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political analyst pat buchanan and from talking points memo megan carpenter. big developing story this morning, south korea is drawing a line in the sand warning they'll unleash enormous retaliation. a massive barrage between the two countries initiated by the north has killed at least two south korean soldiers. the north fired as many as 100 artillery shells after the warning, after warning the south to halt military drills in the area. south korea returned fire and sent several f-16 fighter jets into the air. senior u.s. military officials are calling the attack provocative and alarming. nbc news chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski joins me now and how much concern is there that this could continue? >> concern enough that the white house released a statement very early this morning condemning the action and calling on north
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korea to halt its belligerent action. i can tell you this now, chris, the priority now according to military officials, the shooting has stopped and this incident appears to be over, at least for now. the priority appears not to escalate the situation to something much bigger than it was. everybody is deeply concerned about what north korea did, particularly on the heels of the north korean submarine that torpedo torpedoed a south korean patrol boat killing 46 south korean sailors earlier this year. there seems to be a pattern, particularly in dealing with some of the contested areas as north korea claims just off the west coast of korea, the korean peninsula where that incident occurred today. but u.s. military officials are telling us that there are no forces being repositioned or reinforced and no new oorders to any u.s. military to step up any kind of defensive positions or,
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particularly, offensive actions. i think what they are hoping is that this dies down and this can be pursued diplomatically through some, through the u.n., which may have a meeting on this later today. >> jim miklaszewski, thank you. >> okay, chris. after more than a week of outrage on where tsa agents have been putting their hands, slight changes are being made to the policy. senior government officials now say that the tsa will reduce the number of passengers who are randomly selected for a pat down. starting tomorrow, of course, one of the busiest travel days of the year, some fed up fliers are threatening to clog the system by refusing a body scanner and going for that longer enhanced pat down. a new "washington post" poll finds americans are split on the up close and personal pat downs with slightly more saying they go too far. but that same poll finds nearly two out of three support full-body scanners. i'm joined by senator george
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lemieux, republican from florida. good morning, senator, good to see you. >> nice to see you, chris. >> tough to find anybody that doesn't have an opinion about this. what's yours? >> my opinion is that the enhanced pat down goes a little too far for most americans. i'd like us to use a little more common sense. we all want safety, that has to be our number one goal. let's use our common sense when we're doing it. we know that most americans whom never traveled overseas, the vast, vast majority of them are no threat at all. we need to use some data that we have, you know, even when you go to disney world, for example, they take your fingerprint. why can't we have a card that show wheres we traveled if we're american citizens and why can't we take a fingerprint. for those 99.99% of americans they pose no threat at all. i don't want my wife to be palted down like this, my kids, my mom. >> there are people who say
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there are phrases which means profiling. is that what you're talking about? >> what i'm talking about is that we know that the threat to this country are radical islamic terrorists. and if you are from des moines, iowa, and you've never traveled outside this country and you're on a trip to come to orlando to ge go to disney world, your chances are infant. let those folks go through the regular screening process and even the imaging process. it is invasive, but it's not being touched. if a regular citizen did that to someone else, they would be arrested for assault. >> we should also say more than a few agents who have gone anonymously on blogs they're not so crazy having to do that themselves. i don't know if you saw this this morning in "usa today" there was a report that two companies got $90 million in government contracts to provide
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these full-body scanners doubled the amount of money they spent on lobbying in the past five years. are you concerned that some of the issues, privacy issues, concerns about radiation might have been ignored by lawmakers who were so intensely lobbied? >> well, i think it requires a full evaluation. look, there's too much money in washington. most people know that. it is good that we know they did give them money and also a report that came out in "washington post" yesterday that said they can distort the images to make it look more like a fun house mirror than the actual image of the person and still have all the same safety issues there where they can see what might be on that person. so, there are precautions that could be taken. let's use a little common sense. 99.99% of all americans are not a threat. let's try to find a system that's going to, you know, let's target these terrorists with a rifle and not try to fish with a net and capture all of america
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when we do it. >> thank you for taking the time. happy thanksgiving. >> you have a great thanksgiving, too. well, sarah palin's book is hot off the press as it hits the shelves today. she's been everywhere promote it, but she won't talk to katie couric again. in an interview yesterday she said, "i will not waste my time with her." let's bring in our company. all right, megan, let me start with you. does this book help her? it seems like the road to the presidency always includes a book or two. president obama wrote one, jimmy carter, everybody seems to have a book. is this a good thing for her if she's really serious about becoming president? >> i think everybody does have a book, but when you look at the book that she has written, she's done two things. one is that she has really put herself in competition with obama. the book is mostly attacking a lot of the positions that obama has taken. it doesn't really give independent voters or even gop voters who are concerned about her credentials and concerned about some of the positions
