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right now on "msnbc saturday," new intelligence. we are awaiting a briefing from the pentagon where we are expecting to learn more about what was found inside osama bin laden's home. we have a live report from the pentagon. rising river. memphis braces for the wrath of the mighty mississippi and even more severe flooding. swarming the store, dozens of teens are accused of walking into a store at the same time and swiping items right off the shelves. good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt. welcome to "msnbc saturday."
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10:00 a.m. on the east coast, 7:00 out west. while the pentagon is expected to release new information on osama bin laden today. officials will discuss intelligence gathered from the trove of handwritten documents and information, all found at his pakistani mansion. it appears the obama administration is looking for answers. "the new york times" reports the white house is investigating members of the pakistani government who could have known about bin laden's home. officials have reportedly demanded names of pakistani intelligence officials. let's get more on all these new details expected from the pentagon today. nbc pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski is joining me now. let's get the latest. what do you know about what's coming up? >> we'll hear from intelligence officials about some of the items and some of the valuable information. they've already gleaned from those thousands of documents that were retrieved from osama bin laden's compound there in abbottabad from computers, hard drives, paper files, actually, that expanded well beyond
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anybody's anticipations. about what bin laden would have had there. he was always so careful in covering his tracks. we've already heard, for example, that there were plots to attack u.s. trains in major cities, although nothing is imminent. even the names some of individuals who have already been put on terrorist watch lists just within a couple of days of getting that material back to the u.s. for analysis by both the fbi and the cia. but we're also getting reports that there may somebody videos of osama bin laden released at the compound himself. showing a pattern of life and proof, actually, that he indeed was at that compound, not necessarily when he was there, although that appears beyond dispute at this point. proof that he was there and quite frankly, one remarkable thing, alex, is that we're also gathering information that indicates that osama bin laden may have been a prisoner himself. that he may have never left that compound for as long as three to
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five years. >> wow! now, talk about the pentagon, just background. when you're trying to prepare for a news briefing of this kind with this kind of sensitive information, how much do they have to go over all of the details, cross the ts, dot the is, make sure they're not overstepping anything they don't want to talk about. >> that is one of the primary concerns, particularly in the immediate hours after such an operation. they don't want to give any details of what they found necessarily or of the methods and sources of intelligence and those operations themselves, because they don't want to give any clues to the bad guys. about how to avoid or protect themselves against these kind of assaults. i can tell you they have gone over this material meticulously to be able to provide some information to the public. perhaps even in an advisory manner to have people keep their eyes open. most of all when they go over
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this material, they're not going to release anything that could tip off anybody that the u.s. may now be hot on their trail. >> you know, i've spoke within a former cia operative this morning, other anti-terrorism analysts. the sense i get, they would rather not have to release any information, just keep it to themselves and work on it. >> yes and no. if you're talking to the special operations forces, the s.e.a.l.s, delta force rangers, they in fact would prefer none of the details be leaked about any of their operations, because they are very sensitive. and they could down the road threaten the lives of some operators if in fact the enemy forces are prepared for what has already been publicized. but there are -- and quite frankly, that's why they're called the silent professionals. at the same time, there are many not only within the administration, within the u.s. government but within the military itself that wants to
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get the word out about just how well this operation went down and i've already heard it referred to as probably the single most successful military operation since d-day. >> i have to tell you, we know when thing, it was gutsy. all right. jim miklaszewski, we'll be speaking with you next hour. thanks so much. >> you bet. >> new details are emerging in pakistan this morning on osama bin laden's years of hiding in plain sight. ann curry is in islamabad with more. >> reporter: multiple pakistani intelligence sources are reportedly saying one of osama bin laden's wives now in custody is saying they lived even closer to islamabad, for two years before moving to the compound in abbottabad. this would mean bin laden was hiding for at least a total of seven years in pakistan's urban areas. right under the nose of this country's intelligence services. this can only fuel tensions between the united states and pakistan.
