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so do a few lifts. campbell's.® it's amazing what soup can do.™ it's like something out of the stephen king novel. a 13-year-old girl found bound and gagged in a man's home one week after she vanished along with her mother, brother, and a friend. a suspect is in custody, but where are the others? on the first day of the lame duck session, president obama is faced with a deeply divided congress and a hobbled democratic party. the question is, what can washington accomplish in the next few weeks? you've always wanted to be a rock climb, sarah. >> was it a rock climber or rock star? sarah palin fishing and scaling glaciers in her new reality show. will it help her pop lairly? in. kids on a plane, a new movement for adults-only airline flights. would you join?
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joining me now, democratic strategist keith boykin, republican strategist pat buchanan, ebony jet magazine contributor, sophia nelson, ezra klein, and investigative crime reporter, michelle sigona. i'm chris jansing. this is "jansing & company." a really puzzling case. three people missing in ohio. police did get a dramatic break in the case yesterday. 13-year-old sarah maynard was found bound and gagged in a basement, the homeowner has been arrested for kidnapping. but police are still searching for sarah's mother, brother, and a family friend. they haven't been seen since last week. nbc's peter alexander joins us live from howard, ohio. peter, fill us in on the latest developments. >> reporter: chris, good day to you. this is a bizarre and frightening kidnapping. 13-year-old sarah maynard lived in this home in howard, ohio with her family when they were last seen last wednesday.
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she was found ten miles from here early sunday morning in a stranger's home, in the basement, found bound and gagged. that stranger, 30-year-old matthew hoffman is behind bars. he faces kidnapping charges. there is new information we're learning about right now, as authorities try to find sarah maynard's mom, 10-year-old brother and a family friend. there is a park not far from the home where she was found called foundation park, and authorities have blocked that area off this morning, chris. they found an officer did patrolling that area items overnight he believes may be connected to those victims in this case, as the search continues their blocking off that area to try to gather potential evidence there. we'll keep you posted on what happens over the course of today. a news conference scheduled for 2:00, that young girl is said to be in good condition, sarah maynard is. she is speaking to authorities. the suspect, the man wanted for her disappearance, isn't saying a thing. >> peter alexander, thank you so
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much. more perspective from the case from michelle sigona in a minute. first, to washington. we knew there could be fireworks at first congressional ethics hearing in eight years and, boy, charlie rangel did not disappoint. the harlem democrat come out swinging at long-delayed hearing on 13 ethics violations against him. he demanded more time to get a lawyer, and now the panel's gone into adjournment. >> 50 years of public service is on the line. i truly believe that i'm not being treated fairly and that history will dictate that, notwithstanding the political calendar, i am entitled to a lawyer during this proceeding. >> nbc's luke russert is live on capitol hill. this is all changing so fast, just this morning there were democrats who were saying they were worried because he was going to defend himself. then he comes into this hearing and says, i want a lawyer. what happened here, luke? >> reporter: it's quite an odd development, chris. late last week, we had heard
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word from sources close to rangel that he was going to represent himself and not have legal counsel present at his ethics committee hearing. why? we weren't given a clear answer. charlie rangel told us why he showed up without a lawyer. he said he can't afford it any longer. he spent up to $1 million, $2 million from the onset of the two-year investigation into the 13 counts against him doing all sorts of things as not paying taxes, usele congressional letter head to solicit funds for a center in harlem what's interesting here, charlie rangel showed up, he went to the microphone, gave an impassioned plea for over 15 minutes and said, i'm going to walk out of this ethics hearing because i do not have a lawyer and i'm going to possibly hurt myself by appearing here without a lawyer. the ethics committee has adjourned for a moment. they're huddling behind closed doors to figure out how to proceed from here. it's unlikely, from spokes i've
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spoken to, they would end the proceeding now considering this has been going on for two years. remember, charlie rangel has said, on countless times, i want the opportunity to clear my name, i want to get this over with. the chance was -- he had the chance to go before a court and clear his name. obviously he wants more time and doesn't have a lawyer. interesting developments. >> let's bring in keith and pat. what do you think's going on here? >> charlie rangel's always good for entertainment. i think this is a great story. but the reality is, charlie rangel has been in congress for 40 years right now. he's done a lot of good. i live in his congressional district. he's done a lot of good for the district and constituents. >> just re-elected overwhelmingly. >> right, i didn't vote for him but he did. it's time to move on. he wants to go out with dignity. this is not wait for him to go out. he wants to preserve his legacy after 40 years of being in office. but this spectacle of him going up and asking for a lawyer, which he's entitled to, at the