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she's taking anything to really grab on and say, okay, this resolves my concerns. >> you know, bill, her book tour starts today in phoenix, i think she's going to iowa, ohio, states that you and i know very well from the campaign trail. she's not meeting with any party leaders, at least not that we know that have been planned. is this a campaign tour or book tour? >> she doesn't have to meet with leaders. she's taking a different route to the nomination, chris. look, i have to tell you, i think sarah palin is showing a lot of creativity and brilliance in her moves. she has figured out a way to have a number one cable television pay for her presidential ambitions. the money she's getting from fox and the money she's getting from the channel that's carrying her special on "sarah's alaska." >> tlc, their highest rated show ever. 5 million people. >> this book is just part of that continuing media blitz. she has the cable tv and the
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publishers paying for her to run for president. why does she have to meet with party leaders? that's like old-fashioned? she's taking a celebrity route to the white house. is she sort of forging a very different way toward the presidency because she calls people like katie couric the lame stream media. she's going, instead, to places like tlc where every week for an hour she has this very slickly produced show that looks like it could be an extended campaign ad. she's in the audience last night of "dancing with the stars" which i know you watched with wrapped attention and you're laughing, but, pat, i think you did watch it, right? >> i certainly watch that whole show. i never miss that. >> she was playing mother there, cheering for her daughter. is she forging a new way to a presidency? there was bristol palin in a cage which i should say is from "chicago" if people are taking that out of context. >> but you're exactly right,
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chris. she, what she called the lame stream media was hearsay and here's what sarah palin has to do after 2008 study her books and be a good dwugovernor and s saw herself confined. this could be another best seller. she doesn't have to talk to state chairman and people like that. she has an enormous following. they put her on the learning channel because she doubles the audience of the learning channel. they gave her money for a book because the publisher will make more money by publishing her book. she has herself something that no one else in politics and america has except maybe obama. an enormous national following that belongs to her alone. that following is her hope for the republican nomination. >> you know, one of the reviews of her show, michael, pointed out that her ratings on tlc are twice that of "mad men" which is an extremely popular show on the coast. there was an article, i don't
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know if you saw it in "l.a. times" what is she running for that quotes a republican strategist saying, i think the idea of a sarah palin candidacy is more attractive than the reality of one. is that true? >> if pat is willing to admit having watched "dancing with the stars" i will admit of watching both episodes of "sarah palin's alaska." i am probably the only one on the panel who loves "mad men" and thoroughly enjoys her tv show. >> i am very serious about that. what is it about the tv show that you like and do you think it helps her to run for president? >> that's a different question. i have literally been on the telephone with a travel agent inquiring about a summer vacation in alaska because, to me, first and foremost, it's a national geographic-like show about that state. i'm intransed by the wildlife, by the fishing. >> are you going to be beating fish. >> i'm fought going to beat the
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fish, but i eat halibut, i'll tell you that. here is the issue, here is the issue. when all is said and done no matter how successful the book and no matter how many watch the tv show, she does nothing to close the gap relative to a general election. she's absolutely able to be nominated by the gop. but how does she bridge the gap to win a competitive race? i don't see any solution to that for her. >> pat, there was an article that i saw today that asked the question, does "dancing with the stars" help sarah palin? not only does she have 5 million people watching her on her own show, but there are 20 million people over the course of two nights, so, i think it's probably 20 million one night and 20 million the other night if i'm getting these numbers right who see her because tonight is when we find out who actually won. do you think it helps her? >> i do. specifically for your reason. what did we see last night? we saw snips of sarah palin. here was a mom who was excited about her daughter who was in
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very tough competition, frankly on that dancing show. on the other hand, a lot of people look at that show and say it's exployitative, you know. that might hurt a bit. but, overall, i think she comes across, as you said, i saw some earlier scenes where she was there cheering and laughing for her daughter and, you know, talking to her about it and that comes off, i think it's maybe shultzy, but the american people like it. >> paul, do you think bristol palin has a chance to win? >> because of the constituency. >> i know you're all dying to get in there. we'll have a whole other chance to talk about that. in the meantime, megan, pat, bill, michael, thank you so much. so, details about what arguably will be the wedding of this young century. kate and will have picked a date. now, all they need to do is make the guest list. are you ready for the super bowl of shopping days? richard lui has your training.