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coordinated protests announcing the u.s. raid that killed osama bin laden struck multiple cities in pakistan on friday. as al qaeda reacted for the first time, threatening americans on its official media website. soon with god's help, we shall flip their celebrations into sorrow, and their blood shall mix with their tears. >> in al qaeda's language, soon could be anything from the next three days to the next three years. it's very difficult to know and it's important to emphasize that al qaeda uses this language whether or not they actually have an attack in store. >> reporter: these images are the newest from inside bin laden's compound. where u.s. intelligence officials tell nbc news bin laden was far from retired and was in fact still al qaeda's operational leader. u.s. intelligence also tells nbc news, quote, a lot of video as well as details of plots around the world and associates were found. local intelligence officials in
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abbottabad say the compound is now cleansed, washed of all evidence and sealed. there were reports that pakistani security has as many as three of bin laden's whiffs in custody. now, under interrogation. the cia has asked pakistani officials for access to the wives. especially to amal, bin laden's last and favorite wife. amal was known to be devoted to bin laden and was in the room when her husband died. amal has reportedly told interrogators that bin laden and his family had been living in the abbottabad compound for the past five years. and "the new york times" is reporting this morning that u.s. officials have demand pakistan identify some of its top intelligence operatives to see if they had any contact with bin laden in recent years. this as some officials in the united states have publicly questioned whether anyone here knew we was hiding and had helped to shield him. alex? >> ann curry in islamabad, thank you. coming up at the half hour,
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i'll talk with new york democratic congressman elliott engel. we invite all of you to watch "meet the press" tomorrow. among the guests, white house national security adviser, tom donilon and rudy jewgiuliani, michael chertoff and michael hayden. record water levels among the mighty mississippi. they are expected to be broken as the mississippi continues to rise this weekend. many residents who have never seen much flooding before are facing the painful possibility of evacuating. in memphis, tennessee, several homes are already flooded and evacuations are taking place. >> i have a lot of my mom's stuff in there. i don't know if i can even get in. you can only do what you can. >> let's go live again to nbc's jay gray in memphis for us. jay, it's an incredible scene
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there. we're looking at beale street, the famous beale street. it looks like a river. >> it is part of the mississippi river. over its banks and into the middle of beale street here. just talking with julie mart front weather channel, she says we're going to see showers here today, exactly what they don't need as they deal with all of this water adding to the misery. look, it's not even forecast to crest, the mississippi, until sometime wednesday. it's already washed away neighborhoods in the suburbs of memphis. hundreds of people have moved into shelters, thousands of families were advised yesterday they need to move to higher ground. this is say situation like we talked about, alex, that's going to continue to intensify until that crest at about 48 feet on wednesday. yeah, shelters are open, more are opening. police are blocking off roadways in this area and across the midsouth as you've talked about, as they continue to deal with the rising mississippi river. and it's just getting worse as we go along. it's a big weekend here in memphis. they've got an nba playoff game
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here, a barbecue cookoff was supposed to be in a park along the river. it's been moved to higher ground as well. they're adapting but everyone kind of watching, waiting, very anxious to see what happens. >> indeed. okay. jay gray, thank you very much from the middle of beale street. >> you bet. >> not that you'd be able to tell, though. thanks. let's get a check on the saturday forecast from bill karins. good morning. >> a good saturday to you, alex, we're watching the mississippi river with the flooding, heavy rain in missouri. a loot of people curious about the kentucky derby forecast, the run for the roses. let he had break down the forecast. it's actually a little bit tricky. around the country, the biggest area of rain, we have two of they will, one with showers and thunderstorms rolling through missouri and more rain back up through idaho and montana. it's that area of rain in missouri and illinois, that little weak storm system that will blow through kentucky during the day today. we do expect wet weather at the track. the key is the timing of that rain. you can see it south of st. louis and southern illinois. looks like the heaviest of the rain will miss the louisville
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area. there will be showers in the forecast. our futurecast, eastern time, of course we're central time in louisville, right around 10:00 to 11:00 a.m., showers will probably be rolling through for the beginning of the race card. then we get a break. the actual race doesn't go off until 5:24 local time, about 6:24 east coast time. it looks like by the time the race goes, a lot of the wet weather should be south of the louisville area. the forecast, i'm going to call nor a 30% chance of showers. i think most of the showers will roll through before the race. that's on nbc sports from 4:00 to 7:00 east coast time. the southern half of the country looks great and mother's day, not bad. watch out for a few showers and storms in the carolinas, the d.c. and also in the northern rockies. as we go throughout this weekend, alex, it doesn't look like anyone is going to get washed out. it's a pretty nice spring forecast. back to you. >> that's good to hear. thanks, bill karins. details on the threat posed to al qaeda in the wake of osama
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bin laden's death. has the loss of their leader weakened the terror group. and apple makes a change to the iphone. and it's being called a swarm robbery. we'll tell you the story behind this video next on "msnbc saturday." we can design an arrangement that is sure to delight. [ doorbell ] 1-800-flowers. ohh! take our "tote-ally" original, "tote-ally" mom bouquet, a stylish gift that fits her perfectly. this mother's day, don't settle for the ordinary. send a creation that's truly her. call, click or come in, and let us arrange a smile for you this mother's day, starting at $29.99.