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same time he's had a lawyer in the past, he separated ways with his lawyers, it doesn't look good. and i don't think the democrats need this right now. it's not something they want to start the lame duck session with. it's not something you want to start the new congress with, so let's move on. >> pat, do you think it makes him look bad or do you think they've got to work with him because you don't want to seem like you're sort of bullying this guy who, as keith just said, is trying to preserve a long legacy in congress? >> the problem is charlie rangel knew this was coming, knew the charges, they've all been talked about, he had lawyers, let his lawyers go and lets out word he's going to defend himself and says i don't have a lawyer. got to be enormous ex-aspiration on the democrats in there. i agree, chris, they might say we don't want to appear to be railroading this guy and they might give him some kind of extension but i don't how long. how long would it take a lawyer to get up to speed on 13 charges and to defend charlie rangel?
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so this is a real puzzle as to what they're going to do. but i'll bet they're exasperated. this ending is very sad. he was an easy going guy to contend with. they're there are very few people happy about what is happening to charlie rangel. >> we're going to wait and see what happens and of course we've got luke there and he'll keep us on top of it. stay with me. we also have ezra klein and sophia nelson. i want to talk about the lame duck session that's getting under away let's look at things that are critical. a number of deadlines coming up. so this gives you a sense of what's at stake. the bush tax cuts expire, there's a budget bill to keep the government running december 2nd. and then you have unemployment extension, november 30th. that's the decision that has to be made. by the end of the year, they have to make a decision on bush tax cuts and whether they should expire, and that's where i want to start. it's probably the biggest issue out there.
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we saw some movement, some willingness on both sides, maybe to compromise. let's take a listen from what we heard over last 24 hours or so and then talk about it. >> no deal, no compromise. >> well, you're asking me -- i'm telling you what the president's position is, we need to move forward on the middle class tax cuts, we cannot afford a permanent extense of tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. >> if that's all we can get with the president, we'll work with him on that. >> so, ezra, are they going to play let's make a deal? and if so, what's the deal going to be. >> one of the situations where there are things they have to compromise on and things they want to compromise on. everybody agreed we'll have the middle class tax cuts. my hunch that is it's going to stay for a year or two, as well. you're probably going to see a short-term extension of both. but either way, simply no way i believe there is no way at all, these tax cuts expire in a couple of weeks. they are going to make a deal on
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this. nobody wants to be holding the bag on a tax increase now. >> what about the chuck schumer proposal to move the number to over $1 million? >> i think ezra's right in his analysis of this chris. i think that they have to compromise on this and i think the fight's over those making over $250,000. so, if they move the limit up, i guess that could resolve the problem. but i think the republicans will be adamant that these tax cuts stay permanent for small businesses and i think the fight will be over how we define who's wealthy and who's rich, and that's always been the fight. i think we all agree that those making under $200,000, individuals and under $250,000 couples, will keep the tax cuts. >> there's a question for you, pat. what's rich? $250,000 a year or over $1 million? >> well, people will have different views on that but i will say this, you're going to have to go up to schumer's level of $1 million to have any chance of sunsetting the tax cuts for
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the well-to-do. you've got to go up there. the country is behind the -- i mean up to that level. i will say this, i think obama's going to lose this and the democrats will lose for this reason, they have got to, in some way, in this session, sunset the tax cuts for the rich. wherever you put that level because if they don't sunset it, if they just extend that for one year, two years, you've got a republican leaning senate and a republican house will come in, and they will extend those, i think. and i don't think the president of the united states will veto it. >> ezra, who is in a position of power here in. >> i think the democrats are but they won't use it. i disagree with pat. all of the polling has shown the tax cuts above $250,000 are not popular. people think that much money on the deficit, it's their favorite thing. you can always close the deficit by increasing someone else's taxes and that's a small sliver of the american population. you can get $700 billion. but i don't get the feeling the democrats will do it, and it's mainly because conservative
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democrats of the world don't want to have that fight right now. they went through this laexz. they're looking to make a deal. but it's a big fight on left of the party who thinks the obama and reid and pelosi should press their advantage. >> ezra? >> if they go to $1 million they get most of the $700 billion, and you have a far better chance of winning that battle. i don't think you can win it at $250,000. >> i agree with you votes aren't there 250 right now. >> keith, pat, ezra, sophia. great discussion. thanks to all of you. i'm heading to washington today after the show. i'll be anchoring "jansing & company" live from the house side of the capitol tuesday and wednesday. great guests lined up for you. be sure to watch. of course the nation's economy is still struggling but you wouldn't know it by looking at paychecks on wall street. the "wall street journal" reports on average wall street ceos are pulling in more than $7 million, up 3% from last year.
