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patdown if you are wry, americans sound off. how will the beefed up security affect the upcoming thanksgiving holiday travel rush? here we go again, north korea is hiding its nuclear ambitions once again that what is the clandestine communist country up to now? in a squeeze, americans face another gift-giving season on a tight budget. more bargain hunting to make it bountiful for you. seventh heaven, harry potter fans flock to the thesors to see the boy wizard, does live up to the previous six? i'm alex witt, welcome to msnbc sunday. 11 a.m. in the east, 8 a.m. out west. new reaction from the white house on an alarming story out of north korea. a new report says the communist regime has secretly built a new nuclear facility to enrich uranium. mike viqueira is live at the white house. good sunday morning, mike. >> morning, alex. >> this has to have the administration concerned, if not talking about it are they saying anything?

>> absolutely. we have reaction from a senior administration official as well as the nation's top military officer. this apparently is a stunning revelation, here is the backstory, alex a top to ac testimony knick this country, individual know what is he is talking about, stanford university now, but used to run the los alamos nuclear facility out west, he was let into north korea to have a look at a uranium enrichment facility within north korea, an underground facility. what he said he saw was stunning, far beyond development and scale beyond anything anybody expected in north korea in terms of uranium enrichment. everybody knew that north korea had a reactor capable of plutonium enrichment this is larger, more different and said to be much more dangerous. north korea obviously another provocative act intentionally letting everybody know exactly what is going on. the u.s. has reacted by, in part, sending their special envoy to the region, steven boss worth just landing in seoul, south korea to consult with the

allies there. but you mentioned mike mullin, the admiral who is of course, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. here is a little bit more of what he had to say on this very volatile topic. >> it confirms or validates the concern we have had for years their enriching uranium, which they denied routinely. all of this is consistent with belligerent behavior and the kind of instability creation in a part of the world that is very dangerous. >> and of course, alex there is a pattern of this kind of behavior from north korea, on again, off again in terms of their nuclear program. many people think they use this carrot and stick approach to get what they want out of the west, not getting what they want they start up their nuclear program again. here is more he reaction from a senior administration official today. north korea's claim to have a uranium enrichment program and if true, contradict it's own

pledges and commitments. there are these six-party talks, alex, on again, south korea, japan, china, russia, the united states, they are not functioning right now. this is a major concern, a stunning development here from north korea, has a lot of people on edge in washington. >> understandably so, mike viqueira, thank you for that. new reaction growinging an they are morning to the controversial security measures taking place at airports across the country. nbc michelle franzen has details. good morning. >> reporter: one of the busiest travel weeks of the year and plan proceed test does make things even more stressful nan usual. 1.6 million people expected to fly this week, 400,000 more than last year. passengers who are fed up over the new security measures are turning to the internet and organizing a boycott for wednesday, the day before thanksgiving travel. protestors calling on air travellers to refuse to go through the full body scanners and stead, on the opt for than

hansed patdown, the idea, slow down security lines and overwhelm tsa agents who perform those patdowns. that could cause delays at dozens of major airports and those major hubs including new york, miami, atlanta, chicago, dallas and l.a. if you are not flying through those airports, delay does cause a ripple effect across the country. passengers remain divided over these new techniques. >> is a silly, ridiculous waste of time. >> think entire process is a waste. >> if it keeps us safe, i'm not too worried about it. >> and despite the controversy, the obama administration is backing the procedures. new comments just this morning, secretary of state hillary clinton address the issue on nbc's "meet the press." >> i am absolutely confident that our security experts are going to keep trying to get it better and less intrusive and more precise but at the same time, we want people to travel safely. >> but just this weekend work the head of the tsa also says

those technique, alex, will remain in effect. >> yeah exfrom what i understand it is not just the passengers that are venting there are also tsa officials, michelle, expressing frustration with all these proceed zblunchts uncomfortable for the people and they have turned to the internet to voice their opinions as well. one site claims to post the views of it. sa workers and screeners. the posts are anonymous but say the workers and screeners don't like the new body scanners and enhanced patdowns. tsa officials say their internal polls show about 80% of traveling public supports the increased security. and even with that planned protest on wednesday, tsa officials air is they are predicting a smooth holiday travel season. >> fingers crossed, here's hoping, michelle franzen, thank you so much. keep it here on msnbc sunday, coming up in a bit i will talk with a woman who says her tsa patdown went way too far and her allegations are quite shocking. you are going to find out what she says happened later on this hour. the al qaeda branch in yemen says the plot to blow up two u.s. cargo planes with mail

