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also men who claim to be mostly straight. what does that mean? we'll find out. but first, are we on the verge of war? wow. let's get started. the tensions are mounting in the korean peninsula. south korea's president put his country's military on alert and ordered strikes on north korea if the north takes any further provocative action. this morning north korea fired dozens of shells in the south korean island, killing two of the soldiers. this occurred during a reteen military exercise by the south. exercises that the north had been informed of. still that led to an exchange of fire on both sides and sparked a global diplomatic crisis. is it on? are they going to war? the marketed here dropped to news of the war today. some think this could end up disastrously. jim miklaszewski is at the pentagon. first, tell us how bad this is.
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does it threaten to blow up to a full-blown war, or is it contained? >> all we have to do is listen to the response from u.s. military officials who called it provocative and alarming and the state zeept called this action stunning. will it lead to a full-blown war? the u.s. military and pentagon officials i've been talking to say that every effort is going to be made to try to avoid that. and they are counseling their south korean partners in the military ramifications and that -- not that the south koreans don't realize it, but also the possibilities. i can tell you this. we are told that so far no -- not a single u.s. military service member, not a single weapon airplane ship has been repositioned toward north korea or in south korea at all, and to back up any kind of u.s. response to this. now could the south koreans make
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good on their pledge to launch some kind of response? they could, but their history shows that they haven't so far in spon response to this kind of provocation from north korea. the fear, of course, cenk, as you said, is could this lead to a full-blown war, and right now pentagon and military officials don't think so. if in fact the response to this provocation remains measured, as some have called it. >> jim, if we go to war or south korea goes to war, does that automatically mean that the united states is going to war? will we definitely back them up? >> well, the white house again when they condemned the statement from the white house this morning condemning this provocation and this attack by the north koreans also reaffirmed the u.s. support. military support for the south koreans. if, in fact, there were a war between north and south, the u.s. military, quite frankly the u.s. government, the american
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people are committed to backing up south korea. we're so committed to iraq and afghanistan, obviously it would not be a good day for us. is that why north korea keeps pushing south korea and us? because they think you can't respond. >> the previous chairman of the joinlt chiefs of staff had warned the u.s. military was stretched so thin by the wars of iraq and afghanistan, that we couldn't respond ro bustly to any kind of serious threat from south korea to north korea at the time. that's stressed on the u.s. forces hasn't diminished that much. it would be very difficult, and quite frank ly the north korean have dug in positions, and position artillery rockets,
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missiles, even position to chemical and biological warfare agents on the dmz that there aren't enough missiles and bombs in the military arsenal to take all those out in a timely manner if in fact both sides went to full-blown war, which according to the u.s. military, officials we're talking to really does appear unlikely. >> all right. let's hope they're right. let's really, really hope they're right. thank you. nbc's pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski, of course. now the president often gets criticized by wall street mill airs and billionaires for not being sufficiently probusiness. meaning they won't lower taxes unless regulation. so it most have come as some surprise when he opened a letter from a group of millionaires who instead of insisting the president extend thaur bush tax cuts, this group of very wealthy americans asked the president not to extend our cuts, but rather to let them expire on anyone making a million bucks or
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more. everyone from hedge fund meangs to the cofounder of ben & jerry's ice cream signed a letter saying we have done very well over the last several years. now, during our nation's most moment of need, we are eager to do our fair share. we don't need more tax cuts. which millionaires did not sign the letter? this 50% of house and senate members who are, you guessed it, millionaires. now compare that to the general u.s. population where fewer than 1% are millionaires. those guys didn't sign on, of course, but these guys did. john cassman is editor of the princeton review and ce or of the 4m corporation. they both signed the letter to the president. it's a great pleasure to have you guys here. and it's a very brave thing that you did, which is fantastic. why do you want to get taxed more? >> i think the wealthy have done really well for the past decade.
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in fact, they're the only group that have done really well. everybody has to take their fair share at this point. we're just say, willing to step up. >> right. dennis, how do you think it affects business? the republicans will say, hey, you know what, you guys are the job creators. we need to get you more money so you'll hire more people. is it a that simple? or do the tax cuts affect you differently? >> just not true. particularly if you raise the threshold from 250 to the administration many democrats are supporting to the millions of dollars chuck schumer recommended as a benchmark. you get ordinary personal income to individuals who own businesses at a million dollars and above and to suggest that 3% or 4% in their personal income tax rate will have any impocket on how they operate their business is frankly nonsense. >> let me go to that.
