sarah palin on the attack against the obama while joe biden reacts to her claim she could beat the president in 2012. is this a preview of the upcoming campaign? republicans holding firm on tax cuts for the rich even as they shoot down an extension of unemployment benefits for the struggling middle class. it's got wealthy democrats calling for obama to toughen up, even as james carville tells the president to, essentially, man up. is this hitting below the belt or part of the bigger strategy? and why does pennsylvania governor ed rendell need driving lessons? joining the discussion today ed rendell, galina espinoza, karen henready, jennifer palmanari and joe klein.

good friday morning, i'm chris jansing. this is "jansing & company." developing right now president obama in europe this morning. he is facing tough questions from allies over the exit strategy in afghanistan. in just a few moments he'll have a statement along with prime ministers of portugal. could be a rough couple of days there because a lot of european leaders who are also unhappy with the president's push for stimulus spending when they're undergoing extreme austerity measures. we're keeping our eye on those microphones for you. meantime, an eternal battle set on the democratic party. first of all, the democrats and the president can't agree about what to do about tax cuts. the house majority leader steny hoyer released a statement saying the house will vote on an extension of middle class tax cuts before they expire, but, exactly what they're going to do isn't clear. at the same time, democrats couldn't get the votes they needed to extend unemployment benefits. and while congress is battling

all of that out, more than 100 wealthy democrats came to d.c. with two big agenda items according to the "l.a. times." get barack obama to be more aggressive and set up an outside fund-raising group like the one karl rove so successfully used in this past election. let's bring in our company. it's good to see you, ladies, thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> you know, james carville never wanted to shy away from a colorful comment, shall we say. here he is at a christian science monitor breakfast. okay, if hillary gave him one of her, fill in the blanks, they'd both have two. excuse me for using this phrase, there is an increasing feeling among democrats that the president needs to kind of man up against the republicans. >> you know, president obama is in a difficult spot because he campaigned as the conciliatory, the mediator. he spoke of his efforts even

when he was at harvard law review about bringing both sides together and that's what the american people really responded to. unfortunately, i think it hurt him and made him look week and ineffective and there's a sense, hey, we just need strong leadership. president bush was never concerned about quhaut the democrats thought about what he was doing. president obama is maybe caring too much about both sides and doing what makes everyone happy instead of doing what's right. >> karen, do you think it's time for the president not to stretch his hand out to the other side here? >> i can't believe that james carville said that at the christian science monitor breakfast. but that's james. >> but this is always a time when you've had the difficult mid-term election that democrats get very frustrated and they all sort of act out, but i think you saw the president lay down the law on the stark treaty and willing to take on a big and important fight there. and the democrats may not have

agreed on the strategy exactly from moving forward on the tax cuts, but they realize it is a good debate to have. i think because you see the on the republican side, they pushed off the meeting they have with the president because they don't know what their strategy is. the democrats have agreed they want to have an up and down vote on extending the middle class tax cut and then we can decide if they want to try to do something different instead of spending tax cuts for the richest top two percent do something to create jobs. a proposal that would give taxes, this is tax credits so that they can actually create jobs rather than just give the money to rich people and i think that's a good debate to have and that's what you'll see when the president comes back from europe and what you'll see when congress comes back after thanksgiving. >> let me read to you what eugene robinson quote. george w. bush to the bitter end of his presidency was the decider. he wasn't the negotiator and

certainly wasn't the explainer. so, a lot of people are asking who is president bush right now, karen. his argument is that the president, frankly, needs to stop lisening to the republicans. >> well, look, president obama or president bush also wasn't very popular, you know, in those final days and, also, you know, when he failed to explain the iraq war and what was happening, he really lost a lot of support among voters and that was not good. and i think that, you know, if there's a teachable moment here, president obama needs to realize that if you're going to take the country in a direction that they're fighting back against and saying that's not where we want to go, you better do a better job at explaining how it benefits them personally. that definitely has not been done. i would argue it's not the messaging that is wrong, i think carl and greenburg are trying to make that message. it's the policies that the people of america and the voters in this last election said, look, this is not where we want

