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saturday. vanderbilt visits the tide. our own version of college game day, me, joe and mika. too bad it's not baseball. we'll have nick saban and the great joe namath. we'll see you then. next is "the daily rundown" with chuck. >> this morning the world remembers one of the great vision areas of the last 30 years. he transformed how we interact. he made technology cool. what didn't his inventions impact? from business to politics to pop culture. steve jobs after a seven year fight with cancer, dead at 56. also this morning, the president continues his sales pitch on his jobs bill. today's forum, a presidential news conference. breaking political news overnight. nevada republicans set their caucus date. they made it for january 14th.
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that's one week before the south carolina primary. that means new hampshire could move to the 7th. that would push iowa into december of this year. by the way, sarah palin made it official, she's not running. it's thursday, october 6th, 2011. this is the dl dld. i'm chuck todd. let me get to the first reads of the morning. let's start with steve jobs. it's a rare occasion when the political class is united in celebrating a leader, let alone a business leader. this morning, the political world is responding in an outpouring of emotions to the death of former apple ceo steve jobs. tributes poured in as news of his death spread. the president in a statement, "steve was among the greatest of american innovators, brave enough to think differently, bold enough to believe he could change the world and talented enough to do it." >> steve jobs transformed the way we work and play.
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even dmitry medved tweeted people like steve jobs change our world. the presidential candidates felt the need to weigh in. knit romney calls him an inspiration to american entrepreneurs. steve jobs famously said the goal isn't to live for forever. the goal is to create something that will. during a commencement speech, he talked about what motivated him to live every day with passion and energy. >> remembering that i'll be dead soon is the most important tool i've ever enup countered to help me make the big choices in life, because almost everything, all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure, these things fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. remembering that you are going to die is the best way i know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose.
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you are already naked. there is no reason not to follow your heart. >> in this period of time, of a tough economy, rough opinion of the political world and the business world, it is remarkable that it's a ceo that is somehow bringing the country together at a moment simply to mourn in a positive way. the president continues his pitch on the jobs bill. he'll hold a news conference in the white house east room at 11:00 this morning. he's taking his jobs message on the road. the president takes a three day bus tour through virginia and north carolina. i think they're swing states from october 17th through 19th. since unveiling the jobs plan, the president has given a dozen speeches on the plan in seven states. yesterday, white house chief of staff, bill daly pressed again for it to be passed. >> i think it's obvious that the expectations for the first half of the year, for a stronger
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second half and a stronger 12 are not going to be fulfilled. that's one of the reasons the president put together the american jobs act. >> my challenge to everyone else who runs around saying the jobs package is dead. what are you going to do for the economy? >> that's going to be interesting to watch the president's message. what's his body language going to be? is he going to be strident, upset, how much he's ready to embrace the democratic version of this, which calls for a 5.6% surtax on millionaires that would begin in 2013. christmas in des moines has been a running joke for decades but could it actually happen this time? nevada announced yesterday it will hold its caucuses on january 14. the question is does new hampshire take nevada as a serious threat to their system? secretary of state bill gardner can demand, because of his law,
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a week long window between new hampshire and whatever comes after it. if he views nevada as a li contest. if he does, it would push the new hampshire primary to at least january 7th. iowa wants at least a five day window. they wouldn't want a smaller window than that. they can't go january 2. that's a federal holiday and the day of all the new year's day bowls. that makes you look at the 28th or 29th. if gardner don't take the nevada contest seriously, he could hold the primary on january 10th, meaning we would have new years ago in iowa. at the end of the day, it would be the same schedule we were on four years ago. this is one of those tipping points of at what point does the political world through the two major parties throw up their hands and say that's it, it wouldn't affect it this year. but if you break the december
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barrier, is that the point where the rubberband actually snaps? before we leave, first read. here's sarah palin. her official explanation for doing what has been pretty obvious for the last 90 months, not running for president. here's what she said. >> really, you don't need a title to make a difference in this country. i would go back and forth about whether now is the time. if i say no to the opportunity that's in front of me, be it running for office now, politically speaking, will i die? will i be ineffective? i know it's the right decision. i know that i can join others and be effective in helping change what's going on in our country. >> back to the republican primary calendar. with nevada running up, does that mean the iowa caucuses could end up in december? by happenstance, matt strong, chairman of the iowa republican party and the man that can set
