that was an awesome camera turn. awesome! . president obama doesn't have to worry about just finding common grounds with republicans, he also has to deal with his own supporters. independent bernie sanders of vermont is already out with alternatives to major cuts in discretionary spending suggested by the chairman of the parking light's debt commission. instead of cutting social security, medicare and other entitlements. he says a good place to start is ending the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, stop funding outdated pentagon programs and eliminate subsidies to big oil companies. those are all interesting ideas, and probably have no chance because they were proposed by progressives. the ideas washington really consider ranges from conservative to really conservative. but the president may be on other issues as well. i'm not in a generous mood

today. to help us talk about all that, we bring in sam cedar formally of air america and a political commentator. and steve karnaky with the salon.com. sam, i know i'm harsh. but am i right, or does bernie sanders' suggestions have any chance at the white house? >> my guess is no. i don't think you're being that harsh. it's ridiculous we're talking about social security in terms of the deficit because it doesn't contribute to the deficit at all. it's completely self funded. if you genuinely think that's the biggest problem that america faces right now, then you've got to get rid of the tax cuts for the wealthy. >> steve, look. >> sanders is saying things that sound so logical. how about the pentagon? how about balancing it by bringing in more revenue.

why do these have no traction in washington? if you look at polling data, you can follow the arguments made from polling people on conclusions. then you ask people, okay, well you're okay with more tax increase for the rich. do you think we should cut defense spending? do you think social security should stay intact? who do you want to vote for? then they're going to say the republicans. we talk about tax cuts for the rich. i think of when president clinton was in office. when president clinton was in office he did raise taxes only on the top 1.2%. he did it for a very specific purpose to bring us to a balanced budget, what he did. all the prosperity of the 1990s can be traced back to the decision. even people said the idea of like the idea of taxing the rich. didn't matter. the 1994 midterm elections happened. when the economy is down and people are in a bad mood, they're not going to believe

anything the president said. they're going to believe he raised that taxes even if he didn't. even if they fight, i'm not sure they can win. >> but the close son is that it doesn't matter. you can exercise good policy, and it won't necessarily impact your electoral outcomes. so the bottom line is this needs to be done. you need to close the deficit. you don't go out there and you say that we're going to raise taxes, you simply let the bush tax cuts expire, and then you say, we have just now managed to have the deficit. >> you could certainly go out at that way. steve, doesn't that go to another point? obama may have a better chance if he made his point. instead of saying as soon as the elections are over, okay, okay, i give up. uncle, uncle. i'll cut the taxes on the rich. in fact n the 60 minutes interview he said cutting spending and limited government is as american as apple pie. isn't he giving them the queen. if it were a chess match? >> right. again, he's not going to get credit for this. the interesting thing is let's say he just embraced every proposal that was in this

commission bowls simple son commission that came out the other day. let's say he embraced everything in there and got it through congress now. the headlines are obama tackles the deficit. let's say he was getting those headlines, he still wouldn't get credit from the american people. the point made is an accurate one. at a certain point in your white house, you have to decide what is really important and what isn't. what is worth pressing ahead on, and what isn't. i would think this one issue with the tax cuts if you look at the long-temple implications, this is something worth fighting for. >> you're going to get screwed if public opinion either way. >> you may not. congressman grayson came on one of the shows i did here. he said, look, we need a national message. we have to fight together. if we don't, of course we lose. we have no chance. i think he makes a good point. is it a more fundamental issue. is it not just messaging. on a related issue here, it looks like the president is going to give about 20 f-35s.

$3 million of weaponry to israel for a three-month expansion of the process where nthey don't expand the settlements. it seems like such a weak deal. if it was $3 billion and we get a piece of the middle east. i'll sign that deal any day. but for a three-month extension. is he perceiving weakness too much? whether foreign policy or here internally? >> that's the question. is ate question of him compromising too much, or is this agenda and he is playing the 14-dimension that will chest, we don't just don't realize that's his agenda. who knows. from a progressive point of view, at the end of the day, it's starting to not matter. at one point progressives are going to pivot from trying to convince obama to do what obama feels is right, despite himself, to obama isn't necessarily on our side, regardless of what we may have thought.