to head. >> let me ask you about strategy, too. galena i'll ask you to weigh in on this. 100 wealthy democrats that come to d.c., they look at what the republicans accomplished in this last election. here's what george soros said. "i admire the president for his attempt to rise above partisan party politics, but after two years of complete noncooperation and vicious distortion, the time for compromise has ended." and those folks are talking about forming the kind of group that karl rove formed, even as a lot of democrats were criticizing that outside money. >> i think that this all speaks to so much frustration. that there have been a lot of accomplishments this administration has made. but there's been no controlling of the message. look at the way republicans have hijacked health care. they dubbed it obama care. that's all you ever hear. where is anyone from on the democratic side speaking out in favor of this and talking about this as a major legislative accomplishment. i don't think it's so much about the policies, i think it's about

message and controlling message. that's where president obama needs to step up. >> stick around, i want to get your reaction to some other things coming up. but, first, let's talk about u.s. forces bringing some serious new weapons into afghanistan. american officials now confirming to "washington post" for the first time they're sending in these battle tanks nine years after the start of the war. despite the escalation, a major focus remains on a plan draw down with the goal of transferring security to afghan forces by the end of 2014. nbc lester holt has made his way to bahgram air base in afghanistan and joins us there live and, lester, what is the latest from there? >> well, chris, some would see as a contradictory message. more heavy armor or heavy armor coming for the first time into this country at the same time that president obama and other nato leaders are talking about a transition period, perhaps a three-year period that at 2014 the afghans would take over

their own security. i just returned from the southwest part of the country in heldman province. the area that the heavy tanks are moving in to. much different topography than where i'm from. more conduciive on what you woud want to do with a tank. we visited the town of marja which was the site of a major offensive earlier this year to wrestle that town away from the taliban. taliban wanted to be there and they made a lot of money and the marines have been largely successful there, but other fights and places like other parts of helman province where it is much more difficult. the gentleman in charge of that area told me that there will be no winter lull in the fighting. the taliban tend to lie low during the winter months but this marine general says they'll keep up the pressure and not give the taliban a rest during

the winter months here. not a lot of folks talking about transitions here although some of that is taking place. we saw afghan soldiers right along side american marines patrolling down in marja. this transition is happening, if even at a unit by unit level. what will happen, of course, in lisbon will be this plan. but in the meantime, those fighting the war on this end will continue to do the job they're tasked to do. chris? >> lester holt, thank you so much. lester will host "nightly news" live all weekend. for the first time in 37 years the house ethics committee voted to censure one of its own members. a devastating moment for a tearful charlie rangel. war hero and activist. >> i hope that you can see a way clear to make it that any action taken by me was not with the

intention to bring any disgrace in the house or to enrich myself personally or to, or consider by council to be corrupt. >> rangel was found guilty of 11 ethics violations, including improper fund-raising, failure to pay taxes and failure to report personal income. now, the full house is expected to approve the committee recommendations and then rangel would have to stand in the house while the speaker reads a resolution rebuking him. america meet your newly elected officials. this is the picture. incoming freshman class of the 212th congress. the new senators and representatives said cheese on the front steps of the capitol this morning. when and where. those are the two key questions right now surrounding the royal wedding of prince william and kate middleton and the answers come as early as today. neal sean is a royal watcher and he joins us live right now from outside westminster abbey.

