next on msnbc sunday, the power of the tape. what do the home videos reveal? why are they so valuable on the fight against terror? that straight ahead. and then the mississippi river reaches record levels. we're live from the flood zone. and the murder of a neo-nazi dad. his 10-year-old son is accused of pulling the trigger. and miracle in the mountains. a woman survive as seven-week road trip gone wrong, but what has happened to her husband. it's 9:00 in the east, and 6:00 out west, and happy

mother's day to mothers out there. and then a launch on bin laden's legacy by releasing secret videos of the leader that were not supposed to see the light of day. one shows a tired bin laden watching reports of himself on tv. and then one shows him flubbing his lines. another good morning to you, mike. tell us more about the tapes. >> u.s. intelligence officials are saying the information gathered at the bin laden compound last week in the rate provided the single largest collection of senior terrorism material ever. but when it comes to the release of the videos of osama bin la n laden, that was the star of the show in yesterday's briefing, and it wasn't pretty.

the videotapes at first appear to be all too familiar. a bin laden delivering another anti-american rant, but now we get a glimpse of bin laden, not as a notorious terrorists, but as a prisoner in his own compound. he's watching videos of himself, and he appears as a old man, and the room is sparse and hardly a mansion. and unlike the staged videos, where his beard is died black, but this time it's gray. >> at the end, here he died isolated, a prisoner, as if he had been in a maximum security for the better part of five years. >> the u.s. government released the tapes to betray bin laden.

bin laden is seen stumbling through his lines and glancing off camera for direction. pictures can be deceiving. and u.s. intelligence officials say bin laden was still actively involved in the strategic and tactical operations of al qaeda, and still interested in attacking the u.s., targets that would create mass casualties, such as planes or trains. for nearly ten years, he's also been on the run. the past five years confined to this compound, surrounded only by close family and a couple of trust trusted kerrerss. >> he never left a compound and got on a telephone and lived

trying to survive against the surveillance and scrutiny of the united states. >> at the same time, officials claim bin laden's death has thrown off al qaeda. >> u.s. intelligence officials are saying there is no evidence interestingly enough that the pakistani government knew that osama bin laden had been hiding there in the compound for as long as he did. but there are suggestions that perhaps the pakistani, at least elements of pakistani military or intelligent services knew, and there are very serious discussions back and forth between the u.s. and the pakistanis about what they knew and when did they know it. >> do they give an station of how long it will take to go through all the information? >> they haven't. they are rushing to see if there is anything actionable in terms

of anything pending, any operations by al qaeda, or if they can identify individuals that they did not know before, and try to get their hands on them before they run for cover. >> of course. that would be the optimal thing to do. pakistan is facing new pressure from all sides after the u.s. raid that took out bin laden. the u.s. wants to question the wives and children who were caught at the compound, and pakistan's own citizens want their government to explain why they wanted to stopped raid in the first place. what is the reaction of pakistan, first up to the release of the new bin laden videos? >> reporter: alex, that's a good question. they have been dispersed throughout the country on the television news channels here. a lot of people are having their first chance to weigh in on them. if the intention of the u.s. government was to put to rest doubts that bin laden lived here and that he was killed here, it

certainly failed in that respect. the people that we have spoke to are doubtful that osama bin laden was killed and that he did live here. this is a culture of conspiracy and skepticism. they doubt their own government and the immediate yeah and they absolutely doubt the u.s. government, specifically about the ideas when we asked people today at one of the parks here where people are gathering because it's a holiday of shorts here, and the folks said one of the spots where he is flipping him on the remote, you see just his profile and how do we know that's him. we know there are look a-likes and impausers out there, and how do we know it's him. and it's obvious the officials here in pakistan are embarrassed by this. >> peter, what about the wives being questioned? they are not being questioned by

the u.s. are we learning anything from them? >> reporter: well the u.s. wants access to those wives, and certainly to the information they are providing to the pakistani intelligence. it's unclear whether that will happen. there are reports the youngest wife, who was living with bin laden told authorities here that before they were living at that site beginning in 2005, that they lived elsewhere, and even closer in the capital city, in a small village of shaw muhammad. it's a farming area and i spoke to many people living there. there are maybe 3,000 or 4,000 people living there. and they made it clear, they don't believe he was living here. and they said if he had been here, we would have seen him.