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ed ucation pays if you're a college president. looking at numbers from 2008, leaders of 30 private colleges got more than $1 until total pay and benefits. no college president made that much in 2004. pat buchanan, are all of these college presidents worth that kind of money? >> are all of those college presidents worth it? >> yeah, are they worth that kind of money? >> no. >> in a word, no. here's the argument, obviously. being a college president is about getting the endowment good and fat and if they do -- >> they're fund-raisers. almost 100% of the time they raise enormous amounts of money and i guess so, but it's not my decision. those are private stugss. with states in trouble some of the state universities that have highly paid guys will see it cut a bit. >> pat thank you. while some salaries are climb, there is a stunning new report about americans struggling to put food on the
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police found her bound and gagged in the alleged kidnapper's basement. there's still no word, however, on her mother and brother who along with the family friend, also disappeared last wednesday. michelle sigona is an investigative crime reporter. michelle, we just learned that an officer patrolling overnight found items in a park near where sarah was found, and they think they may be related not just to her but the ongoing search for her family and this friend. have you heard anything else about what they found or what clues they might have? >> well, this could possibly be information that sarah gave investigators because you have to keep in mind that she is really kind of the key, one of the key players, one of the key play to help lead investigators to where her missing family member and friend could possibly be at this time. at this particular point, they're looking at the family vehicles, looking at some evidence that was found inside of the home. they're moving forward in this case, to be able to determine where someone, one person, and if he possibly had help, could
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have possibly have hidden three other people, four people total. >> so, he's not talking apparently. but she is. she is in the hospital. >> she's in the hospital. >> apparently cooperating. >> doing well, absolutely. that is a very good sign in this case. thank goodness. we don't know exactly what she endured since last wednesday and you know being held captive inside of a house, allegedly bound and gagged, and once investigators found her. so whatever she has from that particular point, we're sure she saw something and has some key bits of information that could lead investigators, i'm sure they're pulling surveillance in the area, obviously looking through trash cans, doing whatever they can to fine this family. >> you've been helping us follow another bizarre case involving an alleged kidnapper also who was actually declared dead years ago but is very much alive and now under arrest. fill us in on this. >> he is alive. he is under arrest. a received a call yesterday from one of my sources close to the
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investigation. they received a tip last wednesday, chris. which said that, look, this guy's been coming into my truck stop, gas station, showering here on the weekends, he's eating candy bars excessively and watching tv and has his shirt buttoned down to a v to where tattoos are showing. a lot of key clues in the case were coming out about this guy. and some information investigators weren't giving out, for instance, addiction to candy bars how he wore his clothes. they set up surveillance and watched him and they watched him walk in, over the weekend, and they arrested him yesterday without incident. took him into custody. and from what i'm learning from one of my sources is that he gave up some pretty key pieces of information himself on to where the child's mother could possibly be. so there's an active search going on in arizona right now for sue ellen to be able -- unfortunately i don't think investigators think she's alive and he may have given up other information. i can also confirm they has lawyered up at this time, so he
