will willie, if it's way too early -- >> stay tuned for the daily rundown. how do we do the best job of balancing the security and privacy -- >> the new patdown measures sparking outrage might need to be reevaluated. showdown over the new s.t.a.r.t. treaty. will that help this treaty get passed in the lame duck conference? plus -- >> i think she's very happy in alaska and i hope she'll stay there. >> the former first lady weighs in on sarah palin. good morning, everyone. it's november 22nd, 2010. i'm savannah guthrie, chuck todd is off. big travel week. big controversy over the new airport security measures and all this heat might cause the

tsa to change those measures. tom costello has the latest. >> good day to you from reagan national airport. is tsa is under tremendous pressure not only from some on capitol hill, but the growing public anger over these patdowns. . the tsa says only a small fraction of the public would be selected for one of these patdowns, yet so many complaints of people complaining that they have quite literally had artificial bladders on the outside of them they're wearing because of a medical condition have been smashed and urine has fallen on them. and women with breast pros thesis and people with artificial knees having to prove that and then the patdown in some very personal places on the body. all of that has got the tsa reeling from tremendous public

backlash. this morning on "today," matt lauer asked the tsa chief about this. >> are you now actively rethinking this policy? >> yes, matt, we constantly evaluate our protocals in light of the latest intelligence. we'll look at how can we do to most effective screening knows there's a tradeoff, the tradeoff between security and privacy. >> several bloggers have called for a national day for traveler to on wednesday, the day before thanksgiving say they're not going to go through the scanner, setting themselves up for patdown and creating longer lines at check points. the airlines say they're staffing up in case of that, but they are hoping that most people on wednesday are simply going to want to get to grandma's house for turkey and not protest the tsa, but this means that this

could be rather interesting travel week. back to you. >> thank you. now to fresh worries over north korea. news that it managed to secretly build a sophisticated uranium enrichment plant. the intelligence community is working today to determine why north korea is revealing this publicly now. jim miklaszewski is live at the pentagon this morning for us. what's the latest? >> the stanford scientist who was invited to north korea to at least take a look at this facility said he was stunned by the scope and sophistication of this facility. hundreds and hundreds, perhaps a thousand of these centrifuges to enrich uranium that could be used in a nuclear weapon. officials tell us north korea's still a long way away from producing a viable weapon to put on top of a missile to be sent anywhere outside of north korea,

but over the weekend, admiral mike mullen, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said this revelation proves north korea stel remains a serious threat. >> it's north korea continuing on a past destabilizing for the region. it confirms or validates the concern we've had for years about their enriching uranium. >> u.s. intelligence and the american officials didn't reveal this, this scientist was actually invited by the north koreans knowing full well he'd spill it to the rest of the world. you have to question the motive. u.s. intelligence and officials here at the pentagon believe there are two reasons. one, to give the government some kind of advantage in possible upcoming talks on north korea's nuclear program, but also the

succession. kim jong-il about to be replaced by his son and it's believed that this could give him more authority having that nuclear hold card in his hands. >> flexing of the muscles there. jim miklaszewski at the pent for us this morning. the white house still hoping for a breakthrough with senate republicans on the s.t.a.r.t. treaty, launching an offense on shows over the weekend. hillary clinton said it was a matter of national security to get it passed. >> everyone has operated in good faith. we have looked hard at this. in respect to s.t.a.r.t., which concerns not just trade, but life or death, because we're talking about thousands of nuclear warheads that are still pointed at the united states, the president believes that this does go beyond politics. >> we're going to have more on the showdown with the u.s. top

nato. could the vatican be rethinking its stance on condom use? that's what some are saying about a book set to be released tomorrow. kerry sanders joins us from miami. what does the pope say? >> first of all, here's the book. "light of the world." he did an interview with peter seabolt. they conducted the interview in july. in one question, it appears to be really making the news. that is about the use of condoms and does the church allow the use of con dodomcondoms. the discussion about was about using condoms in africa where the spread of aids is a problem. the pope says --

and so of course, the reaction is it appears the pope has moved what has been a very long, stubborn line. the publisher of the book, father joseph, sat and talked to me. that is what he had to say of what the pope's answer means. >> saying someone could do it in a particular case having an intention of causing less harm and that could be a first little step towards a more moral life, but that does not say, okay, use condo condoms, it's all right. >> so, is that an endorsement or not? like so many things, it's a matter of interpretation.