>> is there any evidence or discussion of bin laden's wives getting out and about into the community when they lived there? we are told bin laden himself never left the compound, but what about the wives? >> reporter: that's a good question, and conversations we had in this community, it's important that you understand that wives would not have had that access, the ability to leave and go throughout the community. obviously they would have held close to bin laden, and likely would have been in no position to know what that community would look like, and they possibly could not have known where they lived prior to 2005. we will continue our coverage of bin laden, and look at the impact his death will have. more than 350 waking up in a

tennessee shelter after being evacuated from flooding homes. and more homes and businesses are currently in the flood-threat zone. the river is not expected to crest in memphis until late tomorrow. >> all of this water in, and there's nowhere for them to put it. they cannot go anywhere. it just sits. >> they don't have nowhere for this water to go, and it has to go somewhere and it's going to flood our house out. >> jay gray is live for us in memphis. look at you. talk about a difference in the last 24 hours. >> reporter: yeah, and alex, you are talking about nowhere for the water to go. i am in the play area behind a school. i will give you an example of what the water is doing. you see the row of homes. the first level of these homes is already under water. the homeowner here, the house

you are seeing, they moved out their furniture. only the roof of what is a utility shed here, it's about to be completely submerged as we watched the water continue to climb. and then you get to the school, and you can see the sandbag wall they built two or three days ago being pressed into service, and water up against the sandbags and it's only growing here. we learned overnight that the primary gauge they were using to try and measure the floodwaters in memphis was not working collectly. the water rising faster than forecasters first thought. they moved up the crest as you talked about. it was wednesday, and now they say it will be late tomorrow night or into tuesday morning. 48 feet, just .7 below the

all-time record. >> i have to ask you, and it's not because i am concerned for your safety, because i know you are protected, but i understand there has been a concern about snakes, this time of year, and all sorts of things in the water there. >> reporter: no question, alex. we have seen huge leachs in the water here, and snakes that move by. and the problem is these animals don't have anywhere to go so they are moving inland. you see a lot of that. this water is going to push the animals out, and push residents move into shelters. officials are saying time is running out if you need to move to higher ground. they expect at this point, as many as 20,000 people may need shelter before it's said and done. a lot of people, though, they are worried to leave things behind. and there is a big fear of

looters. we have had a few reports of that here. the police chief here in memphis, they cancelled all days off for all officers, and they are working around the clock on the issues to try and make people feel safer and make sure they move to higher ground. now is the time to do that. >> jay gray going the extra mile to give us the perspective. we got it. >> reporter: thank you. the weather channel's alex wallace keeping an eye on the situation. how is it looking out there, but, wow, we saw jay gray there giving us perspective. >> exactly. the rivers are not coming down anytime soon. a bad situation. we have flood warnings. plenty of them stretching into louisiana as well as the ohio river. and we talked about memphis. you were talking about memphis out there. flood stage is 34 feet. we're well above that and on our way to getting up above the major flood stage. 48 feet expected by monday.

that would put it newspaper there terms of historic floods. right around number two. we have a bad situation taking place. and now the big news in firms of the issues right now, rain not taking place in that area. we are seeing a few showers in north carolina and parts of virginia, and wet weather developing across the northern plains. that's an area we will watch closely. you can see the red-shaded area here, and watching for hail and damaging winds and a chance for a tornado on the low end of the scale, and then over night things spread off towards the east. >> thank you for the update. a canadian man is missing this morning, but his wife was found alive in nevada. she had been stranded for seven weeks, and it's an amazing story of survival. alive, atv riders found her friday after she had been missing for seven weeks. authorities say she was stranded in her van in the rugged

mountains in the mountains. she had trail mix and snow. she lost almost 30 pounds. now ruf ring at an idaho hospital, doctors say she's upbeat and doing remarkably well. >> she is doing well, and she has taken food in and so the doctors are confident about a recovery. >> they left their home in vancouver, british columbia, and headed to a trade show in vegas. that same day a surveillance video captured the braille in oregon, but then something went wrong about 400 miles later, when they got to nevada. >> apparently, they took a bad road, became stuck. >> authorities say rita told them after three days, her husband left their van on foot, with a gps to get help. she hasn't seen him since.

