let's support the small business owners getting our economy booming with the first ever small business saturday. on november 27th, sh small. it's going to be huge. [trumpet playing "reveille" fades to silence] the rules are flying. the government tries to clear up confusion over what you need to know to get on a plane this holiday season. new plan of attack. a report today on how al qaeda plotted its last terror attempt on the chief. so what's next? controversy at the vatican. a new book from the pope raises some questions on the church's condom policy. we have been walking on air. it's all so brilliant and

exciting. >> shut up. >> what? >> i say shut your mouth. >> a royal spoof. "snl's" take on the meeting between the prince's new bride-to-be and the queen. that's going to be good. good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt and welcome to "msnbc sunday." remarks from president obama. the president returned late last night to the white house after work ought a deal that will transition security in afghanistan to the local forces, this by 2014. but those intense security pat-downs at the nation's airports grabbed the attention as well. he defended the tsa. >> the preertds that they've been putting in place are the only ones right now that they consider to be effective against the kind of threat we saw in the christmas day bombing.

>> mike viqueira is in washington. what else did he have to say on the issue? >> i tell you. the president had three international summits in ten days and the biggest headlines coming out of that, what about the tsa pat-downs stateside? everybody upset. we know the story. if you don't want to go through the scanners, which many consider to be quite humiliating, frankly, you go through some of these pat-downs which people consider to be even more humiliating. it's being a huge issue and chuck todd stood up and asked the president about the s.t.a.r.t. treaty and the passdowns. he said, look, ever since the failed christmas day bombings over the skies of detroit last christmas, you remember he failed to light his underwear on fire and failed to designate the bomb, they've found a way to detect devices just like that

one. said he doesn't go through these patdowns so he doesn't have any personal experience obviously flying on air force one, but he said he's asked the tsa to constantly rethink and recalibrate what they need to do to ensure americans' safety. he comes back and says tsa says this is what is necessary. he comes back on this to say how they impij on some people's privacy and what can be done otherwise to ensure the security of americans who are flying, especially this holiday season, alex. >> i understand people's frustrations, and what i've said to the tsa is that you have to cob standly refine and measure whether what we're doing is the only way to assure the american people's safety. and you also have to think through are there other ways that are less intrusive. >> so the president acknowledging that the huge security apparatus surrounding

the war on terror has caused a lot of inconveniences around the world, especially in the united states here when you're traveling, but he says for now there's nothing else that can be done, alex. >> okay. mike viqueira at the white house. meanwhile at the airports the holiday travel season is just getting into full swing and nbc's michelle franzen is joining me. good morning to you. >> good morning. the big headline is planned security protest which could cause disruption for thanksgiving air travelers. passengers are who fed up over the new security measures are turning to the internet, calling people to boycott the full body scans on wednesday. that's the day before thanksgiving. they want passengers to decline the body scanners which taken ten seconds and, instead, submit to the pat-downs. that could cause major delays. an estimated 1.6 million passengers are expected to fly. many have an opinion on this new

security measure. >> it's a silly, ridiculous waste of time. >> i think the entire process is a waste. >> if it keeps us safe, i'm not too worried about it. >> and the internet is buzzing with thousands of people venting their frustrations. there's even a site that claims to post the views of tsa workers, and many anonymously say they don't like the new body scanners and enhanced pat-downs either. recent polls show about 80% of the traveling public supports this increasing security. >> we will be thorough in our screening to make sure that everybody gets on every flight, has a high level of confidence and assurance that everybody else around them has been thoroughly screened. >> in response to that body scanner boycott, tsa officials say they're predicting still a smooth holiday travel season. alex? >> apparently people are so confused about the procedures --

there's a new poll that explains all that? >> yes. of course, the new procedure this morning, that new poll, many air travelers say they're not sure what to expect when they head to the airport to catch a flight. a new poll conducted by the consumer travel alliance shows more than half the merns, 56%, say they're more confused than ever about the new tsa rules. 41% say they're just as confused and 3% is less confused. >> that's sort of confusing. it seems apparent since we're covering it all the time. >> it's going to be a busy week. in a few seconds we're going to talk to the co-founder of the website "we won't fly." well, the terrorist group behind the plot to bring down two u.s. cargo planes with mail bombs says it was easy. the al qaeda offshoot says the cost of carrying out the not was