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washington state is bracing for a blizzard. the storm comes a day after the state's first major snow storm of the season that knocked out power to tens of thousands of people and left at least three people dead. strong weather in the midwest, as well. spawning as many as seven tornadoes in wisconsin and illinois. take a look at this home video. a tornado touching down in northern illinois. five kids and a bus driver suffered minor injuries when their school bus was rolled on its side and then off the road.
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bill karins is here with the forecast and a lot of people travelling. millions and millions of people. >> this storm is a big storm and the tornadoes are done with and now just the huge winter mess in the west. you like to ski, it's powder. this is the shot live this morning as the sun is coming up over lake tahoe and they already picked up 50 inches of snowfall and going to be another foot today. they will have another four to six feet for the thanksgiving ski weekend. the highest snow totals they've seen this early in the year and not just them either. many other areas have seen a lot of snow. the radar and the white has all the snow and sacramento and just a cold rain for you in california, also including areas down around the bay eventually this afternoon. let's take you through the forecast here. we're expecting one to two feet additional snow in areas of utah. salt lake city under a blizzard warning and your worst conditions this afternoon and tonight and montana and idaho will also get nailed and still going to be cold enough in
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seattle that you may see some snow in the higher elevations. yesterday, seattle of all places had two inches. let's break down the travel forecast tomorrow, just rainy conditions for the most part in the ohio valley. chicago, minneapolis, a light mix for you and then for thanksgiving day, the rain nedz to the ohio valley and it looks like, chris, a very tough, close forecast for the thanksgiving day parade. i think the rain will hold off, though, and not come in until the parade is over. >> finishers crossed, thank you, bill. save the date, we're all very excited about this. the anticipated royal wedding will take place friday april 29th at westminster abbey. declaring the day a national holiday. ashley pierceten. >> it is everywhere, chris. you cannot open a magazine or turn on tv without hearing of
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this event. we saw this coming, but at the same time, a glamorous, young, royal couple about to get married and you put all those factors together and it is really must-see tv. everyone is excited. we now know it is going to be at westminster abbey. beautiful place with a lot of royal memories and something that everyone is talking about over here, certainly. >> i know westminster abbey was one of several choices they could have made. why this one? >> it's an interesting choice. the date is also interesting because a lot of people thought the wedding would be in july. britain has a form of devolved government. on the 5th of may there are scottish parliamentary elections and many thought the political would dominate the ceremonial. on friday the bookmakers stopped taking bets on a july wedding. it was almost a done deal. three sunday newspapers in the united kingdom on sunday said it would be a july wedding.
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of course, we were shocked by being in april. i think the abbey itself is an extraordinary building. >> it is so beautiful. >> 38 monarchs have been crowned. 38 kings and queens in consecutive order since 1066 in westminster abbey. it's better known, really, for funeral services and correlations than it is for weddings. so, there are a number of charles dickens is buried there, charles darwin. they're all buried there. there's also a very moving memorial inside westminster abbey. in november 1920 the remains of an unknown british soldier were brought back from france after the first world war ii and buried and there's now something called the tomb of the unknown soldier and it's a beautiful memorial, really, a very powerful symbol. of course, the other thing is prince williams' mother's
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funeral service took place in the same building. >> how nice, the site of such a celebration and, ashley, what might this celebration look like. we talked about the fact that the economy is down and they don't want to look tooa stentatious but it is going to be one heck of a wedding, isn't it? >> a lot of speculation over what dress kate will wear. she's very glamorous and tall and slim. her favorite designer of late a label she wore when she announced her engagement. that beautiful blue dress but deemed a little bit too sexy and also not a british designer, which she almost certainly will wear on her big day. kate's parents are splitting the cost of the wedding with the royal family. and one of the reasons, you know, you mention the economy, one of the reasons they chose westminster is even though it holds 2,000 people, it feels like a very intimate, almost parrish church it has an intimate, small feeling even though it is a big cathedral.