>> there was approximately a group of 20 individuals searching. they have six to eight atv vehicles and seververal 4 x 4 vehicles. >> and there is little cell service. still loved ones are holding on to hope. they travelled from canada to idaho to be with her, calling her survival a miracle. but the family will not have a truly happy ending until albert is also found. it's a murder case capturing worldwide attention, going to trial in the morning. why is the casey anthony trial attracting so much attention? we will take a look at that. why the unemployment line for teenagers looking for a summer job might not be color-blind. you are watching "msnbc sunday."

back now to the newly released bin laden videos taking down the terror leader's representation. it's easy to see why they were kept under wraps. when you see the graying terror leader sitting on the floor in a room with no furniture, it doesn't revoke the same reaction with one of the other produced tapes. thank you for your help during the breaking news. the biggest thing we can learn from the new videos, sir, is what? >> i think clearly it paints a picture of somebody that essentially was a prisoner of his surroundings for more than seven years, and five years in the same compound. i would not want to characterize this as command in control. he still had strategic impact on al qaeda, but hardly somebody

that could bring together unite the far-flung agents of al qaeda, nor could see receive delegations or do live tv. this was an isolated aging terrorists. >> how do you think it will affect al qaeda overall? >> it's a blow to him. he still had historic iconic value. and then the intelligence we're getting, alex, they won't know for two years who is under surveillance and who isn't, the al qaeda network. >> so that means they are all scattering. do you think it greatly impacted al qaeda's ability to invoke

terror anywhere? >> no question. it's a decentralized operation. it's moefshed into something quite difficult. who is going to take a phone call when the phone call could be being intercepted or you could be under observation yourself. you will have a great deal of difficulty getting together. i am sure starting with late that night, the first people were placed under sir surveill or snapped personally off the streets. saudi intelligence and uk intelligence, and everybody is working a treasure trove of information. >> thank you. and a magic man on the mound. who will he call after repeating history? we'll tell you! hi, this other store has these for 20 cents less.

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verlander has done it again. >> unreal. that's verlander of the detroit tigers, throwing his second no-hitter. he and the tigers yesterday beat the blue jays 9-0, and he said he was going to call his mother, and then call her again today because it's mother's day. a new study says it's going to be difficult for teens to find jobs this year, but especially for young african-american men. right now the current unemployment rate is 9%, and for teens it's 24.5%. and then for black teens, that is more than 42%. staggering numbers to talk about. joining me live, msnbc contributor, goldie taylor, and also contributor for agreo.com. the unemployment rate for african-american teens, it's so

high. we were discussing in the commercial, this has been a problem, but the numbers put against one another, shocking. >> they are shocking on the face, but when you look at the information driving the numbers, they are not coming to the workforce prepared. and you have the worse economic downturn of this generation. we have older, more mature americans taking over the seasonal summer jobs that the teens used to look forward to. >> what is it about african-american young men? is there something specific to that community that explains why they are being hit so hard? >> i am a mom, and i am a mom of five and i have sons. my 20-year-old son, joshua, and his high school graduating class, if he looked around his ninth grade class, his front,

back, side to side, many of them would not graduate. you have to ask yourself, are they ready for those jobs? >> right. here's the problem. you have to find short-term solutions to inspire and solve the problems of -- i mean, just getting money in for paying the bills, but you also have to deal with the long-term problem of education. >> there used to be programs city sponsored like summer work, the national urban league has programs target towards african-american teenagers. there are programs out there, but it takes knowing about them and getting the teens engaged in the programs. but today you cannot walk door to door and store to store, finding a job. and most of it's online. and many kids don't have access to online education, then you

have another barrier to the system. >> you as a mom of five, you can dispense advice there. what do you give them in terms of advice for teens planning to look for jobs this summer. what can they do? >> start early. start right now. if you are listening to my voice today and you have not begun looking for your summer job, i encourage you to get out there on monday morning. start early. and then be prepared. come with a resume and come with your basic experience and education already written down for the employer. when you do apply online, people think the process might stop there. you apply online, and then walk in and see the store manager and meet him and tell him you want a job. >> goldie, thank you so much for your time and get back to the kids. happy mother's day. >> happy mother's day. and then yeah, it's dogs.