$4,200. the bombs were made with ink cartridges packed with explosives. they were addressed from yes, ma'am ento synagogues. they were intersected last month. in a half hour we'll have a new plan in that magazine. german authorities are searching for two suspected suicide bombers. th they're believed to be planning an attack on a prominent location in the german capital sometime in the coming week. the german paper reports that al qaeda was plans a possible attack next year in the parliament in berlin. they call that report highly speculative. german chancellor merkel is urging calm. for the first time president obama says he wants them to be done with major combat by the

end of 2014 but he's not -- >> as of 2014. i'll make that determination when i get there. >> and the president making that remark saturday at the end of the nato summit in lisbon, portugal. major troop reductions won't take place unty till it is clear they can handle their ore security. here at home winter storms came in time. drivers were forced to break out tire chain. a winter storm warning is in effect in the lake tahoe area until this afternoon. let's go to the weather channel ice i ice's alex wallace. >> we're basking in the sunshine and warmth compared to what we're dealing with the west, really dumping in the snow as you mentioned in in parts of the sierra nevada. a batch of thunderstorms actually moving through this

spot. so it's a rather active time for us and we'll be piling on more snow over the next 24 to 48 hours. lake tahoe, another one to two feet of snow. mammoth lakes, 10 to 15. and park city, 10 to 15 there. the ski lovers, they're loving that. why don't we zoom ahead to the holiday. thanksgiving eve, what we're going to find is a little bit of weather here. up through the ohio river valley. i think thanksgiving eve will be dry in the northeast. so new york city, low 50s and partly sunny skies. that begins to change for us as we get to actual turkey day. westward, though, things will be generally dry, but we're going to notice the temperatures taking quite a bit of a dive. very, very chilly and frigid numbers start to ride all the way down into the south, alex. >> i'm just worried about the thanksgiving macy's day parade. we'll see what happens.

thank you. >> a massive manhunt for a gunman accused of shooting a park worker. he was last seen fleeing on foot. the search began after a parks ranger was shot three times friday night while patrolling a bike trail. he is listed in critical but stable condition. talk about a scary wakeup call. this is the sene saturday after an out of control pickup truck went barreling right through their bedroom wall. amazingly enough the pair esc e escaped without a scratch. the police have yet to sea if he will be charged. confusion and controversy over a part of the pope's new book. what did he say about condoms and what did he mean. first, growing divide. it shows the political divide amongst american people getting deeper.

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a stunning report in today's new york times says north korea has secretly built a new facility. it's raised questions it could pose to international security. we're joining from london with the very latest. what is the latest on this quite concerning news? >>. >> that's right, alex. this doctor said he has more

than a thousand centrifuges used in making nuclear weapons. he said he was stunned at how sophisticated the plant was according to reports he made. this draws up new questions about what their intentions of their program is and now their program is moving from a plutonium-based program to a uranium-enrichled one which is much easier to hide and much easier to expand on. it's thrown up a whole bunch of new concerns and a new headache for the obama administration. >> ollie, in terms of the surprise factor, are people taken by surprise by this truly? >> well, i mean they've always had a pretty clandestine program. these guys have had a bad track record about being transparent so i don't think there's any huge surprises. they kicked out the nuclear inspectors a few years ago and this plant wasn't prevalent a few years ago.

i think the motives behind it isn't a surprise. >> what kind of implications does it have in terms of the united states and the global community? . mean it's got huge implications. one of the reasons that the people have speculated that the north koreans have done this is to bring the international community back to the negotiating table. the north koreans have a track record of pushing things to the limit and saying, okay, fine, things are so dangerous, let's sit down and talk and people are usually bowing down to these threats but the obama administration doesn't seem to be bending toward the sort of threatses by the chinese, so we have to see how this plays out. this probably is an intention to bring people back to the negotiating table to get more aid for food programs rolling again, but we're going to have to see if it works again this time. >> it's an interesting tactic.