according to father fessio, the pope is not endorsing the use of c condoms. the book touches on different situations, rather directly, about the sex abuse within the church, about the role in the church and the pope played when there was hitler germany and really a lot of things that are going to also make news about the orthodox church perhaps finding a way back to the roman catholic church. bottom line, the book comes out tomorrow and i think the most interesting thing, i got the advanced copy, read through it and we were asked not to talk about this until tomorrow and then guess who broke the embargo? the official publication of the vatican. that's why we're talking about it now. >> i guess they can break their own rules. seems like there's a specific

ambiguity in some of those statements. about 20 minutes to go until the opening bell kicks off. the big story today, ireland agreeing to an emergency bailout. for more, let's go to becky quick. good morning. put this in perspective for us. we remember the greek bailout and how that had huge effect over here. could what's happening in ireland affect businesses here? >> that's the huge concern. this seems like this is deja vu all over again. ireland finally saying, yes, we need a package. the imf and eu is going to tail bale them out. while we initially saw stocks trading higher, that washed out quickly. the concern on trading desks around the world is that this is not the final step. they're already turning not only to the details of what happens in ireland, but if more boailous are needed. they're looking at portugal and spain, one that could be too big

for the eu to handle. that's why you see stocks trading lower. right now, those dow futures are down by about 40 to 45 points below fair value. also, there was news today from the federal reserve bank of chicago looking at its national activity index, it showed a slight improvement in october, but you're still looking at negative territory. the chicago federal reserve saying at this point they were looking at negative 0.28. the big thing we're watching for is the retailers. are you working friday or going to be out shopping? >> i hope to be out shopping, becky, now that you've outed me. >> there are 138 million people they are expected to be out. you're crazy.

i'm off on friday, too, and there's no way i'm going anywhere near a mall. >> i know. it's either that our traveling. pick your poison. becky quick with the firs look at wall street. thank you. coming up, the president gets a big boost from world leaders on the s.t.a.r.t. treaty. we're going to talk with brigadier general john adams. plus, hundreds turn out in hollywood to pay their respects to a veteran pub cyst a week after her murder. and we're going take a look at the vice president's schedule. you're watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. ♪ ♪ i was young and i was stupid ♪ i had just turned 17

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we've gone through 18 hearings. answered 1,000 questions. we have met the concerns about modernizing our nuclear stockpile. there's no other reason not to do it. than the fact that you know, washington has become a very partisan place. >> the p president strongly hinting that politics is the only thing standing in the way of ratification of the new arms treaty. jon kyl said last week there is no chance we'll get past this lame duck session before congress gets back. john adams joins me now. good morning. great to have you here. the president obviously hinting

maybe it's politics holding this up in the senate. first question to you, is there a real urgency to get this done this year or could it wait until next year? >> i think there is a real urgency. this morning, i saw sign that the fire marshall has inspected the elevator for fire safety. i trust the hotel, but i like to see the sign that the fire marshall has verified it's safe from fire. the same with the treaty. we need to get our inspectors back on the ground to verify the russian nuclear arsonal. having the weapons without verification, without monitoring, it's just irresponsible. we need to xwet the inspections started again. >> do you think senator kyl and others concerns or sub stative? >> i look at it as a nonpartisan issue.

what we're trying to do is part of the consensus for american security, which is what i'm part of, is take a look at issues that affect the national security of the united states. one of which is the new s.t.a.r.t. treaty. out of this weekend's summit, we had a tremendous momentum created by really significant steps taken by nato and russia. we need to keep that going. we have a relationship with russia that's very important. this treaty is a corner stone. all the military leaders, all our national security leaders who serve today and leaders retired like myself speak out on this issue and there's a really broad consensus that this treaty is important for our national security now. >> let's take some of the concerns by kyl and others. this notion of missile defense, the idea that the treaty curtail what is the u.s. is able to do in terms of missile defense in europe. what do you say to that? >> it's very interesting that

over the weekend, the russians and nato signed an agreement where the russians agreed for the first time about being parking lpart of a theatre missile defts in europe. the concern is good, with this momentum created at the summit, we actually have the russians begin to come board. certainly the allies are on board. all 20 voted for a nato wide missile defense system. they agreed to have a defense system, this is a challenge, but we've got from one end to the alliance to the other and the russians have agreed to work with us on that. significant. >> the other big piece senator kyl has been talking about is money for nuclear monitoring. his belief, we can't really

afford to make these cuts until we make sure the nuclear weapons we have are up to date. the ministry says there's $84 billion put forward to this, but is that a good point? >> it's a great question. i had an opportunity to sit down with senator kyl's staff. of course. we want a safe arsonal for the united states. another thing that came out of the weekend, nato agrees that nato must remain a nuclear alliance. certainly that's part of our nuclear review this past spring. $84 billion, $84.1 billion, is is significant increase from what the previous budget was. everyone who has taken a hard look at what that can do agrees that's more than sufficient.