and we have to actually start to make a design plan to force him to do it. >> i think a lot of progressives are coming to this point. i'm going to talk about jon stewart's point. maybe we're breaking this up the wrong way. we have dan coats who used to be a lobbyist. used to be a senator, then a lobbyist, now a senator and one day will probably be a lobbyist again. right? then on the other hand you have evan bayh and nelson. chris dodd will become a consultant, right? isn't the real issue here the lobbyists versus the rest of us? so when we ask for obama to do the right thing, he's a politician in the broken system. we're dreaming a dream that isn't going to happen. >> i thought anybody who really had the expectation, every president you know come to office in washington. and every governor comes to the state house claiming to change

the way we do business. but really is a perm nan government. it's people who worked in the systems for years and are going to work in the systems for years. if one person proposes he or she is the agent of change. all those people don't have the incentive to go along. >> i have to ask you one last question. obama came in promising change. health care reform a little bit. he missed a point that we need to change the system. not issue by issue. am i overreading that? >> the system is what it is. the problems i have with obama have less to do with his policy achievements. relatively speaking, we had a disaster for eight years. coming back from that is going to be difficult. what he's not doing is laying the predicate for two, five, ten

years, 12 years, 20 years down the road like reagan did for why liberalism, why government that works for the people as a posed to being an obstacle to the people. he is not selling that id yolgs. and in some respects, that's the only thing he did really promise was a certain amount omt of rhetoric and bringing new people into the system and giving them a reason. that's what hope is, right? and he's not providing that. he said famously the difference between 94 and now is you got me. turns out, no. that's not. >> we have to leave it there. but i like that idea. so then 15 to 20 years for now a republican president can say, liberalism. it's as american as apple pie. >> it would be nice. >> that would be an amazing moment. sam sedar and steve, you guys are great. thank you. now to the freshmen coming into washington. and a sign that elections do mean something. a short time ago senate majority

leader mitch mcconnell announced he will support the ban on earmarks. got to give him credit. i'm surprised by that news. the old congress still has to tackle some really important issues in the lame duck session. first, they have until the end of the month to vote on extending jobless benefits for over 2 million unemployed americaned. then it's onto the budget and whether or not to keep the federal government open for business. that deadline is september 2nd. but the biggest issue of all is if they will extend the bush tax cuts and to whom. congress has until new year's eve to figure that one out. for the moment being, the democrats are still in charge, but will they act like it? john harwood joins me live from washington. john, i want to ask you about the white house reaction. it looks like they've already said they're going to do a compromise of at least one or two years in extending the tax cut for the rich. was that the only option on the table at the white house? do your sources say if they considered other options? did they consider fighting at all? >> well, i think their approach

was to try to fight during the campaign season. it didn't go well. they weren't able to unite democrats behind a strategy and really put the republicans on the defensive. they tried to make the argument that we can get rid of the ones in the names of deficit reduction for the top earners. and they couldn't get that moved in the senate. the house probably could have passed it had the senate been able to move it. that's not the way it worked out. post election the president is trying to make sure above all that something gets done by the end o the year. as you just mentioned. that new year's eve deadline is the dividing line between when taxes would go up on everyone if congress doesn't act. so they are headed for a temporary extension. the white house dpdsed that's the best result they can get at this point. number one comes in to tax the wealthy more. can they really read the election as a mandate to make

sure the rich don't get taxed, or could it be something else? >> well, we could argue about what the mandate and the voters are. one thing that the white house can do and democratic leaders can do is count votes within the senate senate. they need 60 in order to get the official democratic position. they don't have 60 votes. they just had an election where all the democrats who were up in 2012 are skiddish about what their political standing is going to be. so it's a difficult sell. when they had a popular president behind him, that was a different story. now they're playing with a weaker hand. >> defending their own positions may help. that's my position. the republicans, you have to give them credit here. i'm surprised that mitch mcconnell lost the battle basically and has conceded to jim demint. it looks like this is the more principled position.

the tea party seems to have won this one, right? >> absolutely. this is a case of mick mccobbnnl who shares the view that earmarks are a trivial contribution to the budget problem. it's very party with the tea party and democratic reformers. president obama the other day at his press conference said he wanted to work with republicans on that. mitch mcconnell was not going to be the one to stand in the way of something that the te party and barack obama and house republicans all wanted to try to implement. and you have a clear demonstration of quick accountability from republican leaders changing their position to make that happen. >> i love when they stick to principle. score one for demint. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. now from white lies to boldface deception. there are lies all around us. but is that such a bad thing? is lying underrated? that fascinating discussion ahead. and the tax cut debate heats

up on the hill. should government give us all cash instead? i vote yes. but we'll debate that next on msnbc. uh, i'm in a timeout because apparently riding the dog like it's a small horse