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this date. tell us now. clear it up before i ask you where iowa stands, this is what we know about new hampshire. bill gardner said this morning, he is not setting this date possibly not until before november 1st. what does that mean? will you set your date before iowa, before new hampshire? >> i think it's something we need to look at. initially when florida made their announcement on friday, i said we were going to wait to see what date new hampshire sets. i will act accordingly. based on reports this morning, we've got over 1700 precincts we have to organize. what i'm hearing from iowa republicans is that we may have to set a date very soon. those discussions will continue into the day and the rest of the week. iowa cannot necessarily wait for new hampshire to set a date. >> and are you adamant about making sure iowa's first, or are you adamant about not breaking the sort of december -- this unofficial line where everybody
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said we'll not ever go into december? >> one thing we've been clear on is we do plan to be first in the nation with our first in the nation caucuses. it's great for the presidential process. with iowa fifth, new hampshire tenth and nevada and south carolina. to some degree that mirrors what we had in 2008. >> that would be a comfortable place to be. you're not announcing the fifth today, but you would be comfortable with a five day window. >> it worked well in 2008, because we had record turnout in the republican and democrat caucuses. the iowa primary did not lack for attention in 2008 as well. it would serve the voters and candidates better if this is after the holidays. voters don't want knocks at their door during the christmas and new year's season. it's better for the process if it starts in january. >> we were told when florida went out of turn, we were told the four states were working together. it's clear to me the four states
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aren't working together? >> we were up until florida made that decision. >> i thought even after florida, the four of you guys were going to try to work together? >> we did. it's one of those situations where it seems to be every state for him or herself, with south carolina the 31st and nevada the 14th of january. i need to make sure that we do what's necessary to maintain iowa's role. i think for sanity to the process for our voters, i think it's better if we start this in january, i hope continuing to work with my colleagues in new hampshire, we can do that. >> are you ruling out december? >> not yet. >> you're leaning for january? >> i think that would serve the voters and candidates well. >> at what point do you feel like you want to set a date? you said you're not waiting on gardner anymore. what point do you feel you should set a date? >> sooner rather that than
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later. >> november one is too late? >> absolutely. we need to work on the precinct caucuses around the state. >> have you heard from the campaigns? are they lobbying you away from december? >> they have not with me, but they've been closely monitoring the calendar chaos. they're prepared for it. with governor palin's decision and governor christie's, decision, they've been activating. >> let me ask you a question not doing with the calendar year. that has to do with participation. it does have to do with the calendar year. you've been talking about what you expect to be a record turnout for iowa republican caucuses. overall has been 120. >> yes, in 2008. >> you think it's going to be more than that this time. if you held it in december, how much do you think that would cut down? >> it certainly has the potential to tamp down that
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enthusiasm, one thing we've seen we have had 30 straight months of republican registration gains. tremendous turnout in the extra poll at ames. we're waiting for republicans to tap into that and ride into the caucuses whenever it may be. >> next week, ten days? >> i would certainly hope we get to a point within the next week or so. >> it was just happenstance, you were in town. boom, the nevada republicans decided to drop this bomb on us. nice to see you. >> thanks. >> up next, remembering steve jobs, politicians, business rivals, fans, all morning the man whose revolutionary inventions changed the way we live. his life, his vision and his impact on the world. the protest movement spreads beyond wall street drawing people into the streets all around the country. first a look ahead at the president's schedule. as we told you 11:00 a.m. press
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capital police are investigating a suspicious device on capitol hill. the device ask a small metal cylinder on the south side of the street near the reflecting pool, a robot is being brought to the scene. we'll keep our eyes on this situation and bring you updates as soon as we have them. as we told you at the start of course, most of you already know, the world continues to
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mourn the loss of steve jobs. he was a technological luminary who changed the way we interact with each other, how we do business. an impromptu memorial has popped up in silicon valley. janet shamlian is at apple headquarters. this is an instance where a lot of people knew he was very sick and he wouldn't have stepped away unless the end was near. tell us about the last few months in the battle he had with pancreatic cancer. >> first of all, chuck, good morning. this is where the loss is very personal for everyone, because they worked alongside steve jobs. certainly, it came as a shock all over the world, especially it hit hard here yesterday. as you mentioned, he had been ill for a long time. he had been fighting this and stepped away finally at the end of august, naming tim cook as his successor.