bombs was simple and cost very little to do the group released a new issues of the online english-language magazine this weekend and says carrying out the plot last month cost only $4200. ed two mail bombs were made of ink cart originals, pack with explosives and discovered in england and dubai in cargo planes. they were from yemen and addressed to chicago-area synagogues. authorities in germany are looking for two suspected suicide bombers in germajegermg. they are believed to be planning a tack in the german capital the coming weeks. the german newspaper reports that al qaeda was planning an attack next year on the parliament building in berlin but the head of germany's federal police office calls that highly speculative. first time, president obama says he wants u.s. troops to be done with major combat by the end of 2014 but not locking the u.s. into that time line.

>> it is hard to anticipate exactly what is going to be necessary to keep the american people safe as of 2014 i will make the determination when i get there. >> the president made that remark at the end of the nato summit in lisbon, portugal. major troop reductions won't take place until it is clear the afghans can, indeed, handle their own security. back here at home, snow will pound western states today, had heavy accumulation and poor visibility caused traffic trouble near salt lake city. utah will continue to see snowfall throughout date and into the night. for the complete national forecoast, let's go to alex wallace at the weather channel. >> good sunday to you, not necessarily too good for us here in parts of the west, dealing with more in the way of that snow piling on in. lake tahoe, find one to two feet, more in addition to what

we have seep, we will follow the storm system, impacting us through sunday of, tracking eastward, dry skies, mild conditions for us setting up in parts of the southeast. now, let's begin in toward ours monday, northward it is cold, coldest air of the season, looking for snow. once we move to our tuesday, another system into the west, another bout with more rain and snow in that area, dealing with rain now pressing the way into parts of the eastful thanksgiving eve, northeast dries out, stick with the rain across parts of the south. good news for northeast, texas, turkey day on thursday, watching that rain spread back into the northeast, heads up heading out for plans turkey day, dealing with rain, western areas were dry but quite chillly. >> thank you, alex wallace. sarah palin has yet another new book out this weekend, bound to be a best seller but is she

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an internet blog is no longer linking users to leaked pages of sarah pail answers new book a new york judge issued a temporary restraining order against the website, gawker. palin's publisher is suing for copyright infringement after the site published images and text from the book. another hearing is scheduled this later this month. palin's book hits the shelves on tuesday. let's go become to the massive backlash against the airport patdowns as we head into one of the busiest travel week wes of the year. the tsa says it expects smooth

sailing as thanksgiving travelers line to be questioned, x-rayed or more but many say they have no idea what they are in for at the airport a new poll by the consumer travel alliance shows half of americans, 56%, say they are more confuse and ever about the tsa's new rules. 41% say just as confused as before, only 3% say they are less confused. that was an introduction for steve forbes, chairman and ceo of forbes inc., talk about a whole bunch of things. >> good to be with you, alex. >> on this front, you travel a lot. at what point do you think the need for security trumps what could be an invasion of privacy? >> this is the first time that i have been traveling that really reacted badly to this i can. >> you did? >> oh, yeah, because things that normally would go through the x-ray machine ticks this thing off. you put a kleenex in your pocket, credit card or something it tick it is off. i have been through several of these shakedowns. >> really? now, if you had to do the patdowns and/or the x-ray

screening, the enhanced screening? >> the enhanced screening is easier than getting the patdown, you have a napkin or forgot to take a dime out of your pocket. >> are you kidding? >> no, that's what's so crazy about it things that never set off the x-ray machine, this thing set it is off, pull you out, give you the pat down. when they put all of these in, huge delays. >> have you been through the scanning machine and then pat down? >> you go on the scanning machine, i have something in my pocket -- they say tavging out, normally thought it belts and anything on your body other than immediate clothes sets the things off and out you go. >> annoying that is is, to balance this out with knowing that you are getting on a plane that is safe and you will get to your destination okay, how do you react to that? >> i think if they want these airports to truly work this is

