a minimum of 175 years. he's currently in prison at the el dorado correctional center outside wichita. he was ineligible because of the death penalty because kansas did not reinstate capital punishment until 1994, three years after his last murder. that's our report. thank you for watching. i'm john seigenthaler. developing now. a terror plot. the fbi arrests a u.s. citizen for allegedly trying to blow up a christmas tree lighting ceremony. on the brink. north korea with more threats as the u.s. and south korea plan joint military exercises in the region later today. new and potentially dangerous. the whistle-blower website is planning to release classified documents again.

this time, it could be worse than before. black friday shows shoppers may be back in a buying mood. good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt. welcome to "msnbc saturday." the fbi has arrested a teenager who planned to detonate a car bomb at a christmas tree lighting ceremony in portland. >> an attempt to use a weapon of mass destruction to kill american families celebrating during the holidays. mohammed osman mohamud was arrested as he tried to detonate a van he believed was packed with explosives. the city's tree lighting was taking place. mohamud tried to activate it via cell phone, but it was a dud. the sting began in june when he

had began e-mailing a contact in pakistan. at a july meeting in portland, the undercover agent was told he wanted to drop the van. the van was dropped off with fake explosives and he tried to detonate it from a nearby train station and that sent federal agents rushing in to arrest him. mahmoud will be arraigned on monday. he could face charges of attempting to detonate a weapon of mass destruction. >> coming up, more on the plot from nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. north korea is accusing south korea of using civilian as so-called human shields on that island that was attacked this week. two marines and two civilians

died when north korea launched a surprise artillery attack on the small island in south korea this week. they will begin four days of war games in the waters off the south korean peninsula later today. ian williams in seoul, south korea with more. >> good morning, alex. tensions are extremely high this morning. along the border between the two koreas. military exercises between south korea and the u.s. are due to begin in a few hours from now. the center of those exercises, of course, the "u.s.s. george washington," the nuclear powered aircraft carrier carrying 75 warplanes. today, north koreans describe those exercises as an unpardonable provocation and threatened what they call a sea of fire retaliation. i should point out, of course, we often see rhetoric like that from the north, but nobody's taking any chances. passions also very high today here in south korea.

we've seen a series of protests, urging the government to take a much tougher line against the north. also, the funerals of the two marines who died on that attack on yeongyeong island. pretty heady rhetoric from both sides. on the island which is where the attack took place on tuesday, which killed the two marines and two civilians, officials have been urging those civilians who still remain to leave the island. that is the particularly tense area. they've also been building shelters for those who remain, who have been helping to clear up. alex. >> all right. william williams, thank you very much for that. more now from mike viqueira, live at the white house. good saturday morning.

>> good morning, alex. >> how is the administration responding? >> they are watching the situation closely here in the united states. it is a holiday weekend. we've not seen a lot of president yesterday, aside from one ill-fated basketball outing yesterday morning. national security aides have been seen walking back and forth out of west wing. president getting regular briefings. he said before the holidays, the united states stands shoulder to shoulder with south korea. no one needs to be reminded there are 30,000 men and women in uniform stationed near the dmz since the armistice was signed in 1953. intelligence sources tellings nbc news, notwithstanding the north korean threats, no mobilization they can discern from intelligence gathering services of troops, men, or material that would lead anyone to believe that there would be any large-scale military movement or action imminent from the north. but having said all that,

obviously everybody on the edge of their seats here about the situation on the korean peninsula. alex. >> i can imagine. okay. mike, we'll get more on this throughout the day. thank you. >> okay. >> we'll bring you analysis of the crisis in korea and talk about how much of a test this could be for the obama administration, plus a look at what the options are out there. you heard mike referencing that ill fated outing. the president is shaking off injuries stemming from the basketball court. 12 stitches in the upper left after catching an accidental elbow to the face. that elbow belonged to ray deseger desegerega. he issued a statement calling the president a tough competitor and good sforport. a huge release of wikileaks expected any time now, and the white house says it could endanger u.s. interests abroad. in response, the state

department is frantically reaching out to world leaders to warn them about what could be key information about them and their countries. the leaks reportedly reveal embarrassing claims against russian leadership. also serious concerns some of the leaks could threaten intelligence operations against al qaeda in yemen and hurt u.s. relations with afghan president hamid karzai. i'm joined with retired army colonel and msnbc analyst jack jacobs. good morning. >> good morning. >> what strikes you as being the most threatening thing out there? >> the least threatening, the relationship with hamid karzai. relationships are difficult in the best of times. threatening our sources in al qaeda. don't forget al qaeda is a very fragmented organization. not monolithic. you can't go one stop shopping, go splic go someplace, get all of the information. we have to go to multiple

