good friday, everyone. i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast and the big story we're covering today, president obama meeting with nato leader in lisbon right now, facing tough questions at home and abroad. >> the bill has not passed. >> on capitol hill, pre-holiday

gridlock. republicans block emergency benefits for those who have been out of work for a long time. >> the republican party has just given millions of jobless americans very little to be thankful for. >> reporter: and there's still no agreement on what to do about those bush tax cuts. >> we have to be sure to do everything in our you powfixate those tax cuts for the middle class. >> reporter: and time is running out for the middle class. >> this is the wrong direction we need to recover from the recession. >> reporter: the now class arrives in january with the republicans in charge of the house, and that could make it tough for president obama to accomplish his top goals. he's on the road in lisbon, portugal, for a nato leaders summit working on an afghanistan withdrawal strategy. >> the summit is an important opportunity for us to align an approach to transition in afghanistan. >> reporter: and he's launching a high-stakes battle over missile defense, pushing to ratify the s.t.a.r.t. treaty by

the end of the year. >> it's a bad deal altogether if it doesn't get passed. >> chuck todd is in lisbon traveling with the president now. how does the president go about trying to get the support for the s.t.a.r.t. treaty? >> well, first of all, he's working on this they're trying to use dick lugar, the indiana republican, top republican on foreign releases, as their point man on this. he is sort of the lone republican publicly supporting s.t.a.r.t. right jon kyl, his clairgs of saying, let's not rush this, vote during the lame duck, is waiting a lot of potential republican supporters of this treaty on the sidelines. the biggest complaint you hear from republicans is, hey, the administration hasn't made the case on this treaty. they've had questions, they haven't heard the public case. the white house feels this is purely a political attack on them. and what the president has to fear is, here with nato where

you do have missile defense is going to be on the table, what to do about ballistic missile defense against ballistic missiles including ones that could come from iran, that that is going to -- if somehow the united states can't deliver a s.t.a.r.t. treaty, it's going to end up weakening the u.s.'s position and influence nato. >> and they said that. this is about national security. if you don't move forward on this, you're getting in the way of national security. let's talk about afghanistan, withdrawal strategy, the other priority the president is really focused on. >> it is. and the buzz word today is the word "transition." you're not hearing the president talk withdrawal but in some statements already he's made today he talks about how this is the beginning of the transition. what that means is, the whole idea and we've heard this before during the iraq war, as afghan's army stands up, nato and u.s. forces can stand down. and what the united states is briefing nato allies on and want

to get nato to sign off on is this plan that would begin the transition to afghan security forces over a three-year period, that it begins in the spring of 2011 and goes through and ends by 2014. karzai is here, president of afghanistan. he's of course got his own opinions, talked about the idea of u.s. combat forces pulling out even faster. so the question is, will nato sign off on this? remember the war is not very popular in the united states right now, even more unpopular in a lot of places -- in aloft nato nations. >> chuck todd, thanks a lot for the update. the countdown is on for a full house vote for charlie rangel's punishment for breaking the house rules. yes, i'm in the dark. let there be light. nbc's luke russert is live on capitol hill. it's interesting how when i say things they just magically appear. let's talk about rangel. the house panel has recommended

censure. what happens now with the vote in the house? >> reporter: well, contessa, the house committee recommended the punishment of sen sure, the second most severe punishment they can recommend. it's only happened 22 times in the history of the house and hasn't happened since 1983. what exactly happens now is the censure motion will go to the house floor and his colleagues in the house will decide whether or not to give him this punishment. what can occur on a motion to recommit, a house rule where someone can offer an alternat e alternative, someone can say, we aren't going to censure rangel, we'll give him a reprimand, what newt gingrich got, but if he is censured, he has to stand in the well of the house and listen to all of his ethical wrongdoings read aloud while he's publicly admonished. the idea is to humiliate him.