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talk about uncertainly, i don't want to make money until i figure out my taxes. i own a small business, too. we do fairly well. i never thought i'm not going to make money until they lower taxes. has that crossed your guys' minds? >> i think changing around the tax code is not a good thing. make change slowly and leave it alone whenever possible. the fact is the bush tax cuts were unnecessary. we weren't asking for them. they've been a huge good thing financially, but glad to see them go. >> and does it possiblily, dennis, hurt your guys and everybody's long-term prospects if the deficit is so out of whack and the tax cuts for million -- >> now you're in the heart of the issue. the question is what is in the national interest. if beginning the process of thinking of paying our bills as a country chrks is what this does, people talk about $700
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billion over ten years. honestly, at the fiscal place we are right now, it's material. but it's certainly not the full solution. when you put it in context where 30 years ago we were paying 83% effective tax rate if you lived in new york. 91% back in the '50s. reagan restructured taxes into the mid-30s or whatever it was. another 3% or 4% now. if it's in the national interest. we have suppressed interest rates now because of specific governmental actions. but we're not going to live with this forever. people are going to charge us more for the money we need to borrow. i'm in industry. i can do better in my business. if the country is going down the tubes, the fact that i saved 3% on personal income is shernly not helpful to me in my manufacturing business. >> bill clinton raised taxes by
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a little bit. but the economy boomed so much, that the rich made more money. >> there was a reason for that. he raised my marginal tax rate from 36% to 39%. cost me personally several hundred thousands a year. i'm not quite in my colleague's category. my cost of capital when wall street decided the government was thinking of paying its bills dropped 300 basis points. that's 3% to your viewers. and over the '90s i was carrying debt of $900 million. so the reduced cost of capital in my business, and spread that across the economy, business boomed. now we're in a different play taste. but fundamentally. if we begin to do things that are responsible, then the country is going to do better. business is going to do better. industry is going to do better. i'm convinced of it. >> the proof is in the pudding. 22 million jobs created. at the end of the bush years. less than a million jobs created.
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it was a huge difference. let me ask you about this. as a small business owner, if my personal income taxes are high, i'm motivated. so you guys run bigger business. i'm motivated to keep the money in my business as opposed to taking it out and then paying a higher personaling in tax. if my taxes are lower, personal income taxes, i'm motivated to take the money out. does having higher taxes actually lead you to keep more money in your business? >> it may well. the fact is when you lower taxes, all you do is bid up the cost of bmws. you're only paying taxes on the profit. further investment is to everybody's benefit. so i don't buy that any jobs will get lost with a small increase to the wealthy. >> right. so, look. and let's talk about the other
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guys. there's a lot of millionaires spending money to make sure they get their sons into office to cut taxes. you guys say it's your patriotic duty to pay your fair share. are they being unpatriotic? >> i'm not going to cast dispersions on anyone else's motives. people can have an argument on any side of an issue. but where i think they are misguided is the fiscal situation that the country faces. and to suggest that somehow we're going to be able to get back into some reasonable balance without any sacrifice. it just doesn't make any sense. so we have to determine whether we want to pursue our short-term self interest or the long-term best interest of the nation as a whole on the theory that we and our children and our grandchildren can continue do well in the country and find a way to prosper.
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that's where we are. so they have their point of view. but i could not disagree with it more. i think it's frankly short sided and just incorrect. >> john and dennis. great conversation. two guys who are literally millionaires saying we need to raise the tooxs for the good of the country and the good of the economy. it's a brave argument to make. we really appreciate you guys joining us. >> good to be with you. >> thank you. now, are republicans honest players, or are they just trying to hurt the president? and is america done, or are we going to roar back? plus get a load of this, a shockingly high number of college students willing to turn to prostitution. an i get ya? i'd like one of those desserts and some coffee. sure, decaf or regular? - regular. - cake or pie? - pie. - apple or cherry? cherry. oil or cream? oil or cream? cream... please. when other toppings are made with hydrogenated oil, the real dairy cream in reddi-wip's sure an easy choice.