sources. if any of these sources decide that their cover is going to be blown, they won't talk to our agents anymore, not get anymore information. earlier in the hour, we talked about the plot to blow up the 19-year-old somali kid. he wouldn't receive any of that intelligence. that's the most damaging thing. >> so does this also stand to do more damage than to the military secrets in regard to afghanistan and iraq. >> the current operations stuff. that gets stale very quickly. intelligence operations, sources, and widespread sources, it's liable to do lots more damage, and because it's going to release communiques and memomemo s, discussions between our government, that could have a very damaging effect worldwide. >> i cannot understand why the u.s. cannot stop this in the interest of national security, which by all experts accounts,

this does pose a challenge to that. can't they bring the site down? >> the short answer is no, they can't. and the longer answer is most of this information we're talking about starts getting leaked now came from one source. low-level clerk. >> bradley manning. >> as far as we can tell. but it also points out how vulnerable our system is. our cyber security is nothing at all what it should be if a low-level clerk like that with the capability to get only low level information can hack into the system and release millions of documents, then we're in trouble. >> that's what's unfathomable. nearly 3 million documents. add that to the 70,000, and we're looking at 3.5 million documents. >> think about all of the vulnerability of our banks, medical system. we need to get serious about protecting these soon. >> jake jacobs, thank you very much. police near syracuse, new

york, are expanding their search for jeni-lyn watson. she disappeared one day after returning to her home for thanksgiving break. they searched for watson in a wooded area near her home on friday. the search will cover 1,200 acres this weekend. and a tanker truck crashed and burned near a group of homes near palmer. 100 residents spent the night at temporary shelters. it was carrying propane when it burst into flames. firefighters let the fire burn off rather than attempt to extinguish it. fortunately, no one was hurt. and bigger sales as door buster deals continue throughout the weekend. the average shopper expected to spend $700 this holiday season. and even though spending is picking up, it hasn't returned to prerecession levels. mi

mike tiabbi checking things out at manhattan mall. it looks quiet now, but shoppers will be taking the pathways soon. >> no 5:00 a.m. start today. this place jammed yesterday. finally good news projected by the national retail federation. a modest 2.3% increase in holiday sales this year. among other signs retail may slowly leading the country's way out of the deep recession. on black friday, all signs on display. the crowds were huge. a lot of leading retailers opening earlier than in past years. meaning shopper had to start sooner to get the for buster break. >> a refrigerator, stove, and tv. >> we expect it to be a record shopping season over the last four years. >> because it is a race, there were some tense moments. a standoff between two customers

who reached for the same item at the same time. >> do not touch me! >> reporter: mostly, the tension will be over the bottomline. several bottom lines actually, that will have a real impact on the broader economy. >> for all of the things we don't know, we know the road to recovery runs through retrail. >> reporter: and retrail tracking every telling trend. more self-gifting? so far 15% of one purchases were people buying for themselves, up from 9% on black friday last year, but well below the 26% in the last prerecession year. how fast will black friday internet sales continue to grow? and to what percentage of overall sales? >> we like to do as much as we can to offer similar deals online and in the stores. >> reporter: and the computer- savvy has a lot to sift through. not just the deals for cyber monday, but for what are calling small business saturday. a day to support local, nonchain

businesses and the new tablet and smart phone apps that tell you exactly where in the store to shop, how to get special loyalty discounts and where to find a better price than the one you're scanning with your own cell phone. new ways to shop. >> we have to keep something in mind. no matter how strong the holiday season is, the question becomes what happens after the holiday season? >> we'll get that answer to that report card in january. right now, alex, it looks like black friday weekend is off to a robust start. >> good news all around. thank you for that, mike tiabbi. inside the west wing. a new book about bitter divisions in the white house and allegations that made the first lady angry. an old dog pulls a disappearing trick. we'll show you that on "msbnc saturday." [ female announcer ] the healing power of touch