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may not be giving up any more than what's he's given but it gives them some direction to go in in this particular case. >> thank you for updating us on both of those cases. the justice department has kept this report secret for years. the u.s. created a safe haven for nazis after world war ii. we've got the shocking details. plus, we all know what this is like, done we? you get on a plane, you find your seat, and of course you are right next to the crying baby or the rambunctious toddler or he's kicking the back of your seat and won't stop. the new movement to have kids banned from flying. [ male announcer ] humana and walmart are teaming up to bring you a low-price medicare prescription drug plan called the humana walmart-preferred prescription plan. it's a new plan that covers both brand and generic prescriptions and has the lowest-priced national premium in the country of only $14.80 per month and in-store copays as low as $2. when you could save over $450 a year,
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provi protected them on american soil. "the new york times" got a hold of the report. it includes house some former nazis were knowingly admitted into the u.s. after the war, the extent of which was never fully understood in the past. for example, one nazi rocket scientist honored by nasa. the director of the national security archives. tom, thanks for being with us. i know you're the first to demand the release of this report under the freedom of information act, and there's one particular line that kind of hit home for me. it said america, which prided itself on being a safe haven for the persecuted, became in some small measure a safe haven for persecutors as well. that is your headline out of this? >> pretty shocking. and it is. we've been trying to get this document released through freedom of information and justice has been resisting. a bad news and a good news part of the document. the bad news is that shocking
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reality there was a safe haven for some of the nazis, rocket scientists, top cia asset in always streetia, for example. the good news, though it took 30 years the united states government started chasing these guys taking away citizenship, getting them deported, bringing justice been i actually think this history is a huge positive sign for how we can turn the arc of yuts and justice and go afte guys. >> what is the lesson here? >> one is about the censorship of the asounding to me the justice report would cut out opinions of the top officials as they told them to the historian. this is an amazing story how a small, effective office, office of special investigations went after the bad guys who lied on the immigration forms, were living peacefully here on golf courses in the united states, and went after them and brought them to justice. and, yes there were failures. there were some
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misidentifications, there were some lost cases but the justice department, instead of putting it out, warts and all, as president obama and attorney general holder have said we deserve to know our own history, they tried to censor it. they put it on the front page of the "new york times" yesterday. >> let me ask you about one of the more bizarre incidents that a justice department director was keeping a piece of the scalp of the angel of death in his desk. what was that about? >> well, there was this huge issue, here was the angel of death who just disappeared and never brought to justice, and there was a hunt for him that went on for decades and actually that little piece of scalp turned out to be he essential once dna identification techniques were developed to figure out the guy died in south america, wasn't still out there to be chased. so, there are all kinds of little tidbits of the story, the cia's protecting its own guys, nasa giving the top award to the rocket scientist who used slave labor in nazi germany.