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they want it be sensitive to the economy, but they also want to make it about them. martin was mentioning about the dates. this is very much something that kate and william are planning together and, although, of course they will take into consideration his duties and obligations, i think it's very much going to be about them and their day. >> you know, i love that part of it. but can i just ask, everyone over there and all the articles i read kept talking about the fact that she comes from a middle class upbringing. how can her family afford to split the cost of this? >> i have to say, i think ashley is pushing the boat further than she can on that. i understand the royal family and the middletons are sharing the cost but i would imagine that they -- westminster abbey can hold 8,500 guests. the cost itself is going to be astronomical, but the taxpayers
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also picking up the cost of policing, security and additional transport because, obviously, a public holiday. >> they should. what did they say? like a billion dollars into the british economy. i went looking for the dress, i couldn't find it. one over there you could find for me, ashley? >> absolutely. you could get a knockoff now online for 34 pounds. i know your size, i'm all over it. they're making a knockoff of the ring for 400 pounds almost identical copy of diana's engagement ring being worn by kate. everyone is all over this now. she is a beautiful girl and decrete through these eight years and proved herself, again and again, a worthy bride. they are apparently over the moon. two happier people have never existed according to insiders and it seems like the day has finally come. i think everyone here is just happy for both of them. >> we all are. ashley, martin, thanks to both
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getting first word from the president about this north korean situation. they fired dozens of artillery shells on a south korean island. south korea's president called a meeting of his national security council and we're hearing from president obama that he does plan to speak to south korea's president about the situation. he believes north korea is not living up to its obligations that north korea has a history of provocative acts. we'll continue to follow this developing and escalating story for you here on msnbc.
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but, how about this because it's just plain creepy. you know those video monitors that a lot of parents are using to make sure their kids are safe. well, apparently, they could cause problems. take a look at what wnbc's tom yamas discovered in a report that should really make all parents and caregivers think twice. >> reporter: it l it took was five minutes. from the moment we powered on a baby monitor and drove through this long island neighborhood, we were able to peek into crib after crib after crib. this is one of the better ones we found so far. you can look right into that crib. the blanket, the bottom of the crib and even details of the woodwork. some empty and some not. and we could do more than just look into these homes. with our baby monitor, we could also listen in. at this home we heard someone talking to a lawyer, that someone was mcnulty and we
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showed her what we could see and hear from our car parked outside. >> i had no clue. >> reporter: there's nothing special about the baby monitor we bought, just $99, but it exposes the danger many parents are bringing into their homes. >> there's a lot of child pedophiles out there and you never know which house they're living in in the area. >> reporter: not just perverts but also burglars. >> knows every conversation you're having and what time you're leaving the house for dinner or for the wedding that night and knows when you're going to be home and knows when you're fought going it be home. >> reporter: detective sergeant ross knows about surveillance. he runs the nassau county electronic squad. membery baby monitors transmit sound and video on a very simple frequency, too simple. >> the problem is in that common frequency range, most of the baby monitors on the market only have four channel options. >> reporter: many of the more
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affordable options don't have a digital lock so if it's on, it's transmitting hundreds of feet outside of your home. >> you can see the whole crib, the baby's toy and everything. >> reporter: when this toddler popped up on our monitor, it wasn't too hard for us to find the exact location. my name is tom, i am a reporter with channel 4. do you have a baby? >> yes. >> reporter: do you have baby monitor? >> yes. >> reporter: is that your baby? >> yes, it is. >> reporter: what do you think about that? >> little scary. don't know what to say at the moment. i'm watching him move and you're watching him in the car. >> reporter: this father turns off the receiver when he's not using the baby monitor but leaves on the camera, big mistake. >> we turn off our monitor, but we don't turn off that. so, they would know if we're home or not. scary. really scary. >> to say the least, that was wnbc tom yamas reporting. a nationwide drug shortage not seen in 30 years leaving a lot of folks without options. we'll look at what's being done
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we have just this second learned that the five-year search for missing alabama teenager natalee holloway will continue. a jawbone found on a beach in aruba where she was last seen alive is not hers. those dna results just came in. joining me on the phone is former fbi profiler and msnbc analyst clint van zandt and it almost seems like after five years it will take a break like this that something is found by a tourist on a beach or some piece of evidence and it almost seems like everything has turn under to a dead end. >> well, it will take a break, chris. as you know from the very beginning and since natalee's disappearance on may 30th of 2005. for most people there have only been three prime suspects. the two brothers and joran van der sloot the young dutch man held in jail charged with the