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deficit. we want to limit russia's nukes, we have to limit our own. that's the reality public party is facing along with the president as they share responsible for stewardship of this country. some are calling out the gop for wanting to have it both ways and being irresponsible by not making hard choices. we bring in matt lewis, a blogger with politics daily.com and mark walsh, the host of left jab on serious xm radio. mark, let me start with you. the obvious question here is how can you have lower taxes and balance the budget at the same time? everybody is talking about it costs $700 billion more. doesn't that seem irresponsible or contradictory? >> no. i think it's a matter of philosophy. everybody in the country agree wes need to get the economy going, we just happen to disagree on the worst things you could do to raise taxes.
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but we do need to cut spending. we have a $1.4 trillion deficit obviously off the track. it had a lot to do with republicans winning the house this november. >> matt, look. there's a 100 different places the republicans don't want to cut spending. they say i want to balance the budget, but on the nuclear stockpile, jon kyl says i want to build it higher. he's talking millions of dollars in more nukes. isn't that inconsistent? >> i think you're talking about the star treaty, right? one thing to keep in the mind is the game of political chicken both sides are playing. both sides are playing politics with it now. >> that's not really true. i'm being honest now. i'll call out the democrats in a second, all right. but president obama negotiate ad treaty they're perfectly happy to sign. there's no politics there. the republicans are blocking it. either because jon kyl wants more for his campaign contributors to get richer off
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more nuclear weapons we build, or because he wants to make sure the president doesn't get anything. i really don't see the democrats playing politics here. >> i think they did. here's why. during the negotiations president obama essentially cut out the republicans from any sort of negotiations. you have not just jon kyl, but you have moderates in ohio who not even coming back, who say, look, let's not do this during a lame duck session. that's what half the argument is about, frankly, about the senate's royal in advice and consent and the fact they want to push this through during lame duck as opposed to actually during the next year's legislative session. >> that's not what republican senator richard luger says. jon kyl is throwing up a new roadblock. i want to let mark get in on this conversation. how do you respond to what matt is say sng. >> well, you're making a lot of my case. i'll make it hopefully more
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forcefully. i respect what matt is sayi ing but i violently disagree. let's be clear here. national and global security have never been a partisan issue. that goes back for many years. and suddenly jon kyl has decided to make national and global security a partisan issue. point number one. point number two, for him to decide these millions of dollars needs to be funded by savings elsewhere, forget the tax cuts, just the military spending alone. and i would like to remind my republican friends across the aisle that national security was not a security when the republican support that he saw. when major members of the international community are supporting this, i think it's
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shameless. >> let me make this point, though. as far as i know historically i don't believe we've had any sort of treaty deal or something of this magnitude decided during a lame duck session. although both sides are playing politics there are real substantive issues to discuss. things like missile defense that a lot of republicans argue weakened stark treaty. things like launch systems that could be cut. >> matt, you know those are excuses. >> now come on. get out of here. you know those are excuses. what difference does it make if it passes in a lame duck or later? the difference is you get more republicans who want more nuclear missiles built for whatever reason. i have to go onto the second issue. look, unemployment. matt, let me stay with you real quick here. we have an issue where republicans say we have to deal with the budget here. but i still want to gi tax cuts to the rich. does that make shens? >> well, here's the deal, cenk.