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on election night, you see blue on the two coasts, you see a couple of dots in urban areas, and the rest of the country is red. of course, the population, the dense population basically is on the coast and in the cities, and the democrats do better there, but these last elections, democrats got the lowest share of the white vote than any time since the end of world war ii, and what that says is that the democrats are losing the folks that we used to call the reagan democrats, white, blue collar workers who really feel like they've been left behind, they've been especially hurt because of the job recession and you look at a state like ohio and every democrat lost in this last election. so the state has gone from blue to red. and ohio is a state that a democrat needs to win the presidency. so this does spell serious trouble not only for democrat, r but for the country because it tells us that the manufacturing

is decimated. they're really suffering. if the two parties really wanted to get something done they would come up with a jobs policy that would target this. >> interesting. on the heels of what eleanor just said are you in agreement that it's hurting the democratic party more if not the world but for republicans too. >> i think both parts should find something to be concerned about. this day is going to be used to calibrate and shape political messages going forward. it's going to be used in candidate recruitment, fund-raising, voter turnout operations for the next election. so this information, this analysis and ones like it are of concern to both parties, and i think that this specific study, i think republicans can look at this and also be a little bit concerned about their future going forward.

the segments of the population where democrats are doing well are ones that are growing. so i think republicans have to look at that and think how do we do better with minority voters? how do we do better with more educated voters because the segments in which they do well bode well for them in 2012, as eleanor mentioned, especially for president obama. these are areas where he was already weak, but i think they have to worry about what that means for their future long term. >> so overall, eleanor, with the coalition remaining intact, the minorities, the higher educated voters, but the white working class moving away from the midterms, how do they address it? >> i think they really do have to do bet were those voters. i think because of the demographics, the electorate will be different in 2012. there will be more young people, people of color. but if the president doesn't improve his standing with his voters somewhat, i think his

re-election really is in danger. but as emily said, the republicans have problems too. when you look at california, they had two women, business candidates, highly touted. spend their own money. they both were defeated rather handily because of the hispanic vote. we saw that same dynamic play out in nevada. so the warning signs are there for both parties. i'm sure the strategists are going through all the messaging. but instead of messaging, i'd like to see some legislative and some covering. >> how about freshing. >> yes. wouldn't that be nice. >> and emily, how do, politically speaking, republicans broaden their appeal if their appeal right now is to the less educated, less diverse population? >> this is really tricky. i mean expanding one's base can be really difficult because as you appeal to folks that are already in your target base, you might lose folks that you -- on the edges. i mean it's hard for the -- it's

going to be difficult for the republican party to thread the needle of appealing to minorities while also retaining that sort of middle america white blue collar vote. i think eleanor is right they have to do this through legislation. it can't be done necessarily with messaging. i think republicans have to show commitment to minorities through the legislation they support. i think that -- you know, legislation like immigration, it's going to be really important on that. so it's not just about how you spin this. it's about what you're doing here in washington. >> okay. emily, eleanor, i don't know what you're doing. talking to me. we'll see you then. >> confusion about the pope's new book and what he wrote about the use of the condom. what did he mean? plus the push for the new plan to save the wild tiger. [ j. weissman ] it was 1975.

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at keller.edu. ja i'm alex witt. a major pacific storm is expected to continue slamming the west coast today providing rain and high-elle vags snow from california to the southwest. more than a foot of snow will fall in the sierra nevada. groups are meeting in russia to discuss ways to revive the world's tiger population. the world life fund says only about 3,200 remain. there were about 100,000 a century go. harper collins sued the gawker after publishing images last week from palins book before it's released this week. al qaeda in yemen is making new threats. it says attacks it has in the

works will be small scale and cheap but they're still going to be disruptive and terrifying. the group is bragging it omt spent 4 rkds $200 on the failed cargo plane bomb last month. they posted this statement online, quote, it is such a good bargain for us to spread fear amongst the enemy and keep him on his toes in exchange for a few months of work and a few thousand bucks. dan gray's a military strategist and vice president of the conservative think tank at the lexington institute. dan, good morning. >> good morning. >> it's really annoying hearing what they say about that. actually they've been successful thus far. if it's really 4, $200 they put into it they have continue neblts of people thinking about it and the president of the united states reacting to it. >> then you have the christmas bomber who has caused all kinds of problems for the tsa and travelers worldwide. so they've gotten sophisticated. it used to be they wanted to do the big bomb like they did on