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new this morning, a terror plot busted by the fbi. one suspect trying to blow up a christmas tree lighting ceremony in portland, oregon. the suspect parked a van near that lighting ceremony and tried to set off what he thought was a bomb, but it never detonated. 19-year-old mohammed osman mohamud, born in somalia and a naturalized u.s. citizen now, was arrested. peter, good saturday morning to you. >> and to you. >> how did the fbi stop this from happening? >> they were in on it from the very beginning. there was never really any chance he could pull this off. court documents say it was actually mohamud, according to investigators that came up with this idea last august, of setting off a bomb at the christmas tree lighting ceremony in portland. and he said he wanted to kill "a huge mass of people with their

families." during the past several months, he worked with people he thought were terrorists, but who turned out to be fbi undercover agents. bought bombed components, practiced setting off explosives and helped the fbi -- he thought they were terrorists -- build a fak bomb. th he drove to the square, and repeatedly dialled a cell phone trying to set it off. >> he was trying to build his repertoire as well. >> the fbi helped him construct a backpack bomb. went out into the country side and he learned how to dial the cell phone to set it off. they actually switched the dud bomb they had given him for the real bomb on that day. and then did the switcher yswit

according to court documents before the tree lighting ceremony. they were with him every step of the way. after receiving a tip that he was intensely interested in jihad. after learning about that, investigating him. he was approached by people he thought were terror contacts for people in pakistan and yemen but were undercover agents. >> any idea how many of these undercover stings are under way? >> no way to know how many are under way. that's a very closely held secret they would not want to betray. we had one a couple months ago in washington, d.c. a man accused of plotting to blow up or set off bombs on the washington, d.c. subway. in this case, it appears it was the federal investigators who fed the idea of attacking the subway in this case according to court documents, mohamud himself when they initially approached him, he said i want to set off a bomb at the christmas tree

lighting ceremony. according to investigators, this was his idea. >> with the idea as he said to take out families, that was the point. >> yes. >> pete, thank you so much. we'll see you throughout the morning. upstate new york could see heavy snow. lake effect snow warnings stretch into tonight. and mike sidle is in dayton for us. good saturday morning to you, mike. i'm trying to get to where you are, and it's looking like christmas, let me tell you. >> i tell you what. it seems like a couple of days ago we were at the pool and at the beach. here it is. lake-effect season kicked in. buffalo had gone a record almost nine months without a flake of snow until yesterday. four inches here. the band has moved to the south. temperatures in it is mid 20s. wind chills between 10 and 15. map, off lake erie, lake ontario, you'll see another five, six, eight or nine inches of snow on top of what has already fallen.

these areas, especially off ontario average in a good year 200, 250 inches of snow. we're just getting under way. as far as the national map goes, pretty good travel weather with the exception of here in western new york. i-80 and the thruway and the pacific northwest, a new mess coming in. a warmering system. rain in portland, seattle. rest of the country looks terrific for travel today and for tomorrow for most of us. tomorrow being the busiest air travel day of the year i'm told. and i'll be at the airport too. lucky me. >> we'll have to hear from you then as well as later this morning. mike seidel, thank you. gearing up for the long trip home. did more people hit the road this year? what to expect before you leave the house. plus, kim kardashian and her new prepaid master card and why some say it's a bad deal. talk about it on "msnbc saturday."

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its stepped-up aggression against the south. the state department is working diplomatic channels and the pentagon sends a show of force to the region. a good morning to you. >> good morning. >> how big of a crisis is this for the white house right now? >> significant many and, boy, it seems like we've been through this many, many times before. and listening to all of the smart people who have death with north korea over the years, it doesn't seem to be many palatable alternatives. we've tried everything. and if you look back over the last decade or so last 15 years, alex, whether it's economic sanctions or diplomatic isolation, nothing really seems to work, and then there are people debating what should be the role of russia, of china. and there is absolutely no consensus on that. >> is there a consensus this is a test of the white house and it's diplomatic skills? >> there's that theory, but you have the ambiguity of kim jong-il, you listen to some of

the folks. some theories based on his being a rational actor. some theorys are based on him being irrational. some of them he'll get nuclear weapon biz hook or crook, and if he wants to get them to iran, he will, and no amount of racition pleading or pressure will work. and you have the ambiguity of china, upset about the training exercises in the south china sea, and i think it's -- is caught really very much between its desire to help north korea and the fact that it's not stupid. it realizes the provocation that just took place. >> sure. what about domestic issues? will this distract the president from that display on that level? >> sure, we'll take time off from that, but so does getting 12 stitches from playing basketball. i think he can compartmentalize well. and when the lame duck session

