larry king is on tomorrow. thank you, alex. >> with sugar ray leonard. >> i don't like this medicare debate. i feel like everyone is playing it a bit. >> i found out that believes the president and john boehner respect each other. that ain't nothing. willie, if it's way too early, what time is it? >> "morning joe." see you tomorrow with "the rundown" with chuck. leaving afghanistan sooner than later. with bin laden dead, there's a drumbeat growing to expedite the pullout. today the president has his monthly war meeting with his national security team. rick santorum makes it officials. he may have company. >> plus -- >> we're only inches away from

being a free economy. >> really? we'll see if his line and a few others can pass the truth-a-meter. it's monday, june 6. opting for a faster, and larger troop withdrawal. the most amazing thing this morning is the silent. >> that's right. while we haven't heard anything from the administration is we can tell you the president, vice president expected to sit down with members of the national security team in just about an hour. as you say, amid these reports that there are calls to hasten the troop withdrawal. some of the reasons might be the

cost. it's costing america an estimated $2 million per week, and also osama bin laden was just killed. there's long been a called to be afghan president karzai take the ran in that region. those are clearly some of the factors that would be discussed. you can bet there will be a wide range of ideas and opinions about this troop withdrawal. we just heard from sflism secretary gates, who said i would opt to keep the shooters and take the support out first. as you snowe, president obama is restructuring the security team. leon panetta will be taking over for bob gates when he retires, and david petraeus will be taken over for leon panetta. so they will be weighing in on this question, but one more factor might be the general fatigue with war. we just saw the house on friday issue a nonbiden rebuke, essentially of the president's

policy in libya. as you know, tragically five troops were just killed in iraq, so a lot of questions in just about an hour. >> you do have a sense that the republican parties having the same fatigue that the democrats had a couple years ago. developing news out of the central iraq, where the military says five american troops were killed earlier today. iraqi officials say they were killed when rockets struck their living quarters in eastern baghdad. the single largest loss of life for the u.s. forces in iraq in two years. syrian police are keeping demonstrators away from the border, trying to prevent a repeat of sunday's clashes. stephanie gosk has more. >> reporter: for a second time in less than a month, unarmed palestinians and supporters

challenged the israeli military. when they tried to cross. the military fired warning shots. when they continued they fired directly at the protesters. the syrian government says 22 were killed k the israeli say it was only 12. they say it was sponsored in part. now, as that new front opened up on the israel/syrian border, a familiar uprising in yemen has gone into a new phase. there were celebrations in the capital of yemen in sanaa over the weekend because of the sudden departure of the president, but it's not an end to the -- even in sala decides not to return, there is an active branch of al qaeda that is looking to take advantage of the chaos.

>> we'll have more on all of this uprising in a few machines. . all of them were taking aim. >> this presidency has been a failure. what does he have to say? i'm just getting started. it's now our turn. we're the ones just getting started. >> unfortunately we have a president whose policies have failed and he won't tell the people of the united states of america the truth about what it will take. >> if we don't make a change at the top, we're going over the ledge. >> the way we defeat the liberals and the stupid people is to outwork and outvote them. that's how we defeat them. >> we have a lot more on

decision 2012 later in the program. there was a lot that happened this weekend. medding overseas, where we may be on the verge -- michelle kaczynski is live outside the organic farm where contaminated sprouts may have been the cause of this outbreak, michelle? >> reporter: we learned in just yesterday. it's been like e. coli csi and urged, because it's believed the source could still be on the market. germany announced yesterday numerous new cases, and a third of those cases developed this syndrome in which the toxin is attacking their kidneys. we saw 21-year-olds on dialysis. why are so many of the victims

young, healthy, highly educated. if this place is the source, as some health officials feel strongly it is, it's an organic sprout farm that's served to nice strahan all over northern germany, at some of which some people ate. officials were able to trace the shipments. the thing is, chuck, now test results are coming back negative. that doesn't necessarily mean it's not the source. that's the problem. it's difficult to track down. in about 20% of outbreaks, scientists never find the source, chuck. >> e. coli, csi, i don't know if that would be the next hit show, but that's what they have to do. >> it's fascinating. >> michelle cosine can i in germany for us, thanks. fears of the economy becky

quick joins us with another preview. >> it looks like we'll be off to a weak start. remember, this is coming after five weeks in a row of declines for the stock market, and that hasn't happened since all the way back to july of 2004. that's a long time, and you have to remember, that was through the entire financial downturn. all those weeks in 2008, 2009, all the troubles that were coming down when the stock market fell from highs of 13,000 down to about 6,000 and change, we never saw five weeks in a row now, so that's the good news. the jobs report we got on friday was incredibly weak. it set off a huge debate from those who think it's just

temporary also some that we'll work our way through, and those who really think this is the beginning of what would be a double-dip recession, some are worried this will build on itself, which could drive us into less demand. that's the big question. we'll be trying to figure out the whole situation this week. it looks like stocks will open a little lower today. >> i hear you. >> we've talked to big investors who say he has more money in cash at this point, but he wants to wait and see where things will go. some people will think it will be a bumpy summer, and we'll continue to get these weird