>> nice to see you again, chris. yes, right in the heart, of course of westminster abbey behind me. you see that tabloid picture of kate middleton emerging from the abbey with a white stylish coat and this will be her main choice. wree can tell you, though, that she has looked at st. paul's and st. joseph's chapel in windsor but we think this is the number one venue that we'll all be looking towards next spring and summer. >> you say next spring or summer. the gentleman, the journalist who's a friend of theirs who interviewed them is putting the betting money on march. a lot of people who say there will be a rebellion because you want to have a nice, sunny day. that will vote for june or july. what are you hearing? >> you know, knowing catherine middleton or kate or whatever you want to call her now myself a little bit now, i'm guessing.

i know you girls like to get the dress right, chris. you don't want to be in a dress where you have to cover up simply because it's too chilly. so, i'm going for june and july where, hopefully here in england, finally, we may just get a little bit of summer. >> she looks smashing, i thought, in that blue dress. she wears them tight around her tiny little waist. but isn't that a brazilian designer and would there be pressure on her to do something and choose somebody from the uk? >> well, right, chris. you want to pick somebody who is a uk-based designer. interesting to note that the famouses blue dress now. it's retailing over here in the supermarket for around $20. so, i may send you one if you want to copy the look. >> really? there's a ripoff for 2$20? >> o20. i'll buy you two. you have one for the weekend. it's interesting that catherine is looking for many different designers.

what we can tell you she doesn't want to go for the fairy tale look. the big circular skirt. i think you're looking for something more classy and stylish and not too '80s. >> we will see. we're all excited to hear and i know you'll share it all with us. thank you so much. we have a lot more about these exciting royal nuptials in the next hour. >> do you have words of advice for your son, william, embarking on this in an even worst media environment? he's under a microscope already. >> well, don't take the advice is the media is my advice. >> "dateline" exclusive the man who would be king and more brian and charles ahead. clinton buddy james carville hitting obama with a scathing criticism. is it fair or part of a larger political strategy? and one man is climbing to great heights to call attention to climate change. richard lui, you have been

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>> we are headed down a path of absolute disaster if we don't get this deficit under control. co-chair of president obama's deficit reduction committee on "morning joe" pushing for his highly controversial report to tackle our nation's soaring deficit. trimming the deficit has been a cry for republicans fresh off their takeover of the house and senate. right now our national debt is approaching $14 trillion. the federal budget deficit now

at $1.3 trillion. but in the latest issue of "time" magazine columnist joe klein wants to know why this obsession with the deficit. joe joins me. hi. make your argument. >> well, i'm not against long-term deficit reduction, but right now we are in the midst of a real economic problem and unless we get our economy moving again, those numbers are going to expand even if we enact everything that bowles wants to enact. >> we can't do both at the same time? >> there has to be a priortuization and for us the moving. further more, a guy like bowles you see all these people screaming about the deficit and these are people from the financial community who, you know, who caused the, you know the crash in 2008. so, they're asking a lot of people in the middle of america whose mortgages are under water to take yet another hit on their old age pensions and health care. >> senator simpson was also on "morning joe" this morning and

he points about what we talked about before. for every dollar we're spending we're borrowing 41 cents. so far this year, we owe $3.2 trillion in interest. i guess the argument that they're making is how do you move forward when you're looking at those kinds of numbers? >> very easily. the inflation rate is near zero. you know, firms can borrow money to make new products. it's just that the incentive structure in this country right now is in favor and on wall street it is in favor of making deals rather than making new products. that really has to change. >> let me take off your columnist hat and put a little bit of political analysis hat on and ask you this. given what was in that report and the fact that it was pushed back on both sides, maybe on different things but pushed back nevertheless, is anything going to happen with this deficit reduction? >> i think the president will think he'll get some kind of social security deal that won't be a bad thing. but it's really important to look at the numbers. in the nbc/"wall street journal"

poll people hate this stuff. there is a way to close the deficit. you pay for it. it's what we did during the 1990s. bill clinton raised taxes on the wealthy and all of a sudden the deficit began to, you know, to decrease. and at the same time, you didn't have the negative impacts on the economy that republicans and conservatives always say that tax raising has. >> can i ask you about something totally different because we all had a good laugh about james carville because he always makes us laugh. when he basically said we could put the quote up because i don't really want to say the word. do we have that somewhere? he basically said that the president needs to man up, but he said it in more graphic language. there it goes. if hillary gave him, obama, one of hers, they'd both have two. >> so, hillary has three? isn't it weird? i think he means she is a whole lot tougher. >> there should be a statute of

limitations on james carville. on karl rove, as well. he had his eight years. karl rove has had his eight years. enough of those dguys. >> is it part of building -- >> not part of strategy at all. but i think the president does have a problem at this point and he has to make more clear to the american people, you know. when i was out traveling across the country in september, people don't know what the guy stands for and he has to make it very clear what he does stand for. hadn't been doing it too well. >> joe cliklein good to see you have a good weekend. >> okay. a horrifying end to the search of a ohio mother, son and friend. inside that truck is something familiar--

