compound. flooding fears, mighty mississippi rises to record levels and residents are told to leave their homes. all you need is love. beatles legend paul mccartney pops the question to his girlfriend of four years. good morning. i'm alex witt. it is 8:00 a.m. on the nose in new york. 5:00 a.m. out west. meantime the american public could get a glimpse of osama bin laden's life inside of his secret compound in pakistan. the pentagon is expected to release new delater today and intelligence officials have been poring over a wealth of information confiscated from that pakistan compound in search of clues to possible terror targets. still cloaked in secrecy are photographs of the dead terror leader shot once in the head and once in the chest by the navy s.e.a.l. team that swept in the compound early monday morning. the president thanked the soldiers responsible for killing bin laden on friday in kentucky. he also used visit to ft. campbell to speak about the war

on terror. >> we are making progress in our major goal, central goal in pakistan. and afghanistan. that's disrupting and dismantling and will ultimately defeat al qaeda. we have -- >> athena jones is at the white house. good saturday morning to you. certainly been a big week for the president. what was house message at ft. campbell? >> reporter: good morning. you know the president, as you said, wanted to go personally thank this team that carried out the mission against bin laden in pakistan. he delivered the message saying we thank you. we know you acted courageously. you know, among the group he met with, navy s.e.a.l. who shot bin laden, the s.e.a.l. was not identified or singled out in any way. that's not their practice. but he was among the group that met with president obama. as you heard the president wanted to congratulate and thank not just that team but also american troops in general. he said, you know, while we are making progress against al qaeda

and other extremists the war is not over. a warning as well as congratulations there, alex. >> well-deserved congratulations. what do you know about the cia briefing that's expected to take place a bit later on today? >> reporter: it is interesting. this brief sing supposed to happen around noon. we should hear more from the senior intelligence official about some of the intelligence that has been gleaned from the compound. all of this information that's come out they have been able to -- got when they -- conducted this mission on sunday. it has been described as a treasure-trove of information. we have already heard about al qaeda trying to attack u.s. trains on the anniversary of september 11 coming up this year. we expect to find that a little more possibly about what al qaeda was trying to do. certainly this seems to show us that osama bin laden wasn't just a figurehead or inspirational figure. he really was involved in trying to plan more attacks. now, u.s. officials have been careful to say we don't have any real credible or imminent threats. they haven't changed the threat

level. it will be interesting to see what comes out of the briefing later on. >> can you give me just a sense of the relationship right now between building behind you there, the white house, and pakistan and how tense it is? >> well, it has been very, very interesting. you heard there almost every official, there was a breefg earlier this week, he said more than once, it is inconceivable that bin laden wouldn't have had some sort of support within pakistan. he didn't go as far to ait involved the government. they don't really know necessarily or aren't saying to us what they suspect that level of support to have been. but they say osama bin laden certainly had support within pakistan and so they also say, though, that, you know, the u.s. and pakistan have to work together and they are partners on this war against al qaeda. and extremists. really they can't abandon pakistan and come out and say -- all sorts of negative things about them without having real

evidence and so it has been a tricky relationship and they are going to have to con to balance as they go forward, alex. >> athena jones as at the white house. thank you. al qaeda says it will live on. despite bin laden's death. it's vowing to exact revenge on america and its allies. the group is praising its former leader in a lengthy statement released yesterday. a former assistant secretary with the department of homeland security is joining us. thanks for joining us. >> good morning. >> this is the first time that al qaeda is acknowledging bin laden is dead. with regard to that, how real is the threat of reveng they claim against the u.s.? >> i think -- they would like revenge clearfully the message whether they were operationally prepared for it immediately, you know is one of the reasons why we are going through all this intelligence we got out of bin laden's home. i think the most important things out of the message -- i believe it was, you know, started probably plea planned or pre-message before bin laden's

death because, one, in the message then mentioned, you know, you better do -- you better treat bin laden's bodile with. we already disposed of the body. it doesn't mention anyone as neck. it does not mention zawahiri. they may have done the message thinking bin laden may be found and killed. a good thing for the united states is the arab sort of street response has been muted. we have been hearing about some rallies and some other instances where people are publicly supporting bin laden. but for the most part some of the good news is that you are not seeing this uprising all across the northern africa and middle east saying oh, you know, we are sorry he is dead. it has been quite muted on the street. >> i'm curious why do you think that is? here osama bin laden was the heralded leader and -- you know, much celebrated. is it the passage of time? is it that others have taken his