9/11. now they're playing to our psychology by talking about what they call the cost exchange ratio. how much it costs them to do it versus how much it costs us. >> earlier we heard from ali arouzi who's reporting on north korea's nuclear construction, the new stuff out there. in terms of that, what are the implications for the u.s.? >> well, the implication is now we're caught between a rock and a hard place. on the one hand we can't allow them to go forward with a nuclear program. secondly, we don't really have a good way to work on negotiations to get them to stop, and so it looks like we may be in another one of those continuous cycles. they do something bad, we try and fix it, they do another thing bad, et cetera, et cetera. >> how much of a threat is north korea really, or do we really know? >> well, look. this is a regime that decided

because of changes in their politics domestically to sink a south korean warship. that's how violent and unpredictable they are. this is a nuclear arms state that engages in violence. at some point the real fear is gaining something they can't walk back from. they do something we can't ignore and the end result will be a conflict on that peninsula. >> let's talk about nato leaders, dan, because that was all the talk yesterday. they say they're aiming to have afghans in control by 2014. is that goal realistic? >> it's really hard to know. we're almost starting from scratch in terms of training the afghan military police. we're just hiring the contractors. they're just organizing the bases to do training. we know for iraq it takes years. you name it. then you have to train an officer. or ministry of interior for the police. this is clearly a multi-year

problem. >> okay. on the heels of talking about the nuclear developments with north korea, the nuclear weapons were also a top issue at the nato summit and the rush an pret medvedev signed a reductions treaty o y or start, and the republicans don't want to ratify it. what's the hold-up? >> the republicans aren't sure the president gave up too much. they're not sure there wasn't a side deal on missile defense to limit it in some way. and the big thing is they want to be guaranteed that the u.s. nuclear weapons complex, that is for the warheads but also for the missiles, the bombers, the submarines, is going to get the modernization money it needs before they sign the treaty. >> if we don't ratify the relations how is that? >> it isn't a big deal. we're releasing very few weapons

really. they could reduce more. but in terms of the politics, so-called reset that the administration wanted to have with russia this could be a major setback. if we're talking a delay of a couple of months but it gets signed, it's not a big deal. >> thanks so much. our world view this morning begins in new zealand where families are still awaiting word about the 29 trapped coal miners. they remain mission after two days of an underground explosion. today they were given a tour to better understand the situation. dangerous gases are preventing rescue crews from getting close to the mine. in china, rescue workers trapped 59 miles beneath the sea have been rescued. the workers have been trapped since thursday after an accident on an offshore construction flat form. and in lima, they announced that yale has agreed to return

inca artifacts. they've been the subject of a bitter dispute for years. >> well, controversy and confusion over the reports about the pope's new book. the disputed section of the book surrounds the use of condoms and whether comments made by the pontiff in any way suggests the church has shifted ilts stance on them. the highly anticipated release is this tuesday. the book is called "light of the world:the pope, the church, and the sign of the times." george, good morning. nice to see you. >> good morning, alex. nice to see you. >> i want to talk about the initial reports here. what they said and what is on the topic of con dumms. >> alex there's been an awful lot of misleading an false reports on this. let me try to illustrate what the pope actually said by using an analogy with a perhaps less

volatile set of circumstances. imagine you've about got a bank robber who habitually uses a loaded gun to stage hold-ups. the bank robber then decided somebody might hurt so i'm going to use an unloaded gun to stage a hold-up so no one is shot in the process of this. that's still a bad thing the bank robber is doing but he might be showing some glimmer of moral insight that you could then hope he would build on to come to a different levt of life. the catholic church is not suggesting and the pope is not suggesting that bank robbers should use unloaded guns to rob banks, and the church and the pope aren't suggesting that the church ought to give unloaded guns to bank robbers to make it more safe. i think that's the analogy that bring this home in a way that illustrates a very technical