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deliberations continue in washington this morning in the chandra levy murder trial. a jury considering charges

against of guandique. he denies it and prosecutors have struggled, though, to directly link the suspect to the crime. it remains one of the capital's most enduring criminal charges. in ohio a tragic end to the search of three people. the bodies of a mother, son and family friend found in garbage bags stuff under to hollow tree. the only survivor is the family's 13-year-old daughter who was found over the weekend in the home of the accused kidnapper. michelle sugona, good morning. >> good morning. >> matthew hoffman gave them the information, is there some type of deal worked out? how did this all come about? >> in most cases, yes, chris. in this particular case what authorities indicated yesterday, the sharep, specifically, is that they received the information through his attorney.

so what may have happened is f hoffman gave them information where the bodies were, in fact, hidden. 20 miles from where the family went missing from and this is extremely graphic. they were appear to be dismemberred inside garbage bags stuff under to the base of a hollow tree. authorities had to do digging out of this tree to get everything out and send those bodies off to the coroner's office. >> the question is, why? is there any connection, why this family? do we know anything? >> well, from what authorities gathered the only connection they can put at this point is that his parents live pretty close to where the family and friend went missing from. as far as him being a boyfriend, there is indication that he may have somehow acquainted himself with the family beforehand, but no one else in their family says that they knew this guy. they knew hoffman at all. they said, we've never met him, we don't know him. it's a possibility he could have

been stalking them beforehand. it's just extremely tragic and it's just devastation. >> another tragic story out of california. a real-life murder mystery in hollywood, beverly hills the publicist ronni chasen who was gunned down tuesday after she left a movie premiere. what do we know about where this investigation is at right now? >> at this point there is a reward out, at last check, $100,000. authorities are still trying to figure out exactly the location where she was shot and they're doing this by creating their timeline because there were 911 calls placed from the beverly hills neighborhood. so, they're trying to figure out the exact point where where she was shot and to where her mercedes crashed near sunset boulevard and also trying to indicate that there was a report that came out late last night that the mayor spoke out and said she may have been shot from possibly an suv because of the way the angle of the bullets hit her. appeared to be a little bit higher and went down into the

vehicle. so, it's just, it's another bizarre tragedy. >> but they think it's a planned hit, they don't think this is just a wrong place, wrong time. >> that's correct. it does appear to be a planned hit. sometimes in these investigations, that makes it easier to figure out who did it sometimes because you can go back and you can start to trace e-mails, phone calls and interviewing people and figuring out if she had any enemies. anyone that had any grief with her and sort of back tracking from there as opposed to it being a random gun fire on a city street somewhere with no connections at all. >> michelle sigona, thank you so much. >> have a good day. what to do about the 48 states that now have a budget deficit. outgoing pennsylvania governor ed rendell with his take in three minutes.