place? >> i mean, for one -- it is clearly al qaeda's a much more dispersed group. when you talk about al qaeda in 2001, these were -- you know, sort of -- tight-nutt group of men who had vouched allegiance to bin laden. now what we are seeing in terms of the terror attacks or terror threats are men who were 12, right, september 11. that does persian of him personally, people were not -- sort of saying, you know, bin laden is the person i vow my allegiance to. they just supported the movement, so to speak. of course, as we have seen over the last couple of months, the arab world has moved on in a very good way. what we are see in the arab spring was not about bin laden. so al qaeda saw history pass it by. >> i'm curious how much do you think osama bin laden, julia, was able to really be the directional operative, leader?

this is a guy that -- apparently had a computer but no internet connection. how in the world would he have been able to communicate with people? >> i think it was -- quite limited. we know there were careers, we will find out more from the briefing today. what we hear about the -- potential train attacks on the tents anniversary, those may have been a wish list of bin laden. we shouldn't be surprised by that. i think what, more surprising if he was than planning things or if al qaeda said you know, threw up the white flag and said oh, now we are done. everything we are hearing from al qaeda and finding from bin laden is what we would anticipate. it is a very operational character, early it is a '90s. he was planning specifically the attacks against, say, africa -- u.s. embassies in africa, against the u.s.s. cole. he wanted to continue that, no surprise. the fact is u.s. intelligence and law enforcement agencies are saying, look, there may be an increased threat and don't have any specifics. it is also, i think, a very

smart way to anticipate potential -- rise increase threat level. but it does not -- not intended to scare the american public. it is saying, look, this is obvious. we should be concerned. >> stay vigilant. many thanks and good to see you. one of bin laden's wives is spilling new secrets that she and bin laden spent two years living closer to pakistan's capital before they moved to that compound that was raided by navy s.e.a.l.s this week. stephanie gosk is live for news islamabad, pakistan. good morning to you. this is not going to do anything to end suspicions people in pakistan may have really known bin laden's whereabouts all along. >> reporter: no, it really isn't. she is saying, wife, reportedly that bin laden for the last seven years, first two of those years, in a town even closer to the capital here in islamabad.

south of where the compound was, where bin laden was killed, where that raid took place. so it is going to -- definitely going to raise those issues even further. wondering how it is he could be so close to the capital, so close to the military installations here and never be dete detected. we are hearing two different versions of what bin laden's role was for al qaeda in that compound. the u.s. officials are telling nbc that he was actually heavily engaged in al qaeda's operations. one official says he woke up and seems every morning trying to hatch new plans of how to attack the united states. reportedly here pakistani intelligence is saying that that's not the case at all. he was actually far removed from the operations. living in very difficult, uncomfortable conditions. and really cut off from the rest of al qaeda. >> okay. stephanie gosk, we will speak with you again. thank you so much. coming up, democratic congressman adam says he disagree was president obama's decision not to release pictures

of bin laden bill's body. i will speak with him ten minutes from now. record river levels along the mississippi are expected to be broken as the mississippi river continues to rise this weekend. many residents who have never seen much flooding before are now facing painful possibility of evacuating. evacuations are taking place in parts of memphis, ten the, where several homes have been flooded. >> i have a lot of my mom's stuff in there. i don't know if i can get in. you can only do what you can. >> nbc's jay gray is live for us in memphis, tennessee. that is beal street, i'm guessing. does not look anything like a road beneath you, jay. good morning. >> reporter: yeah, good morning to you, alex. the mississippi river in the middle of beal street right now, look, this is the time of year in memphis the weather is perfect. you usually see people flooding the parks down here. now it is -- the water that's flooding this area. all you see are -- memphis residents coming down because