going to cause, as i say, put all these machines in massive delays, why not take a step back and say if you are starting the system all over again, how would you do it? would you continue to do liquids thing? the israelis don't do it i think we should consult with the israelis do profiling not racial profile bug lists of people you don't want on any of these planes and start doing some of that work that other countries do so you don't have these massive things unfortunately, they react. somebody puts in underwear, got to do that shoes, got to do that liquids, got to do that, again, step back, had to do it over again is this the best technology? i'm not sure this is the best technology to detect whether there is something really there, other side eames to be one step ahead. we never anticipated these things like the underwear bomber and like. >> steve, let's switch up a bit and talk taxes shall as you well new york the bush tax cuts set to expire at the end of this year, republicans talking about balancing the budget but want to keep taxes for the wealthiest 2% cut. your thoughts on that and where

you think this is going. >> i think i'm sorry they are not going to do it in the lame duck session but early next year there will be an extensions of all of those tax cuts of 2003 and actually a good thing 'cause you want capital creation, you want people to be able to keep more of what they earn, 'cause the key thing is you're never going to get -- dig ourselves out of this hole unless you get this economy become on track again. the massive -- prospects of massive tax increases is hurting the economy. >> look, republicans are talking about the need to balance the budget. how do you do that if you reduce the tax income? >> the assumption always is that increase taxes, going to get commensurate amount of revenue, experience shows you increase tax, you hurt the economy and end up doing more harm than good. if you reduce the tax burden and start reining in the taxes, like the governor of new jersey, you dig yourselves out. also do entitlement reform. >> do you still subscribe to your flat tax theory? i remember you had --

>> oh, more than -- >> were that to be implemented works that solve a lot of the problems? >> it would solve a huge amount of problems and i think we are going to do it. already starting to see movement toward it is. jerry brown of california is in favor of the flat tax, a growing number of democrats want massive tax simplification, having a single rate generous exemptions, family of four no federal income tax on your first $46,000 of income what that would do to the economy, low rate simplicity. last year, we spent, the irs said this equivalent of 7.5 billion hours filling out tax forms oh give lent, alex, of 3 million full-time jobs. for what purpose? >> have to have you back and talk about the taxes that is going to be certainly a hot button issue right now. is it possible, steve, on the heels of the election results earlier that month that republicans are misinterpreting them? a sense there is going to be a heck of a lot of gridlock coming up, in order, nothing getting done. do you think that is what americans elected the

republicans to do? >> i think the electorate was sending a notice to the white house, your policy wes don't like, the binge spending, probe foundly upsaturday a lot of people. the massive tax increases that are coming in with the health care bill, not to mention the expiration of 2003 tax cuts, people don't like. in terms of health care there are going to be major changes made. that is when, alex, i think the real battle is going to be about do you allow more free enterprise in health care, start by getting rid of this 1099 provision. do you realize in two years, every business has to file a 1099 form in the irs for every single thing or transaction they do above $600 you buy a pc now going to have to file a form with the irs? this is insane. >> that sounds like a logistical nightmare. >> on the tax thing, i think a lot of democrats, 21 democrat senators are running for re-election in 2012, a lot go along with extending the cuts, get it off the table, do it for two years, the next elections, the real battle on health care

and start with the 1099 and going to go through the whole bill. >> i want to ask you about sarah palin, from your perspective as having run for president of the united states. she has this new become out this week and were she to go for it in 2012, do you think -- what is your take on her running for it? think she will do it? do you think she has what it takes to do it? >> she certainly has the -- what it takes to run a campaign. i mean, what she has done since she has resigned as governor is amazing, put aside what you think of her. the last election cycle, she was the only endorsement that made a significant difference to a candidate. when she would go on a primary and lay her hands on a candidate that candidate overnight became an incredible candidate. that was phenomenal power that she has done. whether she des to go all the way and run for the presidency, she is already a national power. i will give you one other example. a couple weeks ago, she gave a speech, i don't know how it came about of all things, federal reserve and monetary policy, made the weak dollar an issue