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we start talking here at the office about another idea. why not give every american money? i'm talking cold hard cash. benjamins. and they can use it any way they like instead of giving more tax cuts to the rich. wouldn't this work? maybe it might work better? now jane is publisher of the blog fire dog lake.com. it turns out they've come up

with the same exact concept. so we're not alone. tell us about this concept. how would it work? >> great minds think alike, cenk. john walker came up with the calculations. he found there are 315,000 families in the u.s. that make over a million dollars a year. and there are 130 million taxpayers. so if you extend the bush tax cuts for people who make over a million dollars a year, you're going to put them about $100,000 in each one of their pockets. for the exact same price. for the same low, low price you can put $1,000 check into the pocketover every taxpayer. i'm. i'm barack obama, and i have a check for you. make it really clear. this is what the republicans want. they want to extend the bush tax cuts and give $100,000 to millionaires. or you can have $1,000. what is it? what would you rather have?

>> but there's no way that wouldn't work. i mean if he comes in with a check and says here's how i'm going to play it. i'm going to give you this $1,000 or give money to the rich. can the obama white house say that would be a losing political cause? >> well, what do your viewers think? what do you think? would you rather have the tax break for millionaires on the theory maybe they'll put some of it back in the economy? didn't work when joran bush do it. i heard john harwood say we don't have 60 votes in the senate. there are 54 millionaires in the senate. over half of the people in the senate. if they vote to give these tax breaks, $100,000, they're putting money in their own pockets. and it's coming out of your pockets.

>> if you're in the lower 20% of income, the tax breaks that they're talking about here, these tax cuts would give you $45. okay. i can live with it. the middle class in this country get on average $880. that's debatable. but the top 0.1% on average get $339,473. american people, do they really want the top .1% to get over 300,000 a piece? that's what they're saying with a strag face. >> when there's 10% unemployment. it's time for populism. it's time for unbridled populism. and a check for $1,000 is populism. same price. it will have much more stimulus effect. any economist would tell you so.

mark zandy at moody's put out a chart saying it's about 26 cents on the dollar. but giving direct money rebates to people would be about $1.26. so it's better poll policy. it's better politics. and people in this country right now could really use it. so could the businesses that they would go out and spend it on for christmas gifts, for food. it's good politics. i think that your idea is fabulous, cenk. the republicans don't say we want to get rich. they're more savvy. and the so-called sent ris or moderate democrats are on the same page. they say we want to give money to the small businesses. your idea and my idea to give money to the average american, they're not going to create jobs. be the megarich will create jobs. how do you answer that charge?

>> well, as i said, if that's the way -- if that worked, it would have worked when george bush was in office. it didn't. so you're in a situation right now where people can't pay their bills. their mortgages are underwater. they have tons of credit card debt. do they really want to finance as taxpayers these cuts for the wealthy. we finance them. it has to come from somewhere. and that somewhere is ultimately a burden that's going to be bourn by them. do they want to do it to have money in their own pockets or the pockets of the wealthy? if middle class has the money they spend it. if the upper class has it, they save a lot of it so it's not as good. but it does create jobs in china, india and other developing countries. >> point taken. >> in the bush years, for

example, $1.9 trillion went outside of this country to create jobs in other countries. i'm not blaming him. it may be smart to set up a factory in china. it doesn't create jobs here, does it? >> no. and i wouldn't say this is the best use of if money. buzz as long as we're going to do give it away, let's give it to somebody who will use it. rather than someone who will sit on it, put it in a painting, put nit the wall. it doesn't work. we know it. >> those paintings drive me crazy. ironically as you put up the check, isn't this what george w. bush did when he sent out the checks to everybody? >> it is ironic, if you asked me would you rather have him give

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are doing today. the s&p is basically flat on the session. you can see the dow is trading up 34 points. sales at u.s. retailers rose more than expected. retail sales were at the largest gain in seven months. and the u.s. postal service is testing out prestamp greeting cards. the price of the stamp would be included in the price of the card. customers could just sign, address and drop them in the mail. the postal service helps simplify the process will bring business back lost to the ease of e-mail. good luck with that. that's it for business worldwide. back to you. tonight msnbc will present a special town hall event, beyond borderlines. it examines the state f immigration in the united states. the two-hour special will be hosted by lawrence o'donnell and maria theresa kumar live from the university of san diego. maria, great to have you here. >> hi. thank you so much, cenk.