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no one really knew how close he was. he has a wife and four children. he chose to spend his last days with them. they released a statement saying, you know, that they wanted privacy at this time and he did die peacefully with his family by his side. it was kind of ironic, because we just had this announcement a couple days ago. it was the new -- we were expecting the iphone five and we got the iphone 4 s and we had a new ceo there. in terms of product and personality, it was such a shift from what we had seen. it's the first time steve jobs was not there. for his death to come one day later, it was a stunning loss for this community and for the people here at apple, chuck, even though they knew this was coming. >> all right, janet, at apple's headquarters, seeing the makeshift memorial developing there. one of the people remembering steve jobs today is apple's co-founder in that
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garage, steve wozniak, the two guys started the company in 1976. this morning on "today," he talked about the man whose ideas shaped all of our lives. >> you see all the great products we have today. everybody recognizes steve for all of that. he has incredible credibility. when he speaks, it's like this is the way that is right in the world. in the earliest days at apple, it was the same thing. we would have different ideas of how to develop a product, how to market it, what the packaging would be like. steve would come up with ideas better than everybody else's. it's like he had a brighter mind or he pre-thought them more than the rest of us. he always took the leadership role and believing so strongly in his own ideas. >> the release of a new product is a business move. it's always a celebration for fans. thousands descend to get the next big thing. today people are there to say
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good-bye to steve jobs. dan is live at the apple store in mid town manhattan. this happened at apple stores around the country over the last 12 hours. >> yeah, that's right, chuck. i mean, this guy is not, we know, the average ceo. i have not seen something like this since michael jackson. i'm not going for hyperbole here. seeing people's reaction is we have occupied wall street. we have a lot of hatred towards corporate america and ceos in particular. steve jobs is not in that group. there's a letter behind me that says this, rest in peace, steve jobs. so ironic great minds die while wall street expletive are still alive. i think that dichotomy and the
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difference between steve jobs and everyone else, steve jobs gave them what they wanted. their iphones, their ipads, their ipods. how he is different from others, i think, is the very stark contrast in perception that we're looking at today. >> i'm glad you made the connection, darren, to what is going on with the protests and the anger that's been out there in corporate america frankly for quite sometime, but particularly since the collapse of lehman brothers and this idea that there hasn't been business leaders to look up to and the exception has always been steve jobs, which you just pointed out, which is this idea he keeps making products that we all want. it doesn't seem to cater to one group or another. >> yeah. i think it was partly that. i think it was also, i mean when you look at steve jobs, you know, up on that stage in the levi jeans and the new balance shoes and the mock turtleneck. he also was the ceo that you
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could argue was the every mankind of thing. the way he looked. you know, i think there's a lot of people who are really relating to him, you saw it even on twitter last night. real, real sentiment, and maybe what's going on with wall street and the perception of the public that's been going on for years as you pointed out. to some extent might be unfair, might be slanted, you know, but you understand why they love steve jobs so much against that. >> all right, darren at the apple store in manhattan store, where they have become memorials for steve jobs. we're going to hear more from apple's co-founder, steve wozniak when he talks to chris jansing. that comes at 10:00 on msnbc. we'll look at the apple stock, and former new jersey governor,
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kristy todd whitman joins me. what does she think of the 2012 field? now that her fellow new jersey republican chris christie is not in. today's trivia question. president pierce approved plans for the first congressional telegraph office in 1853. when did the capitol hill telegraph office shut down? tweet me the answer @chucktodd and @"the daily rundown." the answer and more coming up on dl dl "the daily rundown." we'll be right back. i don't want healthy skin for a day.