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as usual we disagree philosophically. we all want americans to get back to work. i'm willing to bet all of us have friends and family members out of work. we have $1.4 trillion deficit. this would add $12 billion to the deficit. that means raising taxes which i believe ultimately means less jobs. right now a person could be unemployed and getting unemployed benefits for two years. at what point does this end? at what point do we quit paying people to not work? >> mark, i have to give you the last word. it's a fair question. at what point? isn't two years enough? >> well that's a dog whistle phrase you just heard. what we're asking for is for those tax cuts to expire as the law suggests. to suggest that $14 billion in
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holiday season is in the worst recession/depression in the last 50 years is suddenly the most important financial decision we could be making is wrong. we have to extend the benefits. people are out of work. this is an extraordinary time. i would suggest the fiscal conservatism suddenly erupting in the republican party makes me giggle just a little bit. >> we end on giggling. thank you, matt lewis and mark walsh. very good spirited conversation. is america doomed to go the way of the greek and roman empires? if not, what is the redemption? ah, this is just what the eight layers needed. hey guys. sorry we're late. milk looks warm. finally got the whole gang together. maple brown sugar, strawberry delight, blueberry muffin. yeah, a little family reunion. [ wind rushes ] whoa! whoa! whoa! whoa! we're cereal here! what? just cooling it down. enough said. gotcha. safety first. whoo-hoo! watch the whole grain! [ female announcer ] try kellogg's® frosted mini-wheats® hot. just add warm milk and you've got a hot way
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this is your cnbc market wrap. let's look at how stocks are doing today. we have seen a sharp selloff across the board. 17 points to the downside. the nasdaq up by 40. the congress department is giving thanks ahead of the thursday holiday. the economy grew slightly faster last summer than first thought. that is thanks to stronger overseas sales of u.s. goods as
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well as americans spending on cars and big ticket items. the gross domestic product increased in the 2.5% annual rate. the bad news, sales of previously owned homes slipped more than expected in october. the national realtors association posed to delay foreclosures and stripped the lending standards. and delta is considering refunds for passengers who cancel travel plans because of concerns over the new airport security measures. delta is working on a case-by-case basis. they all say they cannot control security procedures. so as far as their tickets go, nonrefundable means just that. that is it from cnbc right now. cenk, it's back over to you. >> wild weather is moving across the country just as we approach the thanksgiving holiday. in washington state a vicious storm closed schools and
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businesses. the big question is what to expect from the weather the next few days. so chris warren is joining us from the weather chabl nnnel. chris? >> we do have some tricky spots. this is a map with threat for wintery weather. this is a blizzard warning for utah, parts of colorado and montana. we'll adds winds as the arctic front plunges to the south and to the east. we'll see nasty conditions coming up in a few hours in salt lake city. here's what's going on. we have one line of showers working from the lower mississippi valley all the way to the northeast. it will be moving the through by tomorrow. the snow we're seeing now will likely cause problems on the roads throughout much of the day tomorrow as the system moves off. so here we go.
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thanksgiving eve. the forecast for tomorrow. the area of low pressure right here could make messy conditions throughout parts of iowa into parts of minnesota. we're talking about the potential for freezing rains. that would mean prescription freezing on contact with the ground, which makes things very slippery. so your wednesday forecast, high temperature barely above freezing in minneapolis. this pink color we could see a wintery mix. very possibly dangerous conditions. seattle is looking nice. still extremely cool. temperatures are going to run in the lower 30s. barely making it to the freezing mark in saels. taking a look from memphis, st. louis, nashville, the cross hairs if for threat of severe weather. so we could see possibly damaging winds and very heavy rain. so this is going to be one of the situations we're dealing with as the system moves out of the east and another one starts to move in here. a chance for some thunderstorms taking us into thursday. taking a look at what we're talking about as far as the other side of things. we're going to take you back now
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and talk about the cold, cold temperatures we are expecting to see. so this is for today. temperatures with highs only in the 20s for seattle. this low could potentially cause problems in the middle part of the country. it will be making its way further and further east on thanksgiving. back to you. >> the weather channel's chris warren. thank you. here's what i'm going to guess. freezing rain. snow is fun. freezing rain doesn't help anybody. is america going to hell in a handbag? according to my next guest, all is not lost yet. after all, we have been here before. the civil war, the depression, the world wars, the vietnam, civil rights, the cold war and september 1th all brought dire warnings about the end of america. but we survived, recovered and
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thrived. let's talk to jim fal llows. let me ask you about the prooifs times in american history. do people think it's as bad today? maybe worse? how do we recover? >> there's been a lot of perceived times. the civil war is worse than the country went through before or since. when i was working for jimmy carter, there was a sense of national gloom then. in the 1960s, we had a serious of assassinations. 1930s, ten years of economic hard times. so this is a useful perspective to bare in mind. >> i read your piece. we have great things going for america that's going to help us in the long run. we've been through terrible stuff before. i disagree with you on some
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parts. let's have that conversation. i think some things have dramatically changed. i would point to our manufacturing base basically disappearing. there was a great article about how the average male worker in the last 20 years works 100 hours more. the average female worker works 200 hours more throughout the course of a year. we've taken out $2.3 trillion from our homes. we're done. the base is gone. that's what we're worried about. i've got other issues. but let's talk about that first. >> sure. to say we have resilience doesn't mean we have no problems. it is true in the last 20 years there's been pressure on the the middle in every sense of american life. the middle class ease of american life had been under pressure. we had an extreme of income that we haven't seen for probably 100 years. so those are genuine issues.