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strategi strategist. and robert trainam, he is the host of "roll call tv." good morning to both of you. >> happy mother's day. >> karen wished me that last hour, so it's all good. the president's approval ratings, does he look like pocket book issues can pull it back down? >> absolutely. we saw late last week the president and the white house did not over play their hand, alex, when it came to the capturing and killing of bin laden. they went to ground zero and reflected on the moment, and then he focused and pivoted to pocket-book issues. if you look at history, george h.w. bush won the cold air and then 18 months later he lost in defeat.

and then george w. bush had a great approval rating, and then it was a tough ride to the next campaign. and then people are saying, we are glad we got bin laden, but getting him will not change our lives. >> more than half of the country disapproves of the handling of the economy. is there anything he can do in the short term to change that or is it a big waiting game? >> the president is really doing the things that he can be doing, and that is he lowered taxes, and trying to inspire job growth, and tried to appeal to large corporations. they have major profits, and doing well now. time for them to start hiring. and then the president is talking again about some of the things we have to do for the future. people don't want to hear that.

i agree with robert saying i need a job now and need to fill up my gas tank now, and in the short term the president focussed on and is focusing on the things he can do, and they are trying to focus on the longer term. this is one of the issues, no matter who is in the white house you are beholden to a lot of different forces and fluctuations. >> the critics have said he is soft on foreign policy and somewhat indecisive, and then the bin laden mission, one of the most getsy moves, and does that silence that? >> i am not sure it silences it. you will always have somebody saying the president is a multicultural individual that likes to bring in folks from all walks of life for decision making. and that's exactly what the president said he was going to do back in 2008. he said gone were the days of the long cowboy days of the bush

diplomacy. will it silence the critics? i don't think so alex. at the end of the day the hard right will criticize the president for everything he does on the world stage. if you look at fox news and the republican candidates, they in fact and rightfully so are giving the president credit when it comes to the capturing and -- >> what is that? what is that? >> come on, give it to me. >> you said that so much more beautifully than donald trump. he said the guy was not even born here. and then the republican candidates, one of the things i thought was interesting, as we are talking about the economy, they did give the president credit. i think we all appreciate that. a little begrudgingly from some. and for some they made sure that the bush administration got credit for what they did. and what i find interesting about that, is these are the

same republicans running away from bush and his economics in the last few years. you can't cherry pick. you have to take responsibility that it was president bush that tanked economy, and president obama pulling us out of it step by step. >> no fighting among yourselves. >> thank you. for the latest polls and analysis, you can head to firstreadmsnbc.com. now we go to florida, where after almost a three-year wait, the murder trial for casey anthony is set to go on trial tomorrow. and it's hard to believe it has taken this long, but here we are upon the trial? >> reporter: it's a long time when you consider it was three

years ago that that first discovery went out that a little 2-year-old girl, caylee anthony was missing. and part of the complexion of the story is that it took her mother, casey, 31 days to notify anybody that her daughter was missing. so initially her story was that there was a nanny who had her child. but the investigators never called this a kidnapping. in fact, from the get go they focused on the mother here. as we know it eventually led to an indictment on murder charges, and prosecutors say if convicted they will ask for the death penalty here. >> what about where they are going to select a jury, when is that going to be revealed? >> reporter: the trial is going to take about eight weeks. there has been an intense amount of publicity in orlando for almost three years. between the newspapers and the television stations, this dominates the news every day.