good question. i think the answer have been has been given back. >> very quickly, hillary clinton said this was a matter of life or death and would you put the stakes that high? >> absolutely. inni i think the matter of life and death is we need to have verification and monitoring of 90% of the world's nuclear weapons. the senate's got a responsibility to do that. >> john adams, it's great to have your perspective this morning. coming up, ireland's $100 billion bailout. will what happens across the pond have a big slash here? plus, gunned down on the streets of beverly hills. was ronni chasen targeted for murder or in the wrong place at the wrong time? but first, our washington speak today. pat-down. yes, it is the buzz word of the moment. here's how the tsa defines it.

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this weekend, hundreds turned out to pay their respects to a hollywood who is gunned down in beverly hills. kristen welker is live with us in los angeles. bring us up to date on this investigation. >> reporter: police have been working around to clock to solve this case and so far, no new reports on new leads. this as hollywood comes together

to say good-bye. car after car lined up as friends and members of the entertainment industry arrived to pay their final respects to publicist ronni chasen. chasen was also remembered at a private reception on the sony lot paid for my all six major studios. >> many hundreds of people are going to miss ronni chasen. she was a superstar, what she did was remarkable. >> reporter: she created oscar buzz for films like "on golden pond," but now, more attention is being paid to the details surrounding her murder. the last images of her were captured last monday night. chasen's mercedes crashed on this street early tuesday morning. she was found with multiple gun

shot wounds in her chest and died at a nearby hospital. >> i think the level of anger in this case is evident. five shots. boom, boom, boom. this person, if they had 20 bullets, i think they would have shot her 20 times. >> reporter: the town's police chief issued a statement asking the press to stop quote relying on erroneous information, theorys or speculation. since then, rumors have continued to swirl. was it a targeted killing, a case of mistaken identity or road rage. >> the road rage aspect, cars are riddled with bullets. not in this case. >> reporter: private investig e investigatinvestigat investigator says many of the theorys sound implausible. >> i think think who ever killed her knew exactly what they were

doing and if she was here, she could probably put two and two together. >> reporter: this as nervous residents struggle to make sense of such an unlikely crime. now adding to this mystery, at least five casting directors reportedly received death threats earlier this month. police haven't found a link between the threats and chasen's murder. she was not a casting director. there's a $125,000 reward for information leading to an arrest. >> an intriguing story in los angeles. thank you. still ahead, are the skies getting a bit too friendly? what can passengers expect as they head out for holiday travel and is the dust up over pat downs making us less safe? and why charles schumer could be the most influential

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here's the look at what stories are making headlines this morning. in new zealand, workers remain missing. today, crews are testing a high-tech robot they hope will be able to provide key information in the search. a new trail date has been set for two american hikers held in iran for over a year. the trial was supposed to have started this month.

it's scheduled for february. sarah shourd was freed in september. according to a new study, st. louis is the most dangerous city with a crime rate five times as high as the average. camden, new jersey, which topped last year's list came in second. detroit, flint rounded out the top five. and one person who does not appear to think highly of sarah palin's possible white house run is a former first lady. barbara bush. she talked about the former alaska governor in an interview with larry king. >> what's your read about sarah palin? >> i sat next to her once. thought she was beautiful and she's very happy in alaska and i hope she'll stay there. >> the big business news, ireland agrees to take a $100 billion bailout. the u.s. markets just opened, so

the question is what will the impact be. steve, good morning to you. i think a lot of folks are wondering if what happens in ireland will stay in ireland. >> as you might remember, we had a pretty sent recovery in the spring in the united states, then europe sort of exploded. that was one of the factors that derailed recovery. specifically in the peripheral can remain isolated. there's a large program in place that's the analog of our federal reserve here along with the international monetary fund. they have quite a big fund of money put together to try to insulate the european economy and the world economy in fact from what's happening. but as soon as they did agree,

