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i'm contessa brewer. that's all for this edition of "caught on camera." it's not like some scary movie. this really happened. >> i remember falling on my knees. >> you just think i want to live. i have to do something. >> it was a miracle they lived through it. just two frightened kids. the night terror knocked on their door. >> he pulled out a .357 and he said move over here. >> a loving pastor's family, instant targets.
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>> i heard the first shot go off. i said "i love you mom, i love you dad." >> they were the only ones who survived. and no one knew then how long justice would take. >> i felt the bullet hit me. >> i screamed, then he shot me again. >> or what it would cost. were you frightened, terrified they would come back and kill you? >> absolutely. >> a chilling manhunt. a young survivor driven to become a state senator. >> he was very, very passionate. >> would they ever come out of the dark? >> i always get a little emotional. i can't believe it's been this long. >> 30 years later, an answer. >> forgiveness and mercy. >> this is what my dad and my mom taught me. >> tonight, their powerful journey, to hell and back. "the haunting." thanks for joining us. i'm ann curry.
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it's the story of a teenaged boy and his little sister whose lives were changed forever one night by a stranger at the door. though they suffered a terrible crime and unfathomable loss, they show us it is possible to heal, even to forgive. here's keith morrison. ♪ >> reporter: he's in his 40s now, married again, starting fresh here on the beach at malibu. time finally to put it to rest. use hollywood to release those demons of his. get the nightmares in the rear view mirror. >> i look back and just building this coat of armor. and that was killing me and it was killing my marriages, my friendships. it was protecting me, but it was keeping me away from people that i love.
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>> reporter: after all, what else but a movie could make sense of it, what those people did to him, and then what came of it you couldn't make up. and the movie, it turned out to be, a decades-long saga of crime and punishment, retribution and forgiveness. perhaps it was too unbelievable not to be true. though back when it happened, back east along the old route 66 where it snakes through oklahoma where his sister lives with demons of her own, a warning. >> it was really true. it's not like, you know, some scary movie that you watch on tv or, you know, a "csi" or whatever show it is you're watching. this really happened. >> reporter: yes, it all did. the unspeakable crimes. the strange, painful path toward punishment. then could there ever be forgiveness? god knows that's what the father demanded. >> god knows all about us. there's not a secret crevice of our heart that he's not fully aware of.
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>> but could the son obey? >> god never expects of us that which we cannot do. god never demands of us what he does not empower. >> reporter: imagine now that it's 1979. a little place called okarchee, oklahoma. commutable drive into oklahoma city as people were discovering back then, before it happened. >> okarchee is a smaller community and a pretty quiet peaceful little town. >> reporter: and to be frank, the douglases didn't quite live in akarchee proper. they preferred a place out miles beyond the street lights. a little detail to keep in mind later. but mention the douglas name back in '79, and this would be the location people would be apt to think. the putnam city baptist church of oklahoma city where the reverend richard douglass and family had established a remarkable reputation.
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>> richard douglass was one of the most influential baptist pastors in oklahoma. and at the time was pastor of a 3,000 member church. >> reporter: the sort of family everybody wanted to associate with. the pastor's daughter, leslie. >> i mean, we became the people who we are because my parents were so strong. we lived a life that he would want us to live and learn the lessons he wanted us to know. >> reporter: and the fact that the reverend mr. douglass was a man of some heft in the baptist church seemed somehow secondary to his nature. kindly, approachable, principled. >> if he wasn't at the church, he was visiting people. and helping them work out their problems all the time. >> reporter: pastor douglass preached his first sermon at 16. once he'd grown into a husband and father took his family all the way down to the jungles of brazil where he, and they, spent their happiest years in a missionary outpost.
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♪ >> reporter: it was for leslie and her big brother brooks, unlike anything they would know again. magic time. >> we grew up in this city which is right on the mouth of the amazon. right where the atlantic meets the amazon river. finally it occurred to me why i love being near the water so much. because that's where i grew up and where i traveled with my dad. >> reporter: and so they were close, as close as a family on its own in such a place as this could possibly be. and accomplished. marilyn douglass could have sung professionally had she wanted to. could have done all kinds of things. >> she was a straight-a student and, you know, i just saw her as being so smart and successful in what it was that she wanted to do. >> reporter: and what she wanted to do more than anything else was raise brooks and leslie.