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what you have done is degrade the taliban. that was one of our core objectives. at the same time in the partnering activities you have done, we've seen an enormous increase in the number and the quality of the nansf. so the question becomes what can you take out and what is the risk associated with that? >> that was defense secretary robert gates? afghanistan highlighting hard-fought gains again the taliban, but today they are discussing the level of troops there. former adviser during the bush administration, and he joins me now. dan? >> good to be with you, chuck. >> let's start with what's splashed on "new york times,"

and that is the debate about how many troops will get withdrawn appears to be open with the administration pushing for a faster withdrawal than perhaps the defense department wants. >> faster than the defense department wants, but wh's interesting is unlike the last couple years, it seems that point the view will get real purchase within both caucuses. including a couple republican presidential candidates. so there's definitely more of a bipartisan consensus for this position than in the past. still think at the end of the day, the it pentagon has more concerning for destabilization, but the cost factors i think are overstated. many analysts have spoken to this. at the end of the day, if you want to cut back on the expenditures in afghanistan, the kind of troop withdrawal would also have to be accompanied by

huge infrastructure withdrawal, pulling all our presence out of there. >> well, let's talk about, you brought up the fact that it's what the -- more than what the defense department wants, but we have new leadership at the defense department, new leadership at the cia, and one of the things that i was interpreting from the moves of leon panetta to the pentagon, petraeus, cia, is maybe there's nor buy-in now, including from a petraeus, of being more special ops focused, more of the old biden strategy how not to deal with just half, but being more nimble, amping up special forces, predators, pulling back on the big troop movements. >> look, the praying and argues that special option, drones,

operations from afar can accomplish a lot, but many in the petraeus camp argue that you can't get the operations done like what was conducted against bin laden with any kind of consistency and frequency without intel on the ground, and you don't get the intel on the ground unless you have real troop presence, in which case the civilian population feels comfortable taking the risks to give you the information. i think it's less a signal of the fact that he's an indicator he's now in the biden camp on this on the special option and forces camp. i think it's pretty good news he'll have a seat at the table on the civilian side, where the coin strategy is actually getting a voice at the table, in a way it hasn't as prominently in the last couple years. i was watching what congress

did last week, you brought it up in a sit way when it culls to some of these military issues, but what does congress want from president obama? isn't this a kay where, look, he's have been to support two allies in europe, france and england, who really wanted to do this hat a time -- and the u.s. has no choice due to nato to do that, because how many england and have been have been there when the u.s. wanted to do something. >> i don't think president obama looks for wars to start. i don't think it's consistent with his world view. the fact that he has amped up our presence in afghanistan, all this has happened under his watch means i think he seriously looked at the scenarios and realized there was no alternative. anyone who was looking for aen

alternative, i think was barack obama. -- cascading effects in the region. i think when you talk to republicans who are in the camp of let's get out and really frustrated with the president, and i strongly disagree with those republicans, they argue, look, he hasn't made the case. he said gadhafi must go, he hasn't made a compelling case for intervention, he's largely silent. >> so you vote on something just because you don't like the president didn't make the case? >> i think it's irresponsible. i think the republicans are heading down a dangerous path, because i think the number of areas in ha region that we'll have to be present in are going to increase, not decrease. we talked about yemen and what happened over the weekend. if they collapses,ic have a failed state in that country. just think of the places we may have to be present, i think it's