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president obama is getting ready for the public weekly address. senator scott brown called this a fine moment for our country. he gave credit to obama's predecessor. >> bin laden's killing was the result of coordinated efforts going back many years. it was the dramatic conclusion of patient intelligence gathering begun long before and the work of a military that is second to none.
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this was the pledge of president george w. bush in the days after 9/11 and he kept it in seven years of relentless, decisive action against the al qaeda network. >> and the white house reporter for "the washington post." ann, good morning to you. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> how much credit does president obama owe president bush? there was information gained as controversy sal as it has been, you know what i'm talking about, waterboarding there. >> president obama has mentioned him. he invited him to go with him to ground zero earlier this week. president bush declined. the intelligence gathering, the operations president bush set in motion, they are grateful president bush did so. there are a lot of partisans that president obama shouldn't get credit for anything,
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waterboard i waterboarding, harsh interrogation tactics don't deserve any credit. it's hard to turn back the clock. we may never know exactly what came from whom. that said, if we put it in the white house's words, they're expressing gratitude. >> i'm curious, do you think there is a place for bipartisan bickering if you want to call it that, over things like a war on terrorism? i know that's a nomenclature from the white house right now. does that make sense that people are going back and forth about who gets credit verse white house doesn't or is it because this is a heightened political season ahead of next year's elections? >> i think there have been legitimate differences between the parties and the presidents over how to conduct what bush, as you mentioned, called the war on terror and this white house
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does not, not only over how to treat detainees but where to go to war, whether it should be focused on counterterrorism or the insurgency. i don't think it's surprising that going forward each side will pick the evidence they want, about why this was successful. i guess we would all hope it would last more than 24 hours, the bipartisanship that came out of this. there's an election next year. there will be a debate over who gets credit, who was right, who was wrong. i don't think there's denying that president obama at least for now, probably at least the next few weeks gets the lion's share of the credit. >> this president has been very careful not to make this last week seem like his victory lap, if you will. he'd be loathed to call it that. does he need to claim credit and has he been able to toe the line appropriately? >> i don't think he does need to claim credit. certainly the white house has made the case it speaks for itself and that even a low-key
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tour of the kind that he's been on this week, going to ground zero, going to ft. campbell yesterday, speaks for itself. there's probably nobody in the country who doesn't know that bin laden was killed this week and that president obama is the president who ordered the mission. he doesn't need to say anything. there wl there will be a durable bounce for him is another question. i think for now, he's probably best leaving it -- heralding it less in the way that he has been. >> in terms of a bounce, i know you're well aware that this week's "washington post" research poll showed that his approval rating has shot up to 56%. do you think this will last? could this give him a long-term boost or be the foundation for one even to the 2012 elections? >> it could be. but you know, if you think back to december of 2003 when president bush oversaw the capture of saddam hussein, he saw very similar bounce, almost identical numbers, especially
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among independents, and that only lasted six weeks. he was in an election year, too. i don't think it would be surprising at all. obama's advisers say, he will get a temporary bounce from this. if it lasts another year and a half, that would be shocking. that's why you saw the president go out, before he went to ft. campbell, he went to indianapolis and talked about the economy. you'll hear him talk about that, gas prices, the unemployment rate which ticked back up a little bit yesterday. their view, the white house view and i think most political strategists would agree, people, sure, they want to win a battle against terrorism, they also really want their pocketbooks to be strong. you can't do one and not the other. >> indeed. we'll be speaking with you again next hour. thanks so much. >> thank you. will this week's dramatic drop in oil prices ease the pain at the pump? plus, tomorrow is mother's day and americans are shelling out more money for their moms this year. we'll find out which gifts are most popular.
