methods as, quote, minimally invasive as possible. too late for some travelers including a breast cancer survivor who says she endured a humiliating pat-down. >> she touched the prosthesis, she moved it up and down and left and right and then she said, you're okay. >> not only did they search me once, they pulled me into another room and searched me again and i just felt dirty. >> would you submit to one of these pat-downs? >> not if i -- not if i could avoid it. no. i mean, who would? >> nbc's tom costello live at washington's reagan national airport. tom it does seem that the tsa is in a really difficult position, especially heading into the strong travel weekend. >> reporter: yeah, i think some the tsa continues to say it can't change the policy, it won't change the policy. but i think as you start to really split their words ever so slightly you see that they may be giving themselves a little bit of wiggle room to tweak it ever so slightly.

i don't think you're going -- certainly you will not see the full body imageers eliminated. they're invested in those, rolled out across the country. they may upgrade the software it's a done deal. it's the pat-downs that seem to be the issue here. might the tsa change or modify their approach on the pat-downs for those people who opt out of that full body imageer scanner or, for whatever reason, necessitate a pat-down. the outrage has been so tremendous over last week, more than most people anticipated, i think that's a possibility, but i don't think the tsa will advertise it. if they do it they don't want to tell terrorists what they're doing but there may be some minor tweaks and modifications behind the scenes here over the course of the next few weeks that only you and i may notice if we're frequent travelers. they have a real, ongoing threat from al qaeda that's tried in the last year alone to bring down passenger planes and cargo planes, and they believe that they've got to do something to secure these planes as best they

can. >> yeah. the question is, what's the most effective? thank you, tom. good to see you. i want to bring in tom blank, former head of tsa security policy. good morning. it's good to see you. what do you think the tsa should do right now? i mean, on under hand obviously you have real concerns. ongoing concerns about possible terror strikes but is this the most effective way to go about it? >> first of all we need to keep in mind the tsa has a vouler inability in finding explosives hidden 0 a person's body at checkpoint. that has to be their priority. secondly what we may see tsa do over the next period of time is what we should expect them to do they should evaluate the intelligence, evaluate the threat, and determine the best way to try to defeat the threat that they perceive. and if that warrants some changes so that they get the right balance between security and passenger service, i think they'll proceed to do that, if it's warranted in their ongoing risk an al. >> i guess one of the bigger concerns that a lot of people have who fly a lot, when you see

an 80-year-old woman patted down or a teenager in a wheelchair, it does make you wonder, and then you know, online if you look at blogs, even poor tsa agents anonymously posting their embarra embarrassment. one of them said that a large number of travelers he deals with don't seem to know what personal hygiene is. it seems like a high ick factor on both ends of the spectrum. is this something that you think will or should reopen the debate about -- and people don't like to use the word -- but profiling? >> i think the tsa remains pretty much opposed to profiling and there always will be incidents where the screeners get it wrong, there's no question about that. and people that really don't present a risk will be subjected to some unpleasant procedures at the checkpoint. until we move away from the gal therrien approach to where everyone is equal at the

checkpoint, that's going to be difficult to eliminate. i don't think we should lose sight of the fact the tsa screening upwards of 2 million people every day, and for the most part the vast majority going through without a problem, accepting the procedures, and the security is very high. >> slate magazine had an article this weekend and said that the tsa has never pointed to a specific case where a screener stopped a would-be terrorist at a checkpoint even though they say, tsa otherwise does like to tot successes like when they stop people traveling with guns. >> first of all, i think it would be a mistake it would be helpful to the terrorists if tsa would give out specifics. the terrorists only have to get it riceth right once. if we're taking steps and subjecting ourselves to unpleasant experiences we're trying to defeat the terrorists just that one time because we

know the horrific success that one time can have on us all. we're at this place, of course because of the continuing thread from al qaeda. most recently failed bombings of two cargo planes last month. in the latest edition of the terrorist english language magazine "inspire" carried boasts the plot cost $4,200 and calls it a good bargain since in t. forces the west to spend billions on new security. evan kohlmann, good to see you. >> good to have me. >> i want to read to you from the third edition of the magazine we will continue with similar operations and we dot mind at all if the stage in they're intercepted. it is such a good barge tonight spread fear amongst the enemy and keep him on his toes in exchange for a few months of work and a few thousand bucks. they call this the strategy of a thousand cuts. >> if you believe this, this an