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spilled this weekend. the campaign team isn't looking at just the road ahead, they're paying close attention to the past challenges. domenico month narrow is a political reporter for us, and you had fun looking at this. >> we d. >> it's time for us to change america. >> reporter: president obama wasn't the first candidate to embrace change. as far back as jimmy carter, change has been a constant theme. >> jimmy carter, a leader for a change. >> i hope you join us in this crusade. >> every candidate has to say change. that's what american people expect. >> reporter: what does an incumbent president run on? looking at convention speeches, presidents up for reelection

emphasis experience. >> i'm wiser tonight than four years ago. >> they acknowledge shortcomings. >> we've made mistakes and learned from them. >> it was a mistake to go along with the democratic tax increase. >> they tout achievements. >> in 1980, we asked the people of america, are you better off than you were four years ago? we have every reason now four years later to ask that same question again, for we have made a change. >> reporter: they look to the future. >> hope is back, and america, we are on the right track to the 21st century. >> they sell themselves as the steady hands in trying times. >> i believe this nation wants steady, consistent principled leadership, and that's why, with your help, we will win this election. >> reporter: president obama is honing his message. >> we're creating jobs again over the last four months we've

seen the largest drop in unemployment since 1984. >> reporter: it's no accident that the president refers to 1984, reagan's reelection that yeast, one he wants to emulate. obama has to make the case that his policies have helped turn the economic corner, otherwise could suffer the same fate as ge george w. bush and jimmy carter, who failed to convince voters they deserve to stay in office. just once in the past 100 years has a president who took over from the party -- the op set party from four years earlier has lost reelection. >> that was jimmy carter. what i find fascinating, you noted how just simply the body language of the two losers that we talked about, bush 41 and carter, they apologetic the entire convention speech. they gave off the air of, yeah, we know you hate us. >> it's almost like they knew what was coming.

jimmy carter, he said "peace" 25 times, almost like a post -- almost like he was looking at his election as an autopsy already. >> and bush's body language was not good, either. domenico, great piece. next, bill adair bringing the truth-o-meter to our set. we're putting romney, palin and -- mother nature's snaps fury. while in the midwest, the rising missouri river is threatening thousands of homes. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. ♪

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bottom of the hour now. moments ago dominique strauss-kahn formally pled not guilty in manhattan criminal court. the embattled former imf chief is facing charges. sad news in joplin, missouri. three more victims passed away from injuries sustained in last month's devastating tornadoes. the news brings the storm's total death count to 141. wildfires continue to blaze in eastern arizona, forcing thousands of residence to evacuate. more than 2,000 firefighters are battling the fire, which spans more than 280 square miles. the fire is the third largest in state history. meanwhile, rising waters on the missouri river are causing fears of potentially historic floods. seven states are under a flood emergency from the dakotas down to missouri.

the river may not crest until july, so the threat could last well into the summer. rod blagojevich spent one intense hour under cross-examination last week, but nothing compare to what he may face today. the first full day of grilling from the prosecution. nbc's nick bog art is at the courthouse. this is the type of stuff you just want to watch. >> reporter: it should be dramatic. he was knocked off stride when court broke for the weekend. we should find out today whether the ex-governor can rye group. his interrogation last week put a very big dent in the picture that rod blagojevich had painted for himself. you are a convicted liar was shar's first question, and he

did have to concede. he then boar in on the lies that blagojevich told for his search for someone to fill obama's seat. he denied that was really lying, said it was a misdirection play in politics like a quarterback faking a hand-off and throwing long. he also had to concede that while he was telling the public he was seeking a senate candidate who could advance his -- he was also talking over potential deals he could make in return for that senate seat, and he said essentially we're not preventing any dumb idea, and prosecutors will certainly throw a lot of those back in his face. >> could be a long, fascinating day on the stand. thanks very much. all right. as president obama prepares to fight for his second term, both supporters and critics are throwing around a lot of claims, so who better to bring in our

man, bill adair. by the way, imagine -- you miss rod blagojevich, don't you? >> we do. >> he was a nice target. >> we miss donald trump, too. >> he got it going quite a bit. that tells us something. three statements we're fact checking. mitt romney from his announcement speech. here's what he said. >> did you know that government, federal, state and local has grown to consume almost 40% of our economy? we're only inches away from ceasing to be a free economy. okay. that's what you fact check here. what say you? >> pants on fire for that one. >> wow. >> it's just ridiculously false. what was he trying to claim? >> he was trying to claim that the verb have done so much that it's no longer a free economy, but that's ridiculously false.

the biggest measurement for us came from all places the heritage foundation, which ranks cunning on economic freedom, and the u.s. ranks 9th out of 179 considered mostly free. so it's just -- >> what about in the long term? how much is government a part of our economy now as opposed to the past? >> no question the government's role has grown some. if you are look by different measurements, whether it's taxation, some other measurements, government has grown, but still this is overwhelmingly a free markets and we are not inches away. >> sarah palin, she claimed that president's drilling moratorium will reduce gulf oil output, 200,000 barrels a day the year after. she said this on fox news on may 31st. what do you give her?