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tonight? >> we have president bush on the program, everybody gets patted down. >> even you, this is even your show. >> tell me about it. listen, go easy. >> he's a good sport. you have to give him that. former president george w. bush showing his lighter side. more on that in a few minutes. we have some great guests this hour, pennsylvania governor ed rendell, galena espinoza and karen hanretty and psychotherapist robby ludwig. expanding their power to 29 state houses and promising deep cuts to budgets that are drowning in red ink. the mantra at this week's governor association meetings fiscal discipline. one of the big problems they face is federal mandates which is why rick perry of texas is

talking about opting out of the state medicaid program and others are looking for ways to block parts of obama's health care law. outgoing pennsylvania governor ed rendell joins us now. good morning, governor, how are you? >> good morning, chris. >> not getting a pat down anywhere that we're not seeing. >> not yet. >> let's talk about this because they have really had some tough words to say out of san diego where the republican governors are meeting. you know what they're saying. they're saying governors like you spent far too much money and they didn't have fiscal discipline and too many federal programs mandated that just piled up their deficits. what do you say? >> well, how much time do you have, chris? >> 2 1/2 minutes. >> let me start with how we spent too much money. "wall street journal" just released a report three days ago. pennsylvania one of ten states in the union to be considered fiscally stable and the only state in the northeast and the only large industrial state with

the exception of texas. i don't think anyone has to tell us about fiscal stability. we have taken $3.5 billion out of our budget since the recession in cuts. that's the problem that the republican governors are going to face. they're coming in and it's not like they're coming in and finding budgets with a lot of fat because every state democratic governor has had to make significant cuts during the recession because of the tremendous fall off in revenue. >> let's talk about some of those proposals. rick perry who has his proposal, the proposal to roll back some of the health care plan. the governor elect is talking about selling state liquor stores. >> well, selling state liquor stores would produce a one-time influx of revenue. let's assume it gets $1.4 billion. they put that towards the deficit next year. the problem with that, chris, as you know, for budgeting is what happens the following year? theres no $1.4 billion to plug in.

all you've done is brought yourself one year of leeway. it doesn't solve the problem. >> let me play for you what tom corbit said. he is the incoming governor of pennsylvania. here you go. >> we have been going in a direction where we increase our budget by 40%. we increte our debt by 40% and we continue to see a population of our young people leaving pennsylvania. we have great challenges in front of us, but i view those as a great opportunity to change what has not been working for the last 25, 30 years. >> and i don't want to just make this about pennsylvania, because you have a much larger perspective about this. but what can governors do? look, they're going to have to figure this stuff out. so, what are their alternatives? >> well, first of all, i just want to say that these he's wrong about young people leaving pennsylvania. young people are staying and

coming. city of pennsylvania have gained population, reversing a three-decade series of losses. what can governors do? they can certainly make some cuts. there is always more room to be cut. they have to renegotiate their contracts with their workforce. they've got to lay people off, although during my time as governor, we reduced state employees by nearly 5,000 positions. it will be very, very difficult. what governor corbett didn't grasp during the campaign and i don't think still hasn't grasped is most cuts are mandated. pension costs have risen by about $400 million a year. legally can't do anything about going back and changing those mandates. prisons is a cross driver. we don't control the number of prisoners, the judges do. we have to pay for each and every prisoner. medicaid is a cost driver and when the economy is bad, more and more people earn medicaid. they will find it very difficult

because a lot of the increases are in mandated area. the only area that they could cut and come up with half a billion dollars in cuts is higher education and k through 12 education. and i would suggest, chris, that that's a disastrous path to follow. >> meantime, you're off to civilian life very soon. tell me, is it true, you basically have not driven in 20 years? >> well, that's true. i ran for mayor of philadelphia in 1991 and i didn't drive myself during the campaign. i got elected mayor eight years and didn't drive myself. i ran for governor for two and i was dnc chair for one and didn't drive myself. as governor, i haven't driven eight years. fortunately the state gives you six more months of state protection and driving and in those six months i will have to relearn how to drive and to tell you the truth, chris, i wasn't a good driver before. >> so, in other words, we should telegraph where you are going to be going and people should just

clear the roads? >> absolutely. >> i take the subway everywhere, i know exactly how you feel. you and i get on the road at the same time, it's going to be dangerous. governor rendell, always good to see you. secretary of state hillary clinton is flexing her muscles and trying to broker that big arms treaty with russia. it is clinton who is doing wheeling and dealing behind the scenes. >> the administration will stand with them and do whatever it takes literally around the clock to reach out and answer questions and have discussions because we really -- this is not an issue that can afford to be postponed. >> now secretary clinton has pledged to reach out to republican jon kyl who is trying to single handlely torpedo this. "the new york times" report that they called john boehner and mark kirk after the election to congratulate them.