operation that took three months to plan, $4,200. >> six guys? >> that's not a sophisticated operation but it's sophisticated in the sense it brought us to our knees. we're talking about relaxing security provisions when al qaeda's saying to us, look, we're preparing another operation, we're going to target civilian planes next time, we're not looking to kill a loot of people. we're looking to bring down your airiation industry. you better be there to protect your planes because otherwise we're going to be there. >> the question is how. it seems whenever one thing happens whether it's a shoe or underwear bomber we respond to that, and they come up with something new. do we need to look at something like an israeli approach. >> i don't know if an israeli approach will oh because of the scale of the u.s. flights every day. if you look at what al qaeda's doing a pat-down procedure is not going to be enough. two ways of looking at the complaints of pat-downs. one way al qaeda keeps trying to attack our aircraft over and over again. it's not foolish not to put up security procedures.

in the case of al qaeda in the arari arainian peninsula, they can sneak weapons past the security even when pat-downs are involved. the brother of the bombmaker behind the latest cargo plot went through not only airline security but the personal security surrounding a senior member of the saudi royal family, was patted down, searched and nearly assassinated the guy. >> "inspire," a special edition. english language magazine, very slick. >> very. >> i hate to use the word, beautifully produced if you're looking at how it looks. and the question is, is it working? there any indication that it's recruiting people to do these things in the u.s. and uk, other english-speaking countries? >> it's early but i don't think there's any doubt about it. the editor is a guy from north carolina, raleigh, north carolina. the whole purpose of this is so encourage people to follow in the path of al qaeda, to do this whether al qaeda tells them

directly to do it or not. i'm sure you will see people who will follow instructions how to make a bomb in the kitchen of your mom. that will come up again. >> all right. stay with us if you will, everyboevan. i want to bring in the panel. the magazine calls these failed bombings a success because, as i mentioned they said it costs the u.s., the uk, billions of dollars in security and some of the measures like full body scans and pat-downs have outraged americans. in faf in fact, it made our secretary of state uncomfortable. kristin, did the plot achieve what it wanted to? are we giving them what they hoped? >> i think that what we're dealing with is the fact that these terrorists keep coming up with new, different ways to get around the patchwork system we've put together where we have, you know, somebody tries to bomb a plane with shoes. now we have to take off our shoes. someone tries to use liquids, now we have to put shampoo in bottles. last christmas someone put a

bomb in their underware, now we go through scanners. people want to feel like we're doing sorts of things to prevent terrorists to getting to the airport in the first place. until folks feel confident that's working it's going to be difficult to sort of ramp up things at the airport. >> well, brian, let me read something to you from a las vegas newspaper. a guy who says every time his family flies his disabled daughter gets patted down. quote, she's my hero and it makes my heartache to see her humiliated by tsa workers who i'm sure are following orders. i suppose you can't be disordered with all of the freshman high school terrorist suspects wheeling around these days. does it take only a few to hurt what the tsa is trying to achieve here? >> as your guest was saying, it's a small number of people going through airline security every day but it's caused a big political effect. >> when it's a disabled girl and

breast cancer survivor? >> no one thinks those were proper pat-down, i don't think. but the idea is, i think, when you talk about al qaeda, you need to know what the stakes are. with on one hand you have a determined organization determined to kill lots of americans. on the other hand you have invasive procedures. if we have a real debate this b. this, here is what is at stake here, here is:privacy we're giving up and things like this is going to happen when we give up that amount of privacy. >> it seems to say in this edition they don't put off another 9/11 because of the security, that's fine with them as long as they can keep doing these thousand cuts. >> we actually -- to have that nonhistorical debate we do need to talk about what are the implications if somebody gets on the plane with a bomb in their underwear. the fact of the the matter is it may not bring down the plane that the point. the real issue is, is that i think it's a very healthy thing that the american public is looking at scanners and taking

a -- questioning what the real value is. this is in relationship to the latest bombing. the scanners have been -- have been in the pipeline for six years under chertoff. this is really ha question of being rational what the real threat is and americans learning to question these things. once they start to question this, hopefully this opens the door to questioning things like warrantless wiretapping, things like allowing the president to assassinate individuals just based on his own determination that they're a threat to the country. >> we'll see what happens this weekend because we've got all of these calls on the internet now for people to opt out, which could make lines really long which they are on a holiday weekend. we're going to talk more in just a few minutes. a lot else going on, though. added twist to the murder mystery of publicist ronni chasen. five casting directors reportedly got death threats this month. police are not saying there's any connection to chasen's