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apple is upgrading its iphone operating system. it reduces the amount of location data in iphone sforpz apple came under scrutiny after word came out iphones stored unincrypted data on location sometimes for months. consumers are reaching for their credit cards once again. the federal reserve says consumers increased overall borrowing by $6 billion in march. credit card borrowing alone increased for the second time since august of 2008. staff reductions could be coming to delta airlines. the company launched a new round of voluntary buyouts and early retirement plans. mother's day is tomorrow. if retailers are correct, many moms will be enjoying more generous gifts this year.
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this year's market research predicts mother's day spending is up. what do moms really want in the let's check in with vera gibbons. good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> i know you're getting your mom something. >> i already got her something. >> turn off the tv. >> moms are getting pampered in the like this year, spas, things like that. >> all that fun stuff. you're not a spa person but most of these moms are. we're spending on average $140, up $14 from last year, total spending coming in at 1 $.3 billion. consumers are in a better position to spend. people are slowly getting jobs. we saw the new jobs numbers out yesterday. they're feeling more confident about the economy and, therefore, spending a little bit more on mom. >> other than spa, what about the kind of gifts that can be wrapped up. >> flowers is the big one. standard thing, right? . two-thirds of us are buying mom
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flowers. a couple billion dollars spent on that. apparel, accessories, jewelry sales are up as well. which is a positive sign for the economy. $3 billion on jewelry. $1.6 billion on gift cards. and then another $1.2 billion on other things such as spa services, personal services falls into that category. spas and whatnot. >> the thing i find surprising, tricks. you don't think about mom as being active in tricks. >> they're becoming much more tech savvy. more people are buying their mom tricks, e-readers, digital cameras. only 9% of us last year were going to buy mom electronics. this year it's up to 13%. that's a rise of 48%. as you pointed out, they have to keep up with their kids. they have to stay technologically savvy. >> restaurants? >> big day for restaurants. 55% of us plan to take mom out for brunch or dinner.
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$3 billion spent on frefrg eeve from eggs benedict and more. >> which i'll miss because i'll be working. >> you'll have your celebration after the show. >> well, look forward to that. >> happy mother's day, alex. >> enjoy. say hello to your mom. you can tell me later what you got her. al qaeda vows to avenge the death of osama bin laden. plus, we are keeping an eye on the rising mississippi river. we get an update on the dire situation in memphis as the residents brace for more flooding. hot or cold, keurig is the way to brew everyone's favorite cup in under a minute. choose. brew. enjoy. keurig.
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with a bipartisan delegation. lawmakers will meet with nuri al maliki and they'll be briefed from u.s. officials. japan wants a power plan to the suspend all three reactors at a coastal nuclear plant. the government wants a sea wall built and backup systems improved to prevent another radiation crisis if there's another earthquake or tsunami again. the obama administration is reportedly digging deeper to see if pakistan knew where osama bin laden was hiding. "the new york times" reports the white house is demanding names of top pakistani intelligence agents. athena jones is at the white house for us. let's talk about the relationship between the white house and pakistan today. a little stressed out, wouldn't you say? >> reporter: it certainly appears to be strained right now. one thing that's important to note that is u.s. officials have been careful and skin to the point out that that the relationship between the u.s. and pakistan is a crucial one. it's vital to have this partnership, to fight this war
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against al qaeda and other extremists. the u.s. provides billions of dollars in aid to pakistan on a yearly basis. that's unlikely to change. neither side can really afford to see a wholesale breakdown of this relationship. first you have that. at the same time, you have -- people are asking here at the white house and through the u.s. government whether this was a case of willful blindness. this compound where osama bin laden was found was an extraordinary complex. it was unique, eight times larger than the buildings around it. it had these 12 to 18-foot walls topped with barbed wire. you wonder why it wouldn't have stuck out like a sore thumb in this town. you have a lot of questions being asked about that, what pakistan knew, who knew it. john brennan said it's inconceivable that osama bin laden wouldn't have had some kind of support in pakistan, whether from the government on an official level or some sort of unofficial, nongovernmental