aloft democrats to avoid the scenario. you have someone who wants to drain the swamp and here she would be going against a dear friend, a colleague of over dozens of years. it would almost be the icing on the cast of a terrible few months for the democrats. but this will go forward possibly the week after thanksgiving, maybe into december. but it will happen this congress, tess sta. >> luke, thanks. joe miller's fight for alaska senate isn't over. he's asking a federal judge to stop officials from certifying the election. the guy just won't give up. lisa murkowski won. miller is challenging thousands of the write-in votes for murkowski. president obama has been away in portugal. vice president joe biden is trying to break through the gridlock on capitol hill. on "morning joez" he talked about the vote to block an extension of unemployment benefits of pi think it's a

gigantic mistake, not in terms of what historically the kroi that's done, we've always extended unemployment, but in terms of the economy. the single biggest stimulus to the economy is the unemployment benefits we're paying. these people go spend the money. >> biden also reacting to sarah palin's comment that she could beat obama in 2012. we'll show that to you in the next half hour. developing in new zealand, 27 miners are missing after an explosion at a coal mine in the remote mountainous area. five workers did escape, but rescue teams have not yet ent entered the mine because they're worried about safety. authorities suspect a buildup of gas caused that explosion. up next, a hollywood murder mystery. a publicist to the stars shot down in her car. police say it was no random shooting. sarah palin slams the first lady in her book. plus -- as i mentioned, you're going to hear what the vice president thinks of palin's chances of beating obama.

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some big city airports are moving to ditch the tsa and follow a florida congressman's call to hire private security for airport check points. some passengers might think that would resolve this uncomfortable situation. the prospect of tsa intimate pat-downs at the airport. charlie lee oka is with the consumer travel alliance. i want to be clear. in many cases, charlie, private security is already working at the airport and it really wouldn't be that much different than what the tsa is doing, correct? >> you're right. because they have to follow exactly the same rules that the tsa follows themselves. so the big difference would be that the private inspectors or the private security officers wouldn't come under the federal payroll. so even though the federal

government might be -- and the local governments might end up paying them, they're not going to be on let's say the long-term retirement plans and so on that the current tsa officers face. so a lot of the representatives look at this as a way to save money. >> so if they're saving money -- and i just mention again charlie is on skype so we sometimes get bugs in the audio -- are you with with the travel alliance, are you feeling comfortable -- apparently we've just lost charlie. you know, the big question that people are asking about privatizing airport security is, is it effective? is it efficient and are there any safety concerns here by having private people in the roles of keeping terrorists from taking down planes? i'd like you to weigh in. it's my big question today. do they have a role? you can get me on facebook, on twitter. my e-mail address is contessa@msnbc.com. sorry i lost charlie because i

wanted to hear more from him. sorry, charlie. police found the bodies of a missing ohio mom, her son and a family friend after the suspect told cops where to look. it tops our stories far and wide. people in mt. vernon held out hope until police found the woman, her son and friend all dead. >> the bodies were located in a wo wooded area inside garbage bags in a hollow tree. >> herrmann's daughter sarah was found alive in matthew's home sunday. matthew is charged with kidnapping so far and now will face murder charges. a seattle police officer is on leave after surveillance video shows him kicking a 17-year-old suspect several times. the plain clothes cop was arresting the teen in an undercover drug investigation. the tape has outraged the community. officers are now being investigated for not alerting top brass that it had happened.

the woman who had to share her husband with the girl she helped kidnap is taking the witness stand in his trial again today in salt lake city. wanda barzee told the jury yesterday brian david mitchell was possessive and controlling in their marriage. b barzee herself is serving 15 years after pleading guilty to kidnapping' lies beth smart in 2002. >> p hollywood police say a popular publicist may have been targeted for murder. ronni chasen was gunned down. police firt thought it was a case of road rage. now they tell the hollywood reporter they think the murder was premeditated. nbc's george lewis has those details. >> reporter: a glittering hollywood preemie for the movie "burlesque." as the stars of the film, cher and christina aguilera pose for photographers, publicist ronni chasen can be spotted on the

sidelines, the last pictures of her alive. >> she was such a great person and to have such a violent, horrible thing happen, just did not compute at all. >> reporter: police say early tuesday morning chasen drive her mercedes west on sunset boulevard into beverly hills calling her office voice mail at 12:22 a.m. to leave a to-do lift for the following day. six minutes later, as she turned off sunset heading toward her wilshire boulevard condo, shots rang out. >> the likelihood of gunshots in this neighborhood is just so unlikely i really didn't think that's what it was. then i came to realize that it probably was something that 15 minutes later when police arrived. >> reporter: chasen's car wound up on the curb. paramedics frantically worked on her, multiple gunshots in her chest. and took her to the hospital where she was pronounced dead. >> the hollywood reporter quoting an unnamed beverly hills official say police believe the killing was planned in advance. >> reporter: the theory