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like 1984. >> really helped this conversation about our country get started. >> i hope to repeat this conversation november 2008. >> well, that was the famous apple aad from 1984. the spoof made by obama supporters. it's another indication that steve jobs and apple computers had on american culture. the opening bell will ring on wall street investors will be keeping a close eye on apple stock after the death of its founder steve jobs. we're joined by mandy drury. i want you to get the jobs numbers as well. start with what we're watching today with apple. >> absolutely.
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apple is down currently in premarket trading to the tune of about 1% after that sad news of steve jobs. this is not unexpected. we knew this was going to happen. he was a visionary ceo. and he was responsible for apple's success. back in 2000, apple had a value of $5 billion. now it has $350 billion. his products change the way we communicate, entertain ourselves. the share price from here under the new ceo depends on whether or not that vision can continue. >> let's talk about what we know about some jobs numbers that came out. obviously the big jobs report is tomorrow. we know what kind of impact that can have on the markets. yesterday the adp numbers looked pretty good but we got weekly numbers today. >> the number of new applications for unemployment benefits did rise slightly last month. the job market does continue to be weak. but the number was slightly less
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than predicted. that is always what the street latches on to. we're getting numbs that are trickling out from retailers like target which has gained in its share price after its september sales beat wall street expectations. there are other retailers that did pretty brisk back to school business. chains like kohl's and nordstrom came out with decent numbers. it seems to be one step forward, one step back. we'll take the step forward anytime we can. >> we will take it as one to one. sometimes it's one step forward, three steps back. thanks very much, "the daily rundown" will be back in 30 seconds.
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just before the bottom of the hour, few stories making headlines today. the senate plans to take up president obama's jobs bill next week. majority leader harry reid predicted overwhelming support from democrats after adding a 5.6% tax surcharge on millionaires. the new revenue will cover almost the entire $447 billion price tag, but he is waiting for the scoring to come back to him. the president is going to have a news conference where we expect to hear what he thinks of the surtax idea. marco rubio will not be the v vice presidential nominee. he didn't run for senate as a launching pad for another job. the way to become the vice
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presidential nominee is to say you don't want to be the vice presidential nominee. we'll see if he gets more shermanesque down the road. gabby giffords will be in houston where she is recovering from the assassination attempt on her in january. now to the big protest on wall street. the anti-corporate protests are expected to draw hundreds if not thousands in the streets of new york, washington, philadelphia and other cities. secretary tim was asked about them and he said he understands how they feel. >> i feel sympathy among the general sense of americans as to whether we've lost the sense of possibility. we will wonder whether we have the ability to do things that can help the average sense of opportunity in the country.
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i definitely sympathize with that. >> nbc's marva is in new york. >> we've heard from ben bernanke who said that he also on some level understands the frustrations of those here and what's happening here. in terms of how this is spreading. you can see behind me there are police barricades, uniformed officers here. this is the first time we've seen this level of police presence when there wasn't a big event planned. it's very early in the morning. a lot of protesters are in their sleeping bags sleeping. we're seeing dozens of police cars. it's unclear why they've decided to establish more of a visual presence here today. that's something that is new that i wanted to point out to you. yesterday's event was the biggest for the growing movement. thousands came out for a rally and march. in the grand scheme of things,
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it was very orderly. there were about two dozen arrests. you can compare that to last weekend's event at the brooklyn bridge where 700 people were taken into custody in a single day. yesterday was relatively orderly and it was a big event for them. that seems to have given the movement a lot more visibility. you mentioned there are a number of protests planned around the country. here they're still figuring out what they're going to do for today. one of the protesters said this is like water, you have to let it flow. they have a zen approach. they're still figuring out the schedule for the day. before yesterday, they had been conducting twice daily marches. you can assume they would be going back to that schedule, given there's no other big event planned today. as you mentioned there are lots of support events happening all over the country. >> it had the support of organized labor and other organizations. are we not seeing that today?