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you can see their faces still? >> oh, yes. and i can hear my mom singing. ♪ i see see >> reporter: she did every week at church. and at home where she sewed the outfits leslie wore to compete in miss teen oklahoma. >> i was the one that spent time with my mom, whether it be singing or her making me a new dress for a pageant. >> reporter: so autumn '79. 16-year-old brooks was an advanced football playing senior in high school making money breeding doberman pinscher dogs. leslie, a precociously pretty 12-year-old, was in middle school. dad was busy and all over oklahoma. a chaplain at the statehouse, visitor of prisoners at mcalester penitentiary. even preaching a bit on early morning television. >> simply saying that death is not meaningless. that it's a part of the overall experience of life. >> reporter: and packing them in at putnam baptist. >> i mean, i've matched god's
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plan with my living, but he knows just exactly how long i'm going to live. i don't. praise the lord for that. >> reporter: for the pastor and his wife, charity began at home. >> their door was always open. they really, truly cared about people and where they were and how they could help them and how they could serve people. >> reporter: it was that generosity and openness that would come to haunt them, of course. it was october 15th, a monday. everybody home. >> my mom was in the kitchen fixing dinner and leslie was in the kitchen with her. >> reporter: it was brooks who answered the knock at the door. people called in all the time at the pastor's house. this one he didn't recognize. a bearded stranger who wanted a favor. and no one felt the evil then. as it entered the house. >> the first thing i remember raising my hands and thinking always happens to the other guy. never happens to you.
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and here we are. >> reporter: suddenly, just before dinner, terror. >> he pulled out a .357 and will it in my face. and he said, move over here. >> who was this at the door? when "the haunting" continues. ♪ [ female announcer ] now just pop, click, switch your lids whenever you like! choose from over 20+ colors and designs. the new dell inspiron r series laptops with switchable lids, powered by the 2nd generation intel® core™ processor family: not just smart, visibly smart. call or click to get this fully loaded and totally protected inspiron 15r today! ♪ [ intel bong ]
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>> reporter: a little house in the country, just outside okarchee, oklahoma. october 15th, 1979. pastor richard douglass and his family were getting ready for a quiet school night dinner. around dusk, a knock at the door. 16-year-old brooks douglass put down his homework, answered it. a bearded stranger stood before him. >> he asked if he could use the phone, trying to get hold of somebody that lived near us. so let him in. i mean, he went over and picked up the phone.
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he said, ah, the phone number's in my other pants. he went outside. >> reporter: and when he returned a moment later, he bent down, reached behind his back and the awful business began. >> he had pulled out a .357. had it in my face, and he said, you know what it's all about. move over here. >> reporter: a second man armed with a double barreled shotgun stormed through the door. it was a robbery, the men said. >> i took my wallet out and had 43 bucks in it and handed it to him. that's all you got? that's all you got? yeah. then he went through my mom's purse. then he asked my mom if we had any rope. >> reporter: they pointed their guns, herded the family together, hogtied them. >> so he told us all to lie down on the living room floor. face-down. and they tied me up with the hands and feet behind our back. >> reporter: one stood guard with the shotgun.
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the other ransacked the house, pulled the phones from the wall. then the man with the pistol returned to the living room. and he looked at pretty 12-year-old leslie and now the character of the attack changed. >> and he got leslie and he said, show me where all the other phones are and where your hiding places for money are. she said, we don't have any hiding places for money. he said, well, we're going to find some. and so he put his gun to the back of her head and walked her around the house. then i heard him walk back into leslie's room and i heard her start crying and saying no. no, no. >> reporter: you all knew what was going on? >> yes. my mom, of course, was laying next to me. and she just was sobbing. and i said, mom, leslie's going to be okay. we're going to be okay. we're all going to be okay. >> reporter: brooks and his parents lay on the living room floor hogtied. and they listened, hopeless, as
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each man took his turn, as each one raped leslie. >> they brought leslie in, tied her up. hands and feet behind her back like the rest of us were. >> i remember that night just thinking, you know, you've got to remember this, you've got to remember this, you've got to remember this. >> reporter: the two gunmen helped themselves to the meal marilyn had cooking on the stove. >> they sat down at our table and ate our dinner. >> reporter: then the terrifying round of bargains began. >> they went back and forth about what they were going to do. at one point he said if you'll give us four hours before you go to the police, then we won't shoot you. of course, we'll give you four hours. >> reporter: then, two hours into their ordeal, the family heard the leader, the one with the pistol, issue an order. >> go outside, start the car, turn it around and listen for the sound. >> reporter: was it pretty clear to you listen for the sound meant -- >> that's what i took it to mean was that he was going to shoot
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us. >> reporter: and at that point it came home to you that it really was going to happen? >> i don't think i believed that we were actually going to get shot. i mean, what had we done, you know? >> reporter: and all they could do then was wait and pray. >> i remember him walking right up over my head and saying, well, i don't want to shoot you all but -- then i heard the first shot go off and felt it hit me. then i felt another shot went off and my mom screamed. then there was two other shots and then two more. and then i heard him run to the door and go out. >> reporter: shot twice in the back, brooks shimmied on his stomach toward his parents. >> i went over to my mom. and i was untying her with my teeth. i was able to get hold of them and i said, i love you, mom, i love you, dad. >> reporter: they heard that? >> my dad was like, i love you, too, get me untied. he said quit worrying about things, get your mother untied. dad, i'm trying.