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we can both say that america has resourceful capacities as universities are strong. there are things we need to address. especially in the middle class prospects for america. >> how do we address this? generally speaking i agree with you on education. but when you look at our politics, here's the argument for why it's different. there's always been corruption. there's always been guys who put $90,000 in the freezer. we have systemic corruption now. which i think was brought about in the late 1970s, early 1980s when we said you can spend as much money as you would like and basically buy our politicians. so i don't think our politicians represent us. so they don't have an interest in fixing this. they have an interest in furthering the monopoly of the
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guys getting money from the system. >> i have a slightly different route to a similar conclusion. through american politics, the corruption of washington was if anything as bad as it is now. before this they were more or less directed by corporations then. there was a cutting out the middleman approach then. so political corruption is bad now and has been bad at many points in american life. where i would agree with you that we have a real problem, many mechanics are out of date in the way we don't allow kompgss to look at the senate. there was only a ten to one difference between the biggest and smallest states with two senators. now it's 70-1. and it's made it easier. so we're agreeing there are
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important structural issues of corruption, of fair chances for the average american, we're just talking about the right way to deal with them. >> then let's get to the heart of it. how do we fix it? if we're going to make it back. and we're not so dependent on the banks taking crazy risks, don't we need our representatives to represent us? and if we don't have that because of the systemic corruption we talked about, what's our hope? >> our hope is something that i think you and i in different ways are both trying to approach in hoping that public officials will do, too, in seeing that the prospects of the average american, the way in which that person and his or her family can have prosfecpects for their children, they need to be more directly talked about in our political system. in our media, in our school ls. we can try to have the media focus on what the situation is for the average person in
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america. that's been the real step backwards in the last generation here. >> i would do that, plus, i would rip down the current political system. hold these politicians accountable. part of the way we get out of the depression, et cetera, was somebody like roosevelt. it doesn't have to be just one person coming and saying no, we're going to change the way things are done. we have to hold their feet to the fire. >> yes. of course the people who are arguing that now mainly are the pea party people. i personally don't agree wth their solutions for things. it would be nice to have the same sentiment of hostility to the way things are rigged now. but channel it to a more progressive view of how the mainstream of americans can have a better share of the country's wealth. >> i couldn't agree more. that's why i hold out some hope for the tea party. obviously you have strands of it not productive, but at least
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they're holding politicians accountable to some gree for the moment being and the progressives should do that more and join forces. they come from the right. o the other guys come from the left. they're not going to help us. until we change that, i think it's tough to change everything else. >> sometimes i dealists are mocked in american life. but as an id listic pitch you made that i would support. >> there we go. agreement again. >> james, interesting piece. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> now all that turkey and gravy may not be healthy. but one part of thanksgiving is excellent for your health. and what does it mean to be mostly straight? is it a new trend? plus more and more americans, college students would be willing to accept any decent proposal. we'll tell you how many students are willing to go into the sex
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a new trend is slowly emerging among young men who said they are attracted to women and other men. but they say they're not gay or even bisexual. according to the good men project, it's a story that's generated the most interest on their sight. they say they're somewhere between heterosexuality and bisexuality, but not identifying with either side. they call themselves mostly straight. just fascinating. rebecca dana is joining me now, senior correspondent for the daily beast rchlty buying it?
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>> absolutely. it's reflective of a larger trend we've seen in culture where young people are defining their sexuality less rigidly. it's reflective of how out of touch the obama administration and other folks are who are so opposed to repealing don't ask, don't tell. are we going to have don't ask, don't tell me you're a little bit gay? >> are you gay? no. bisexual? no. transgender? no. >> there are all different theorys of sexuality. one is it exists on a spectrum. i think younger and younger people are looking at this and saying why do i have to say that i'm straight? why do i have to say that i'm bisexual? why can't i just bettract who i'm attracted to? >> i thought i came up with the spectrum theory. i think it's fairly obvious. the new trend is 3% to 4% of
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young people now in canada and america saying, we're mostly straight. so it's another category. so you have another 3% or 4% who say i'm mainly into chicks, but i'm a little into dudes. is na a good thing they're being so honest? >> i'm not sure this is a change in body chemistry. i think it has more to do with an atmosphere of tolerance that we're seeing more and more as people are more openly gay and younger people can feel more comfortable with what they feel. >> some college students are finding a new way to pay for the high rocketing cost of education. they're taking jobs in the sex industry. nearly 16.5% of undergraduate students say they would definitely consider working in the sex industry. a whopping 93% said the money would be the motivation. so of course.