according to the story is that another vehicle pulled up alongside chasen's mercedes and that the shots were fired from that second car. police would not confirm the report. >> people in hollywood are more than horrified. they are in absolute shock. >> reporter: ronni chasen helped create oscar buzz for countless movies and the people who make them. among the films, "on golden pond," "driving miss daisy," more recently "shrumdog millionaire" and "once." her specialty was movie music. >> she had a timeless energy, those people who get things done. >> reporter: police have removed items including computers from chasen's office and home. rewards totalling $125,000 have been offered for information leading to the capture of her killer or killers. george lewis, nbc news, beverly hills, california. a dummy bomb sparks an

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well, big oil meets big electric today in hughes toon, the city known for gas pumps an oil gshers is getting the nation's largest network of

electric car charging stations. david crane is the president and ceo of energy which is launching the new network. david, why texas? i mean, everything is bigger in texas. that's the way they like it their big oil is a big deal down there. why electric cars? >> i may be counterintuitive, but it's a great market, houston in particular because it's a hub and spoke city. quite frankly there are a lot of garages, people park their cars in personal garage unlike here in new york city. you have to keep in mind that the service station of the future when you're talking about electric vehicles is your garage. that's a very important thing. and texas considers itself to be the center of energy innovation, sort of the california of energy. >> yeah. so is this sort of chicken and the egg problem? people aren't going to buy electric cars if there's no place in public to charge them, and if people don't have electric cars, then how do you support electric charging stations? >> well, there's the question of

what's -- the electric car is a classic disruptive technology, and the technology hurled we had to overcome was range initially. now there's batteries, lithium ion batteries, that will take a car more than 100 miles. since americans only drive an average of 40 miles a day, the range question has been solved. what we're solving with what we came out yesterday was the new problem of range anxiety. even though people have the range, they don't want to use if p they're afraid they'll get caught. >> you don't wanted to be stranded. >> exactly. >> let's go back to home where you think something like 80% to 90% of charging actually occurs. you're offering these new charging stations. what's special about that as opposed to just plugging your car in? >> keep in mind, a lot of focus on what we now say was one out of three elements we're offering. first of aushlgs we're going to put a fast charger in your garage, your main charging element. the second thing that was really focused on yesterday is we're

going to put a series of convenience chargers around the greater houston area. that's going to handle your range. >> what does that cost? >> it's all one package deal. it's billed through your home electricity bill. and the third element is all of the electricity you can use to fuel your car. so for approximately $80 a month, you know, fixed charge, you can drive as far as you can in your electric car. you've got the fast charger in your garage and you have access to this network around the city. >> 80 bucks a month, that's probably far less than what people are spending with any kind of real kmult. >> the average person is spending $120 a month, three fill-ups a month. >> on gas. >> of course the convenience aspect. you never need an oil change, go to a service station. >> let me ask you, are you getting government incentives, stimulus dollars, tax breaks? >> shocking as this may seem, this is an all private sector initiative at this point. >> if you didn't need government incentive to do it, do you think there are other green initiatives that could proceed

without the government saying, we've got to do this? >> well -- >> that's what the capitalists are arguing, this is a free market system. it will happen on its own. >> i believe there are a lot of emerging technologies that need support to get over the hump because they have economies to scale. i wouldn't be making that argument. i'm just saying in this case, this is a private sector approach, and i would tell you that the one thing the government can do, if anyone in washington is listening to this show -- >> they with are, i'm sure. >> turn hov lanes in green leans and let plug-in vehicles drive. that's the ultimate convenience benefit thaxt's what hov lanes were first made for. >> absolutely. >> was to reduce tailpipe emissions and nothing does that like electric vehicles. >> i think that's a great idea. i wish you the best of luck. we'll see if you can convince hughes tonians to purchase the electric cars. they're not cheap. thaifr going to rst in their vehicles. i hope to see how that develops. >> yeah.