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a dark, dark chapter of our nation's history but a ray of light. we can go after these guys and we're going after today, not just the nazis, but other persecutors and perpetrators of human rights abuses who found some haven here in the united states. there will be justice. and i think that's the lesson, that's the deterrent for bad behavior all over the world. the united states is not go tyke safe haven anymore. >> you are a driving force behind this. tom, congratulations, and thank you so much. >> thank you, chris, very much. we're just getting word on the breaking news we've been following this morning. the house panel said no to charlie rangel he wanted a delay in his trial on alleged ethics abuses, he wanted to time to get a lawyer. we will have luke russert coming to us on the other side of the to us on the other side of the quick break. [ female announcer ] clear some snow. ♪ or spread a little warmth. [ cellphone rings ]
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they break. they go into private session. now they have just come back and said, no, charlie, you've got to do this now. let's go to luke russert. before all of this happened, when he was standing before the committee, he said, look, i'm going to walk out if i don't get a lawyer. so now i guess we'll have to wait to see whether he shows up again, right? >> reporter: right. an amazing bit of political theater. charlie rangel says, look it's not fair to stand trial before the ethics committee because i do not have a lawyer, i do not have counsel. charlie rangel has spent over $2 million over last two years trying to defend himself on these charges. he had run out of money. his legal team did not show up. we weren't expecting them to show up today. lofgren explained, look, you can pay this out of your campaign funds there are different options to take. we can't afford to delay on this because we've given you ample time to be ready and prepared for this day. charlie rangel, himself, chris, has said, i want to clear my
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name. i want to have a trial. well, a lot of his colleagues are saying, here's your opportunity and now charlie rangel is walking. what's interesting, though, the ethics trial is scheduled from 9:00 a.m. until 6:00 p.m. the question everyone wants to know, where is charlie rangel? when does he show up does he come back to this ethics hearing? we do not know that because we do not necessarily know where he is. i'm going to try to find him like every produce somewhere correspondent will, too. charlie rangel most likely will have to get back here soon or lord knows what could happen. my money's on you. the reviews are in fror the premiere of sarah palin's alaska. "the new york times" this said this the series looks look a troflogue, wholesome, visually breath taking and a little dull. it's like the sound of music without the nazi or the music. this is sarah at her most winning. and the boston her arld,
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flippin' embarrassing? you betcha! we don't have ratings yet, i don't think, right? >> no, we don't have ratings yet but reviews are tough. the producers of sarah palin's alaska call it a family adventure show but it was also an advertisement for alaska, that showcased sarah palin as this rugged outdoors woman. all positive images, chris, that will no doubt shape her image if she runs for president. >> reporter: in the first episode of "sarah palin's alaska" the former vice presidential nominee is the ultimate frontiers woman watching bears wrestle. >> amazing to watch. this mama grizzly, protecting her cub. >> reporter: fishing for salmon. >> who's going to catch the first fish. ? >> reporter: scaling dangerous glaciers. >> you've always wanted to be a rock climber, sarah. >> was it a rock climber or rock star? >> reporter: she's a tv star,
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too. with the studio inside her home. >> this is much better than the shot against that wall. >> reporter: her husband, playing cameraman and confidante. >> business business rolling the dice. >> reporter: living next door is joe mcginnis the investigative journalist. >> todd and his buddies built a 14-foot fence others can look at and say this is what we need to do to secure our board. >> none of his flippin' business. >> reporter: executives call the picturesque eight-part series a docutravelogue. >> this is giving campaign advertising for someone who perhaps will have a presidential bid coming up. >> reporter: chris, on tlc's website there's critics of sarah palin who call this propaganda. we know palin is heading out on a 16-stop tour in 14 states to promote her new book. the tour clues two stops in iowa and one carolina. the key to the republican
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nomination. >> somehow i go there every four years only. thank you so much. keith boykin, pat buchanan, sow nia nelson. s can bring home the bacon, friday fry if up in a pan, she's everyone's renaissance woman. >> that, she is. i'm not convinced sarah palin is running for the president of the united states. i don't see it happening. i think this woman is incredible in this regard, however, she has had a book that brought in millions of dollars. she's got her on tv show. she's a fox contributor. she is a rock star in her own right to take her own words and she's making a lot of money for her family and nobody in the palin family's going to have to work for generations if she keeps this up. i'm not sure it's all about politics. i think this woman's a businesswoman and exploiting the season of her life that's bountiful. >> unfavorable rating which has gone past 50%.
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52%. pat, i'm going to guess, maybe you're old school, is this the way you run for president these days? >> i'll tell you, it's certainly the way she ought, if she is running for president. >> you think it's a good idea if she's running for president to do this? >> excellent. this gives her an extra dimension, moves her out of the realm of us versus them politics. she's got a very sharp edge. see her on a podium going after people. this is a format, this is an environment that everybody can relate to. she's out there with her family in the snow and going out fishing. and many people that disagree with sarah palin will say, gee, she's got a wonderful family, isn't alaska a wonderful place? it provides an added dimension. remember, chris, you know, jack kennedy, when he was in hyannis port had the golf cart and ten tiny kids and driving them around. it was a phenomenal picture. >> let me show you a little clip that speaks to what you said, pat, because i think when a lot of mothers see this, they'll relate to it.