is back, he'll have a lot of problems. >> speaking of the lame-duck session, how much can he get done? what about the tax cuts set to expire about a month from now? >> the answer is not much. i don't think much at all will happen with the lame duck when it comes to spending cuts and tax cuts it looks as if -- no one knows for sure, republicans decide. let's just wait until february when we -- when we're back in session. we've got the majority in the house. there have been a deal on the least spending cuts in the senate, but it looks like that's been put aside. and when it comes to tax cuts, everybody is trying it figure out, do you extend them, try to change them, do it for a year or two years. >> which means they'll let it expire? >> i think they'll try to extend the cuts for a little bit into the year 2011. >> temporary. >> but the question is will it be extending the full range of bush tax cuts. i don't think anybody can tell you that right now. obviously the president want to. does he bite the bullet, go all

the way with an extension in that case. do i do it for a year, two years? when it comes to spending cuts, their desire to have a so-called continuing resolution. alex, by the time we talk next week in theory, the government could be conceivably shut down. you have to get money to continue the government on december 3rd. do you go on with what the obama folks go on for a ten-month extension or what looks like republicans want, extended to the winter, february and thien we'll start looking at the obama budget items and see if we can slash spending and we'll do it with political peril in hand. u.s. citizens, their estimation of congress is so low, if they get into next year, and not much being done, i don't known there are too many people happy with it, other than i guess maybe the tea party partisans who sewn those guys to congress, presumably not to do much. >> mission accomplished then?

just kidding. thank you very much. >> enjoy the rest of the holiday off. >> you too. thank you. about a foot of snow fallen in the northeast of britain and scotland. 200 schools closed and 12,000 car breakdowns. over the next few days, snowstorms expect to sweep across the rest of the country with mercury dropping to minus 10 by the middle of the week. love in the air at london's covet garden as people got together to light a kissmas tree. there was missile tow aroue aro. it will raise funds for the prince of wales trust. ♪ for he's a jolly good fellow ♪ the meeting's tomorrow in dallas ♪

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a somali born 19-year-old is under arrest after allegedly plotting to bomb yesterday's tree lighting ceremony in portland, oregon. he was arrested as the result of an fbi sting operation. more on that. and north korea accuses south korea of using civilian as human shield. and the u.s. gears up for joint military exercises with south korea. and another impending release by wikileaks. u.s. officials worry the release could endanger lives and damage relations. more gun battles in rio de janeiro. they have succeeded in driving drug traffickers from one shanty town. 46 people have died since the violent outbreak began last sunday. and qantas resumed flying the a380. this after the engine of a

double-decker bus exploded on flight. those are your fast five headlines. a little bit of mixedup tapes many we'll get that straightened out. meantime, north korea says south korea is using the death of two civilians as part of a propaganda police. they died on a small south korean island that the north shelled. south korea's commander is vowing to take revenge. we have a former staff member at the national security council. good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> what does north korea want? >> alex, the korean peninsula is a land of bad options as my colleague at georgetown states frequently. china, north korea says feed me or i will die and infect the neighborhood. to south korea, they say look, this is a succession crisis i need in order to legit mize my

son's rise to power, and to the u.s., north korea says if you don't recognize me as the legitimate ruler over all of korea, i will create nuclear weapons. and, in fact, north korea goes ahead and gets food from china, gets talks from the united states, gets all kinds of legitimacy from south korea, and so no matter what we do, north korea tends to come out on top. >> so will diplomacy work here? is there a diplomatic solution? what are the options we have? >> there is no diplomatic solution, but didplomacy is the only option available, because north korea has a tremendously large land army, missiles, trades missiles with iran and helps them do other nefarious activities. >> you said there is no diplomatic solution, but diplomacy is our only option it

seems like we won't get anywhere. >> we won't get anywhere on the diplomatic track, but it's the magic of buying time for something else to happen. for china to come to its senses, we give you 90% of your energy and food, you better shape up or you'll be shipping out. >> what is the real danger that north korea poses to the u.s.? is it genuinely a nuclear threat? >> well, the main threat is i think to the u.s. is the nuclear missile threat, but the main threat to south korea is that the north will implode like east germany imploded and has to be absorbed. the main threat to china is that north korea will implode and send refugees across the 900 or so mild border between north korea and china, alex. >> you mentioned part of this may be spurred on because kim jong-il wants to legitimize his