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of course they're it for the money. but 16.5%, isn't that gigantic? >> i think there are two things going on. the skyrocketing excost and the normalization of porn industry. it's not as ostracized as maybe it was 10 or 20 years ago. >> are you saying this because of kim kardashian? >> absolutely. 100%. i also think that maybe people are just more willing to admit these things. >> do you think 16.5% were doing sex industry before? >> it's the oldest profession in the world. it's the oldest way to pay off your student loans in the world also. >> is that another function? the schools cost so much f you don't want to be an endangered servant, this is one oaf the few ways to pay it off. >> it pays a lot more than going into the nonprofit sector. people are facing student loans of $100,000, or $200,000. it pays a lot of money to get on
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the stripper poll. >> it's not just girls. it's girls and guys. although, the clients tend to be almost all male. of course. so one more topic. how grateful are you for the thing this is your life? the anxious is important because giving thanks is not just a good thing to do. it's good for you. from adults to children, the list of benefits for grateful people is impressive. grateful adults earn more money. they sleep better and have greater resistance to viral infections. it helps your health. and kids you feel gratitude get better grades and set higher goals. in my experience. totally true. this is the one thing you really have to teach your kids if you want them to be happy dochlt you agre . do you agree with that? >> the study said it's easier for the body to slide into a pessimist state.
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it requires more strength of will to have a positive outlook. and especially this time of year when people are feeling the cold weather, the darkness. it's nice to have the attitude of gratitude to get you through the day. >> the folks at home did a study where they ask adults or kids to tell me something they're grateful for, at the end of the day they literally had better health. so something to be thankful for. ironic? no, appropriate. rebecca dana. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> next, are the tsa skeiners at the airport for your security? are you sure? what if you found out how much our politicians are getting paid to put them there? our place. and we're learning that what happens in one part of it affects all of us. we're chevrolet. and with the all-new plug-in volt and other energy-saving vehicles,
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as opposed to our interests. you may have heard me talk act how politicians are representative of the lobbiests who pay them. today, another example of that. the tsa scanners have been in the news a lot lately. but did you know how they came to be at the airports? the two companies that produced the great majority of the scanners convinced congress they were necessary. one of the ways was by doubling their lobbying budget over the last five years. now, they have spent over $4.5 million to lobby our politicians in just the last nine months. not even the whole year. and look. more full body scanners at airports. amazing how lobbying works. some are convinced the machines emit too much radiation or are too revealing. knowing our politicians got grease with over $4 million to
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buy those, do you feel safer? one of the guys who convinced them to buy the scanners is michael chertoff. who would know better than the former homeland security? he now represents one of the top scanner manufacturers. another way our government gets bought. once people retire, they can get big bucks for government favors or approval. if that wasn't diskournging enough, one more angle here. representative john micah of florida is trying to take advantage of complaints about the pat downs trying to convince companies to private security. turns out, private security would have to do the same exact procedures as the tsa guards. but the executives of the private companies would get to take home an extra profit off the top. funny how that works, now, are you going to be surprised to
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find out that according to the associated press, governor micah has collected millions over the past few years at private security firms and airports. we called his office and they say that money was collected over a long period of time, so it's not as bad as it looks. the tsa was not around for that whole time. but the drive to hire private security at airports has been around the whole period and the fact he's been taking money from those firms the whole time is hardly reassuring. does anyone think they would be this motivated to push private security minus the money? this is how our democracy is bought. it's not necessarily that the politicians are bad people, it's just that the system is structured that they work for the people who pay them. if it's the lobbiests who pay them, that's who get the favors
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and private security contracts. discouraging, but it's going to be all right. we've got thanksgiving around the corner. i'm an optimistic guy. that's our show for this thursday. tuesday. catch me anytime at the youngturks.com. "the dylan ratigan show" is excellent and it's up next. ring ring ring ring
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good afternoon to you. my name is dylan ratigan. little crisis in the korean peninsula. an attack by north korea last night sending shock waves across the globe, escalating tensions along the world's most militarized border, getting the attention of china, japan and the entire western world. and the newest heavy weight on the world stage. will china step
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