democrats and republicans, they seem really far apart on this issue. is there any way of bringing them together? >> well, this is one of the times when the democrats and the republicans have the opportunity to listen to to the american public where 60% want comprehensive immigration reform. not only do we immediate it to secure the national borders, but we node to make sure all americans have a pathway to talk about wages and making sure everybody has equal pay. we can ensure that we are looking at paying back the conference. it will start not only paying more taxes, but will pay fines. at the same time making sure we're elevating wages for all americans. i wish that were the case, and i love your optimism. >> but it's the only piece. >> but the minute you say the magic words path way to citizenship, aren't the

republicans immediately going to jump offboard and start firing towards the ship? >> well, senator lugar is a republican. he's a cosponsor of the original bill. and he's still supportive. technically speaking, in order for reid to pass anything he needs at least five republicans right now if he does it during the lame duck session. when you start looking at what just happened in, you know, november 2nd, where a lot of latinos are galvanized because of the anti-latino rhetoric, there's very little pieces of legislation right now that can actively ensure that the republicans have a chance at the white house come 2012. republicans need least 44% of the latino vote. if we continue down this divisive path that is not solutions oriented. the american public in general is tired of it. they need to find some way to work it out. >> i hope so. again, i'm a little skeptical. but i like that. one more thing here. to me the real problem, and a lot of people would think the real problem is the employers.

they love the cheap labor. they don't need protections and they can pay them less. wouldn't that solve the problem better if we went after the employers? cenk, i appreciate you brought this up. yes, we have 12 million undocumented individuals in the country. they're coming because someone is recruiting them. they're filling jobs that many americans may not want to or because we have artificially low wages, americans feel like we need much more competitive wages, km is absolutely right. but at the same time. we have 5 million of 10 million that are undocumented children. how the we address that? and one quick way to come together is through the dream act, which provides a pathway to citizenship in order for the young people to serve in the military or go to school. a lot of folks say wed need nurses and doctors scientists. we have a group of young people who want to do that but haven't been able to because they don't have a nine-digit number. >> are people focusing on the

employers? what decides issues is where the money is. the money is in cheap labor. if they don't really want to solve illegal immigration because it gaves them cheap labor, are we in trouble there? might it not pass because of that alone? >> we have e-verify. e-verification makes sure the employers have the equipment and the ability to make sure the person they're hiring is documented. we can seal the borders tomorrow, but we still have 12 million people living in the shad des. this is one of the few pieces of legislation where you have big business and the unions. you rarely see these two different giants coming together and saying we need to solve this problem. >> all right. more hope. i like it. keep hope alive. maria theresa kumar with vote

latino. if you would like to par participate, send in your questions at nbcuni.com or connect on facebook or twitter. tune in for town hall tonight at 10:00 eastern here on msnbc. you would be crazy to miss it. georgia mega church pastor stunned hi congregation by announcing he's gay. we've seen this movie before. i'm not sure i'm stunned. the twice-married minister and father of four kept his secret for nearly 39 years. some are charging him with hypocrisy and lying about his secret life for all those years. in the midterm elections richard blumenthal and mark kirk each admitted making misstatements about their military service to sway more votes. a new study revealed more executives are lying on their resumés trying to land tough

jobs in the economy. can we believe anything that anybody is say sng is that so terrible? or is lying and hypocrisy a normal part of life? let's have an interesting conversation about it. ben, is hypocrisy such a bad thing? >> cenk, hypocrisy is overrated. our use of hypocrisy is a tool for criticizing people is overrated. sew me someone who is not a hypocrite, and that's someone i don't want to have dinner with. >> because they're not fun? they're boring? >> yeah. not so much boring, they're going to be incredibly self righteous. we're all a bit hypocrite call. that's what makes us interesting. the there are degrees of hypocrisy. and the most glaring degree is when you're hypocrite call about something really hurtle, like those members of congress who are making it their platform to

criticize and come out against gay rights when they turn out to be gay. we experience irrelevant hypocrisy and waste our time worrying about it. >> when a girlfriend or a wife or a husband or a boyfriend says it wasn't that you cheated on me, it's that you lied about it. do you believe them, or is it because they cheated? >> everybody wants to direct their anger at something else, i think, instead of facing the actual thing that we're angry about. there's a great episode of "sex and the city" where burger breaks up with carrie with a post-it know. she's mad because he broke up with her, not the post-it note. tiger woods, you hear criticism of tiger woods that part of his image. part of being a multi-million dollar athlete was cultivating this image that he was a happily