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mom, your ropes are loose. untie me, untie me. she looked up at me one last time and her head tipped down and she just faded. i knew she died. then i went over to my dad and i looked him in the face and i said, dad, mom's dead. and he never really said anything else. i told him again i loved him. and he said, i love you. and i said, it's okay, dad. leslie and i are going to be okay. >> reporter: it was the last thing pastor richard douglass ever heard. he died with his son at his side, a son's assurance which the father may or may not have understood to be wishful thinking because brooks and leslie were at death's door themselves. coming up -- >> you just think, i want to live. i have to do something. i just can't lay here. >> what could they do?
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>> if i was going to live, i needed to make a decision. i remember thinking as long as i can draw breath or even twitch a muscle, i need to keep trying. >> reporter: the house was eerily quiet. and brooks feared his sister, too, was gone. >> i had been shouting to her periodically and she was responding. then she stopped responding. >> reporter: yet, despite being shot twice herself, leslie had somehow escaped her bonds and made her way to the kitchen. >> i looked up and leslie came running in with a knife and cut me loose. >> reporter: you're the one who got things going afterwards? >> right, right. >> reporter: where did that come from? >> i don't know. i guess that internal drive that you just think, you know, i want to live. i want to be here. i have to do something. i can't just lay here. >> reporter: brooks and leslie were bleeding to death, both of them. and at least brooks knew it. >> we needed to get to a hospital or we were going to die. >> reporter: brooks carried leslie out to the family car. they were terrified, all but
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sure the killers must be out there somewhere, lying in wait for them. >> i remember also thinking they might be down at the end of the driveway, so i drove really fast. and they weren't there. then thinking they might be on the highway. >> reporter: they raced up route 81, brother and sister had a surreal, surprisingly composed conversation. >> it was very strange. because there's moments of silence. and then leslie asked me, are mom and dad dead? i said yeah. they are. and she goes, so, you know, what are we going to do? i guess we'll go live with our aunts and uncles? i said, i guess so. i said, we don't need to worry about it right now. we just need to -- we need to get better. >> reporter: brooks who was doing better than a hundred miles an hour in his dad's 1970 plymouth duster drove on to the lawn of the okarche home of a family friend, a doctor, blurted out what happened. >> they actually didn't believe us. we were saying we've been shot. mom and dad are at the house dead. help us.
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then i collapsed as soon as i got in the living room. >> reporter: the doctor and his son carried brooks and leslie to a nearby hospital. >> then the doctor and his son went to -- went out to the house to check on my mom and dad. >> reporter: the children fought for their lives. in the middle of the night, they were moved to an intensive care unit in oklahoma city. their wounds were appalling. one bullet had nicked brooks' heart. >> it came in the side of my back and collapsed this lung. >> reporter: and what about your sister's injuries? >> she was shot twice and one of them went through her forearm because we had our arms tied together on our back, then it went through her lower back and then the second bullet went through the middle of her -- just off the center of her back and came out her chest. >> reporter: the doctor called the sheriff's office. officers reached the douglass
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home around 11:00 p.m. lynn steadman was the sheriff of the county. >> the preacher reverend douglass and mrs. douglass were still at the residence on the living room floor. >> reporter: dead? >> mm-hmm. >> reporter: pretty shocking thing. >> yes, certainly was. >> reporter: like an execution. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: it didn't take long to identify their suspects. there had been another home invasion earlier that day in henessey, oklahoma, just up the road from the douglass', two men fled that crime in a distinctive banana yellow chevy malibu with primer spots. the victims who were robbed but not physically harmed gave deputies good descriptions. both of the men and their vehicle. they were able to trace that car to an oil field a few miles up the road from the douglass property. two roughnecks working the drilling rig had up and quit that very morning, taken off in a borrowed car. thought they were wanted for
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parole violations, apparently. they weren't. they thought they were. the two were named steven hatch and glen ake. and they were familiar already to the local police. >> one of them had a burglary conviction. >> reporter: these are petty criminals. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: as police pieced together their activity today, they learned that after the two borrowed the yellow chevy, they drove into town and cleaned out their bank accounts. >> each one got approximately $500 out of a savings account. >> reporter: they bought beer and whiskey and scored some speed and cocaine, then roared off in the borrowed car to rob the family in henessey. that crime netted more than a thousand dollars and a double-barreled shotgun. from there they headed south to okarche and the pastor's modest ranch house out beyond the streetlights. assistant district attorney bill james responded to the crime scene at the douglass home that night. he was starting to help build a case.