point of what philosophers would call subjective intention that the pope was trying to make in this book, which, by the way, is full of all sorts of interesting stuff that i'm afraid isn't going to get much attention given this misleading reporting and the absolute insistence of some media sources -- not us, happily -- that condoms are at the center of reality for the catholic church. >> all right, george. if only we had more time to talk at lent on a sunday morning about that, but given this is a topic i want to read an excerpt in which the pontiff talks about it in which he says the church of course does not regard it as a real or moral slulgs but in this or that case, there can be nonetheless in the intention of reducing the risk of infection, a first step in a movement toward a different way, a more human way of living sexuality. according to the pope, is there any situation in which a condom is justified? >> the pope is saying that if

someone is going to rob a bank with a gun, it's better that the gun be unloaded. but, no, he's not trying to justify condom use any more than he's trying to justify male prostitution, which is the circumstance he uses to illustrate this point in his book. >> okay. i'm going go back to the gun and unloaded. meaning what specifically? i don't want to talk in analogy. does the pope believe that there are reasons to use condoms? certain situations? >> no, the pope does not believe male prostitution is a good thing and the pope is not trying to justify the use of condoms period. >> how about for the prevention of the spread of aids? i know that on that tour back in 2000 # the president was there in africa. there was much coverage on that and as you've rightly pointed out, africa and the aids problem is largely dealt with by the catholic church. they're really on the front

lines there. what about those instances? >> i think what the pope discusses in the book is the program in uganda which stresses abstinence and fidelity as the way to drive down the incidence of aids in africa and indeed elsewhere, and right after that flap during the pope's trip to africa, a harvard demog gra fehr, ted green, published a very interesting essay in "the washington post" page in which against the tide of public opinion throughout the world he said, hey, if you look at the empirical data here, what looks at what really works in terms of the horrible disease and driving down the incidence, the pope is right. what works is abstinence and fidelity within a monogamous marriage. >> based on what you're saying there's no change in the stance on the church in terms of condom use. >> no, there's no change at all

because this is not a policy like a tax rate. this is a settled moral judgment that the church has come to over centuries, and it's not going to change. >> okay. george weigel, author of "witness to hope." thanks, george. >> thanks, alex. boycotting body scanners. we're going to hear from a group of organizers on this, the busiest travel week of the year. ♪ [ man ] i thought our family business would always be boots. until one day, my daughter showed me a designer handbag. and like that, we had a new side to our business.

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they're frustrated an fed up, opponents of the new controversial pat-downs and body scanners. they plan to protest this wednesday, the very busy day before thanksgiving and they're calling it national opt out day. let's get the details from co-founder of wewon'tfly.com. good morning, james. >> good morning. >> what exactly is this national opt-out day? >> it's a grassroots response to the new abusive procedures that is going on in the airports. the tsa is conducting radiation

strip searches and inappropriate gropings, so national opt-out day is an opportunity to send a strong message to the industry that we won't be abused for purchasing their services. we suggest that people opt out by the radiation and the groping by not flying. for those that must fly, we ask them to consider opting out of the radiation. ite going to be better for your health, and if enough people do it we can bog down their baloney security theater. they just don't have the man pour to put their hands in everyone's pans. >> here's the part of this. if you're telling people not to fly, people presumably who's not bought their tickets, who's going to win? they're lose their money. it will make it less easier on a day before thanksgiving in terms of getting through security. who's really going to win here? >> well, many airlines are

offering refunds. at least i know american airlines did so in the case of mr. tiner who didn't want to be abused. they must accommodate passengers that don't want to be groped or radiated. >> okay. did you have a bad experience personally. is that part of what is fueling your fire? >> no, but when i heard these scanners and procedures were coming to the airport grenier me and i wanted to do something to make sure i would never be in a position where these procedure woulsd be subjected on my family. >> they say this. on the eve of a major national holiday and less than one year after ail chaika.ca's failed attack last christmas day it is irresponsibility for a group grooup to suggest travelers out out. is it irresponsible?