that republicans are now picking up and beating up on the federal reserve for trashing the dollar. that's extraordinary. so, again, put aside your feelings about her, she is becoming a major political figure. >> that is absolutely undeniable, however is she qualified to be president? >> the voters will decide that because on paper, she is actually had some more experience than our current occupant of the white house and people are going to ask, though exwhy did you leave the governorship those kind of hard questions and she is going to have to answer them earthquake the voters will make that decision and i think you're going to see though amazingly about 2012, see at least 20 candidates i know of already are seriously looking that the thing, the first time in my memory there has been no real front-runner no "my turn" candidate in the republican party. >> do you have someone you are thinking about endorsing at this point? >> i'm looking over the field. i don't. i'm looking at people like governor daniels of indian, governor barbour and others, people that have done credible jobs, our own governor of new

jersey, chris christie, a few months, done amazing things in a blue state. yeah there is some good ones out there, we will see who emerges. >> we will indeed. and then see your opinions of t thank you so much, steve forbes. happy thanksgiving. >> you, too. thank you. as americans consider how much to spend on holiday gifts, we will provide you some savvy shopping advice in the search for savings, coming up next on msnbc sunday. [ male announcer ] for fastidious librarian emily skinner, each day was fueled by thorough preparation for events to come. well somewhere along the way, emily went right on living. but you see, with the help of her raymond james financial advisor, she had planned for every eventuality. which meant she continued to have the means to live on... even at the ripe old age of 187. life well planned. see what a raymond james advisor can do for you.

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despite tough economic times, people expected to spend a wee bit more on gift giving. according to the national retail federation, americans will spend on average about $688 this year, about $7 more and they will spend the most on electronic gadgets. so, after you stuff your face on

thanksgiving, the last thing you probably think about is shopping but come black friday, thousands of folks will be flocking to the malls. retailers are promising big deals, too, but are they worth your time in line and online? joining us again, consumer adviser la toya drake. thank you very much again for being here. >> hi. >> what are some of the big deals people expect to be out there chasing on friday? >> electronics, electronics, electronics. this year big for e readers, not just the ipad, sony e-reader for $99 at walmart. best buy, $99 and amazon dropped the kindle to $99 as well. >> flat screen tvs as well? >> manufacturers have a lot of excess inventory, you will see those bargain basement prices for lcd and hdtvs. >> trying to clear things out? >> they overestimated. so there is a lot less -- you will see target with like a 40-inch for $298, walmart a 32-inch for 198, really, really

cheap prices get in line early enough and act. >> what is interesting, you have stores like toys are united states and sears open on thanksgiving day for the first time. what is the logic behind that and do you really think that people are going to go out and shop on the holiday? >> yeah they probably will. here is what happened last year we saw over $300 million spent on thanksgiving day, that was online. so retailers know there is money willing to be spent, people willing to spend money. you will see them opening up the doors if you are not, waiting on a turkey to cook or get away from your family, you have a police to go shop on thanksgiving day. >> what about the cybermonday? you just mentioned online, that is always huge s that typically going to be huge again or is that now being disbursed? >> going to be huge but still want to see the foot traffic, not only black friday but the saturday after thanksgiving, seeinging? new this year, american express has small business saturdays, giving you $25 if you use your card at a local business. so it is not just the foot traffic we want to see on black friday but the saturday following and a lot of money spent online on saturday. >> i'm sure you have seen all

the sales to out even now. it has been -- they have been going on a good, solid week or so things seem to be coming earlier and earlier, is thanksgiving going to become a black friday, you think? >> you are seeing it move up earlier every year, we call this the christmas creep and that is because retailers are trying to get a handle on what people are buying. you will see the deals earlier and earlier and earlier and you see people wanting to spend the money, looking what the they spent online on thanksgiving that is you why see those special deals roll out on thanksgiving day, see thanksgiving day-only specials, separate from what you are going to see on black friday. >> there one door buster deal caught your attention and you think, okay this is going to be the thing? >> you know what always walmart with their amazing, amazing bargain basement deals looking at those things, the tvs, laptops under $200. >> laptops for -- >> walmart has an e-machine that is $200, best buy also has a laptop that is going to be under $400, a sony laptop, those are the thing fuss waited all year to purchase this is the time to actually maybe get up and go

brave the crowds on black friday. >> yeah that is a deal. okay. la toya drake, thank you so much. happy thanksgiving, happy shopping. >> thanks, same to you. it was an airport patdown that one with woman will never forget. she will talk to us all about it next on msnbc sunday.