let's bring in our company. it's one thing when you're calling republicans like kyl to try to broker this deal and get start ratified, but those pest-election calls, is she doing her job, galena, or setting the stage for something more? >> with thone thing that everyo can agree on is that she is very shrewd. yes, this is a part of her job, but she is interested in higher office and i think this could be her paving the way for that. >> remember when her husband said this very interesting thing on the campaign trail. we reracked it, take a listen. >> i plan to do about one stop for everybody to help hillary run for president because she's one of only two members of the president's cabinet who cannot participate in politics. >> is this part of the strategy, do you think, karen? >> well, i'm still not convinced that hillary clinton is interested in challenging president obama in a primary.

i'm not sure that would be a wise or shrewd move for her to make. but, you're right. she's a smart politician. but i think she's probably more focused on achieving her goals as secretary of state and she knows what president obama may not understand, which is she is going to need the support of republicans to do that. and i think that's probably how the shrewdness is coming into play is reaching out to them so that she can have accomplishments as secretary of state that she thinks are important for the country. i may or may not agree with them. i think that's more where she's headed. >> you know, jennifer, she has said that she is tired. that after two years she thought she would step down from being secretary of state. where do you think that hillary clinton is going next? >> she is the secretary of state and it is her job to do that. she is good at reaching out to republicans and it is a good issue and more important issue. the more the public has to understand why it will happen. i don't think that she has any

larger political motivation and trying to do that other than it's an important thing to do and she's doing her job. and i would not be, i would be surprised if i know that she says she's tired and i think she is. >> you think she's going to stay on? >> i think she would stay like through the first term. i think that would be difficult, certainly difficult to lead at this point. she is not going to challenge president obama and president clinton is doing what politicians with good organizations do which is paying back their supporters with visits and the idea that she is going to somehow challenge obama is fantasy and i think it's unlikely that she will ever run for president again. >> let's talk about somebody who may very well challenge obama and that is sarah palin. more quotes leaking out from her book and this one is interesting to say the least. about the president and first lady. certainly his wife expressed

this view when she said during the 2008 campaign that she had never felt proud of her country until her husband started winning elections. in retrospect this shouldn't surprise us since both of them spent two decades in the pews of reverend jeremiah wright's church listening to his rants of america and white people. in full context she was talking about the american people coming together around some basic, common issues. but this doesn't sound to me, galena, like someone who thinks she is now going to go out and win over independents. >> thank you for putting it in full context because the thing that sarah palin is good at is picking and choosing. so often when she does that she proves herself to be factually inaccurate or just plain wrong. so, i think that there is a lot of stuff that sarah palin is saying right now and i'm not sure why we continue to pay attention. this is a woman, after all, who is dedicating her time to a reality show in which she has talked about the fact that being

outdoors to her is a lot more important than being in an office all day. is this really a woman we want to consider for running the country? >> we talked about that on "morning joe" this morning with the vice president joe biden and he was reminded of her statement that, yes, she thought she could beat barack obama in 2012, if she ran. let's take a listen. >> before we go, let me just show you sarah palin, your former rival for the vice presidential position talking about 2012. take a listen. >> i'm looking at the lay of the land now and trying to figure that out, if it's a good thing for the country, for the discourse, for my family if it's a good thing. >> if you ran for president, could you beat barack obama? >> i believe so. >> well, look -- you're going to get me in trouble.

i don't think she could beat president obama, but, you know, she's always underestimated so i think, i think i shouldn't say any more. >> probably a good decision, karen, by the vice president. what do you think? >> you know, i think that the best way a republican is going to beat president obama in 2012 is to focus on his policies, the direction he's taking the country and not who his pastor was for to years. he is a very controversial figure, reverend wright, but that's not the way to win in 2012. and, you know, whether it's sarah palin, i intend to think it won't be or someone else, they're going to have to be able to communicate well with voters, have a positive message for the country and some solutions, but it's not going to be looking back into barack obama's past. >> all right, karen, galena, jennifer, great morning to have you on. thank you so much. >> thanks.