>> what's irresponsible is tsa has failed to warn people about the radiation dangers and privacy dangers about their procedures. it has not to do with security. it's security they tore. even john micah who helped create the tsa is calling it a big kabuki dance. this is not about security. it's about fake security. they've tried these measures in other countries. it was tested in israel where they have real serious threats. it was proofrp to be unreliable and unable to detect the kind of explosives that they're worry about. >> you're calling tsa irresponsible. is your call for people to not go through security measures irresponsible? >> what i'm suggesting is people protect themselves and their families by avoiding the radiation and gropings. this under any circumstances would be considering sexual assault. they're putting their hands between people's legs. they're pressing between genitals, feeling around

people's breasts. it's just plain wrong and the american people are rising up against it. >> okay. and i shall say with regard to removing prosthetics, we're asking about a woman had had to remove her prosthetic devices. are you saying if it weren't for 9/11 people wouldn't be opposed? >> i think it's important to know that these new screening methods are not improving security. we need to eliminate the false sense of security and bring in common sen security. there's a million ways we can be safer that don't involve nude photography of our children and groping our grandmas. >> common sense security like what? what would your group advocate? >> i'm not a security expert but we do have experts on wewon'tfly.com. there are a lot of ideas out there. i think they need to look at what they're doing in other

countries like israel. >> okay. james babb, co-author of wewo t wewon'tfly. our friends at "saturday night live" couldn't help to beg to dif were that notion. >> spending time with a tsa agent could be easier. simply book a flight departing from any american airport. you'll be pulled aside by a tsa agent, and that's when the fun begins. and you never know who your agent will be. >> it could be me. >> or me. >> or even me. >> but it's probably going to be us. take off your damn shoes. >> the tsa. it's our business to touch you. >> it's probably going to be me. that's good. on the heels of that, let's get to today's tech headlines.

we're getting the reports of a second generation ipad and a facebook myspace mash-up that allows facebook users to access myspace. i'm joined by you who were following along with me. >> it's hysterical. >> first ipad 2. the computer world says it's on its way. >> i've got to say apple must love the fact that right before the holidays when i think they're hoping lots of people will buy ipads. here comes a rumor big improvements are coming in four months. there are reports that apple has upped production or has upped its orders of components. they're saying it will be thinner and lighter as usually happens. also probably a front-facing camera which would enable that face time video chap that we're seeing on the iphone four and on

the mac. >> if you own an ipad that you say got to shelf this one and go out and get another one? >> i'm always been an advocate of waiting till the second version when it is a completely new product. i would ride it out in first place, but i think if you have an ipad, the original, and you really see a reason to have a cam are on it -- i think the camera t camera is one of the things that people said -- expressed really that they thought was missing from the original ipad. so with the second generation -- you know, if you're someone who is doing video chat over wi-fi or really wants that feature, there are also reports it's going to have a usb connector cable. if you think something's missing from your ipad, yeah, maybe go ahead and upgrade. i would not expect that there's going to be a big price drop with the release of the second one. i would assume as they have done with the iphone, they may keep

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harry potter and the deathly hallows part 1 is conjuring up big numbers at the box numbers but let's take a look. >> wow. we're identical. >> wow. join meg live now, amy palmer, one of a kind, i might add for "

"intouch weekly." >> we're hear 1g 25 to $135 million. >> wow. >> fifth biggest opening ever. the best harry potter opening. we also continue to see the numbers rise because it's released worldwide. so it's huge. >> absolutely huge. what about this installment. how much different is it from the past films. it just appears darker. >> it is. it's the finale. this is where we see everything comes to a head and potter confronts valdy mir. you're going to expect things. >> it's counterprogramming. if you don't want to see harry potter you can go see this movie. it's classic russell crowe. people love the movie but everybody's in the theater for

potter. >> what about the critics? >> they're saying it's classic crowe but there are holes in the story. maybe this is raental. >> i think they'll come in second, but, you know, not that much. probably under $10 million. >> you know, holiday films, really quick. which one are you waiting for? >> burlesque. i'm excited to see cher. it's her first film in 11 years? she actually looks terrific. >> she's amazing. she's incredible. such a role model. >> you see christina aguilera in that one too. thank you. >> thank you, alex. a new report shows one country could be going nuclear in a bugger want than previously thought. does it pose a danger to the u.s. for over eight years, helping them build a strong dealer network. bringing music to people... i like that. ♪

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