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overnight to catch the new harry potter movie, the movie poised to set a box office record. the u.s. military is sending heavily armoreded battle tanks to afghanistan for the first time. the president is in portugal talking with nato allies about a strategy for getting out of afghanistan. >> i look forward to working with our nato and isaf partiers as we move toward a new phase, a transition to afghan responsibility that begins in 2011 with afghan forces taking lead for security across afghanistan by 2014. >> nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard angle is live. lichd chd richard, for a lot of folks i think the surprising news would be, what do you mean it's the first time we've sent in heavy armored tanks? >> reporter: well, there's not really a need on a day-to-day basis for tanks in this kind of fight. is it a counterinsurgency. so for a long time we've been

hearing words like the soldiers are out there to support the afghans. they're there to protect the people. sending in tanks is a much different message t. shows that you are planning to engage in heavy combat, in heavy battle, covering long distances. now, this is not a large tank division that is coming in. it's just about a single company of tanks. they'll be going to the marines in helmand province. that is a relatively flat, large province where marines have been brought in as reinforcements. so it is also a sign that the marines intend to intensify their combat there, and it is sending a different message to the taliban, to the people of afghanistan that this is a counterinsurgency still but one that now has and will continue to have more firepower. >> and in speaking of the withdrawal strategy now, where do we stand on that? i mean, they said, okay, somewhere 2011 we'll start pulling troops ott. does that still look like it's going to stand?

>> reporter: something will happen in july of 2011. most likely a few troops will come out so that everyone will be able to stick to their timetable. what we are seeing right now is the playing out of the exit strategy of the war with here. and it really began about a year ago when president obama made his speech at west point announcing the surge. at the time there were about 68,000 u.s. troops in afghanistan. he promised to add 30,000 troops. those 30,000 troops were all in place by this last summer. so we are now roughly at 100,000 american troops on the ground, the 68 plus the 30. this current level of approximately 100,000 will last about another year until july 2011 at which point a small number of those troops will start to come down. and then the transition to

afghan control will continue quite slowly all the way until the end of 2014. so that means four more years of just the combat mission here and then after that a training mission which is likely to last several more years after that. >> richard, thank you very much for the update in afghanistan. quite a reaction from vice president joe biden on sarah palin's remarks about her presidential chances in 2012. >> if you ran for president, could you beat barack obama? >> i believe so. >> well, look, i don't -- you're going to get me in trouble. >> okay, okay. >> i don't think she could beat president obama, but, you know, you know, she's always underestimated so i think -- i think i shouldn't say any more. >> we're waiting to hear from the white house about another

excerpt from sarah's book due out next week. here is the latest leaked tidbit where palin attacks the first lady. certainly his wife expressed this view when she said during the 2008 campaign that she said she never felt proud of her country until her husband started winning elections. dm retrospect, i guess this shouldn't surprise us since both of them spent almost two decades in the pews of reverend jeremiah wright's church listening to his rants against america and white people. mama grizzly also laid into levi johnston and reality tv even though she and her daughter stars in them. prince william is getting words of wiz wisdom from his fa about the spotlight and trying to make a marriage work. >> do you have words of advice for your son william embarking on this in an even worse media environment? he's under a microscope already. >> don't take the advice off the media is my advice.

>> but how could he possibly -- >> it is very intrusive indeed and very difficult. and i feel for him deeply because in my day it was difficult enough. >> the entire interview with brian williams airs tonight in a "tate line nbc" special, the man who will wibe king. brian williams, so you go to great britain, you talk with brins charles. this was before the announcement became public about william and kate middleton. >> he told me about it. i've just been walking around knowing it for a couple of months. >> what was his reaction about his children moving forward into territory that he's been there, done that, and it was difficult? >> oh, he's been there, done that, three decades ago before the web, when there was one cable news network, before the jute ne was anything like the way it is. people say newspapers are dying? fly to london. go past a newsstand when the papers come out. it's still robust and they love the royal family.

so there's a certain amount of advice he can give his sons, but you can also make the argument it's a new world, and there's no way poor prince william and kate, call me katherine, are going to go into this fully gidded because we don't know what it's going to be like. try honeymooning. i don't know how they're going to get away on the planet without somebody putting a drone, a blimp, someone finding a way to photograph. >> private island. >> i hope so for their sake. >> so you actually talk yyou to him about these family discussions, that his son is going to follow in his footstep nz more ways than one with. here you are talking about who will take over the throne. >> what do you see assed job description of prince of wales? >> well, the trouble is there isn't a job description so you have to rather make it up as you go along, which doesn't always appeal to everybody else. >> do families like yours talk about how to be a monarch?