they have never seen the water this high. coming down to take a look, take a picture. the concern here, alex, is things are only going to get worse. this water is continuing to rise as you talked about. it is really crippling some of the suburban communities. washing away neighborhoods. more than 300 people are already in area shelters. many others have moved in with family members or friends waiting important the water to recede. that's not going happen for quite some time. and it looks like the mississippi will crest here in memphis. around wednesday. at a near record level of 48 feet, the record is 48.7. it is going to be right at that mark. it is going to cause more problems before things get any better, alex. >> you have the pictures to prove that. okay. thanks so much, jay gray. more rain is on the way this weekend for in parts of the country. nbc meteorologist bill karins is keep track of all the laters weather developments. good saturday morning to you. >> good saturday morning. we are in the midst of the great flood of 2011 on the mississippi rivers and only going to get

worse in the week ahead. we are watching the ohio river at record flood stage. this map shows you where the crest is. flashing light is. that's where the ohio river meets the mississippi river. ton of water coming from the ohio river. that's where the crest is now. it has to go tall way downstream over the next two weeks. the water on the mississippi is a slow journey down to the gulf of mexico. we crested at the fourth you a-time highest. now we are waiting for memphis to crest. looks like you are going to crest wednesday. upcoming week. probably second all-time highest river level. goes back over 100 years. this is one of the great floods being compared to floods of the 1927 and 1937. look at the very bottom of this crean. vicksburg, this thub your all-time highest crest on the 20th of this mop. we still have another week and a half to two weeks to go before we are done with the great flood of 2011 p. memphis, not a lot of rain in the forecast for you. that's good. it is too late, we saw so much heavy rain in april that's why we are seeing this record flooding. your weekend forecast, scattered

showers and storms rolling through missouri. watch those near the derby this afternoon. then your mother's day forecast, just some scattered storms in the carolinas through areas of virginia. and also some wet weather in the northern rockies. but i don't think it is going to be wet enough to ruin anyone's mother's day plans. just hit and miss. back to you, alex. better than expected jobs report in the month of april. 244,000 jobs were added last month. that's the most in five years. you see that number, 9.0, unemployment rate climbing to that point and significant rises in the jobless rate. african-american and hispanic communities. while the economy has added jobs for seven straight months now at the current rate it is going to take years to recover the 8 million jobs lost during the recession. is america safer with the death of osama bin laden? i will talk with democratic congressman adam schiff on that. a child is injured when a leopard leaps out its cage at the zoo. we will take you live to

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from other countries. supporters say shark finning is inhumane and 73 million sharks killed each year to become an ingredient in that soup. 7ier old boy in wichita, kansas, recovering from serious injuries today after being attacked by a leopard at a local zoo. zoo officials say that the child climbed over the railing around the leopard enclosure and on to an interior fence where the leopard attacked him. the child faced neck injuries but those wounds are not life threatening. the excitement is growing with just hours now until the 137th running of the kentucky derby this. that race takes place later on nbc. one of the favorites this year is dialed in. let's check in with stephanie abrams who is live at churchill downs for us. i thought that men you. i thought -- ifb was dialed in. one of our favorites, stephanie. get that? >> yeah, yeah. >> how about -- first of all, i love the hat. the festive nature of what's going on there.

what's the temperature? >> you need to come out. we need -- yeah. okay. let's talk about the weather in a second. it is really nice. let's first talk fashion and horses. i had a hat on earlier. someone let me borrow this fascinator. i think i like the fascinator better than the hat. >> i think fascinators are hip and cool and trendy. i know the britts wear them all the time. i think you are good to go, stephanie. >> thanks. i'm just trying to keep up with the kids, you know, stay young and cool and all that hip stuff. really i look like a dork. that's what we will talk about now. beautiful to start off the day. temperatures, cool o the cool side. when we have the call to the post, 6:24, there is a chance for rain. here's the thing. it is very scattered in nature. making this forecast call is virtually impossible to tell you if there will be a thunderstorm right over the racetrack or just north or south of it. no thunderstorms at all. it is that scatteredness. yes, you can wear the heels but they might get dirty. definitely taking a risk if you

want to bring maybe some more standard shoes. it is not going to hurt you. as you can see they are getting track ready. races kick off at 10:30 this morning. and i have to tell you, i'm personally rooting for the women. there are no fillies in the race today. all 3-year-old colts. but there is a woman jockey riding pants on fire and then there's also a woman trainer who had a heart transplant and incredible story. alex, those are my two picks for the day today. >> mucha macho man and pants on fire. >> yes. >> chicks have the great names. that's for sure. that's for sure. >> don't they. >> why i, they do. we have to check in with you again and make sure the skies are staying clear in the next hour because last year, remember that -- >> i got you, girl. >> that was a mess. >> it was awful. rained the whole time. >> good luck for it today. we will see new an hour. be sure to watch nbc's live coverage of the kentucky derby. it gets under way at 4:00 this afternoon on your nbc station. you will be hearing a low lot of