>> barely true on the truth ometer she is right about the statistics. indeed those predictions are what the energy administration projects, but you have to go back and look at what they were before the moratorium. they were essentially the same, like 100,000 barrels reduction instead of 130,000, and so 130,000 to 150,000, so she's blaming in on the moratorium. the moratorium is a small part of the increase, so barely try. >> and finally you fact-checked somebody on this show last week, steny hoyer. >> 5$5.6 trillion surplus, to over 11-plus trillion debt when george bush left off.

>> half true. >> what's the difference? >> half true is partially accurate, but there are fact that are missing. barely true is like a major exaggeration where there's a small bit of truth, but lacking in important content. >> what would you rather have? >> a half truth. >> why was he half true? >> he was mixing and matches statistics? >> really? politicians do that? >> shocking. what he was doing was taking a number for bush's projected surpluses over ten years and compares them to the final debt that actually occurred. so mixing and matches to make it more dramatic. the numbers were accurate, but he didn't explain them. >> one thing we learned, when you take projected budget deficits and debt, it's never what presidents say they are. bill adair, you are never pants on fire. up next, the big panel

gathers around to weigh in on all things 2012. a big weekend. santorum announced this morning, perry is pondering, and palin is always posturing, and jon huntsman and his renal for skipping iowa. and then the compare news worthy of snl segment, really? newt gingrich's getaway, a two-week vacation. but first the white house soup of the day, new england fish chowder. i have to say i like fish chowder better than clam chowder. ♪ ♪ trouble, trouble trouble, trouble ♪ ♪ trouble been doggin' my soul ♪ since the day i was born ♪ worry ♪ oh, worry, worry worry, worry ♪

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foothold. it was the beginning of the end, d-day. rick santorum kicked off his presidential campaign this morning in somerset, where his grandfather worked as a coal miner after immigrating to the u.s. despite santorum's problems, his message can still fire up social conservatives. >> you have people over 55 years old at the prime of their life, out of work, wondering if they'll ever get a job. this is a moral crisis we face. >> as governor of utah, i supported and signed every pro-life bill that came to my desk. i do not bref the republican parties should focus on our economic life to the neglect of

our human life. chris cillizza, and a real challenge for jeff johnson. you know when they get together, i can't get a word in edgewise. jeff, welcome to you. he was all about the social conservative message. >> this is the new message, which is he is going to talk about the economy to the exclusion of almost everybody else. >> mitt romney is not going to

deviate. the argument will be he's authentic. he talked about, i'm not going to back away from this, even though it might be political exceed i didn't know for me to do so. >> he wants the issue. >> there's some others that want them, too. >> can somebody get nominated who really doesn't have much support in the conservative movement? >> i think it's very tough. as long as you're okay on the cultural issues, you have the freedom to talk about the fiscal stuff, primarily. the problem is when you have somebody who is wrong in the first place, it's tough to get beyond -- >> when you say a rudy-like

candidate, that brings us to jon huntsman. he gave this quote about his support for civil unions. >> i stand tall and proud for traditional marriage. you can't reopen the definition of marriage. that would not be a good thing. subordinate to traditional marriage, one man/one woman, i think we sometimes don't do an adequate job in talking about dwaelt and in addressing fairness, hospital visitations, reciprocal rights, insurance, i won't change my general direction on this. some will understand it and agree, others won't. you know what? i respect everybody's opinion on it. that's just happens to be where i come down. >> jeff, religious conservatives, can they accept an answer like that in your experience interviews these folks? >> i think yes. one i think he's being very

clear. i think there's some ultra-conservatives that don't even want to hear the word "civil union" but there are those that understand what it means to win the white house that aren't going to be opposed to someone clearly defining marriage as a man and woman and not deviating on that, as long as they're lockstep in some other issues. >> one thing that popped -- obviously we had the santorum announcement, but this rick perry revival, reliant stadium. >> get on your knees and pray. >> he's going to invite these religious leaders, this is a 2012 play, isn't it? >> the guy said last week, yes, i'm going to think about running, so my attitude, maybe we're too cynical is after you say something like that, everybody you do, of course it does, you're thinking about running for president. there's no way -- it may be a

nonpartisan event, but there's no way it won't be seen through that lens. >> do you think he'll have any luck getting religious leaders that aren't of the evangelical movement to show up? >> i think so. i think you're seeing the conservative religious movement or crew, if you will, really looking to have a larger play. and i think with all of this talk about the economy and those knowing that anybody that wants to beat the president will have to beat him on his record and the economy, they'll be jockeying for every single opportunity they can to make sure these social issues don't fall off the radar. >> what halves to newt gingrich's team if rick perry runs? >> two of perry's top guys are working for newt right now, which is one of the reasons i've been skeptical that perry will actually run. >> has he given them the okay to