the judge says i don't think that i can get a jury who knows very little and is impartial to sit on a panel to decide her fate. so he has the option to change venues and move the trial out of orlando. he's decided to morph that a little bit, and go to another florida city, not yet revealed and he will select a jury and then move the jury -- it will be 12 members of the jury and eight alternates, move them back to orlando, and put them in a hotel room for the eight-week trial, which will be a six-day-a-week trial. finding somebody with the time and ability to leave their home and work and their kids and elderly parents that they care for, all of those sorts of things will make it difficult to find a jury. >> it will be complicated. i know you will be on it for us. thank you so much. the attorney for a 10-year-old boy accused of shooting to death his neo-nazi

father may seek the insanity defense. he shot his father at his home last week, and authorities have not determined a motive. good morning, rebecca. if this goes to insanity defense, how does that work? >> this child is 10 years old. in california, children under 14 are never charged. this is so rare that everything is new here. so i'm kind of shocked and looking at it as a defense attorney and saying, wow, you are bringing a 10-year-old up on murder charges and having him face an adult penalty which would be 25 years to life. that's very serious. i think the attorney is looking at some different options based on the child's psychological state. he has said that he will seek the insanity defense if the psychologist comes back with affirming factors. >> i am wondering how much this

has to do with the fact that this boy's father was a well-known white supremists, and will that play into the insanity defense? >> that's a really good point. it's hard, because the prosecutors are not releasing that much information. but there are some reports that this child has since 2003 been subject to some abuse, and the police have been called to the home, and there has been domestic disturbances, and the child has been violent and had violent outbreaks in school, due to what according to his teachers and counselors, from the abuse from his father. he said i didn't know what i was doing when i did it, because of the abuse. we don't know a lot of the facts because he's a juvenile. >> very quickly, do you think really that that 10-year-old

could get -- what did you say? 25 to life? >> if he is facing an adult sentence, murder with intent in california, on an adult is 25 to life. so i'm very confused here as to how the judge will even execute a trial, let alone a sentence for this child. >> thank you for breaking that down for us. you knew it was going to happen. a video game based on the raid on osama bin laden's compound. and then how the tablet is taking command. [ female announcer ] keurig brews more than just hot coffee.

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the release of apple's ipad was a game changer in the world of personal computing, and now the sales of tell computers will eclipse those of laptops in over a year. and bringing in our teches expert, a senior eder at

c-net.com. >> good morning, alex. >> we are talking about the tablets being the thing to replace pcs, and that would include steve jobs who says it's the post pc eche -- pc era. >> the hype may be a little bit overblown. i love tablets, but that does not mean they will replace computers in your house or office. >> it's something created, but not sustainable. >> the ipad is a good device, and know other tablets have broke through the mainstream. >> and what about other markets affected by the shift? there seems to be business, industry, things like that. are you seeing that kind of a shift as we talk about this being a personal computer? >> we are seeing people really concentrate on tablet content,

publishing and newspapers, and coming up with netflix on a tablet is great, and businesses are starting to adopt, like they adopted iphones when they came out, and it's a longer process, and you have to get your ip department to work with it and everything. >> there are keyboards, for example, or lack there of, and some people like the more sensitive keyboards. a limited screen size. do you think they will have to evolve further, and can they, given the fact that they are supposed to be a portable -- >> yeah, and a tablet is not all things to everybody kind of device. and people that try to make it that are barking up the wrong tree. it's like you pop the screen off and the screen becomes its own tablet, and a hybrid like that maybe the way to get the best of both words. >> what about touch screen? is everything going to be touch screen soon?

>> i feel like we have been secreting training people to be touch proficient. the phones went touch, and now the computers, and now maybe the tv may have a touch screen. >> how about the multitasking aspect of it? are tablets better at doing a bunch of things at one time? >> i just pick it up and flip it open and look up the weather or something or a reference to something i saw on tv and put it down. in that way, when you are doing other things at the same time, instead of being focused there on the tablet, that's what they are good for too. >> and based on the raid on the compound, the game. also, a former navy s.e.a.l. talks about the preparation for the historic mission. that's right here on "msnbc sunday."