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the pentagon poised to reveal new information today on the u.s. takedown of osama bin laden. officials will tell reporters more about the intelligence relating to this week's raid at the terror leader's compound. the u.s. seized a treasure-trove of documents and dijtle files from the scene. michael sheen is an analyst with msnbc news. good morning. first question, how will the use all of this intelligence that's been gathered? >> i think they will use tonight two ways. first on the offensive. they will take any bits of information, names, phone numbers, aliases, to have -- investigations, undercover operations, trying to unravel

the organization. penetrated and attack it. defensively you may get information how they are going to attack us and adjust whether it is civilationation, key spots in the zbloyts it is important to know we have not heard anything firm, anything definitive, say, on the anniversary of 9/11, tenth anniversary. we know the anniversary and dates like that are important in the al qaeda world. >> they are but i think from my experience most serious attackers are not going to go by any kind of anniversary. they have their own operational tempo and serious terrorists are going to try to -- time them to maximize their successful -- success to operate. if they are hurried by certain dates and trying to respond to this attack or trying to get on a date, they could make an error to -- reveal their plot. >> do you think that al qaeda is capable of a large scale attack on the united states any time soon? >> i think this will diminish their capability. i have always been ready for that type of attack for years but this -- appear an -- appear

treasure-trove will debilitate them further. given their history we have to be wary they may still retain that capability. >> all this talk about the rails being a point of attack, hopeful point of attack for them, is that where we are vulnerable? do we know how they mate go about it and now we are on it? >> well, they have always been focused on civil aviation and railroads. in europe, they have been hitting the railroads. london has been hit, madrid, moscow has been hit. india often hit on that rail. we have always been focused in the u.s. on aircraft and railroad. railroads are more vulnerable than airplanes because they are more open. people come in and off the trains more rapidly. it is harder to feel the kind of security measures. also does not provide a spectacular attack as an aircraft for al qaeda. we are going to probably ratchet up our security on railroads without trying to -- impede the free flow of movement.

>> who is in charge of al qaeda right now? >> that's a good question. i would predict it would be ayman al zawahiri. they had some falling out -- >> he's not well liked. respected or fear. >> he is a major operator there. major spokesman for them. will are some rumors they may reach down to the number three or four guy. if hi to bet today, go with zawahiri. we will see in the next few days. they are discussing that right now. they will probably be -- there will probably be an announcement whn a few days or a week or two. >> we will see you against next hour. thanks. an update on the mississippi river that's rising to record levels in tennessee. how residents are preparing for that. plus, paul mccartney gets ready for marriage number three. the details on his proposal. hey susie, why don't you use this ?

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i'm alex witt. here are the top stories for you. in just a couple of hours the pentagon will hold a briefing

about the intelligence found in bin laden's compound in pakistan. we are expected to learn new details about what information navy s.e.a.l.s seized from that home over the weekend. today the syrian army moved into a coastal town with tanks. comes one day after deadly nationwide protests demanding a regime change. syrian activists say electricity and phone lines were cut off. japan wants a power plant to suspend all three reactors at a coastal nuclear plant. the government wants a sea wall built and backup systems to prevent another radiation crisis if there is ever a major earthquake or tsunami. the obama administration reportedly digging deeper to see if pakistan knew where osama bin laden was hiding. "the new york times" reports the white house is dem an names of operatives who may have known the terror leader was living in pakistan. joining me now democratic congressman adam schiff. good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> you bet. thank you. >> osama bin laden was hiding in plain sight less an while from pakistan's equivalent of west

point. do you think pakistanyi -- pakistani officials, anyone, knew he was there? >> this was s the question at the top of our list. i think it is too early to say definitively. we do know this. certainly he had help within the pakistani people. how high or whether that went into the military and intelligence services is something we are examining with the greatest interests. we will be able to tell a lot by how much the pakistanis cooperate with us in terms of the investigation they are now doing. interviews they are doing with bin laden's wives and with the people involved in construction of the compound. their willingness or lack of willingness to be transparent about that i think will tell us a great deal. but one thing we do know in -- many published reports about this is -- the pakistany elemenelement -- pakistani elements, crossing the border into afghanistan and helping kill our troops. that's an ongoing issue, ongoing