then ireland today, the questions about whether or not there are other countries, portugal and spain remain the two big questions in europe. >> you call this country, the pigs? >> right. portugal, ireland, italy, greece and spain. that's the akronym. >> just so people understand, what led to ireland's problems? how did it get to the point it needed this bailout? >> we created these toxic assets over here. guess who bought them? among them, european banks. meanwhile, their economies were going great. their governments were spending like it was going out of style and they ended up with huge budget deficits beyond what they agreed to. so you have a combination of banks needing bout bailouts and

banks without money. that's why you have to have these institutions stepping in. just as you suggested at the top, they want it to stop spreading. >> steve liesman, thanks so much. politics now and you could call him charles in charge, in a bid to save the 23 senate seats the caucus is defending in 2012, democrats with positioning chuck schumer in the senate. you wrote about this in the national journal. chuck schumer, already a powerful member of the democratic caucus. he's still nominally number three in the caucus after this, but tell us about this power shift where he's really in a position to take the leadership role. >> he's right behind harry reid. he has eclipsed dick durbin. charles schumer has a job that will put him in charge of

scheduling, policy and communication. not much left. >> office space. >> all right. before you think, well, this is a blow to harry reid, it's actually a strategic move that reid is engineering himself. said look, reid won his re-election. he's a person of strength and also a person who knows his limitations. and these 21 democrats and two independents who caucused with democrats are going to need a more reliable, predictable flow of policy, legislation and sound bites to prepare for a re-election of the president in 2012. only ten republicans are up. one of those seats, republican seats viewed as vulnerable. democrats have a lot of seats to protect. that's why charles is in charge. >> and we are familiar with his incredibly aggressive media shop. will he also be in charge or at least have a strong say in which

pieces of legislation come up were a vote, chewhen, which is potentially agenda setting. >> he will confer regularly with the majority leader about those kinds of questions and tailor the message early on. he told me in an interview, we have got to get off the talking point of economic security and talk about private sector economic growth. because if we don't, democrats are going to go into this cycle with the same liableties. schumer was the head of the committee in '06 and '08. he won 13 contested elections. didn't lose one. he's very committed to this class. >> and how do you expect he'll work with the white house? obviously, that will be a key part of this. >> where their agendas and polling align, they'll work together. where they don't and where

centrist democrats like jim web in virginia, claire mccaskill in missouri need to separate themselves, charles will also be in charge of that. >> let's look at the 2012 quinnipiac poll, one of many we will see -- >> it's never too early. >> really the day after the midterms were over, we were all doing it. sarah palin at the top. 19%. then mitt romney, huckabee. newt gingrich in there. >> those are the top four, but let's wait for the real sizzle in the stakeak. iowa and new hampshire. these are national, name recognition numbers. interestingly, sarah palin has not put very much distance between those others and she was by far the most visible republican in this midterm cycle. that means those other three are nipping at her heels we learned

from hillary clinton's experience in 2008, big, national numbers can evaporate quickly. >> if you're a mitt romney or one of these others that can get in the race, do you think they're just hoping that sarah palin gets in it so she can be treated equally, like a real candidate. have to go to the forums, the debate opposed to always being talked about, but not facing the same level of test. >> there was one republican on the list who wants her at the debates more than any other. that's newt gingrich. i think he relishes the idea of challenges every republican on the give and take of debate, but would relish the debate of sarah palin. >> a few republicans have challenged her, barbara bush appare apparently. >> that is a reflection of the george herbert washington wing of the policy. he clashed on taxes, budget

cuts. all those things. the clashes then were sort of the fore run of the tea party. this is an old, long standing clash between that wing of the republican party and this new much more agitating wing. >> not all to be tgether surpri. major garrett, thank you. let's do our trivia. which u.s. senator claims he has climbed arizona's camelback mountain more than 1,000 times. senat john kyl. coming up, "saturday night live" weighing in on the tsa getting up close and personal at the airports. spending time with a tsa agent couldn't be easier. simply book a flight departing from any american airport. >> you know you have a pr problem when -- okay, it's not laughing matter for some passengers. coming up, is there a less