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it has been less than a week since the u.s. special forces raid on osama bin laden, but a video game already out features the mission. cuma games released it over the internet. you collect infor marks destroy the downed chopper and escape. players also have the option to defend the terrorist leader. michelle obama addressed it for the first time. during her commencement speech she talked about the special team of elite soldiers who conducted that raid saying they demonstrated the very essence of the word "service." >> a small group of brave moan dropped by helicopter, half a world away in the dead of night into unknown danger inside the lair of the most wanted man in the world. they did not hesitate. risking everything for us, for

our freedom and security. >> clint bruce is a former navy s.e.a.l. who now runs a personal security company called trident response group. clint, good morning. good to see you. >> good morning. >> i know you said before s.e.a.l.s train so they can think under pressure, but when you have a situation like what happened last weekend, what goes through a s.e.a.l.'s mind on a mission? do you have time to think or do you train so well that it's instinct? >> what happens is you're moving instinctively and you're moving in accordance with how you train and what you're abe to do is wrachure mind around uniqueness of the scenario right then. so you're actively thinking, but a lot of what people would call it instinct, the fluid move management that you see, it's a little bit like the movement at the bottom of your screen. the active mind is able to look around and adjust to what the enemy's giving you and throwing at you. >> there were children in that

compound. they were scooped up. they were taken away to safety. there was one woman, bin laden's wife who was shot in the leg as she was trying to defend them and i guess keep them from their mission. that's what we can suppose on this. you've got to think about the harrowing nature of what they were going through. does that surprise you? >> no, it doesn't surprise me at all. these are some of the most highly trainnded and capable operators in the world. what the world needs to know about them is they're great men, incredibly passionate and incredible guys to take a half second and do everything in accordance with the rules and high standards morally that we fight with, it doesn't surprise me at all. >> you know, clint, i heard that the eego is completely

subservient to the mission. talk about it. >> you think eego might be part of. this how is it that you're trained to keep that aside? >> well, i think your eego and i think the competitor in you -- the person who wants to be the best in you, that's what lead use in the lifestyle. i think what you do is operate so far out there that you understand that it doesn't matter how talented you are, you're not good enough to do anything without the guy next to you. let me be clear that all those guys, they're so much better than i ever was. but learned how to submit yourself to the mission and to the needs of the guy next to you, that's part of the training. that's why only 20% make it through. >> well, i was going to say. only 20% make it through. don't knock yourself. you had do what? incredible long runs fully clothed under arduous trains and training for years before you were allowed out on a navy s.e.a.l. mission, right?

>> yeah. the pipeline is looking at two to two and half years before you ever check in with on operational unit. that's the beauty of our system. the beauty of the system in b.u.d. is ittet will exploit you and push you to your limit. that's what it's trying to find out. we're not trying to find the toughest person in the room. we have to find the most resilient and capable thinkers in the room. you can't sacrifice intellect and you can't take an athlete that's not smart and you can't take -- you always have to find that athletic thinker. and that's a beauty of the training program is it will break you and we're infinitely interested in how you respond. >> last question. there was a dog on that training mission, and i saw a still photo of a navy s.e.a.l. jumping out of an airplane at about 30,000 feet with a dog in a harness. i was shocked. >> yeah. >> tell me what the dog would have done in this one. >> the dog is typically used to

kind of scent and hem people understand what's on target. the dogs -- we can't fully describe why the dogs are able to do what they can do. they're as heroic and capable as guys. in some ways i think the dogs are the best of us. they're able to detect things we would never be able to detect and they're able to give us a peace of mind and another tool on the target. so that's what those dogs do. kijt begin to tell you how many lives they've saved. >> we're grateful for all the efforts on behalf of the navy s.e.a.l.s dogs and otherwise. and cliblt bruce. thank you so much. >> really quick. i'd like to say happy mother's day to my mom and my bride. >> absolutely. thank you so much. i'm so glad you did that. i'm going to say that to my mom later. very good. we're approaching the top of the hour. when we come back, the bin laden videos. what do they prove to the world. has pro president obama declare add victory genlts his

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