threat to the united states and that, i think, there have been ample published reports of that. >> okay. if we know that and if speculation proves to be factual, that there are members of pakistani intelligence or otherwise that knew osama bin laden was there, what do we do about the $1.3 billion pakistan receives in aid from america? is that and should that be reassessed? >> well, i think it is being reassessed. i would like to see us transition more from military support to economic support and move away to our -- from the extraordinary level of military support. particularly, you know if they are going to harbor the network, not going to be more aggressive and ferreting out al qaeda members or members that live in pakistan. then i think we need a transition to civilian assistance and the reason we don't simply cut the cord is that much as this can be an exasperating relationship we do benefit from some of the

cooperation that we get from the pakistani military and internal security forces. there are nuclear power with a real terrorism problem in their country. and those two things are a great danger to us. believe me, many of us would love to say okay, we have had it. we have had it. but that would not be in our best. >> interest but then, sir if you talk about the kind of aid pakistan is receiving thus far, you say military assistance. does that mean that something in the form of military equipment or things that can be used against our own soldiers with that group you were talking about, cross niece afghanistan? >> well, military assistance we are giving to them, we are trying to confine to it stuff that they can use in their anti-terrorism campaign against al qaeda and against the taliban in pakistan. they did embark on major military operations. this was important to us. that did persia lot of al qaeda and the militants into northe

north. if they are going to do that we should support them militarily them in those efforts. that's important to us. they haven't, as yet, done that. i think that ought to cause us also to reassess the kind of military assistance we are giving. but, yes, we do try to confine it, obviously, to things that can't be used against us. and -- things that happen an impact in their anti-terrorism efforts but we may have to go well beyond that in terms of restricting military assistance. unless they come forward more and help us produce, it is very telling that -- they have not really produced major al qaeda or quite -- the figures in their own country under their own arrest and own power when they have the most pervasive intelligence, far more than we do. >> representative schiff, on thursday, schiff, on thursday, here on this network, you mentioned that you believe that the white house should perhaps reverse the stance on withholding the photo of bin laden's dead body.

still feel the same way? >> you know, i'm -- still concerned that we have killed the man but not have killed the myth. a lot of the world where conspiracy theories abound wonders why we got rid of the body so quickly and not to take the american word for it. i do think that the fact that al qaeda has now acknowledged that he's dead goes a long way to answering that question and i would say one thing further that there have been press reports which i can't confirm that there are -- is video of bin laden within the compound and i think if that's produced, also, then i think it will give assistance to ending any conspiracy theory he still lives. >> yes. perhaps something a bit more benign than gruesome photos about his body. all right, representative. adam schiff, southern california, many thanks. we invite all of to you watch "meet the press." among the guests, white house national security adviser tom donilon and mayor rudy giuliani. secretary michael chertoff and

general michael hayden. if it is sunday, it's "meet the press." check your local listings. residents in the midwest are agonizing over whether to flee the rising mississippi river and only appear it is situation will indeed get worse before it gets better. because that river is not expected to crest until next week. farms, small towns, areas already under water. that dlus parts of memphis, tennessee. joining me live on the phone is john thatcher with the mid south red cross. john, good morning. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> i'm glad you are here. give us an assessment how things are in memphis. how bad is it? >> right now we are experiencing 46.8 level here in memphis. expected crest will be 48 feet on may 11. we did receive some good news yesterday. initially the crest was supposed to last four to search days. er in now saying it will lapse around three days. but we -- we are above flood stage in memphis, tennessee, 34 feet. that's expected to remain the

case well through the end of may. so all throughout west tennessee we are -- we are preparing and getting ready for flooding along the mississippi. >> yeah. so where are those residents who have already evacuated and those that will join them? where are they going? >> well, currently we are running shelters all through the -- what woe call the mid south here in this area. we have in arkansas and mississippi we have shelters that are -- additional shelters in shelby county, tennessee, which is the area eye around memphis. northern counties that also have shelters. red cross has been sending in people and material assets so that we have our shelters on standby and ready to open in the event that we need them. the emergency management agency told us that we need to be prepared to shelter approximately 6,000 to 7,000 people in the coming weeks in the event of evacuation or