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level. so there are a lot of questions being asked about that. as you know, he was there at this compound for around five years. he wasn't somewhere off in the mountainous border regionen in a cave. he was 35 miles north of islamabad. with this "new york times" report that officials are looking to find out more from pakistani officials, pakistani intelligence officials what they might have known and what kind of contact they had from bin laden, you can expect that to continue. >> incredible to think of where he was this whole time. may i ask you about the recent drone strike in yemen this week. it was the first one since 2002 targeting al maliki. >> you can be certain that the white house -- this white house, this obama white house has made it a top priority to track these members of al qaeda, track down other extremists who could be associated with al qaeda in any way. of course, this is say
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multi-front war. yemen is just one of the places that's a front. without really getting into specifics about what went down or what their strategy is or any changes to it, you can certainly be sure that the u.s. is trying to track down these people and target them either bring them to justice or eliminate them in whatever way they can. >> athena jones at the white house. thank you. >> thanks. security was ramped up across america this week with local law enforcement up to the fbi. a "new york times"/cbs news poll this week found six in ten americans believed killing bin laden increases the threat of terrorism against the united states. joining me now, democratic congressman from new york, elliott engel. good to see you. >> good to be back. thank you. >> let's talk about our safety. do you think we are safer now with bin laden dead? you can answer that question both short term and long term. >> i don't think we're safer or less safe. i think that al qaeda is there. they're with bin laden, they'll be there without bin laden. these are radical people who are
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intent to do us harm. i think what we showed we will track down those who do us harm and we will give them their just rewards. i think it was a terrific thing. he prey shows he fights the wa terrorism, he's tough on national security. these are people, their whole philosophy is they hate everything that we stand for. i don't think in the long run it makes us safer or unsafe. but in the short run it sure does feel good, particularly being a new yorker and seeing so many of my constituents and friends killed, this is something we had to do. it was almost like an obsession and rightfully so. >> what do you think about the president's position to not release any of the photos of the deceased bin laden? >> i agree with it. when i initially heard about it, i thought, gee, we should release them to prove to the world he's dead. i think in hindsight it's probably better not to release it. even obama's people the other
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day admit thaad was dead and said that he was dead. >> al qaeda did so on the website. >> he's dead. everybody knows he's dead. i don't think the pictures need to be there for proof. >> what about the u.s. mission in afghanistan, we're there to root out terrorism and to go after terrorists. does this at all change that mission? and does it bring the possibility of bringing troops home sooner? >> well, i don't think it changes the mission in the fact that obama's dead -- >> osama. believe me, it's a common mistake. >> osama's dead. i'm not sure that's the best way to contain al qaeda. i think we need to kind of look
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and see a strategy. i don't want us bogged down in a war that lasts five years, ten years, 20 years more. >> what about the position on waterboarding, these, quote, enhanced interrogation techniques. there's some evidence to suggest it was waterboarding that helped deliver information that was used ultimately in this raid that got osama bin laden. should the president revisit that? >> well, that's a really tough call. my gut is that we can get information that we need without waterboarding or things like that. we do have these prisoners at guantanamo, some of them are talking. i don't think you need waterboarding to get things out of them. i think that we have other ways of doing it. i think they're almost nearly as effective. >> what about pakistan clamoring for america to reduce its u.s. military presence there? >> well, i'm really disappointed in pakistan. i believe that the pakistani government or at least the
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intelligence services had to have known something was up. you don't put osama bin laden so near the capital islamabad in a town where there are retired military, somebody knew. lots of people knew. i just think that pakistan is playing a little duplicitis game. we need to deal with what we have. we should make it very well known that we're not pleased and they knew it was there. no one is going to convince me otherwise. >> u.s. representative elliott engel from new york. thank you. >> thank you. the agency will brief the media at noon eastern. evan coleman is an nbc news terrorism analyst. he joins us now. good morning to you, evan. >> good morning. >> we've heard from nbc's jim