>> no. i suppose really you pick it up as you go along fshgs you knif t i mean, from a very young age. and it gradually dawns on you what is actually it's all about or what the implications are. you watch and you learn. >> you've poent pointed out here is a guy who's actually reaching the age where a lot of folks are considering retirement and he still has yet to take on the job he's been groomed for his whole life. >> he's 62. then you when you talk to him about his next job, perhaps becoming king, he has a nice way of reminding you that that means his mother would have to die. but then you look at his life and contessa he has so many passions. he's into everything. they trieded to put up an ugly building in london and he denounced it. he's into organic farming and the environment. what's hard to believe and see into the future is how he could become the monarch and stay with

that role that monarchs remain newt in matters of policy and politics, how he could just drop those interests. i think it's safe to predict he would be different. >> especially on the environment. is that something he's grooming his sons to take over in his footsteps in terms of being a spokesperson for, how do we make the planet? >> they make fun of him that the house is dark and cold. i asked him that. i said, do you preach this to your boys and they're, like -- >> boy by the way, castles are typically dark and cold. >> unless you screw in a light bulb and keep the heat on. but they're like my kids, they give their dad a hard time. it's what they do, parts of their job. in that respect, while they're so different from us, while he's so different, i'm sitting there watching our monitor reliving our trip to scotland, they really are in some respect a family. when both boys are home, he's happy. he's raised them as a single parent and he has a little bit more time on his hands than most of us. >> brian, good to see you.

>> always. >> i want to mention when the special airs, tonight the entire interview with prince charles, an hour-long special, the man who will with be king, tonight 9:00 p.m. eastern time on nbc. then at 10:00, prince charles environmental documentary "harmony" airs as well. want to tell me about "nightly news" tonight? >> everyone is about to fly for thanksgiving. we're going to talk about the tsa scanners and pat-downs and 17 airports who have said no to the tsa and they're hiring private security. this is a hot-button topic right now. >> thank you for joining us. >> thanks. up next, i talk with the director of "fair game." movie about the outing of cia operative valerie plame. how he's trying to get americans to really think about their role in a democracy. [scraping] [horns honking] with deposits in your engine, it can feel like something's holding your car back.

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>> well, that and bring iing osa to justice, the weapons of mass destruction. i would remind people that he had the capability of making those. there were a lot of moments of disappointment and joy. >> bush has been asked again and again about cheney's role in his presidency, about the outing of cia agent valerie plame and the mutation of scooter libby's sentence. that wholed ordeal is on the big screen now in a film called "fair game." >> if this a knife fight, sir, right now we're fighting it alone. >> joe wilson versus the white house, huh? i feel as a friend i should tell you that those men, those few men in that building over there, are the most powerful men in the history of the world. how much of a stretch do you think it would be for them to take on joe wilson?

joe is out there on his own, valerie. >> doug wyman directed "fair game," with me now in the studio. there are significant chunks in the film doted to the leadup to the iraq war, showing the vice president's team going into the cia looking at the raw material, the raw intelligence data. how do you feel when you're sitting here listening to george w. bush on leno saying that he's disappointed they went in and never found weapons of mass destruction, though he insists they had the capacity to make them? >> you know, obviously "fair game" takes a very different point of view on those events. "fair game" tells a story of valerie plame wilson who is a covert cia operative, the most super secret of the officers we put in the field and her husband joe wilson, a former ambassador, called an american hero by the first president bush, and between the two of them they actually were part of the team

that was investigating iraq supposed weapons program and what they discovered in the run-up to the war was that there was no weapons program and that's what was reported up the chain to the white house. and obviously the president told the american people a very different story than what the people in the field had actually found out. >> you really approach this in a way, probably more like a documentary filmmaker in the amount of research that went into it. how closely do you adhere to the facts as they stand, not opinion, not conjecture, but the facts in this case? >> we based the film almost exclusively on the work of special prosecutor pat fitzgerald. we really stayed out of the partisan fray on this. the facts were very clear. ultimately a jury of 12 convicted fd scooter libby unanimously. when you look at the facts, there's not a lot of he said, she said. the facts are very clear, and pat fitzgerald, people should remember, was actually appointed