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check this out. >> willow, come here. see this gate? it's not just for trig. it's for no boys go upstairs. she'll be downstairs in a minute. >> mom. you can text her up there. >> see, that is -- that is her telling her 16-year-old daughter, if you think the boyfriend's going upstairs with you, you've got another thing coming. keith, does this make her more relatable? does she connect with americans this way? >> i couldn't tell if you can see on the scene but after that the boyfriend goes upstairs? is that showing up there? the funny thing is, this is real life. but it does make her more relatable. it doesn't make her more of a presidential candidate. i think the idea that she runs for president is plausible but the idea that she wins the republican nomination and that she wins the presidency, with that reputation out there, it doesn't fly. this is a rock star, as sophia
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said, but not a presidential candidate. >> maybe you'll all come back and talk about next week after we see episode two. ma more is there to say? tomorrow, i will be live on our nation's capitol, valerie plame and joe wilson, two central figures in the cia leak investigation during the bush administration. thanksgiving a week away, and there's a new study that paints a bleak picture for millions of hungry americans. richard lui, you've good the latest info that came out in the last hour. where does that stand? >> right here it came out at 9:02 when we got it. it's shocking if you just take some time to leaf through the 60 pages of it. today in the united states it says here there are over 17 million children in households that are not getting enough good food to eat. that's a tick up from last year. and if you think about it, think of just five children that you know or that you have, one of them could be these kids i've
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just described. over one in five children are at risk of living in a house called food insecure. it says the usda, in the report i was mentioning. this can man prolonged involuntary lack of food which can lead to getting sick, feeling week, or pain. if we're talking kids with single mothers, look that the here on your screen, the problem doubles for children with single mothers to a startling 2 in 5 with food insecurity. overall, 1 in 7 are at risk, as we lead up to the holiday season. over here on left hand side here, where it is happening the most. this area at the bottom, blue states in the south, is where it's above average. and right over here, next to me on this other screen, to your right, you can see the future doesn't look good. this is where it was in the past three years. and then 2007 is when it has that huge spike, food insecurity may mean here that it's very, very difficult for folks to get good food, it may mean hunger but it's not necessarily a direct correlation there at the
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moment, according to the usda. it does measure hunger for those undernourished. the united states does not measure on that when it comes to hunger by the definition. shows less than 1 billion suffering from that. let's come back to home and the solutions in the united states. help low-income areas that don't have access to those big box stores like walmart, which have low priced foodstuff. food deserts is the way it's described. help hyper local solutions affordable community markets, food banks and gardens that help people feed themselves. chris, ideas right there even sell back high end restaurants, at farmer's markets. some solutions but a startling report. >> something's got to give, for sure. thank you so much. new reports confirm what scientists have been theorizing, melting glaciers are a scary, new reality. a three-foot rise in sea level
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would flood 15% of urbanized miami. we'll have more on this during our special green week coverage here on msnbc. grove thrown. now the lights go out. the lights went out here in new meadowland stadium. >> yeah. what's go on at the new stadium? that was the first of two power failures played out on live tv at the $1.6 billion stadium. the giants/cowboys game resumed after officials deemed there was enough light to play. moments late air complete blackout for ten seconds including tv coverage. my producer was there. she said you could not see the person sitting noex you, only cell phones and camera flashes until emergency lights kicked in. officials blame it all on a blown transformer.
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a new study finds most preschoolers are exceeding the recommendations for daily tv time. the american academy of pediatrics suggests, parents limit screen time to two hours a day. but the study found 66% of them watched on average four hours of screen time each weekday, mostly at home. kids in home-based child care watched the most tv an average of 5. 6 hours a day. the world's largest glaciers could be melting at a rapidly increasing speed threatening to displace hundreds of millions of people globally. scientists have measured temperatures of 40 degrees below glaciers in greenland. studies estimate the rate of
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melting could cause three to six-foot rises in sea level by the end of the century. the professor emeritus of geologist at duke university. >> pleased to zbleesh ed td to >> what does it mean for those of us living in new york and brooklyn or queens or along the coasts in north carolina or miami or in places like london or singapore? what would this mean? >> as far as north america's concerned, we think a three-foot sea level rise will be the end of barrier island development unless you build seawalls all the way around an island. when a three-foot sea level rise, major cities such as new york, boston, and especially miami, will be threatened and it's very likely they'll take the money for sea level rise response rather than the islands. we can give up on the barrier islands, i think, in 60 to 0 years.