death. chasen was laid to rest yesterday. hollywood remains on edge. kristin walker is in beverly hills. do investigators have any real leads here that we know of? >> reporter: not really, chris. they've been working around the clock, as you can imagine to try to solve this case because there is so much concern here in beverly hills about this. but hollywood did pause this weekend to pay tribute. scores of friends and members of the entertainment community attended a memorial service for 64-year-old ronni chasen. big names included elliott gould, peter fonda. chasen was murdered tuesday when she was shot multiple times in the chest while driving home from a movie premiere. she was found slumped over in her mercedes which had crashed after that shooting happened. now again, chris, to your point, adding to this mystery is the bizarre fact that at least five casting directors had reportedly

received death threats over this month. police haven't been able to establish a link between those threats and between chasen's murder. she was, of course a publicist, not a casting director. still, there is $125,000 reward for information leading to an arrest. chris? >> kristin welker, thank you so much. president obama versus palin or romney or mitch daniels. a new poll with stunning results. how would you like to save eight grand a year? richard lui tells us how it's done. >> eight grand is big money. we've got the most common sense tips you'll be telling your friends about to keep more money in your pockets. bieber fever, do you have it? it was infectious last night where justin bieber dominated the night. he won four trophies including favorite entertaining of the year. 16 years old, the youngest artist ever to win the ama's top honor and invited mentor and usher to the stage to share his moment.

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a brand-new poll gives us a glimpse for president of 2012 and it's closer than you might think. has president obama in a statistical dead heat against two different republican challengers. mitt romney and mike huckabee. the quinnipiac poll shows obama beating sarah palin. i want to bring in our company. if president obama is in a statistical dead heat with anyone, it's mitt and mike hu huckab

huckabee. are you shocked by that? >> i'm actually not. if you're mitt romney and you've been preparing for this for a long time you'd be upset if you weren't ahead of president obama, given where the economy is, where the president's approval ratings. remember, i think two years out before an election is a shifting out period with the economy right now. i'm not surprise by that. with mitt romney the only thing he'd be upset about he didn't have a bigger lead over obama. >> is that the surprising i thing, he should have a bigger lead given the economy? >> he's not been in the spotlight for a couple of years. it's a question of jobs. the thing that will hurt romney is happening in florida and it's a case brought against the health care reform. one of the amicus briefs filed there quoted romney on the day he signed his massachusetts bill and it basically said, he criticized his libertarian friends for criticizing the

mandate. and that is going to come back to haunt him, i think. >> let's me look at sarah palin's 2012 hope. she polls as the worst against obama, 48-40, viewed the most negatively of the 2012 gop hopefuls. a 54-33 negative among independents but this shows her winning in a faked up gop primary out of romney, huckabee, gingrich, mitch daniels. tim poll lenity, she comes out ahead. what do you make of that. >> sarah palin has a very strong core group of supporters who absolutely love her. her manner of -- i don't want to say campaigning because she hasn't necessarily said she's running in 2012 but her method of garnering attention notice political sphere is unconventional and wins supporters among a group of conservative republicans, those who like the vibe that she gives off and then there are folks, a lot of independents, among who she struggles a bit more and this has a lot to do with

concerns held over from the 2008 election. she's had a rough treatment in the media as well. i think that's why she has a strong performance among republican primary audience but less strong when you go to -- >> rough treatment in the media, this is is a woman who has been given a prime time television show watched by 5 million people, to essentially do what looks i think to a lot of people like one of those things you see at a convention where, you know, there's all of these beautiful landscape pictures and loving with the family. i don't know, do we think that she's getting a hard time in the media? >> i think that -- i believe that she gets a hard time in terms of folks really questioning and her response to the katie couric interview when she said that she sort of bumbled that question what she responded to. >> that was two years ago. >> since then she's done a lot of things where folks who

underestimate her will be surprised over the next few months. >> she hasn't done anything in the last few years to convince anybody she can be president of the united states. >> positive credentials. >> this is an example of what is the central republican the republicans have, is that their base likes one thing and the rest of the country doesn't. i mean, you can look at 2010 as a repudiation of the establishment but that. doesn't mean people like the republicans and i think that's the problem they're going to have in 2012. >> brian, sam, kristin, thank you. the inside politics of throwing a royal wedding that led prince william to put his foot down. details in three. time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. jenny fulton and ashley furr worked in the financial industry until both pink slipped. jenny loved making pickles from her grandmother's recipe so they went to pickle school and with the help of friends started miss