married man. he had a wife and kids. tiger woods is not hypocrite call. tiger woods is a jerk, period. that's should be where the discussion ends. >> this anti-lying crowd. the do gooders, what do they want from us? am i supposed to admit it right away? last night i gambled. i lost. am i supposed to say that to my wife, or do they not realize little white lies make the world go around? >> yeah, sometimes lies are understandable -- by the way. thank you for bringing me onto take on the anti-lying crowd suggesting that i'm part of the lying crowd. >> it's all in the framing. >> right. there are things that people lie about. eliot spitzer wasn't a hypocrite. it wasn't weird that he didn't tell his wife. his main platform wasn't fighting prostitution. the fact is he engaged in behavior which certainly you don't want from a chief executive. it was risky, not hypocrite call

and of course he lied about it. >> right. so finally let's talk about the political consequences of this, right? we have on the one hand bill clinton who republicans say i cannot believe he lied about having an affair. to me that's the most believable thing i've heard in my bir life. on the other hand you have republicans who campaign on family values and then get caught with prostitutes. and he's admitted it. so is one lying okay and the other not okay? or both okay? >> we equivocate too in things. one lie is worse when you campaign on family values and against any aberrant social behavior that people in general criticize and then engage in it. it's worse than if you don't make that a key part of your political life. bill clinton didn't make that a key part of his political life. still terribly irresponsible behavior. but they're not the same. if you go into a 7-11 and steal

a newspaper and a candy bar it's a crime. if you steal all the money from the register and shoot the clerk, it's also a crime. but they're not the same crime. >> right. so for example, let's say a democrat runs on being kind to puppies, and then we have video of him kicking a puppy, that would be a little worse than if, you know, they weren't running on it, right? so is the original statement what leads to the problem in the first place rather than the follow-up lie? >> i think what leads to the problem is our determination at a society to catch people in being hypocrite call. i just don't think it's that big of deal. rush limbaugh is a dangerous guy. he talked about the war on drugs and then had a drug problem. that's a personal foible. that wasn't hypocrisy. rush limbaugh's problem's life

is at worst a bigot and at best divisive and ignorant and makes the country just a little bit worse for the rest of us. >> at least you're clear about it. but you're letting him off the hook on the drug thing. ben, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. now what did jon stewart get right and what did he get wrong about the media? i'm going to explain. plus, can you guess what this is? prow probably own one. this music is a hint. i'm curious myself. the answer is up next. [ male announcer ] humana and walmart are teaming up to bring you a low-price medicare prescription drug plan called the humana walmart-preferred prescription plan. it's a new plan that covers both brand and generic prescriptions and has the lowest-priced national premium in the country of only $14.80 per month and in-store copays as low as $2.

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but i totally want to at times. like when your cell phone drops a call and you look at it and you're like, drop one more call, i dare you, drop it. you want to smash it. luckily i haven't yet. it would cost me a lot of money. someone has, and he's done it for art. at least he claims. like campbell soup cans. now apple productses a muse. the artist, a former apple employee smashes devices like ipod, turning them into unique works of art. joining me is the man behind the art. first, where did you come up with the idea of smashing these things and making art out of them? >> well, it wasn't so much an idea, it just happened because i smashed an ipod touch. so the idea came to me in a rush.

>> why did you smash it? >> i had give tennessee kids an ipod touch so they would be happy and love me. i came home and they were fighting over it, even though each had one. i just grabbed it and smashed it right in front on them. it's just a thing. and it just got really big. especially here in silicone valley. there's so much of it and so little time to absorb stuff. i like the fact that it put a break into time. a moment. we actually took that thing apart together. and i took pictures of it. and my wife goes you should do something with it. >> there's some chance that

you're going to be a folk hero. this sounds like the jet blue guy getting off the plane. are you making money off this? is this an exhibit in san francisco? >> well, you know, when you used to be able to go to a rock concert and pay them $20 and it was just you and the band. pepsi came in, and this is going to be good. faps forward, and it's like $300 to see the rolling stones. i don't know what happened to that. but i think you can't do a concert without having a sponsor. it was really important for me to pay for it myself. it was important that it's a new thing. i didn't want to just smash it last year's phone but really kind of cross the threshold to question my own dependence on it and the whole the faith in it, this whole devotion to it and