27-year-old son who is taking over, which we don't know much. what do we know? >> we know he's a fan of michael jordan, basketball player. that's all we know. he is untested. he needs some kind of a crisis to show the military in north korea that this is no time to challenge the so-called civilian leadership, so he was made a four-star general without any military experience, alex. >> okay. that's sobering. that part of the conversation right there. thank you. as always. >> pleasure. >> the u.s. is briefing its allies ahead of a potentially embarrassing document dump from the website wikileaks. it's expected to release hundreds and thousands of state department cables which include private and candid statements about foreign leaders and governments. the concern is not just on the diplomatic front. admiral mike mullen says this will threaten american troops and other individuals who cooperate with the u.s. >> we live in a world where just a little bitty piece of

information can be added to a network of information and really open up an understanding that just wasn't there before us. >> admiral mullen says he hopes the people behind the leaks will start thinking about the people that they are exposing to potential harm. and at least nine people are under arrest after it discovered a cross border tunnel for drug uggling. it stretched to a house in tijuana, mexico. it had electricity, and ventilation. over 30,000 pounds of marijuana have been seized. the second largest pot bust in u.s. history. a plan in utah is dead. and body was found buried in the snow. he was already dead. the victim was snowmobiling with one other perch who was able to safely escape the sliding snow.

new challenges facing the obama administration. and political analyst richard wolf gained unrivalled access to his top advisers. there in the new book. revival, the struggle for survival. richard here to join us. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i'm so glad you're here. you spent a lot of time with the president. the inner circle getting access to all of that. what is it you learned that is most revelatory about the white house? >> part of the reputation for calmness and coolness. there are huge strengths from failure to success and back again. it happened in the campaign, happening now, and happened at the point of which i imbedded myself in the white house at the start of this year. secondly, the big divisions inside the white house, why are they getting into this kind of trouble. it comes down to these two camps that are debating and arguing.

what to do with that big campaign in 2008. what is the right balance between these two things? that is one of the reasons i talked about. do they revive the campaign? >> you talk about the two camps are they very easily distinguished? is there one group and the other group stays in the other? >> there is a broad definition and a broad alignment of two sides. but it's not just a washington crowd or chicago crowd. not ideological. some people in the campaign are in the washington campus saying do the deals, get things done and if it takes you away from the changed transformist message you had in 2008, so be it. that's the way the city works. >> we all know that the first lady is a very intelligent woman. i understand you found out michelle obama was angry about some of these strategic decisions being made. like what? >> certainly at the start of

this year, remember, after they lost in massachusetts, everyone said the presidency was finished, health care was finished. at the start of the year, the president told his aides that he was getting a hard time from the first year, that he was being blamed forb the economy and he wasn't to blame for it he lost the message of change. this is something he communicated. he also told people he was unhappy about the whole party crashing thing and worried about security now. that's something that the first lady's staff disputes. that's something that the west wing folks at least believe quite seriously. >> what about the vice president? you spent time with joe biden. what is his relationship like with barack obama. >> he has gone from being the guy of being undisciplined, not being on message with the campaign, to someone who speaks very frankly. he says things maybe they want to say and he can be pretty upfront. he told me that here is a guy

tasked with selling the recovery act, all of the billions of dollars spent there, and they got the message wrong. they shouldn't have talked about saving or creating jobs, they should is talked about saving people from the abyss of poverty, that they got c.o.b.r.a. benefits, unemployment benefits. they sold it in the wrong way. he speaks frank not just internally, but to people like me. >> the vice president and president staffs, doing two different things. do you see them working together much? are they on different messages? >> the vice president has been given these whole areas to manage, whether it's managing the messy politics in iraq or selling the recovery act. the staff works together well. this is not like bush and cheney where we have an ideological split. it's much more enmeshed. but there are those real differences when it comes to how to sell this stuff to a very skeptical public. joe biden told me, people were getting pay cuts. they thought they were getting

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on black friday deals. stores opened up earlier this year, including toys r us, old navy, and sears, even welcomed thanksgiving shoppers on thanksgiving day. did it get more consumers out of the house? here is the anchor of cnbc's "worldwide exchange." what happened with black friday? >> expectations were extremely high. expectations showed 138 million americans were supposed to hit the malls, supposed to hit the stores, up from 134 million last year, and retailers were really expecting to see an uptick. remember where we're coming from, alex. the last two years have been flat or negative growth this is supposed to best black friday in three years, but we're not coming from a strong point. keep it in perspective. >> what kind of an indicator overall is black friday? i think there were times it used to be very much indicative of the how the series will go. has that been at this tidiluted?