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role in wedding preparations left his grandmother in an uncomfortable role in outside observer. royal watcher neil shawn joins us now. i guess good afternoon over there. how are you? >> not bad. i've missed you. lovely to see you. >> a long weekend. i'm so glad we're reunited. tell me if the queen's unhappy. the two love birds want to put their own wedding together. >> well, you know, again, it's an interesting story. why wouldn't they, chris? this is a brand-new royal family and brand-new future. i think really the sort of when you look back at royal weddings, they they've planned them themselves and the queen has b obviously been involved with previous weddings with charles and andrew, perhaps is the future happiness. why shouldn't they be allowed to pick and choose their guests? she's not going to go up against her favorite grandson, is she? >> could they hurry it up?

when and where, that's what we want to know. >> well, you know, the difficulty, again, is everybody thought it was going to be last week, now we're thinking it may be tomorrow or midweek. so we're talking wednesday. but they can't leave it too much longer. things to be planned. not just the guest the booking of the church or the back abbey and coordinating everything else that needs to make this a worldwide success so obviously great britain looks fantastic in the world's eyes. an interesting time when they get around it. remember it took him quite a few years to get the ring. >> nine years. but who's counting? so the brits love this kid, and you know, he's dashing and, you know, reminds them of the popular mother. but now 64% of brits polled say they want wills and kate to be the next king and queen. what does that mean for charles? >> you know, the thing is, chris, and you wonder why prince

charles talks to plants, you know, this is the poll he gets back. i mean i feel sorry for him. as you know, on your own network, he recently said that there could be queen camilla. no chance he's go anything where. and of course the way that he operates you know, simply the royal lineage, there's no way he can disappear. prince william doesn't want him to disappear. the longer prince charles is in position the longer he has a term to learn it. as prince charles said on tv it's an awful thing to talk about you're batalk about the demise of a loved one. they're trying to stir up media backlash because there's an element of we don't like camilla. we do, but the media don't like her because she's not as, shall we say, glamorous as the lovely princess diana. that's the problem. >> i hope you'll be there tomorrow for me. i don't know if i can go another 48 hours. >> naturally. >> thank you, neil. what has nancy pelosi top

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good morning, i'm chris jansing. joining me, investigative crime reporter, michelle sigona, brighten curtis, sam sed rechr kristin soltis. three delta airline jets had separate engine emergencies over the weekend in spite of the new main tense program. all three failures ended in safe emergency landings in new york, atlanta and ireland. after several failed attempts a secret spy satellite strapped on to a powerful rocket has been launched. it's the largest satellite in the world and intended to step up u.s. eaves dudropping capabilities. the church is care fiing comments made by pope benedict

who held an exception to a long time policy banning contraceptives. he cited one example as an appropriate use, male prostitutes to stop aids. officials are saying this is not a start of a change of policy. mel gibson and his girlfriend will be back in court today. a family law judge will decide how much the actor will get to spend with her and how much money he should pay for child support. harry potter, what a guy, casting the biggest box office spell earning a franchise record $125 million in the u.s. in just the opening weekend. the latest installment of the blockbuster series raked in $205 million overseas, so the worldwide total, more than $330 million. unbelievable. it's a feat nothing short of

amazing. jimmie johnson completing his unprecedented drive for five, capture his fifth straight nascar sprint car championship. he's the only driver ever to win five consecutive sprint cup series championships. there's a happy guy for you. the taliban and afghanistan is rejecting the obama administration's 2014 date to transfer power to the afghan government. at a nato conference this weekend, president obama said his goal is to end combat operations in three years. but the taliban claims its continues offensive will force the u.s. to abandon the war before 2014. when troops do come home, the fight doesn't under for many soldiers. richard engel kout caught up wie soldier from charlie company. he only recently left afghanistan, is that right? >> reporter: that's exactly right. we met one of the soldiers -- let meet start from the begin, chris. about five months ago we were in

southern afghanistan in a place called the argandab valley, a rough part of the country, taliban stronghold. while with this unit of american soldiers they came under attack by 20 taliban fighters, just about 100 meters outside the main gate, and when you're in a firefight and with troops you bond with them, and you really get to understand what they're going through and one of the soldiers we spoke to, his name lewis loftus, sergeant, just left the army, he's back home and we caught up with his in his hometown of akron, ohio. before sundown soldiers from the 82nd airborne division fight off a taliban attack on an american outpost near kandahar. >> reporter: minutes into the fight three american troops injured including two in a key defense tower. sergeant loftus moves in and