really cross that line and give other people a canvas. one looks like he has a bullet hole in it. did you shoot one of these things? >> yeah, we used a 9 millimeter on that. >> you're not playing, man. michael came to really take care of business here. okay. i hope thoeb got hurt. >> we were very careful. it's a collaboration with an friend of mine, a photographer who shot his computer 15 years ago. and i've been around computers all my life. i didn't understand it at a time. it seems bizarre why anybody would do it. it's kind of hard for some people to be forced to do what they're doing and have a machine involve that had you have to master or you won't be able to do what you do. there's also a lot of creative people who struggle with the

computers or the iphone or whatever. you kind of can't avoid it. it's a fashion thing even at this point. clothes, it's fine to be fashion. that's fine. clothes don't get in between you and your kids, you know. >> but michael -- you're literally raging against the machine. which i find amusing. last question. apple, you were a former employee. have they called you on your iphone that doesn't exist anymore and said, what are you doing? >> no, when my iphone drops a call, i call back and say, i'm sorry i just smashed my iphone. >> so apple has not contacted you? has not reached out to you? no, no. i was a little bit worried about it. i really needed to get it out of my system. it was good therapy. i was worried that it might be

misinterpreted. especially if you don't see the print. the whole three dimensionality of it. >> michael, we got to go, it's a fascinating article. thank you for joining us. >> bye-bye. >> we appreciate it. >> was jon stewart right in his criticism of this country? somet. but if you're hurt and miss work does it pay cash like aflac does? nah. or let you spend it in any way you want like for gas and groceries? nah. or help with everyday bills like aflac does? nah nah nah. [ male announcer ] there's aflac and there's everything else. visit aflac.com for an agent or quote. aflac! having the right real estate agent on your side is more important than ever. at remax.com, you can find the experts you need, whether you're trying to sell of hoping to buy. nobody sells more real estate than re/max. visit remax.com today.

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jon stewart recently criticized cable news for overemphasizing the conflict between the left and the right and not concentrating on the real issue of corruption of the system. i disagree with him slightly on the left/right issue. the other side's not ever going to stop and i think you would be a fool to do unilateral disarmament and don't fight back. if you don't fight back against that, you do real harm to the country, if you ask me. but i mainly want to talk about how right jon stewart is. a lot of time democratic loyalists will attack me for not supporting the party enough. they accuse me of not being a

team player. and they're absolutely right. i'm not. why would i care if it's a democrat or a republican robbing me? i'm just trying to avoid the robbery. so if a republican or democratic senator is going to sell us out so they can get more campaign contributions or make more money as lobbyists when they retire, why in the world would i feel any obligation to support them? maybe it's because i wasn't born into a family with said political traditions. in some households in america you're either born a steelers fan or a cowboy's fan, as a democrat or a republican. it's part of your family's identity, and that's fine, but i didn't grow up that way. and i have no reason to remain allegiance to any political team, so i guess i'm not a team player and i don't want to be. in fact, the real problem is that we're getting played by both sides. they're playing good cop/bad cop with us. the republicans come in and rough us up and then the democrats come in and tell us everything's going to be okay, as long as we do what the

republicans say, another round of tax breaks and special interest breaks to the interests that are paying both sides. look, it's a shell game. and the only people winning are the people who set up the game in the first place through their campaign contributions to both sides. the big untold story is that politicians are not on your side. for the most part, they are not honest players. they are bought people, they are bought by the people who pay their bills -- the lobbyists. they are not our representatives, they're their representatives. that's the systemic corruption that i believe jon stewart is referring to, that i talk about all the time, that the man who's going to do the next show here, dylan ratigan, talks about. it doesn't even mean that the people in the system are bad people. it's that the system is set up to serve the interests of the people paying everybody. and that's the large corporations, the rich, the powerful, and their lobbyists. that's what we all need to focus on. that's what ultimately conservatives, liberals, and all

americans can rally to fight against. that's what we need to change. and i'm glad that there is now finally a little bit more attention being paid to it. and let's see if we can all build on that together. look, that's our show for this monday. i'm cenk uygur. i'll be here all monday at 3:00 p.m. don't want to miss it, we've got fun shows here. and dylan ratigan is up next and east also awesome and also fun. hi. you know, if we had let fedex office print our presentation, they could have shipped it too. saved ourselves the hassle. i'm not too sure about this. look at this.

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good afternoon to you. it's a monday. my name is dylan. it's the afternoon. here we are, today, a little frisky business for everybody. freakouts and frustration with the federal government's decision to step up those invasive pat downs and full-body scans at airport security. worst part is, when it comes to stopping bombs on planes, doesn't work that well. we'll tell you why. also, new blood or fresh meat? 39 incoming lawmakers have never held office before, not sheriff, not d.a., not