displacement. >> yeah. john, what's the biggest thing you are worried about now? >> right now it is -- sheltering, that's the big piece right now. after that, we are going to be looking at, you know, what are we going to need to do to assess the damage, provide mobile feeding, bulk distribution of cleanup kits with mops and buckets so people can get back to their homes. of course, with the river remaining above flood stage for so long, you could have a long-term sheltering need and it could, you know, well last into a month. so that's the biggest concern right now. but, again, the red cross is prepared. we have the people in -- and the material we need to do this on the way. and we are going to serve the communities in this area. >> as you always do. john thatcher with the mid south red cross. inform or on the flooding and the weather where you are, head to weather.com. our world view this morning begins in mexico where hope is fading following a mine collapse. friday rescuers pulled out a

ninth body from that coal mine. the families of five other missing miners are waiting for news about their loved ones. the recovery operation has been slow. in italy hundreds of thousands of workers joined in a nationwide strike. rally was called by the country's largest trade unions against what they say is an attack on workers rights. similar demonstrations were held in more than 100 cities. the strikers want more government investment in job creation. and in india, heat wave. temperature jumped to 109 degrees friday. rain in the northern part of the country today is expected to bring down some temperatures but not soon enough. right? last marriage ended on a sour note. that's not stopping paul mccartney from saying i do for a third time. former beet sl reportedly engaged. so we are going live to london. on let's find out who she and when they are going to marry. >> we just finished with one marriage. now we have another one coming up.

he's almost a member of british royalty. he's loved here. obviously. this is the front page of one of the newspapers today. he's marrying nancy shevell. a new yorker. he met her in an exclusive ham tons. just to give you some numbers, they have been together for four years. this will be their third marriage. she's the second american that he's to marry. of course, his first wife, linda mccartney, who very sadly died of breast cancer, you know. he's -- trying to find love since then with heather mills. that went terribly. now he's trying again. so -- someone wrote in the song "all you need is love." >> i think so. apparently he likes the new york girls. his first wife, great love, she was from scarsdale, new york. they are not far from where he

met nancy in the ham tons. >> exactly. he clearly -- loves american women. he spent a lot of time in new york, obviously. he is an international superstar. as well as being loved here in the uk. he's -- 68, by the way. quite a few years past that time when he once would be sending valentine. she is 51. a lot younger. friends -- reportedly say there is great chemistry between them and they are great for each other. >> he doesn't look 68. he keeps looking younger and younger. i don't know what his secret is. >> she looks fantastic, too. a great looking couple. best of luck to them and we will talk to you again. up next, only one day left to get your mother's day shopping done. this year americans are spending more money on mom. we will take a look at those popular gifts when msnbc saturday returns. aaah! [ airplane engine whines ] [ grunts ] [ dog barking ]

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apple upgrading the iphone operating system. the company leased a new

software package for iphones that reduces the am of location data and iphone stores. apple came under scrutiny after word came out that iphone stores unencrypted data on locations, sometimes for months. in the meantime iphone closing in on nokia. on track to become the largest cell phone maker. consumers are reaching for the credit cards once again. federal reserve says consumers increased overall borrowing by $6 billion in march. credit card borrowing alone increased second time since august of 2008. staff reductions could be coming to delta airlines. the company launched new round of voluntary buyouts in early retirement plans. delta looking to cut staff costs. mother's day is tomorrow. if retailers are correct many moms will be enjoying more generous gifts this year. this year's market research predicts mother's day spend sing up. so what do moms really want? let's check in with vera gibbons. >> this mom just wants to sleep in. >> good luck with that.