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>> within, 2:00, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning, we had the identity of the people because of the prior robbery. >> reporter: they took money out of their bank accounts, then they robbed another place. they had a couple thousand dollars, they had a car, they had guns. why go into yet another house? >> i think it was so easy. they had somewhat of a high from doing it the first time, so they wanted to do it again. >> reporter: the county sheriff, the state police, the oklahoma bureau of investigation, the fbi were all looking for ake and hatch, but the fugitives had at least a six-hour start. >> they were gone, yeah. >> reporter: meanwhile, back in an oklahoma city hospital, brooks and leslie douglass clung to life in an intensive care unit and lawmen had a bad feeling. >> i really was afraid because i saw the scene that night, these people are likely to commit one murder after another. because they were just so cold and without thought, without necessity.
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coming up -- were you terrified that they'd come back and try to kill you? >> absolutely. >> around the clock protection for brooks and leslie. were they still in danger? >> people don't know where these two guys are. they could be anywhere. >> when "the haunting" continues. [ male announcer ] this is charlie whose morning flight to london starts with arthritis pain... and a choice. take tylenol now, and maybe up to 8 in a day. or...choose aleve and 2 pills for a day free of pain. enjoy the flight.
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i'm milissa rehberger. here's what's happening. the state of violence in pakistan since the death of osama bin laden continues today with two deadly bombings, a suicide bomber killed 18 in a bakery. an earlier blast killed six at a bus stop. flood waters along the missouri river are rising from north dakota to missouri. helicopters are driving 1,000 pound sandbags on a levee leak. tens of thousands have been forced to evacuate their homes. now back to "the haunting." it was thursday, october 18, 1979.
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the choir sang "amazing grace." and 2,000 mourners crowded into putnam city baptist church for the funeral of the church's beloved pastor, richard douglass, and his wife marilyn. even the governor was there. it was three days after the home invasion, after the murders. the children couldn't be there. brooks and leslie remained in intensive care. brooks took a turn for the worse. >> the morning of the funeral, my temperature shot way up, and they thought at that point they were going to lose me. but they caught it early, and they treated it. and so it was pretty miraculous. >> reporter: as the mourners listened to eulogies and the douglass' favorite hymns, a man hunt was on for glen ake and steven hatch. leslie and brooks were kept together in the same hospital room under 24-hour police guard.