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>> well, in terms of visibility, no. right now, it's still early for this group. they tend to wake up around 9:30, 10:00. the labor unions came out yesterday in their shirts for that event. in terms of the union support for everything that's happening here, that's not wavered at all. they pledge their support. in terms of what's happening here today, the day is just getting started and they're trying to figure out what events they're going to plan for today and the next couple of days going forward. >> thanks very much. with chris christie on the sidelines, it would seem the presidential field is finally set. what's next for all those within the party who are waiting for a knight in shining armor? could a third party candidate still shake things up. former new jersey governor, christine todd whitman joins me now. >> good to see you, chuck. >> let me start with this
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question to you. are you satisfied with the group of candidates that are running? >> i would like some within the group. the trouble with, the one i like particularly, jon huntsman doesn't stand a chance on the republican side. >> as a republican moderate, if you feel as if the conversation you want to see happen inside the party can't happen, where do you turn? >> one of the things i'm looking at and following closely is americans elect. you know about it. eat the new process that will allow for an internet convention where the people, republicans, democrats, independents can select the presidential ticket and that ticket has to be bipartisan at the end of the day. it means that the candidates that will be presented will be an alternative. it's not a third party. it's a different way of doing the selection process. it's not the party apparatus on both sides who control the whole thing. >> are you saying right now you're not committed to
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supporting the republican nominee, even if it's mitt romney. >> i'll support a republican nominee, it depends. if it goes to americans elect, they're going to be on the ballot in every state, i'll be supporting them. i'm staying a republican. i'm not changing from the party. i would like to see a more open process. what bothers me is the various plenls th pledges that everybody signs. even mitt romney signed pledges to no taxes, no revenue enhancements no matter what, to support a constitutional effort to ban gay marriage. that's not what we want to use the constitution for. there are other issues i want my president to focus on. you can strip those out and say they signed the pledges, but that doesn't mean they're going to do anything about them. then you say what are you going to do something about? what are you talking about is your real agenda. that needs to play out before i get comfortable.
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>> i'm curious, your take on when you watch herman cain surging, as the field got more fluid, both with sort of chris christie freezing the race but rick perry, the experience of conservatives concerned he can't go toe to toe with mitt romney. it's been herman cain that has sort of risen. why do you think he's resonated at least for this moment in time? >> again, because i think the majority of the republican primary voters at this point aren't happy with any of their choices. they keep looking around. you get these bubbles, these upward momentums and they look at them and say this isn't the right candidate. unfortunately, there's no perfect candidate. you have to take the good with the bad. it's a question of measuring how much you think that this person can actually govern. i think with herman cain, the challenge is going to be convincing people that you really can govern like a
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business. as you and i both know, unfortunately, you do run head on into politics, it doesn't always work that way. >> right. many a former businessman or woman that enters politics i think regrets it in the end. let me ask you this, the way washington works. how much blame do you put on the president and congressional republicans for the current gridlock we're in? >> plenty of blame to go on both sides. what we see happening on wall street, the demonstrations on the wall street protesters, they ought to be in washington or in front of their congressional representatives, their senators or congressman offices. that's where a lot of decisions are being made. the people on wall street, the brokers who are going back and forth. they're trying to earn a living. you can go after the big businesses but they will provide what keeps the economy going too. what you want to get after is the regulators who aren't regulating the way people want them to.