u.s. attorney by president bush. so this is definitely -- you know, valerie plame heself, you know, worked for both democratic and republican administrations, she just buried her father in arlg ston national cemetery. her brother was a marine in vietnam. there will be people who want to attack the film and think, this is it a bunch of left-wing democrats trying to attack president bush. but i think the bottom line, we based the film on the work of pat fitzgerald and a unanimous jury are verdict. >> and scooter libby was the only person who paid any kind of price for the outing of valerie plame, for destroying her career in the military. and what the movie seems to indicate is that there may have been lives lost because of that outing. let me play part of what former president george w. bush said when he was asked about commuting the sentence for scooter lib country. >> that's going to get my mad. >> i chose to commute his sentence, i felt he had paid

enough of a penalty. >> critics immediately said, if you're lawyer to bush, you don't have to go to prison. so it didn't come without a price. >> that's right. >> yet vice president cheney wa wanted more. >> he did. he wanted me to pardon him. this is a decision that was -- the last decision of the presidency, really. i chose to let the jury verdict stand. >> what's your reaction? >> oh, well, first i think it's very telling that, you know, given how much work was -- pressure was put on george bush to pardon scoot he libby even bush couldn't find it within himself to pardon him. remember scooter lib ji a convicted felon, five counts. these are serious charges. >> and furthermore, you've told me the other night this was a priority of yours, that you wanted to spark a conversation about what does it mean to live in a democracy? what do we demand of our nation's leaders when it comes to getting up in front of cameras, in front of rotters and what comes out of your mouth? >> i hope people who ultimately

see the film are inspired by joe wilson and valerie plame. you know, the film is from their point of view. and i hold them in the highest regard. between the two of them, four decades of public service and who chose to go out on a limb and take on the most powerful men in the world because they believed in something. and i'm hoping that i for one am inspired daily by the example set by valerie plame and joe wilson. and they remind us that the president of the united states works for us. it's not the other way around. >> doug, great to see you. appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> good luck with the film. ahead, a rock legend and a green giant. chuck lavelle, next. for us to write at least an hour to two every single day. you can see this? of course i can see you. but, steve, i'm thinking-- it's like you're standing-- it's like you're standing right there. it's like i'm touching you. yeah. introducing cisco umi, together we are the human network.

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rock legend. an icon really. now sharing another passion of his with us today, renewable energy. chuck, good to see you back on the show. >> wonderful to be with you, contes contessa. really appreciate the time. >> you have a new book coming out, "growing america smart strong and sustainable." we've been talking about green all this week. how do you move america from a heavily oil-dependent country where we like to buy everything in boxes and throw it all away, how do you move us into a new green era? >> well, i think america is moving on its own really. i think everyone is really interested in changing the ways of the past, getting away from the dependence on foreign oil we've all discussed for the past few years. you know, in my case, being a tree farmer, biomass is certainly front and center for my concerns. you know, we're experimenting with biomass for electricity, contessa. we're experimenting with it for

liquid fuels. even high-energy fuels, companies like honeywell, for instance, are doing some research to make jet fuels and high-octane gasolines out of biomass. but certainly wind, solar, and all the things that we've been talking about lately are very, very important. >> does the government have to change policy in order to influence change on a wide scale from companies down to family level? >> i think so. i do. you know, it's been unfortunate to see the gridlock in congress. hopefully with new members in there maybe there will be movement. i think america is pressuring our lawmakers to make movements in the right direction where we're talking about environmental issues and energy issues. you know, there's some policy things that need to be set up you, concerning biomass, for instance, even the definition of b biomass. going forward i think we'll get some of those things cleared up so we can engage.

>> i can't let you go without asking about keith richards' new biograp biography. everyone is talking about, could it happen? could we see another rolling stones tour next year? can you give me inside information? >> well, i could tell you that i've bought keith's book and i've been reading. it's an absolutely fascinating read. i don't know if you've had a chance to get into it, but it really is a fantastic piece of work. he's so honest, and his wit is amazing. good sense of humor, great stories. >> that has nothing to do with being on tour next year. are you going on tour? >> well, i've heard nothing official from the guys yet, but as we know keith has dropped some hints here and there. >> yeah. >> it has been -- i say it's been three years since we've worked so i think we're all kind of itching to get back on stage and in front of audiences. >> a lot of people are crossing their fingers hoping you'll say yes and keith richards and the rest of the gang will say yes, too.

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