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were you terrified that they would come back. >> absolutely. obviously caused some angst. you know, among the police and the family. >> reporter: it wasn't just the still-healing douglass children who were frightened. the enormity of the crime transfixed oklahomans. kjrh tulsa anchor russ mccasty remembers. >> this terrible thing has happened. there's a man hunt that's going on. you know, there's a lot of tension. people don't know where these two guys are. they could be anywhere. there was word they had made it down to texas. there was word they had gone to colorado. they may be coming back. brooks and his sister can't even go to their parents' funeral because these guys may be coming back to get them. the stories were just abundant. >> reporter: reports of sightings came in. some of them disturbingly close. what were they up to? bill james was assistant district attorney. were you worried that they'd come back and try to get those other two kids once they learned that they were alive? >> correct. someone thought they saw them
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almost in the okarche area. we had a manhunt up there. >> reporter: but of course, brooks and leslie douglass were more than just victims, more than survivors even. they were crucial witnesses. >> i went to the hospital. >> reporter: how were they? >> they were pretty stable at that time. they would answer any question i asked them directly. >> reporter: what was interesting about them? >> how analytical about it they were, in discussing. and exact questions, and what was going to happen. that they were pretty intelligent kids. they were pretty well in control of their emotions. >> reporter: as you were lying in the hospital trying to recover, trying to understand what had happened to you, what was that like for you? >> it was really strange. part of it was i think nobody knew how to react. members of the church would come in and to console us and we would wind up consoling them and hugging them. hey, it's going to be okay. we're going to be okay. >> reporter: three weeks after the shooting brooks and leslie were spirited out of the hospital and taken to a secure
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location still under police guard. it was halloween. >> we were staying in a little house that was owned by the church. and in a residential neighborhood. and a bunch of trick-or-treaters came out, they were adults and showed up at the door wearing masks. leslie and i both came out of our skin. and the highway patrolman actually had his weapon drawn behind the door and was telling them, you don't want to be here. that was a scary moment. >> reporter: out of the hospital, orphaned now, the finality of the children's loss sank in. all the way. >> the hardest thing was the cemetery. i remember walking towards the gravesite. it was just dirt. and with a grave marker with both of their names on it. and that was the first moment
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that was the first moment that it was real to me. that they were gone. i just felt like everything that was in me at that moment just fell out, and i remember falling on my knees and just thinking how senseless. >> reporter: then, imagine this. having survived the deadly attack, having lost their parents, having soldiered through an arduous recovery, brooks and leslie's home and all the family's possessions were auctioned off to pay their medical bills. and so began repercussions neither they nor anyone else imagined. a haunting really that would go on for decades. first, the siblings who kept each other alive through crisis and recovery were separated. leslie moved in with relatives in another town and started at a new school. brooks just a term shy of high school graduation stayed in the
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neighborhood with church members so he could finish school. >> at the end of the day, i was still, you know, a 16-year-old kid that didn't want to be strapped down in a hospital and i didn't want to be stuck in a house with security. it was all necessary, but it was hard to take for a 16-year-old and a 13-year-old. >> reporter: and glen ake and steven hatch were still out there somewhere. coming up -- worst fears are confirmed. the suspects strike again and again. >> the car just got away, just disappeared. >> reporter: but police are about to hit the break they need. she felt lost... until the combination of three good probiotics in phillips' colon health defended against the bad gas, diarrhea and constipation. ...and? it helped balance her colon. oh, now that's the best part. i love your work.
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steven hatch and glen ake were on the run. the day after the murders, they the day after the murders, ake called family in oklahoma and learned that lawmen were on their trail for killing pastor and mrs. douglass and shooting leslie and brooks. sheriff lynn steadman led the investigation. what happened during the next period of days and weeks? >> well, they left and a lot of this is according to their statement, they left through oklahoma city and bought beer in oklahoma city. they asked directions to interstate 40 east and they ended up that next morning in
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fort smith, arkansas. >> reporter: still in the yellow malibu? >> yes, sir. still in the yellow malibu with primer spots on it. they ended up there about 2:00 in the morning, spent the rest of the morning up until about 10:00 or 10:30 at the sheraton in fort smith, arkansas, on rogers street. they spent the night, and they walked to the bus station. >> reporter: eventually police managed to track down their yellow getaway car, abandoned now. but by then, they were long gone, had hopped a bus to memphis. >> they spent three nights there drinking heavily. they lost about a thousand dollars while they were in the motel as a result of a cabbie bringing a couple of hookers to their room and the hookers rolled them for about a thousand dollars. >> reporter: and after memphis, they wandered around southern
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louisiana looking for oil field work before hitchhiking to new orleans. there, the two found jobs in a carnival. and ake took up with a young woman named virginia ginger keith. >> they hooked up with her and went on the road with her for a while. >> reporter: back on the road after they lost those carnival jobs. happened when they got drunk at work and fired a shotgun in the air. they were just about broke by then except for a credit card they'd stolen from mrs. douglass. by early november, three weeks after the douglass murders, ake, hatch and ginger caught a bus as far as their remaining funds would take them. that was lumberton, texas. >> ake and hatch and ginger keefe arrived there. they were on a continental trailway bus. >> billy payne was sheriff back then. >> they got the bus to stop right in front of the house, and they went and broke into the house. the two men did. and virginia stayed out in the woods.