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murder of yet another young woman. i think over the years, chris, you've covered this as good as anyone. there have been bones found and clothing found. we remember last year there was an underwater formation that was photographed that someone might have been her remains and every time it's been, as you suggested, a dead end. and, of course, for a story like this, there is no good answer for natalee's mother, beth holloway. if it was her remains that means her daughter is dead. she understands that is a distinct pocket bssibility but parent and loved one you always hold on hope that that person is still alive. but in this case, as you suggest, the investigation continues and the person who seems to hold that answer joran van der sloot, i think the only way we're ever going to get it from him is he'll try to play let's make a deal and try to get himself out of a murder charge
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in a peruvian jail. chris, i don't think that is going to happen. >> clint, thank you very much. once again, that breaking news. we were waiting for the dna results on a jawbone and a tooth found on a beach in aruba and that information is in it is not natalee holloway. now to a shocking and little reported story about a shortage of drugs including reports of some cancer patients being turned away from scheduled chemotherapy. that happened to a woman in minneapolis and she's not alone. because we're in one of the worst u.s. drug shortages in decades and hospitals all over the country are actually running out of medicine. chief medical editor nancy snyderman joins me now. how bad is this? >> this is insidious and our affiliate in minneapolis has done a good job looking at this and pointing people to the fda and the fd has been transparent and there is a laundry list of -- >> it goes on and on and on. >> you start to see patterns of
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certain kind of drugs and raises the question why in a country like this would there be shortages and a couple reasons. manufacturing delays where they'll hold a drug manufacturing problems or may have a voluntary recall. sometimes companies might say, well, is it cost effective enough for us to keep producing a certain type of drug. but the bottom line is, a doctor may become acustom for prescribing a certain drug for patient. one day you come in and it's not available and that's when the mix and matching takes place. not always a good scenario for the patient. >> no, especially if you're going through something like cancer and it's chemotherapy which is nerve wracking enough as it is. even to say we'll have it in three days or to say there's another alternative to the drug we've been given here. >> sometimes the drugs are an alternative. medicine you've been on for your cancer, but you'll have to wait another three days, to a cancer patient that could be, an unbelievable length of time. but if you're going under
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anesthesia and the doctor has substituted medicine which is like what you're supposed to get but not as accustomed to it or has a slightly different reaction in you, it may mean that an outpatient procedure becomes an overnight operation. these little ripple effects are things that the faa will, frapg ly, have to jump on. >> what kind of questions if you're a patient would you ask in this situation in. >> this medication that you prescribed me, is there enough of it and your hospital has enough of it? go to the fda website and if it's one you're on a routine cycle, look, i know this is the drug you use on me. are you going to have it because, if not, i will pay ahead of time, move up my course. start thinking proactively. i hate saying that because it shouldn't be on the patient, but using the fda website is a good
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starting point. >> happy thanksgiving, dr. nancy snyderman. >> happy thanksgiving to you, chris. we have been waiting for this information. a jawbone found on a beach in aruba. dna tested. it is not that of natalee holloway. so, five years after the teenager disappeared on a school trip it still remains a mystery. there's a big idea happening in medicare
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family member away during the holidays. well, the midterm elections are behind us, but if recent history is any judge, that doesn't mean respect and decorum have been returned to capitol hill. >> the reforms i'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally. >> the gentleman will observe regular order and sit down. i will not. >> well, we haven't seen all the brawls in congress like we have in, for example, south korea's parliament. what did happen to civil discourse? has it gone completely from public life? joining me now, richard dreyfus who just recorded a book called "america the beautiful" by the poet and philosopher and also here his partner in the project a philanthropist and was a student. thank you very much. great of you both to be here. richard, i'm interested, what got you into this whole topic? i told you as i was following
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politics i think there was a point and i'm not sure when it was that it became more okay for it to be more personal, louder, more divisive than it used to be. >> there are stories being told around washington and new york right now about staffers from ted kennedy's office who have breakfast every morning with strom thurmond's staff and none of that happens any more. republicans don't talk to democrats. democrats don't talk to republicans. and when they do, they talk about them in a demonizing, yelling, rude way and when the state of the union address or especially address by the president is interrupted by someone yelling liar, you know that we're not exemplifying any kind of politeness or civility and, ultimately, you have to have civility in the democracy because if you don't, you're not