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miklaszewski earlier that bin laden may not have left this compound for maybe like a five-year period. what does that say? >> well, number one, it tells us that there are not that many places where bin laden could go that he would be safe, clearly even in pakistan bin laden had to be careful that he wasn't seen by the wrong people. he was sequestered in this one location that apparently al qaeda viewed as being beyond the reach of the united states. it was nowhere near where the drones were flying over. in al qaeda's estimation he was perfectly safe chilling out at this one location. but you also have to wonder how pless and that the was for bin laden and his family to be stuck, literally inside your own prison, even a quote, unquote, mansion, it doesn't sound terribly fun or scintillating for five years. >> i can imagine. i know you check the jihadist message boards. what's the latest chatter there? >> we're seeing al qaeda affiliates and franchise movements around the world are sending their congratulations on
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the martyrdom of bin laden, talking about how he led the jihadi movement around the world, inspired groups around the world. they're rallying to al qaeda's side. we've even seen a couple factions identify, ayman al zawahari as the new amir and congratulating him. he seems like the obvious choice. he has some problems. he has leadership issues. we'll have to see if that's exactly what's going to happen. that is the perception of al qaeda's affiliates and franchises. >> two different stories coming out of bin laden. and his efficacy as the leader of al qaeda. the u.s. says he was able to plot future attacks, pakistani authorities say the man was pen penniless, barely clinging to power. how about the evidence? >> i wouldn't believe a word the pakistanis say right now, not a
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word. i think the evidence was clear that bin laden was still playing an operational role in controlling al qaeda's operations. he wasn't micromanaging every last detail. he might not have known the names of the operatives but clearly he was coming up with ideas to attack the united states here inside the u.s. borders. he was working out the details with other al qaeda operatives. he was approving operations. this is someone who is clearly still playing an important role in al qaeda's terrorist attacks around the world, including targets in the united states. so, again, i don't think you can believe a word the pakistanis say right now. they have no credibility. >> okay. evan coleman, you do, as always. talk to you next hour. >> thank you very much. coming up, more on whether pakistani intelligence officials can be trusted. on "meet the press," david gregory will talk with national security adviser, tom donilon. the mississippi river is not
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expected to crest until next week. farms, small towns, some urban areas already under water. including parts of memphis, tennessee. joining me live on the phone is tennessee state senate majority leader is representative marcus. >> i know your coverage has been great. i want to thank you and jay gray and bill karins and everyone else who have been covering this so closely. it really helps us communicate information that people need to know. it's overwhelming when you see it. as one of your commentators said, it's a slow-moving disaster, a watery waiting game for us here. the river is mighty mississippi indeed. it's just -- it's strange to see water where you've never seen it before. >> i can imagine. how about in terms of what's being done to help the people affected by the flooding? just the basics, getting word out that you need to get out. is that going smoothly? >> we had smaller floods a year or so ago.
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i can see a marked improvement between a year ago and today's efforts. coordinating the command and control for something like this is a major undertaking. you've got not only your emergency services but information and planning and the human needs and the psychological toll that is taken at a time like this is really just beginning, some of the folks you've interviewed on msnbc, events that. it's going to get worse as the water creeps up and as people, you know, begin to comprehend the magnitude of what's hit them, it will be the next three weeks to a month where we really have to kick in and make sure folks know that we care and that we're in place to try and help in any way we can. >> given the nature of this, as you've just talked about, this being a slow-moving disaster, what is your major concern at this point? is it long range or do you worry about the immediacy of getting people out of harm's way? >> we've been focused on that, worked on evacuating in the memphis area about 1,000 homes and businesses in the last 24
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hours. it's really the long range, the long haul we have to begin to focus on to make sure there's a coordination of communication, that people know we are in touch, because it's a slow process, even when people have undivided attention to get the kind of relief and information they need to get their lives back to normal. so the corps of engineers moved their mobile joint information center into memphis last night from missouri. their emergency command and control vehicle is here. we're working even down to the level of our wildlife resource agency, of all things, right now it's cottonmouth breeding season in the midsouth. we're worried about people getting bites from poisonous snakes. >> whoa. >> all of that to consider. >> that's a lot to have on your plate. tennessee state senate majority leader, mark norris. best of luck. we'll be watching. >> thank you. for more on the flooding and the weather where you are, head to weather.com.