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and they was going to wait till somebody come home. >> reporter: and when the homeowner returned, a friend along with him, ake and hatch were waiting with a sawed-off shotgun. sheriff payne later found some signs of a struggle but otherwise the crime scene was a carbon copy of the douglass murders. >> they had been tied with the ropes, their feet and hands were bound behind their backs. they had hoods over their heads and both of them had been shot execution style. >> reporter: payne didn't know then about the douglass case, didn't connect the two right away. but he did have something to go on. the homeowners' new datsun, 280-z was missing. >> we put out a bulletin for that vehicle. >> reporter: hatch, ake and ginger keefe squeezed into the stolen car and headed west. they had a little cash, a gasoline credit card stolen in the texas murders, and marilyn douglass' visa.
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the trio drove to california then doubled back east to wyoming, ake and hatch looking for oil field work. but their murderous road trip was about to end. in a bar in downtown bags, wyoming, ake got drunk, started slapping ginger around. she'd had enough. and at her first opportunity spilled her guts to the barkeep. the bar owner alerted the police. by then ake and hatch had escaped in colorado. jeff corville was a detective sergeant in moffat county, colorado, back then. >> our deputies found out that the car was associated with ake and hatch and that they were wanted on a number of different murders in oklahoma and texas. they tried to pursue the car, but what we had then was just kind of old pickup trucks for patrol vehicles and, of course, these guys got away real quick. >> reporter: ake and hatch floored the 280-z. lost the lawmen. aware of how dangerous the two were, the searchers scoured the county. >> our guys gave chase and the car just got away from them.
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disappeared about 25 miles north of town. >> reporter: they'd given the cops the slip. low on money and freezing in the colorado winter, ake and hatch were as desperate as cornered animals. they resorted to what they knew. they invaded a ranchhouse owned by mike pondella. outside craig, colorado. >> they got the car stuck in the driveway leading up to his house. they went out of the car, went to his house, basically forced their way in, armed, of course. and took pondella hostage. >> reporter: here's how ake and hatch convinced the rancher they meant business. >> mr. pondella had a little dog. he called it his little three-legged dog. the dog went to jump up on the bed and one of the guys shot and killed that dog. they told mr. pondella if he didn't do exactly as they said, he would be next. >> reporter: after ake's bloody warning, the rancher stalled for time. >> he got them to drink a lot of beer. and when they either went to
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sleep or passed out, he got away from them. so his quick thinking and the way that he handled himself in that situation absolutely saved his life. >> reporter: the rancher met with the sheriff. >> we showed him the pictures of ake and hatch. he instantly identified them as the two people that had taken him hostage the night before. >> reporter: the rancher warned the lawmen that ake and hatch had access to an arsenal. >> between the firearms and the ammunition that he had and the firearms and the ammunition that they brought, they were very, very well armed. i'm going to say close to 30 different firearms and thousands of rounds of ammunition. >> reporter: early the next morning nearly a dozen lawmen stormed the ranch house. >> right as we were driving up to the house, we see two men, ake and hatch, jump from a window in the house and run, and they run in two different directions. they were both armed. >> reporter: a deputy fired a warning shot, double aught buckshot.
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over ake's head. >> ake tripped over an irrigation ditch out in this meadow and fell down. it was all of our thought at the time that we had hit that guy, that maybe we would have killed him. but not a scratch. >> reporter: ake and hatch surrendered without firing a shot. they were taken to the county jail. when their belongings were inventoried, they each had less than a dollar and change, a gas credit card belonging to a texas victim and pastor and mrs. douglass' wedding rings. coming up -- arrested at last. was the long nightmare over for brooks and leslie douglass? or was it just beginning? chilling words from a killer. friend 1: i stopped you from getting corn rolls on spring break. friend 2: i brushed your teeth for you when you broke your hands.