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jeefrms an offshore construction worker had had been trapped inside a pipe underwater for hours is now freed. and only 46% of people know that the republicans regained control of the house of representatives. those are your fast five headlines. the head of the tsa is responding to critics of the new body scanners and enhanced patdowns at airports. many air travellers who have been through the process stay is too intrusive, some likening the patdowns to sexual assault. john pistole addressed those comes on the today he show. >> we are trying to deal with each person, with dignity and respect and that is the goal while we provide the best possible security, recognizing that it is difficult to have the ultimate security and privacy blended in a precise manner. we know that the threats are real and the stakes are high. >> a loosely organized internet protest is targeting the new

security procedures. groups are asking air travelers to opt-out of the full body scans on wednesday with and instead, insist on patdowns to slow down lines and cause a travel mess at airports. one air traveler who is upset about the enhanced patdowns joins me now live from providence, rhode island. marlene mccarthy is a cancer survivor and says a tsa official crossed line when she went through security. marlene, good morning, thank you for being here. tell us what happened to you. >> good morning. well, actually, i went through the body scanner and the agent approached the scanner and said you will very to wait a few minutes and then she said, step here, which was like three baby steps away from the scanner, in full view. i immediately said to her, did it show something in this area? and she said yes. and i said i wear a breast prosthesis. she then took her two hands put one on the top of the object, one on the bottom. she moved the prosthesis up and

down, left and right and then said, okay, you can go. she certainly was pleasant, she wasn't inappropriate in that way but i did feel very violated and looking to the right, seeing people look, looking to the left, seeing people watch with, i was very uncomfortable and humiliated. >> i can about imagine. we should say we have reached out to the tsa and talked about this particular incident, reviewing the matter, and take appropriate action if necessary. on the heels of that you went over to the side and went to a supervisor and explained what had happened and the supervisor's response is most interesting because she said, "we have never even had that discussion and i do the training for the tsa employees here following the standard manual provided." she says she will bring it up at the next meaning, the issue of sensitivity, working with somebody with a prosthesis. has anyone else gotten back to you on that? >> no one has gotten become to me and i also asked if there was a way to make a formal complaint or write up the incident and she

said, no, we don't have paperwork for that. >> i understand that you want to take matters into your own hands and that you have a plan, marlene, the next time tough go through an airport screen. what were you going to do? you are going to take the embarrassment off of you, right? >> well, i really do plan to do that. i will continue -- i have had three -- travel plans three times since then and i have looked for the line that did not have the full body scanner and successfully went through that. you know, there's a real uprising. we have about 3 million women with breast cancer in the united states and we are all traveling. so, what is our option? to either not wear the prosthesis or to put the prosthesis in the gray buck set in i mean, please it is really humiliating. >> that is what you have said you are tempted to do look it is not going to be me humiliated, you are going to embarrass the people around you and those tsa screeners themselves. >> right.

i did make that comment and certainly not my intent to embarrass people but my intent to raise awareness that we have to look at a better method of screening. >> how about though thus farther reasoning for these types of screening, marlene, do you see what is behind it? are you in agreement with that, given what happened with the christmas day attempted bombing and those things that happened in cube be by and england? >>. >> absolutely. i want to fly safely. my children fly for business, i want them to fly safely but i do think we could use our resources to find a more comprehensive screening method. i would think if the mines of power would look at son nothingraphy technology as well as the metal wand, we could come one with something that would identify metal objects as well as liquids and not have the to invad the privacy. >> you bring up the son nothingraphy technology. did they indicate to you, marlene that they were unable to read you were wearing a prosthesis on that body scan,

that they had to really look at that they couldn't figure out what it was? >> i was told it showed up as a foreign object and when i explained what it was, as i say the agent just cupped it, top and bottom and moved it. >> hmm. and was actually nice about doing t did you get a sense the tsa agent was a little embarrassed for you or for herself? >> no not really. i actually got the sense that this was not unfamiliar to her. again, the agents were very pleasant. there was no inappropriate behavior on their approach to me. it was just the method of scanning and i also think that, you know -- i'm sorry. government right ahead. >> i was just gonna say, we have this incredible body scanning technology. why don't we just put that over the mountains of afghanistan and bring our troops home sooner than 2014? >> there san idea right there mar mean lean mccarthy, thank you for sharing your story, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. there is some controversy