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oil prices dropped dramatically this week, falling about 9% on thursday. that left the average price of gas hovering just under $4 a gallon across the country. nbc's kevin tipples is joining me live in studio instead of out and about like you usually are. it's good to see you. this dip in the price of oil, is it expected to translate into cheaper prices at the pump? >> we were getting conditioned for $4, even $5 gas for the summer driving season and
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presto, change-o, pop, it all drops. as the oil price skyrocket plummeted this week, it was pandemonium on trading floors worldwide, the same speculation that pushed prices up brought them down again, closing at $97 a barrel. >> that process is under way now. >> a combination of bad weather, refinery maintenance and mideast turmoil put oil prices through the roof. aaa says a gallon of regular gas sits today at $3.98. this time last year was more than a buck cheaper. the wild fluctuation in prices turned us all into mini speculators. do you fill up thinking the price is going to be higher next time or just put in ten bucks hoping it's going to go down? >> morning, steve. >> morning. >> reporter: others fight back. these chicago commuters save money belonging to a van pool. >> i probably save about $90 a
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month. so if you figure that over the course of a year you're talking about a thousand dollars. >> it just amazes me that a lot more people aren't looking for alternative ways to commute back and forth to work. >> reporter: the department of energy says people have changed their habits, resulting in a 2% drop in demand for gas and that could soon translate into lower prices. >> i'm expecting gasoline prices right now are peaking and as we go through the summer they will begin to decline. >> reporter: any more sun -- uncertainty, they could rise again. prices should start coming down at the pump sometime very soon except of course in chicago where i live, where they always seem to have the highest gas prices. so if you're going to go driving this summer, it's going to be a case of gas price roulette, i'm afraid. >> i think it will. think about the poor folks in hawaii. >> indeed. >> you live in a paradise but you have to pay for it,
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apparently. thank you very much, kevin tibbles. >> sure. now that we know osama bin laden was hiding out less than a mile away from pakistan's military academy for five years, how can the country be trusted? that's next on "msnbc saturday." [ technician ] are you busy? management just sent over these new technical manuals. they need you to translate them into portuguese. by tomorrow. [ male announcer ] ducati knows it's better for xerox to manage their global publications. so they can focus on building amazing bikes. with xerox, you're ready for real business.
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new this morning, the u.s. wants pakistan to name its top intelligence agents. that is according to a report "new york times" in the. the paper is reporting the obama administration wants to determine whether any of pakistan's intelligence operatives had any contact with osama bin laden or his agents before the raid. joining me now, retired army colonel and military analyst, jack jacobs. good morning to you. >> good morning, alex. >> let's talk about what we know, osama bin laden was living in this compound right next to pakistan's version of west point for some three years or so, maybe up to five years. >> i think the place was put together in '05. i think he's been there at least six years, five or six.
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>> giving even more credence to this question. do you believe people in the area, intelligence, military officers, did they know osama bin laden was in that compound? >> oh, sure. and any statements to the contrary have got to be baloney. you can't be next to the biggest compound in the area, except for the military, and not know that it was there. especially since it had no connections electronic connections to the outside world. burned their trash and all. >> couldn't that have kept the identity of osama bin laden a secret? >> certainly somebody was living there who didn't want to be known. the conclusion was very, very easy that it was bin laden. furthermore, there's very little doubt in anybody's mind that the information that we gleaned on that raid is going to show probably fairly substantial connections to people, not only in the pakistani government but particularly in the isi, the intelligence community. >> which of course, information we'll be expecting to hear, the
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extent of which we don't know from a news conference in about an hour. tension building these last few days between the united states and pakistan. going forward, how cooperative do you think the pakistani government will be? >> they haven't been cooperative up until now. they've been sporadically helpful. they would assist sometimes in northwest pakistan, going after the taliban. it was the pakistani taliban. they've been extremely difficult. they've been reluctant to assist us. we shoveled billions of dollars to them every single year. i think that they're still not going to be helpful going forward. as a matter of fact, there will be some people in the government, probably further down the chain of command and certainly in the intelligence community who are very, very scared that the names will be released or certainly will be known by the american government. >> okay. thank you very much, colonel jack jacobs. >> you're welcome. >> and as mentioned, we are one hour away from a pentagon briefing where we'll learn more
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about what the navy s.e.a.l.s seized from osama bin laden's compounds. there are reports that officials will reveal never before seen home video of bin laden. stay with us here on "msnbc saturday." every room every day. like this one. and oops, my bad. so, they give expedia ginormous discounts with these: unpublished rates. which means i get an even more rockin' hotel. for less. where you book matters. expedia. we'll handcraft an arrangement that is sure to delight. ohh! take our "tote-ally" original, "tote-ally" mom bouquet, a stylish gift that fits her perfectly. let us arrange a smile for you, starting at $29.99.
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