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>> australian expert, who is an expert on sea level, said this, that i thought was a very shocking quote, we can't afford to protect everything. we will have to abandon some areas. do you agree with that? >> oh, i agree totally with that. we have 3,000 miles of -- 3,000 miles plus of barrier island shoreline in the u.s., and we're going to have to abandon most of that, including hundreds of miles of high-rise lined islands in florida. we can't afford to protect them when the cities are threatened. >> so if we know it's coming, what can we do to stop it? >> the first thing we can do is stop -- we can't stop the sea level rise. though we can -- we might slow it down if we do something about our sea level production. i prohibit all future high-rise development on barrier islands or near the coast, not counting the city. the cities are something else. the point is high-rises make it
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imto be respond to the sea level rise and they're the biggest problem we have on the barrier island. >> people who want to hear more about this, there's a big article from yesterday's "new york times". professor pilkey, thank you very much. appreciate you being with us. the "today" show is learning how to become internet sensations from someone who has already done it. ♪ dance, dance, dance maybe a kick drum which is -- ♪ i have synth parts. ♪ >> matt, meredith, ann and al got training from mike tompkins. reproduced popular songs with no instruments, just his voice, and videos are viral. the video he made with the "today" show stars ♪ give me space for both my hands hands
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oh, great, i always end up sitting next to a damn baby. >> what? what did you just say? >> stewy, stop fussing. >> not now. big man, turn around, if you have something to say, say it to my face. my ears are popping and there's no way to console me. i'm hungry and possibly teething. maybe i'm wet. who knows? i'm a baby. waa. waa. >> for get the long lines and the invasive patdowns because you saw the clip from the "family guy," on the plane a simmering debate. some passengers are organizing
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and calling for child-free flights. now according to one online survey, 20% of passengers think this is a good idea. but if kids are on board, 59% would like to see them be seated in special sections for families. remember if you're old enough, used to be the smoking section of a plane? let's bring in keith, pat, sophia. sophia, should we kick the kids off the planes? >> i love kids but i was on a flight a couple months ago and the baby projectile vomited over everybody. i was not a happy camper. all i can say, i'm all for the family sections and it was one of the small planes, too. it was bad. just having said that i think that we ought to consider maybe putting folks in different sections, love kids to death, but don't want them throwing up all over me. >> you want to know how sensitive this is they asked for a comment from delta, southwest, air tran, us airways and qantas, they didn't want to talk about it. pat what do you think?
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you can't kick kids off planes, can you? >> you can't kick them off. you have quiet cars on the trains. i think they ought t put them in a separate section where the kids are. there ought to be flights that are free of kids if people want to pay enough and airlines want to put them on. but i don't think you can keep the kids off the planes. >> you know there are, keith a number of business people who have been interviewed for articles about this who have said, i'll pay extra. i just i'm working or i'm sleep organize whatever i'm doing, i fly a lot. i honestly have had a few cases where a kid was really, really annoying and i felt bad for him. >> i'm a frequent business traveler. i feel sympathetic for people who don't want to be on a plane like this. i don't think you want kid-free flights, but maybe kid-free section. >> on a small plane, maybe you're not the object of his projectile, but just you're still going to hear him if he's
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screaming? >> that would be the end of my flying days. >> pat's like i'm not leaving washington. if i can't take a train, i'm not going. you have all of our sympathies. thank you all. nancy pelosi's first order of business is to rally her base. hold on her to leadership post. can she be effective if she doesn't have broad based support. a public fight between afghanistan's leader and the u.s. leader on the ground there about the way forward. wait till you hear about this. hi.
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