today around comments made by the pope at in a new book. the pontiff says a male prostitute's choice to use a condom to prevent spreading a disease could be a good moral decision. some reports says the pope is just fig the use of condoms, earlier i spoke with nbc news analyst george weigle who wrote the forward to that new book, he said the pope's stance has not changed. >> the pope is saying that if someone is going to rob a bank with a gun, it's better than the gun be unloaded. but no not trying to justify condom use anymore than he is trying to justify male prostitution, which is the circumstance he uses to illustrate this point in his book. >> the new book is called "light of the world" and will be released this tuesday. sarah palin's news book will hit the shelves also tuesday, but already it is sparking a sharp debit. several pages were leaked on the internet n one pass arrange the former governor takes a shot at

first lady michelle obama in which palin writes, "she said during the 2008 campaign that she had never felt proud of her country until her husband started winning elections n retrospect, i guess this had shouldn't surprise us since both of them spent almost two decades in the pews of reverend jeremiah wright's church listening to his rants against america and white people." sherry jack kobe business is a strategist and contributor to the hill and with us, edward wycoff williams, a contributor to the grio.com. good morning to you. that passage there, sherry what is your take? >> maybe people agreed her at the time in regard to the obamas and church they go to. i have to say that i don't think that the woman who is vice presidential nominee should be going after the woman -- the would-be first lady this is would be eat give leapt of joe biden taking swipes at cindy mccain and i think we all think it might be okay because they are both women. as woman, i have a problem with it i think the position is more important.

so whether you agree or sort of agree or don't agree with what sarah palin was saying it is a little bit strange somebody running for vice president would go after the wife of the presidential nominee. why is she writing it? >> it is because she is a sad, selfish opportunist. i'm glad cheri was measured on this point. 2 it is important to understand

who sarah palin is. a woman who is not that well educated, who is not qualified to be president who went to five universities to get one degree. she is critiquing michelle obama, who is not, as cheri said the would-be first lady, she is the first lady. i think that's important to understand that sarah palin, though she fancies herself to be president of the united states is not president of the united states and she is not even on the level of other women who have aspired to that hillary clinton, madeleine albright, condoleezza rice, she could not even hold her own in a room with any of them. she she can hardly complete a sentence correctly so i think it is important to put her in her place and understand who we are dealing with. >> cheri, on the heels of that, sarah palin believe she is could beat president obama in 2012. many political observers will agree she might win a primary, indeed, but a general election would be a much tougher test. what are your thoughts on that? >> she is an enormously

influential woman. she he has been a governor. she was on the -- you know, ran as vice president, so she definitely has the credibility, if you watched her when she was governor, this is not a dumb woman. i do wish she would concentrate on focusing more on that's expect of what she has to offer but the celebrity money making aspect was presented to her so that is a legitimate choice as well. i don't know if it is necessarily compatible with running for president but it certainly is compatible with having a voice and doing a lot for her family so i don't think she is stupid and i think this had thank she certainly could run for president or be influential in other ways but a but she is going to have to kind of make that decision sort of what she wants to be and i think we sort of see that with the reality shows and the books and more power to her, good for her. i wish i could make that kind of money. >> edward, no other republican today generate the same kind of buzz as sarah palin. even vice president joe biden warns against underestimating her. do you think democrats should take notice? >> i think they should.

i think she is dangerous. i think she is dangerous for the country. and to that end, democrats need to be organized. they need to be rallying their base. they need to continue to grow their base and need to take her seriously, not necessarily as a presidential candidate but as a deviant effective celeb by tant of the republican party. she is no different than the people we see on the e. channel and bravo. >> i don't think that is fair. this woman is not a serious public figure. >> i think you are going a little bit too far in that regard. she is very serious. >> cheri, you are the one who said she is making a lot of money and it is admirable. >> more experience than barack obama did before he became president. >> she dash not have more experience than barack obama. >> well, actually, yeah, she

did. that is up to the american people to decide. >> and they decided in 2008. >> i think she definitely has something to offer. >> how do you guys really feel? all right, thank you very much, sherry jack kobe bus and edward wycoff williams. in suburban atlanta, police on the lookout for the so-called hungry burglar. he has broken into a number of homes and disabled alarm systems and once inside, rummages through the kitchen, finds something good and in some cases cooks. he leaves empty handed though on a full stomach in most case. no kidding. you are watching msnbc sunday. [h ] and then, in one blinding blink of an eye, their tree had given its last. but with their raymond james financial advisor, they had prepared for even the unthinkable. ♪ and they danced. see what a raymond james advisor can do for you.