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you see disparity in taxes that would lead people to say we've got to have changes. those changes need to be made in congress. that's where it happens. that's where they need to focus their attention. >> former new jersey governor, christine taught whodd whitman. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. an update on the developing story. the u.s. capitol police are about to begin transporting that suspicious device from capitol hill into a specialized truck. operated by the bomb squad. it's to be transported to quantico. the scene is expected to be cleared safe shortly. messy way to start the morning in washington. our political panel joins us next. got to tell you about the "soup of the day." it's a good one. new one. ch chipotle beef and sour cream. anything that is chip ots otle
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anwar sadat, dead in a terrible massacre in egypt today. >> the daily flashback, in 1981, when gunmen opened fire during a military parade, killing egyptian president sadat, and hosni mubarak was named commander in chief. eight days later he was sworn in as president, a job he held until he was ousted this past february. the president holds a news conference in the east room in an hour. yesterday his chief of staff served up sarcasm, acknowledging changing the tone in washington hantsd exactly been easy.
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>> there was a lot of discussion you were going to strengthen ties with capitol hill, with the business community. how's that going? >> it's going great. things are just really great. the debt ceiling, there was no problem. business community loves us. they love the rhetoric. no problems. >> it's the only way we can get the laugh back on msnbc. >> we have the reporter for "the washington post," kevin madden, campaign spokesman, remains a spokesman and cynthia tucker. welcome all. bill daley, just serving it up. there's actually a little reporting. you cover the white house as well. we know it's trickling out that pete rouse is taking more of a coo role of sorts as the daily
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plouffe. clearly relations with capitol hill are soured. they need to bring back the guy with experience. >> everybody loved pete rouse. the women wanted him to be chief of staff. this white house is in a game of lowering expectations about the economy, sort of admitting some of the things that have gone wrong. they're making course directions in the wake of this book that came out about all the trouble happening. i think you're seeing course correction. >> the hero of the book was pete rouse. it is one of those things in washington. be careful the book that praises you the most. kevin, i want to play for you this daily sound bite from this interview, more serious about the process of washington. gets to what christine whitman was talking about earlier too. here's what he said. >> i would take some responsibility for the relationship that's part of my job. i think everybody in this room, everybody in media, everybody in this town. everybody active in politics has
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to take responsibility for some of the way our political system has gone. >> there's nodoubt it has hit a low point and the assumption was the affable daley and boehner would be able to pull this off. it doesn't matter how affable you are, it's harder. >> this is a critical juncture for the president to be on the same page with his party on capitol hill. there's a big canyon between them. the bigger worry is what bill daley didn't say but what a lot of us could read into those remarks is there is a bit of daylight between the chief of staff and the president. again, this is a critical juncture going into a brutal, by all analysis, a brutal re-election campaign. there are people within the senior staff and white house that are not on the same page with the president. i see it as welcome news as a republican, but it has to be troubling for democrats. >> did you read into that what kevin read into that there?
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obviously we have this report that have gone public, we've been hearing this about pete rouse, there's course correction, the phrase they want to use. >> if there is daylight between the president and daley, it has become more pronounced since the president has taken on a more feisty and combative tone on the campaign trail. that is unlikely to be something that daley is comfortable with. he's a company man, as it were. that's why he was brought. in let me say the president needs his chief of staff less in re-election terms than he needs those democrats on capitol hill. he needs them fired up. he needs democrats and state legislate tore ures fired up. the tone he's taking on now is much more likely to fire them up than that tone of trying to compromise. >> let me ask you this, they're trying to get this thing
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through. on one hand he's changed his tone and has a campaign message, but he does have to get something passed, does he not or do you not think so? >> i don't think so. i don't think he has to get something passed. let's face it. even if he had gotten -- even if he were to get his original jobs bill passed as he outlined it, most economists didn't think it was going to lift the economy that much anyway. i don't think that's any problem with the jobs bill necessarily. it's just the truth about how deep a hole we are in. so in some ways, the president is actually better off if the economy is still bad, being able to say it's still bad because those republicans would not pass my jobs bill. >> i understand. i get that argument. now, i do know and i got told in my ear, harry reid has announced that he's going to the white house. this is the first time we've seen a legislative meeting or the appearance that the white house is trying to come up with