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sharing anything and you can't know what the other person is thinking if you've interrupted him and not let him finish his thought. >> well, what's the point of the book? do you think civility is something we can teach? >> absolutely. as a matter of fact, by teaching civics, which is the, which in my terms, is, it is the teaching of practical, political power and how to run and maintain this particular republican democracy. and it certainly can be taught. it was taught for many, many years. we just fell into a hole of unreason and senselessness. we now accept as reality senseless things like wars that don't have senate oversight hearings or, in my business, the list of ten films, ten most
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popular movies is always the ten most, made most money that week. when gone with the wind cost a quarter and "avatar" cost $15, that list is a meaningless list if someone asked for a list of how many seats were sold. how many seats, how many tickets were sold, then you'd get a list that told you something. the list that's now, it means that people are not demanding any kind of critical thinking. and especially because of television means so pervasive and so persuasive. >> so, what is the message of this book? >> the message really is how much do we love our country? how much do we understand the roots of our country? we saw in the last mid-term election that various parties kind of co-opted a certain message of patriotism. this book is nonpartisan, but it
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delves into the roots of our country. hamilton and jefferson were at daggers drawn, but at the end of the day they loved our country and they were willing to overcome their differences for the good of the country. without that spirit of cooperation, it's just a show of ego. >> well, the book is out now and it's the audio version of this is out now. >> what's important about the book is that it emplifies in the reading of the book a certain, mature patriotism. and what we have to do revive is that substantive patriotism that the teaching of the american history and the teaching of civics was. that means you have to know what was so revolutionary about our revolutionary war and why was it different in other governments and why we were the most admired country in the world for almost 200 years. and have spent that and we have to get it back. and i would say that every
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history teacher who can hear what i'm saying now should put up a little statement on the wall of the history classes in high schools all over the country and you can pose this as a question or as a statement. you can say, how can we get a more substantive hold on the tools of excellence that are needed to run this republican democracy before it is our turn to run this republican democracy. how do we do that? make the statement that says we want a more rigilous traorous t and how to run this country before it's our turn it run this country because we're told we can't afford it and saying we can't afford to educate our kids to the most fundamental principles of what makes this country different is absurd, wrong, stupid and self-destructive. >> there is no doubt that that
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so it if nobody puts baby in a corner, how come bristol palin is dancing in a cage? last night on dancing with the stars, the final three put it all out there and bristol tried to recreate that iconic number from chicago. she got the low he est scores. like her mom, bristol took aim at the people who say she can't do it.
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>> it sucks that people still don't think i deserve to be here. >> brandy and max. >> people freaked out once we got saved and brandy was eliminated. we're continuing to improve week by week. and people don't acknowledge that. >> let's bring in our company. so the controversy over whether she deserves to be in the finals is so big it's even the subject of a new poll, pat. 54% said she's a finalist because of her mom, 14% say it's because she's one of the best dancers. you watched last night. what did you think? >> i watched some of the earlier ones, i think she's probably one of the most improved dance, and she's really making an evident, but i have to say is it joe gray's daughter is phenomenal and the other fellow sch more fluid, but she's improved. that's exactly right, the enormous following her mom has is the reason why people are
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calling in and saying palin was number one. >> look at that, wow. geez, that was well timed. >> i don't think noticed all that. what do you think? you're laughing, but she has improved a lot. i have to admit, i only watched the very first one and then i watched most of last night. she's improved a lot. >> she's improved a lot, but that's not the question. look, first of all -- >> it's not a most improved award, is that what you're say something. >> exactly. but let's be honest. first of all, i'm so tired of people playing the victim. nobody hates bristol palin. but there are certain truths here we have to admit. number one, she only got on the show because she's sarah palin's daughter. number two, she's only still there because her supporters admit that they cheated. they rigged the system and they encouraged other people to do so. and number three, pat is right, she's just simply not as good a
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dancer as jennifer gray. so if it's decided tonight on talent, jennifer gray wins. if it's decided tonight on cheating, bristol wins. >> is it cheating if it's a popularity contest? >> no, they've pointed out that they have told people you don't have to have a valid e-mail, you can make anything up as long as you make sure you're old enough to vote and people have voted 300 times. >> i have to give megan the last word. >> i think that if it's a popularity contests, all these shows are. but that's why they figure t judges' scores in. >> who was the guy that shot the tv with the gun? >> the host said if you don't like the yououtcome, don't shoo your tv. >> i promise not to shoot my tv. >> thanks to all of you. >> all right, thanks. that will do it for me.
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