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on one critic who calls the deathly hallows deathly dull and says the twilight series is better. we will talk to the guy behind those comments and in the crosshairs of many. a senior writer with "newsweek." good morning. >> good morning with. >> why the movie is dull? >> i think this last movie, they decided to break this last movie up into two parts from thehours. there's another 2 1/2-hour movie coming out in the summer. it's very slow. the acting isn't that good. and not a lot happens. >> okay. so you don't think the harry potter movie overall is as good as the "twilight" books? >> the "twilight," especially the last two have been very fun. the performances have been great. are you team edward? team jacob? you can go, enjoy the movies, and they don't take themselves to seriously. >> yeah, my daughter has a team edward t-shirt that she sleeps in. >> so do i. >> don't go there. what about the critics, though? the harry potter movies have been wildly popular and hugely

successful. how much money are we talking about in terms of franchise? >> they're the most successful ever. they've made more than $5.5 billion. they've made more money than the two james bond movies. >> what about the last movie that's going to come along, the eighth film but about the seventh book? >> we all know how it ends. >> we do? >> at least of us who read the books. it will be interesting to see. i think some of the harry potter movies have been entertaining. i thought the third one was great. >> "the prisoner of azkaban"? >> good. you've done your harry potter homework. >> i'm definitely a fan. let's say i've never read a book and i go to see these films. will you be able to follow along? >> i was lost. i felt like i needed cliff notes. >> really? it was a dense book. she was trying to wrap everything up. >> she is. she is. and there's characters you don't remember and who's father's this? who's related? you don't remember all the characters because there's so many in the books. i think they probably could have

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a new aaa report says improved economic conditions will boost travel this year by more than 11%. but the focus this week is likely to be the controversial new airport screening rules. joining us with the latest from london is the contributing editor of "travel" magazine, sean o'neill. so sean, first up, do you think the tsa had any idea this was going to cause so much kroe controversy, these new rules? >> i think it took them completely by surprise. it's been seen by their reaction. earlier this morning the tsa says they're not backing down from any of their policies. but on friday they caved into the two pilots unions. pilots insisted they did not want to go through the screenings, and now they no

longer have to. >> what about flight attendants? they want the same treatment. >> it will be interesting to see how that plays out alex. this week one out of every five flyers is likely to have to go through the body-scanning machines. but if they opt to do the pat-downs, it takes four times as long. so a if a lot of people opt to do the pat-downs, it could be terrible. >> what about in london? is it the same kind of a situation? >> well, london, paris, their governments have decided that they're too -- they're worried about the privacy issue, so they have not installed these machines yet. so interestingly, when i fly back to the u.s., i won't have to pass through the body scanners. >> and what did you do when you took off from -- was it new york? >> it was from new york. and it is a humiliating experience. you have to put your hands above your head. and they bark at you. but it is faster to go through the body-scanning machines, and that was more important to me. >> you weren't stopped or anything? you had clean sailing through? >> i did have clean sailing through. it was good that it wasn't on a holiday weekend.

>> yeah. very good point indeed. well, safe travels when you come home, sean o'neill, we look forward to seeing from you and hearing from you about whatted there in london on the way back. have a good one. >> happy thanksgiving. >> and to you. thank you. and that wraps up our live coverage. stay with us for the headlines, updates, breaking news as it happens. up next, the town hall event on immigration with lawrence o'donnell. i'm alex witt. have a great day and a happy thanksgiving, everyone. thanks for joining us. [ groans ] ♪ oh, something on this bed's got the funky smell ♪ ♪ oh, no [ sniffs ] ♪ all this mildew is just not going well ♪ ♪ what's worse, this couch... [ sniffs ] ♪ this closet... ♪ this bag, ohhh! [ male announcer ] eliminate 7 everyday odors in the things you can't wash with febreze. febreze gets rid of odors... and leaves a light fresh scent. never a harsh smell. [ family ] ahhhhhh... ♪ [ male announcer ] it's a breath of fresh air.

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