takes up april machine gun. soon, the tower is back up. >> watch and shoot. >> reporter: after 30 minutes the taliban assault is driven off. >> make sure you get security in the intersection, elliott. >> reporter: we met loftus earlier in the week on patrols the combat veteran on his second afghan tour volunteers to be up front, spotting for bombs. >> heads up. come here. >> i'm constantly being alert of what's in the next five meters of me and after that the next 25 meters in front of me. >> reporter: he finds relief by looking at photographs of the girl he wants to marry when he goes home to akron, ohio. but he knows there's a chance he might not make it. a friend was just killed by a roadside bomb. when i ask about it, loftus shows how strong he wants to be and how affected he is. >> i -- i pray for his family, i pray for his soul, you know, t

yet -- i try not to think about it because when you think about it then i get like this and it's not -- i don't -- yeah. so, yeah, you know everyone deals with it their own way. i try to hide it. i try not to think about it because i got to stay 100%. i've got keep a good example in front of the other soldiers. i'm sorry. >> reporter: five months after we met him, loftus has now returned to akron, 23 years old, he's moving in with deidra, the girlfriend he missed so much. >> here's some of the guys. >> reporter: but he tells me he

still thinks about the war and dreams he's on patrol. >> pretty vivid dreams some random patrol hanging out with guys in the army i've known but some of them, like, we'd be on patrol and getting shot at with no gun, i don't have a gun in my dream. >> reporter: just being at home is a big adjustment. >> surprise! >> how it's going? >> reporter: at a surprise party, his mother toasts him with champagne. >> this is to louis for his happiness. >> reporter: he's never had any before. loftus plans to use the g.i. bill to go to college. he's not sure when he'll start. he still intends to marry his girlfriend but for now is taking life, he says, one day at a time. richard engel, nbc news, akron, ohio. new american soldiers have moved into that outpost, they are also having a difficult time of it, chris. but on a happier note, loftus girlfriend deidra said around christmas she's going to be in new york and looking at wedding

dresses. it is -- he's back home. it is a difficult adjustment but he seems to be doing okay. >> we wish them so well. thank you, richard. such a compelling story. we appreciate that. south korea is considering redeploying u.s. nuclear weapons in their country. it comes after the revelation of uranium enrichment plants in north korea. the plant could supply enough material to expand and strengthen the north's nuclear arsenal, though the u.s. special envoy for north korea called the report provocative and disappointing but not a crisis. joined by nbc news chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski. what is the pentagon saying about this discovery? >> reporter: well, nobody here is panicking. it's disconcerting, of course, and they've always considered north korea to be a potential serious threat. but in terms of being actually surprised by this, we're getting mixed results. some that we're talk to in the intel and military community say, well, we suspected something like this was going

on, others say that quite frankly, it did come somewhat as a surprise. now this american scientist, who was invited by the north koreans to view this facility, said he was stunned by the scope and the sophistication of the centrifuges used to enrich ur y y uranium that could be used in a weapon. if even if they were able to enrich uranium that would get north korea one step closer to making a weaponized device but they're not where near that at this point. no one here is panicking, nevertheless, they find that disconcerting. what was the motive? the north koreans wanted to get this word out. so it's thought that they're looking for some kind of bargaining chip in some future negotiations or attempting to strengthen the hand of kim jong-il's son set to succeed the leader of north korea, kim jong unsoon because kim jong-il's health appears to be failing.

about the south koreans suggesting they could redeploy tactical nukes in south korea that would be the decision on the part of the u.s. government and although nobody's responding to that quite yet, it just doesn't appear to be a rational decision, you know, oneupsmanship in a nuclear stand-off sudoesn't seem to be e u.s. wants to take it at this point. into the lame duck session of congress and democrats have no major victories. still trying to broker deals on the bush tax cuts, extending unemployment benefits and the s.t.a.r.t. treaty. the house divided mere mirrors a country split how to move forward. when you look at "the washington post" analysis of this election, the gop gains are in districts that are older, less diverse, less educated largely in middle america. democrats kept majorities in the cities and on the coast. what does this say about the