>> spending is up. feeling in the mood to give our mothers something, giving them love, luxury. spending on average $140 a person. $14 more than last year. tote afl spending of $16.3 billion. that's good. >> is this surprising you? >> it is a little bit surprising. given that gas prices are so high, food prices are so high. we love our moms. we are giving them what they deserve. >> what are we buying for them? >> flowers. >> big one. two-thirds are buying flowers. my mom is a nflower person. jewelry sales are up. $3 billion on jewelry. up 19% from last year. to another -- you know, consumers buying clothing, and accessories. 1.2 billion on personal services, massages, manicure, pedicure. >> you know what i'm hearing a lot about, people are -- i heard some friends saying we are getting together and giving our

mom an ipad. electron electronic. >> you are seeing more of that. last year 9% said they were buying their mom electronics. this year 13% of consumers are buying their mom electronic things. tablets, iphones. >> increase of 48%. moms are becoming p more tech savvy. >> they have to keep up with the kids, communicate with them. >> they definitely have to keep up with the kids. >> what about -- i would think restaurants get a break on -- big -- >> huge boost. . 65% of us bringing our mom to brunch, dinner. huge day for restaurants. you are going out for a late mother's day. >> may have to do a late one. i'm here working. that's okay. 3 billion on dining out. brunch is the big one. >> yeah. dinner works, too. for you. >> thank you for that. >> thanks. still ahead, how the u.s. raid on osama bin laden's compound in pakistan will change america's

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al qaeda's vowing to avenge bin laden's death. some say if the terror group savvy enough to hide bin laden for ten years, it shouldn't be underestimated now that its figurehead is gone. christopher dickie "newsweek's" middle east regional editor and co-wrote an article on bin laden, "upcoming issue on "newsweek." a decade on the lam. what took so long for the u.s. to nab him? was al qaeda crafty, brilliant? was it luck or a bit of both? >> it was all those things. i think we really do have to ask a lot of questions as everybody is doing about the world pakistan played. i mean, the guy was standing in the most ostentatious villa in a

town where the military academy are west point, of pakistan was literally just down the street. so, you know, he was more than hiding in plain sight. i'm not sure the pakistanis are going to be backing anybody else or playing those kinds of games again if they were. i don't think anybody else could hide out that long. >> we have all wondered how close we might have gotten to him over the years. in fact, in your article, you describe an amazing moment in 2004 when u.s. soldiers came so close to bin laden's hiding place that they were spotted by his guards. >> that's right. we have -- we have a great team of people reporting in pakistan and afghanistan. and they go out and talk to the people who were -- really on the taliban's side. sometimes very close to al qaeda. and they were told back in 2003, 2004 about the incident where an army patrol, u.s. army patrol, was approaching bin laden's hideout.

and his people saw them. they thought that this is it. they could vm to get him and they were about to speak the code word that would have led to his suicide and their suicide. then suddenly the guys turned away and didn't actually know what they were looking for. it was just a coincidence. >> how key is it that bin laden apparently stayed away from all technology to try to avoid his capture? he didn't have a phone. he had a computer but no internet access. did that make all of the difference? >> it certainly made a difference because the cia, the -- the national security agency, the american intelligence community is the best in the world. at tracking electronics signals and all kinds of ways. some of which i'm sure pretty scary. and they were able to hone in on all of his top lieutenants whenever those top lieutenants would make contact with the outside world. that's how they nailed mohammed in 2003.

that's how they nailed his successor the year after. if you were the number three guy, guy that was supposed to communicate with the outside world, your freedom was very limited. >> why now? what do you think that put together all the ingredients that made osama bin laden's capture and ultimate killing now as opposed to a couple of years ago, five years ago? what was it? >> i think it is important that the cia particularly has come back very strong after 15 years ago which was really when the hunt started 15 or more years ago. the cia was very weak and had very few people who could actually operate on the ground. since 9/11, you had a huge increase of what they call case officers. people who know how to run agents and know how to recruit people on the ground from the local communities. but they were being trained ten years ago. they had become experienced

officers since and there were hundreds of them on the ground in various forms in pakistan over the last couple of years in the pursuit of bin laden. that plus technical intelligence, i think, was absolutely the key. >> christopher dickie, always the key to our great discussions. thanks so much. >> okay, thank you, alex. coming up in the next hour here on msnbc saturday, sky high gas prices may finally be coming down. we will give you the update on that. plus it has been three weeks since 20-year-old nursing student holly went missing set off a massive search. are investigators any closer to finding her? e for 20 cents less. what?! -match it! -match it! -match it! match it! -match it! -match it! 20 cents less. what?! just match it... -match it! -match it! -match it! -match it! -match it! -match it! -[ horn honks ] -match it! -match it! -match it! thank you, got it. i'll match that price right here. oh! cool. [ male announcer ] we won't be beat.

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