautiful. daniel, would you like to see at an inauguration? not necessarily mine. he should, though, at somebody's, right? well this exposure including a new article in "people" magazine

is fueling speculation that she is planning a presidential run in 2012. >> a lot of sacrifices have to be made so it is conseration and then getting a good lay of the landscape, too. i would be in it to win it. i wouldn't do it just to shake it up and just to cause people at a competitive primary to have to debate and articulate what their solutions would be for the country. i would be in it to win it. >> let's bring back our company, michael grimm, chris smith, congressman elect, you ran with the support of the tea party. sarah palin is the face of the tea party. should she run? >> if she wants to, absolutely. i don't think she is going to run, though. i think flirting with the idea and keeping it out there and keeping it alive is good for her profile and keeps her much more relevant in the scene. she is living as you see with the different shows and books and her tours throughout the country giving speeches. >> chris, is she just teasing

her support snrz. >> sure. she's going to keep it up as long as possible. >> how long can she keep it up? >> we, apparently, have no bottom to talking about her and putting her on magazine covers and putting her on the air. it's fascinating. she goes and talks and should cookies be allowed in schools. >> can i play that? >> sure. >> she took aim at a pennsylvania debate because she was in philly about whether to ban sweets in schools. here's what she said about it. >> so, i had to bring these private school students to show them how privileged they are. i brought dozens and dozens of cookies to these students. i had to shake it up for you guys, especially the press, okay. who should be making the decisions what you eat and school choice and everything else? should it be government or the parents? it should be the parents. >> plays to her base, doesn't it, chris? >> sure. i don't think school kids have any lack of access to doritos. we have a terrible obesity,

childhood obesity and diabetes problem in this country. you know, the government is already, if you want to talk about the government being involved in the wrong way. great story in "the times" over the weekend on how we have federal programs essentially subsidizing the cheese industry when we have this terrible obesity problem. let's cut that out and she can have the cookies. >> it's delicious, but in large quantities, it's not good for you. >> karl rove, lynn, said that sarah palin wouldn't appear presidential doing the reality show that debuts on sunday. but, you know what, i think about all the conventions i have been to and everyone always has some sort of glossy, you know, video that they do for the assembled folks which is really about their childhood and where they live now and what kind of person they are. campaign ads always look like here's the family, here's how i live. here i am out with the people. is this any different? >> i think it is different. i think a reality show is probably not like one of the

things that you do to build up your resume to be presidential. i have a lot of respect for her because people look to her, they gravitate to her. i believe in her values. >> she's got it. >> when people stay awake all night to stand around the block to buy her book, she's not a woman we should be laughing at. i don't laugh at her, but i don't think she should be thinking about running for president. i think if she runs for president, that's probably barack obama's answer to prayer. >> okay, well, maybe she only knows. maybe she and todd and bristol and, you know, the kids. we'll find out. >> i hope not. >> we keep talking about her, you're right, chris. chris, michael, lynn, thank you so much. we'll go from cookies to coffee in a little bit. so, is that coffee you're drinking making you fat? we'll talk about that. but, first, our tea partiers rallying around bristol palin on "dancing with the stars." last night it was super bowl

quarterback kurt warner who got the boot. check out a relieved bristol. >> the next couple safe is -- bristol and mark. >> well, tv columnist and bloggers are burning up cyberspace calling sarah palin's popularity the reason for her daughter's unlikely rise to the top despite her less than stellar rankings from the judges for her dancing skills. could bristol's dancing success be politically motivated? we'll talk about that ahead in the next hour of "jansing & company." george w. bush says he's having a good time promoting his new book. he is getting plenty of laughs. like this morning on "today" show. >> too bad they call them the bush tax cuts. they would have a better chance if they were the lauer tax cuts. you are trying to get me to talk about this issue.

>> i tried -- >> again, pretty unfair questions. like which one of your children do you love the most. >> pick one. >> you can sit there and say pick one all you want, i am the guy who gets to pick and i'm not picking one. >> there are people around this country who are walking around wearing t-shirts president bush and they have a picture of you on the t-shirt and the words, miss me yet? >> what's interesting about that, there used to be people walking around with t-shirts that said, we don't miss you. >> coming up next hour, who is his favorite adviser cheney, co i ndi. don't you wish you worked at google? employees are getting a $30,000 bonus. it's one for saying thank you for their success and in another part keeping its assets. stiff competition from other silicone valley companies.

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moore of "wall street journal" and personal finance expect carmine wang ulrich. a shocker that top of the school system. joe klein is quitting to take a corporate job and been replaced by a women with no experience or education. she has never been a teacher and sent her two kids to private school in connecticut. michael bloomberg calls her brilliant, innovative and a superstar manager. there are alarming statistics about black boys falling behind in schools. things getting so bad one group has labeled it a natural catastrophe. in fourth grade, just 12% of black male students are doing well in reading compared to 38% of white male students. by eighth grade 12% of black male students are doing well in math and the divide is even greater between them and their white counterparts.

associate professor of political science at princeton university. good morning. >> good morning, chris. >> we are talking about this a lot because we did education nation but these numbers are just completely unbelievable and it seems like the study shows students across the board are doing poorly, but when you look at the overall numbers, 47% of black males graduate from high school compared to 78% of all blacks of all public school students. just 5% of all college students are black men. what's going on? >> well, let's be clear. the numbers are chilling. but i also want to back up just a little bit because i think part of what's happened in the nature of this report when you read the whole thing they're really to talk about policy they give us these horrible numbers but they're not in context of historical trends or how black

girls are doing for the most part. i just want to pause and say, yes, these are horrifying numbers, but we should be just as worried about the fact that all children, that we're not even at 50% in terms of the sort of quality of reading for fourth graders of any race or gender. and to also remember that they're looking in this particular report at urban school districts in large cities. it's not quite true that this is true across the board. this appears to be particularly a very concentrated problem with our city schools. >> i think one of the things that struck a lot of people as we were talking about it this morning was that poor white boys who live well, live in middle class existences don't do as well as white boys who live in poverty. so, the poverty issue doesn't seem to explain it. what do you think does plain explain it? >> this doesn't surprise me at all, actually. they are using the opportunity to get free or reduced lunch as their example or their measure

for poverty. so, what we see is that african-american boys who are not eligible for free lunch are doing more poorly than white boys who are eligible for free lunch. let me just say a couple things. this is not surprising in part because we know there is a big difference between income and wealth. if you look at african-american and white wealth numbers overall, you'll see that even middle income black households have less wealth than poor white households. in other words, poor white households still have a little bit more cushion in their household than even middle class black households. so it's not surprising to me that poverty itself cannot explain it. also not surprising to me in part because we know, for example, from the work of one of my sociology colleagues here at princeton that a white male with a criminal record is more likely to get a call back for a job than a black male without a criminal record. it's a stunning finding and it shows us that later in life what

these white and black boys are likely to expect regardless of how they were form is a vastly different world that discriminate against the black boys simply for being black and male and their likelihood of wanting it work hard and do well in school is reduced in part because they look out in the world where the adults in their lives have very few opportunities. >> that is a huge problem. we'll continue to have this conversation because it's so important. thank you and you'll stick around. we'll talk about more coming up. back to that breaking news. the latest pictures coming to us from the uk where tens of thousands of students have been marching through london to oppose plans to triple university tuition fees. this is part of the government's sweeping austerity measures there.flared briefly the headquarters of the governing conservative party. we're keeping an eye on what's going on there in the uk. she felt lost...

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