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coming up at the top of the hour on "jansing & company" brian williams, former governor frank keating, former clinton adviser jamie floid krista freeland and barry mccaffrey. some environmental protests hold protests and some make movies and then some take it a little farther than that. take mt. everest that's where

eric larsen decided to make his mark. the latest massive peak he ascended to bring more attention to the state of our global environment. richard lui has the story. all part of our green week here on msnbc. >> also about people that have thick skin, evidently. this is a cold place that he came back from. eric larsen is the man we're talking about and also thick skinned if you look at him right here. he joins us by skype when it comes to his concern about global warming. i want to show folks what it was like for you up there. let's take a listen to this. >> it's about 35, 40 below right now. it's really cold. and it's been a tough two weeks. >> yeah, a tough two weeks. i can tell you, you can barely even move your face there. you climbed three poles over the course of 333 days. why are you doing this? why not just protest? >> well, my goal is to really connect people to what i call the last great frozen places left on the planet and really do something big to inspire people

to act on climate change issues. >> all right, now, eric, the "wall street journal" says that there are some 30% to 40% in the north pole that basically can survive over two years in terms of freezing and refreezing and now we're at 10% what was 30/40 before. we have video of you there, what did it look like? >> the arctic ocean is a beautiful ice cape and it is a beautiful environment. ice floating on water and moving around but it is definitely evident that the ice is melting and getting thinner and more open water and more rough ice which is also an indicator. >> last question for you here, eric, they say this concern is unfounded. how do you react to that? >> it's ridiculous. you know, you believe in the fundamental principles of science or you don't. the evidence is real and we need to act now. >> eric larsen, welcome back. i know you're in much warmer digs right now. good luck to you if you go back to any one of those poles. eric, evidently, as ware we were saying earlier, not afraid of

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researchers in italy have written a letter to a scientific journal about an 18-year-old man who suffered as mu attacks after how many men his girlfriend friended on facebook. a reverend is ordering his congregation to stay away from facebook. let's bring in psychotherapist dr. robby ludwig and whose book is "crushing it." dr. robby, now more than half a

billion people use facebook. is the pastor right, if you're married, stay away. >> i don't think it needs to be that extreme but you need to put boundaries in place because it's easy to connect with an old flame. in the past presocial media, if you were thinking about an old lover, chances are you wouldn't have a way to contact them or to call them would seem a little bit over the top. >> a lot of the times then your spouse is like secretly trying to go and look and see who is on your facebook page. >> but, what you can do is share passwords. there's a way to use it so that the communication is open between you and your partner and you have to remember it's not facebook causing affairs, people cause affairs. >> although it's also opportunity and, as she says, i think 55% more people are using facebook this year than last year. some crazy statistic. >> awesome. >> so, a lot of great things about it. but what about that down side? >> it's the same old game. hone honestly, looking at these

reports or hearing from that pastor, these people trying to make names for themselves. leveraging what is hot out th e there. the real crux of it, it's people. if you're a bad dude or bad lady, you deserve to lose. that's just the way it is. if you're unable to do the right thing, i promise you, it's not facebook's fault. sure, more opportunity, but at the same token -- >> maybe it's twitter's fault. eva longoria, we feel so bad for her. all the tweeting and we saw it with brett favre and before that we saw it with tiger woods. >> maybe for eva that was a good thing. it happened anyway, twitser not why tony was chasing gals. maybe it allowed her to speak to the world and maybe released a lot of that tension and it maybe makes her feel better. >> a lot of the other things is envy, too. it's like an ongoing christmas card and they're showing their happy events and where they're going on vacation and it's very easy and i hear it from patients to look on other people's pages and think the grass is greener.

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