>> i went back and looked, and you can't glean what we're going to see in the coming six weeks with what we saw yesterday. >> how about consumer confidence? doesn't that give an indicator? >> remember two types of consumers. the consumers that have a job and the consumer that don't have a job. the consumer that have a job, we are expecting them to continue to use discretionary income on things like shoes, jewelry, and makeup. those that don't have a job are looking for sales like black friday and ditch out the rest of the holiday shopping season. >> those who have jobs have tightened the purse strings. do you get a sense that what they are spending is the basics? >> for november and december, we're expecting to see an uptick of 2.3%. that's coming off 2008, right after the wall street crash in

the thick of the financial crisis, up 3.5%. so early indications, i just talked to the ceo of coach. he says sales are supposed to be strong. tiffany's -- >> luxury bouncing back. >> weekly jobless claims fell this week, consumer sentiment up. >> highs in the stock market. >> what are analysts say about the stop market being up. >> there is some correlation that some say when we're at our highs in the stock market it will trickle into discretionary spending we'll see over the next six weeks. >> quickly to cyber monday, talking about it in the commercial. a big fan, not so much? >> not a big fan of the world cyber monday. more and moran lists say it was a manufactured term, about marketing hype. that they intended to get people on line when online shopping wasn't what it is today. let's be real, alex. people aren't going online and shopping at 11:00 on monday like

the term suggests. they are shopping right now, maybe while they are watching us, shopping online all the time. cyber monday is expected to see an up tick of about 2.5% of online sales. 9-10 retailers are expected to give a deal. remember, we hit an online commerce record last year. $ $887 million was spent last year online and now we're seeing it trickle over all these days and throughout christmas. not just on monday. >> one piece of advice, don't be doing cyber monday at work. that's no good. you can't do that. >> we wouldn't do that. >> nicole, thank you so much. >> you're wochg. here is a tip about fees you'll have to pay for the kardashian credit card. new jersey's attorney general called the fee outrageous. the kardashian website calls the prepaid card a fast and convenient way to manage money.

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firefighters in northern california spent hours rescuing a dog that was trapped. homer disappeared late on thanksgiving. he had fallen into a 30-foot narrow hole. homer appeared to escape this ordeal without injury. probably needed a bath, though. the wish bone may be long broken and your thanksgiving turkey is probably reduced to small chunks wrapped in aluminum foil now, but the holiday travel window is still wide open and the busiest days are yet to come. i'm joined now by joesy miller. good morning. >> good morning to you. so air transport says that the busiest days of the airline industry are coming sunday and monday? what do we expect? >> well, wednesday and thursday were two of the busiest days of

the year and they went remarkably well. in fact, the tsa reported that wait time at security was a maximum of 30 minutes nationwide and for the most part was closer to five to ten minutes of wait. one traveler was saying that most days at l.a.x. there is a wait, but thanksgiving, there wasn't. sunday is expected to be even busiest, sunday being the common day for people to return for their trips from seeing family and monday being a very busy day for business travelers. >> so people opted out of the opt out. >> they did. and people went to the airport expecting the absolute worst. they were bracing for a long day, chaos and a hassle. but the fact that they built in extra time and came early, that they were ready when they got to the front of the line with their boarding pass, an i.d. ready,

their laptop out and trays full of the liquids. >> how about the roads, what are they going to look like? >> thanksgiving does tend to be a bigger driving holiday than a flying holiday. so driving was higher up this year than it was last year. whereas flying was down a little bit, that could have been to due to increased baggage fees, any other fees, but thanksgiving tends to be a bigger driving holiday. it's always best to drive on offpeak hours if you're planning to drive. >> you understand trip adviser.com gave some traveler surveys. what do these tell you? >> we asked travelers, you know, do you think that the tsa's new security measures with the full body scanners have gone too far? and about half of them said that, yes, they've gone too far. but on the other hand, the other 50% said that they think they're right on target or that they're not strict enough, which is

interesting. i was browsing the message boards and the general consensus seems to be in that more security ask always better than less security. they don't think the full body scanners are that big of a deal. one guy joked that it was a great opportunity for him to show off his abs. oerts suppressing concerns with the exposure to radiation. but the american college of radiology seems to think if you're traveling from coast to coast you'll be exposed to more radiation than you will with the full body scanners. so the tsa says they're perfectly safe and that shouldn't be any concern. >> less than what you get in a dentist office. >> exactly. >> thank you so much. he allegedly dialed his cell phone to set off death and destruction, but it only got him arrested. the latest on an fbi arrest of a man who wanted to bomb a holiday light display. [ male announcer ] you know her.

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