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it was stunning news. thanksgiving eve 1979, six weeks after the okarche, oklahoma, murders of richard and marilyn douglass, the shooting of their children, the man hunt was over. >> the governor called a news conference. it was that big of a deal. they wanted to put people at rest that these two guys weren't out there terrorizing the state of oklahoma any more. it was a big deal. >> reporter: glen ake and steven
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hatch who were wanted in questioning in two additional murders in texas had been captured in colorado after another home invasion. word reached the prosecutor bill james at the courthouse. it was the call he was waiting for. >> i jumped over the railing, ran to the office, we prepared waiting for. >> i ran to the office, we prepared the extradition papers. i put a call in to the governor. he signed. we had them down in a few hours. >> reporter: why the hurry? why the rush? >> we wanted them. >> reporter: remember the fugitives had committed a double murder in texas, too, but the oklahomans were determined they wanted first crack at ake and hatch, had to get there before some lawman in texas beat them to it. the news of the capture was a huge relief, of course, to brooks and leslie douglass. and now the race to bring back ake and hatch. sheriff lynn steadman flew by
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charter to colorado. >> it was about 2:30 to 3:00 in the morning that we landed at will rogers airport here in oklahoma city with them. and then took them by car back to el reno. >> reporter: then the sort of thing that almost never happens. on the way back to oklahoma, hatch and ake told the lawman they wanted to make a statement. >> we had a semblance of thanksgiving that day, and then this that evening, thanksgiving evening at the sheriff's office in el reno. >> reporter: they locked up hatch in this old building here, the old el reno jail. ake they kept in a more security facility, a more modern place just down the block. thanksgiving night sheriff's deputies collected the two of them, took them down to the sheriff's office so they could deliver those confessions they seemed to eager to make. and so they did. apparently without any remorse or emotion, first hatch, and then ake, calmly described their activities on that murderous
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night. >> i unloaded the .357 magazine loaded with .38 wadcutters into these people. the dog was barking at me. i slowed down to a walk and drove off. and drove off. steve asked me what i had done and he told me, i should have never done that like that. >> they told us they didn't do that kind of stuff in their words unless they were drunk. and they had been drinking heavily the day that this happened. october 15th, '79. >> reporter: taking drugs as well? >> yes, sir. in one of their areas they
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mentioned some speed. ake even mentioned cocaine that they had taken. >> reporter: glen ake made it clear in his statement that he was the shooter. he was in charge. >> this shouldn't be on steve's part because steve can't kill nobody because he don't have no guts to do nothing. all this doing was my brains, not his. >> reporter: why did hatch go along with him? >> hatch was a -- and this is ake's words. hatch is a follower. ake said, i'm the strong one and made all the decisions. >> reporter: so it was like a big dog, little dog and hatch would follow along behind him. ake told the sheriff that he and he alone was the triggerman. not only in the douglass killings, but in texas as well. the other incident was the shooting of those two fellows in texas. did ake tell you about that or
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about why he pulled the trigger then? >> he said that he had to do it because steve hatch was just too weak to do it. >> reporter: he was afraid to pull the trigger? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: did either one of them express remorse in these statements? >> the only remorse that i got was ake said that i want the death penalty. >> on all this here i want the death penalty. and i want injection as soon as possible. after i'd like to have a little bit of time, i'd like to see my parents and my nephew, then i'm ready to get executed. >> reporter: he knew what he had done. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: for brooks and leslie douglass, the capture of the killers appeared to put an end to their ordeal. little did they know. did you have any idea how much you still had to go through even though they caught them? >> oh, heavens, no. no idea. >> reporter: you figured it was sort of done at that point. >> yeah. >> reporter: naive little you.
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>> oh, yeah. >> reporter: coming up, the trial begins, face to face with their parents' killers. >> i had to pretend like i was somebody else. >> reporter: reliving that painful, fateful night. when "the haunting" continues.
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>> reporter: by the early weeks of 1980, brooks and leslie douglass had healed sufficiently to return to school. healed physically, that is. but now shellshocked after the murder of their parents the previous october, they struggled. any semblance of teenager normalcy were forever lost to them. and they cope separately. leslie had moved to another town. brooks was still in the old neighborhood near his high school. they still had no idea that oklahoma winter that the legal trials of the men who killed their parents, which were about to begin, would become their own decades-long tribulation. despite their long and detailed confessions, glen ake, the triggerman and steven hatch, his accomplice, had pleaded not
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guilty to charges of murdering richard douglass and his wife marilyn and shooting the douglass children. steven hatch was tried first at the canadian county courthouse. >> hatch was a follower, but he's the one that picked out the house that night. he's the one that wanted to commit another crime. and he's the one that created the energy for the second crime. >> reporter: and the state of oklahoma looked to have an ironclad case against him. most important, of course, the harrowing stories of the eyewitnesses and survivors, leslie and brooks douglass. then those confessions. the state also had ballistic evidence linking them to the murders and the testimony of ginger keefe, the traveling companion while they were on the run. keefe, who was never charged with any crime, testified that ake and hatch told her about

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