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look for the least intrusive method while making their security is responding to the threats. hillary clinton was more blunt on sunday. >> i understand how difficult it is and offensive it must be for the people going through it. >> final question. my time is up, but would you submit to one of these patdowns? >> not if i could avoid it? no, i mean, who would? >> errol southers, thank you for being with us. you're up early there in california. >> thank you. happy to be here. >> i'd love to get your opinion as you watched this debate unfold. it hasn't died down at all. looking at what the tsa has impleme implemented, is there a doubt in your mind this is necessary? >> there's no doubt this is

necessary, however, i believe it could have been rolled out in a different matter. as the president mentioned, the threat the very real. we have an adderer sayre that continues to dominate the aviation domain. there was an education process that would have probably -- as opposed to pushing back now. >> it sounds like you think it's more of a public relations problem than anything else. they were warnings about this. do you think people just didn't really comprehend how elaborate these procedures would be? >> it's been a ground swell of things that have happened over the last several months. the united kingdom was pushing back against the tsa's policies, then a thwarted attack in d.c. followed by the cargo bomb

attempt last month and now this. and so here you have a new policy that's been implemented at the highest travel season of the year and the public is fearful, if you will, and apprehensi apprehensive. i understand the tsa has reached out. they have a blog post trying to inform people, but this is a situation where those more resilient countries in the world with are better at this than we are because they educate their public and make them part of the system. >> meanwhile, the pilots, you think these are experienced folks. they obviously had something of a backlash and now, they're not subject to these screenings. >> well, i think that's appropriate. captain sullenberger said it best, when they should be trusted partners. one of the things we looked at as with trust l traveler program. secretary napolitano announced a program is scheduled to be implemented. we have to understand that what

we're dealing with here is the human factor of terrorism. there's a human element that can't be ignored. >> do you think on the flip side of this, we've got a nation of people overreacting. they would not be pleased if some of these bombs or devices somehow were managed to get on to an airplane. obviously, the tsa is trying to keep flying safe. >> absolutely, savannah. security and safety is paramount and i don't know if the level of complaints are really as significant as they're being portrayed here. the vast majority based on polling, people are supportive of measures to keep themselves safe. but again, there are going to be people that are upset. i think it's important here that people become part of the process. i'm not suggesting they don't voice displeasure. procedures seem to be inappropriate or if they are placed in situations that are compromising, but i don't know the level of overreaction here,

but i think that the tsa is doing to best job they can to keep people safe and this process may evolve over time. the fact that pilots are exment. >> some might look at this and say, we're trying to adapt to security threats like the so-called underwear bomber who attempted that attack almost one year ago. how is it these security measures always happen after the fact. it's not as though someone could not imagine someone sneaking a device in this in manner and 11 months later, we're just now implementing measures to address it? >> why does it appear that we have security layers placed look at yesterday's threat instead of tomorrow's vulnerability.

what's important here is the conversation with international partners to address a transnational threat in a way that we can all understand how to address tomorrow's issue and not appear to the public that we don't understand what's going on in looking at yesterday's threat. >> counterterrorism former chief of intelligence at l.a.x. thank you. coming up next, when a traditional thanksgiving pie isn't good enough. there's a new holiday stackable treat just in time for your stomachache. follow us on twitter, at chuck todd, at savannah guthrie, at "the daily rundown." ♪ [ man ] i thought our family business would always be boots. until one day, my daughter showed me a designer handbag. and like that, we had a new side to our business. [ male announcer ] when businesses see an opportunity, the hartford is there. protecting their employees and property

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with the thanksgiving crush under way a possible turning point in the uproar over passenger pat-downs. the tsa may rethink the policy after travelers, lawmakers and even hillary clinton call it offensivive. >> would you submit to one of these pat-downs? >> not if i -- not if i could avoid it. no, who would? terror attacks of the cheap. al qaeda vowing more low budget strikes like the failed parcel bomb plot. new details of their strategy of a thousand cuts. a surprising, new poll about

president obama's 2012 chances, and the republicans with the best chance of beating him. and reports of 0 trouble in paradise already for prince william and kate medalton. may maybe "saturday night live" isn't too far off. >> we've been walk on air. it's brilliant and exciting. >> shut up! >> joining me today, former tsa security policy head tom blank. terror analyst evan kohlmann, the daily beast's brian curtis. former air america host, sam sader. kristin soltice and roy watcher, neil shawn. good monday morning. i'm chris jansing. this is "jansing & company." we're into one of the busiest travel weeks of the year for americans and there is growing public outrage over enhanced airport screening. after a weekend of escalating complaints, the tsa says it will continue to make