go do this. >> to work for newt. my sense in talking to voters, chuck, is that the cultural issues haven't faded, but they're wrapped up in a larger question about the future of the country. it's not just about moral based, gay rights or abortion rights, it's about, will america broadband europe? it's not just cultural, but fiscal, the whole issue. >> that's what jon is trying to do. >> he has to hope. anyway, i'm trying to go to break. give me a second trivia time. give you the answer in the news today. who was the last unsuccessful vice presidential nominee to eventually become president. what was the answer, jonathan martin? come on. come on. >> bob dole? >> no, f.d.r. >> i can't read the question. >> i know. >> we were jumped.

>> fdr, he was right-handing on the ticket with james coff of if ohio. we've got a twitter winner here. up next, one if by land, two if by sea, on the opposite side of the break, we'll be discussing sarah palin defending her version of history where paul revere warned the british. the panel is sticking with us. you can follow me on the show. this is my band from the 80's, looker. hair and mascara, a lethal combo. i'm jon haber of alto music. my business is all about getting music into people's hands. and the plum card from american express open helps me do that. you name it, i can buy it. and the savings that we get from the early pay discount has given us money to reinvest back into our business and help quadruple our floor space. how can the plum card's trade terms get your business booming? booming is putting more music in more people's hands.

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a few minutes left and let's bring back the big panel. sarah palin had a little flub that everybody is having fun with regarding paul revere. i want to get more serious. i want to show you numbers from the gallup tracking poll. they have been testing voter intensity. positive intensity for various republican candidates among

republicans. michelle bachman and sarah palin all tested. sarah palin is tied for last for having a positive intensity figure. herman cain has more positive intensity number. there is a lot of republicans turned off by sarah palin. >> sure. i think the issue is they want a candidate that can win. she is great to watch. she entertaining and has great sound bytes and people love to see her, but when you are take being someone who can go up against president obama and be able to talk about the issues and have a level of not just integrity, but a depth of understanding of the issues, she is not the candidate. >> one of the overlooked part of the trips is she met with fox folks apparently and todd palin said she can't bring people on because she is an employee. fox is suspended candidates running for president. they have not suspended her.

don't we think they probably asked the question and she said i'm not running? >> i think the fact that she is still on fox as a paid contributor after last spring with others who were running or considering running is very telling. >> they either changed the rules for her which i don't think they would do -- >> or she is not actually running. we are not sure what it is yet. in the brave new world where candidates have been interviewed, on the airwaves. >> sometimes you get former candidates intrusion the current candidates and talk about looking into the looking glass. sarah palin did step on mitt romney's toes and apologized for it. if you read it in the transcript, it sounded sip seer. when you watched it, it did not seem sincere. >> we had this debate on and off

air. sarah palin is between a politician and provokture. she likes making mischief. >> we do have the quote. you have to see her facient expression. watch. >> i think there is a curiosity factor there still in play. i don't know. i apologize if i stepped on any of that pr that mitt romney needed or wanted. i sincerely apologize i didn't mean to step on anybody's toes >> a lot of people think you love stepping on his toes. >> not his. i will step on the toes of those who are making poor decisions for our nation. >> the toe she stepped on had to do with the mandate for health care. >> she called it pr. this is someone who is one of the savviest if not the most

savvy people in our media. she knows what she is doing with that sarcasm. >> we are being shameless about it. i have a new thing we are starting called shameless plugs i start with you. what's your shameless plug of the day for reading or writing or whatever? >> newark with the white house talking about entrepreneurship. not my plug, but i will be there. >> shameless plug? >> i will read one serious thing, one fun thing. colleagues of mine, they new blow up on 2012. also two great pieces on mitt romney and health care. the new yorker and boston globe. >> bill simmons up in the "new york times" magazine. check it out on his site. fascinating. sports and politics >> i have my own shameless plug. vaughn and i are starting an e-mail conversation and calling it the ned. it start this is week.

how is that for shameless plugging. that's it for this. i will be back at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow. the latest edition of the 2012 race and rick tanner to um will be joining us. at 1:00, don't miss andrea mitchell reports. >> the big story is the heat and a few thunderstorms through wisconsin and the great lakes during the day. the showers and storms in detroit, atlanta at 92. that's not too bad, but it's hot around dallas. 98 today. even minneapolis has a chance of hitting 90. stay cool. ♪ sun in the sky

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