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a strategy on how to actually pass this thing. it appears they want to try to figure out how to pass it through the senate and force the house's hand. >> hard to do though when the house is controlled by eric canter and boehner and they have a caucus of 80 republicans who don't want to see this thing pass. to cynthia's point, the rhetoric from republicans has been that obama didn't have a plan. you know, he didn't have a jobs plan, he didn't have a plan to get the economy on track. he does have a plan. he has something to talk about. in some ways, i think cynthia is right. even if it doesn't get passed, he has something to campaign on. >> one of the big john boehner talking points is where is the focus on jobs when he was hitting the president. there hasn't been a house republican jobs bill that is sort of in the same form that the president did. little pressure on house republicans to at least respond here in some sort of way? >> if you look at the priority. the priorities of the republican
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conference when it comes to jobs are reflected in the bill they pass. the budget that the president proposed wasn't serious about any of the big issues related to entitlement reform or anything on spending or deficit. >> that's a medium term or long term. we have a short term problem. >> the big problem for the president is this was a speech he gave on jobs up there. he has a piece of paper. he's never put together the plan and infrastructure to pass it. this is where i disagree with the rest of the panel is that what's going to help the president is movement on the economy, not messages and talking about it and speeches on the campaign trail. >> stick around. we'll talk a little bit about the administration and waiting apparently. wait until you see all the stuff mitt romney has announced today. he has a cabinet. we asked president pierce approved plans for the first congressional telegraph office in 1853. it was not an apple product. when did capitol hill telegraph office shut down?
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let's bring back our panel. kevin madden, this is for you. judgment demint is listening to steven stills on his ipad. listen to what he said. >> i'm not concerned if someone changed their opinion. i'm a recovering earmarker and led the effort to kill earmarks. we have to convince a lot of people in washington to change their positions because we have to change the direction of the country. >> kevin, you said you have been -- seen some other people who suddenly -- it is as if they are trying to make their peace with potentially supporting a nominee romney. your too many feeling good? >> look, any politics, particularly campaigns, art of persuasion, right? you are not going to have public opinions not an event.
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it is an evolution. what part of the process of winning more voters and consolidating many of the coalitions that are going to be important to win an election? you know, that's what this campaign has been about. so -- i think you will -- you will remember that jim demint was supporter of governor romney in 2008. i'm sure he is very comfortable with governor -- >> he was upset about health care for a long period of time. it looks like he is trying to make his way back. >> that's right. a lot of that has to do with the fact that governor romney has made, you know, made his argument about what he did in massachusetts why. most importantly, this is what campaigns are about. about the put. what he would do as president. he said very clearly that he would repeal obama care with a waiver for the state. >> cynthia, this morning a lot -- romney campaign is churning out endorse many after endorsement this morning. including a national security team that looks very familiar. it is a lot of former bush people. as somebody who is not the biggest supporter of former president bush, is that going -- do you think that's a problem
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for mitt romney? >> now know -- what i think governor romney is doing is continuing his strategy of looking like the inevitable nominee. and surrounding himself with people that -- last person, obviously, last republican who held the white house was george w. bush so those were the people who last had foreign policy experience. some of which is still relevant. some of which remains extremely unpopular with voters. but i think that it is interesting that the governor continues his strategy of trying to appear to be inevitable. >> any danger of playing the inevitability card when people want an outsider? >> yes. he still has primary and tough fight with perry and still really active tea party. there's some danger making -- >> i want to second that. no inevitability. >> all right. shameless plug time. go. >> tomorrow governor romney is giving a speech on foreign
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policy. citadel. beautiful south carolina. >> wow. competing with charleston, south carolina. >> once again, tout the international women's foundation which will hand out courage awards to extraordinary women at the end of the month. iwmf.org. >> thanks for getting address in there. >> "washington post" debate tuesday co-sponsored with bloomberg. all about the economy. should be a good -- >> what time? >> 8:00. only 90 minutes. >> 8:00 p.m. out by 9:30. >> bloomberg television and on the website. >> 9:31. >> all right. thank you. all of that for this edition of "the daily run-down." tomorrow big monthly jobs report.
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