mandate for either side in this equation as we look, can they get anything accomplished before the new session of congress, brian? >> i don't think the lame duck is about the mandate that hap n happened the last election. i think the lame duck is about, for the democrat, getting priorities they didn't get done over the last two years. >> last chance. >> a last chance kind of thing. one prominent democrat told me yesterday, he was frustrated barack obama went on the long planned ten-day trip to asia after the elections. he thought it set democrats back in getting geared up for the lame duck session. time is ticking away. this is not an infinite thing here he goes away for ten days and they didn't get a good start like they wanted to. >> they don't want to walk out saying we got absolutely nothing with the majority. i mean, let us not forget they do hold the majority in the house and the senate, and the president is a democrat. where can they get something done? >> well i don't know. i mean, i think they're going to try to bring up the dream act,

they're going to try to repeal don't ask, don't tell, important voted to have for their base. maybe i'm feeling cynical, i have a feeling millionaires will get tax cut extensions because that's the driving force behind everything these days, is that money, big money, is winning out. >> key deaf rentiation when you say millionaires will get their tax cut. people making over $250,000 a year? might they move it to $1 million plus? >> they might. that might be the compromise that they make, but it seems to me the republicans are going to stop that and the democrats don't seem to have enough incentive to stand up and basically force the republicans to vote against extension of tax cuts for middle class people. >> kristin, real quick, what's going to happen. with tax cuts? >> i can see something happening where republicans stand firm and say now is not the time to increase taxes, particularly on small business owners. a lot of time rhetoric gets thrown around folks with i incomes over $250,000 are rich

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at the top of hour, we've got great guests joining our company. jeff johnson will be here, former condoleezza rice speechwriter, elise jordan, kelly wallace, and from "the guardian" richard adams. police are working around the clock to try to solve the puzzling murder of publicist ronni chasen. hundreds of hollywood's elite turned out for her funeral yesterday, horrified by the late-night shooting that killed the 64-year-old who was very well-known in the entertainment industry. i'm joined by investigative crime reporter, michelle sigona. good morning. >> good morning. >> chasen's mercedes crashed on a street in beverly hills, and she was found with multiple gun wounds in her chest and died at a nearby hospital. >> i spoke with the watch commander and he says at this point the case is completely open. they're still accepting leads, and they're looking for some gaps to fill in that particular time line, as you know to when

exactly this crime did occur, where the shots may have been fired from, the mayor spoke out and say possibly an suv. it's sort of those details they're trying to close in and still move forward with information. if you have any information, please contact the beverly hills police department. >> so when we hear all of these different speculations going on, targeted killing, mistaken identity, road rage, i've heard possibly as initiation for a gang. >> i've heard it all. >> none of those holding more weight than the others? >> maybe possibly she could have been targeted and that's something that authorities, they're combing through her computer, cell phone, conducting interviews now. they're backtracking from that particular point from when the murder did happen. you know, up until, you know, 72 hours prior to that. to be able to see okay exactly did she have problems? did she have enemies? who would want to target her if she was in fact targeted. >> let me switch gears for a minute, michelle. in florida a family of four is

dead. police in tallahassee are calling it a homicide but not saying how the victims were killed. what did police tell you? >> the case is just horrendous, chris. i mean you have three little kids, two twins, 6-year-old twins, and a 3-year-old boy, and their mother murdered inside of their home in tal halsey. two 911 calls came in early saturday morning, one at 1:00 a.m., i can confirm this. they had a call for a barking dog in the neighborhood. investigators did go out, police did go out. they didn't find anything. they did report, you know, to the neighborhood. and then they left. and then again at 10:15 in the morning, a neighbor called reported some suspicious activity at the home. investigators arrived on the scene. they did force entry inside and that's when they found their bodies. when i was speaking to one of the investigators this morning he said you don't even want to know how the children were murdered. so the at this point they're not releasing details at this time but looking at all different angles in this case.

they are still accepting leads. he said, michelle, can you please help to keep the story in the spotlight. we need tips. we need to figure out who murdered the family. when you have a family of four hurded ee mur murdered inside their home, this is horrendous. >> the police forced their way in, not that there was a sign of forced entry by an intrude. >> there were rumors and things like that going around the neighborhood it could have been a burglary. there have been burglaries inside of that neighborhood. but that's been the only major problems that have occurred there in the past. >> but to kill three little kids. michelle, thank you so much. >> have a good day. st. louis the latest city to take the dubious title of most dangerous city in america. acourting to cq press, st. louis has the highest crime rate. camden drops to two. detroit is third.

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