what's on your agenda? >> we will just keep on going at it, hammering away. >> the white house says new unemployment numbers show we need the jobs bill now. what's the response from speaker boehner? >> all we hear from the howers that be here in washington is more the same. >> you've got that right, mr. speaker. ed rendell and e.j. deon on republicans plans. meet willard mitt romney's foreign policy team. it looks a lot like team bush. >> i will devote myself to an american sentry. >> i don't think so, romney/bush. in north carolina, how about the koch brothers billionaires are helping the rep resegregate public schools. parents are fighting back. tonight we will too. "politics nation" starts right now.

welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead. help wanted now more than ever. new job numbers today are driving the point home hard. employers added 103,000 job last month. it's a positive step, but unemployment rate is still at 9.1%, and 14 million americans are still looking for work. to them, each day that congress doesn't pass the president's jobs plan is a day wasted. but reps are stuck in reverse. remember what president obama said at his news conference? >> here's a little homework assignment for folks. go ask the republicans what their jobs plan is, have it

assessed by the same independent economists that have assessed our jobs plan. >> well, today the homework was due, john boehner. listen up. an economist that advises the federal reserve said republican proposals would have, quote, little immediate affect. and mark zandy, john mccain's former economic adviser says republican proposals, quote, won't mean much for the economy and job market in the next year. mr. boehner, your jobs ideas are getting a failing grade. but boehner's answer is that governments should do even less. >> americans continue to be left asking the question -- where are the jobs? it's high time we trust the american people to liberate our economy from the shackles of this government. >> now, joining me now is ed

rendell, former dnc chairman and current nbc news political analyst and e.j. deon, columnist for "the washington post." his latest article argues that american politics reached a pivot point this week. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> good to be with you. >> let me say, e.j. and governor, before i go to you, i want to show us something. at lot of people say why do i keep talking president obama -- we can have different opinions, but not different facts. this is a graft from "the washington monthly."

when we went to here, here, here, and then unemployment started going up, up, here, decreasing, and then we started seeing numbers go up, then down as the stimulus money ran out. un/down, up/down. when we went from here, at the peak of unemployment down here, and then how this president has gradually brought it back, incremental, slow, but clearly a dramatic reverse, then how can anyone argue with me that the facts say that the bush policies put us in this and that the obama policies has slowly began turning this around. governor rendell? >> well, al, i think that is absolutely right. the obama policies helped stop make it worse. there's no question without the first stimulus, which is much mall lined, the conservative omb

office of manage about the budget has said we would have had a point to two points worse unemployment without the first stimulus. so give the president credit for making sure that things didn't slip over the abyss, number one. number two, we've made progress. the sad part is everyone knows for every billion spent on infrastructure, we create 25,000 jobs. the president in this new stimulus wants to spend $75 billion right away, in the next 18 months. that would create close to 1.6 million new jobs by itself. >> now, e.j., you said this week was a pivot week, this changed the whole conversation going on. what do you mean by that? >> i think where you look at where we were for most of the year. we were talking about the tea party, talking about deficit cutting, an insurgency and resurgence. what you have seen are a number of things.

one, the anti-wall street demonstrators have replaced the tea party as the object of our attention, and they're saying the concentrated power is not in wall stre washington, it's on wall street. you have seen the president talk almost inclusively about the jobs. it's real passion earlier this year, and then the republican race settling down. it looks like mitt romney will be the guy at the center of the conversation. he advantage is that a lot of moderates don't really think he believes the conservative things he says. his disadvantage is a lot of -- i think the conservative candidates will put a lot of scrutiny on romney. together we are in a different political place now than we were a couple months ago. >> now, i think that that is

true, and governor rendell, when you look at where the american people are, if you look at the polls of the american people, yes, occupy wall street is part of the conversation. yes, we see the buildup for the national jobs march next saturday. yes, we see the president's strong statement, but the american people themselves are saying in poll numbers, tax cuts for small businesses they support 85%. additional funds for civil servants, 75%. funds for infrastructure 72%, unemployment -- so when you look at these poll numbers, it is clear that this is not just those of us that are marching next saturday or those on wall street or occupation. the american public want to see this whole new kind of economic policy that is being expressed in large part by the president. >> and, al, i would even go

further, the american i think it's -- in fact, 66% of residence would favor that. i would love harry reid to put that to a vote in the signal. i would like to see republican senators raise their hands and vote no on taxing people -- a tiny bit more to the clinton tax rates where we had economic boom. i would love to see them vote no on that. >> now, e.j., despite the fact that i just showed you the poll numbers, it's still a tough election season, and the president's own allies -- says the underdog. look at what vice president biden said in a conversation yesterday with brian williams, because i think that wsh with dave gregory, i'm sorry -- at "meet the press."

the vice president says clearly it's going to be a tough election. >> the american people are dissatisfied for the state of the nation at the moment. that all by itself is enough to make you the underdog. >> is it strong enough of a republican party for its nominee to beat this president? >> oh, absolutely. absolutely. it's strong enough to beat both of us. >> now, john boehner responds by saying, well, our priority is jobs. our priority is helping americans get jobs. let me show you john boehner. >> helping americans get back to work -- it will start with jobs. >> republicans have been focused on job creation since the beginning of this counseling. >> really? if they've been focused on it, they never got to it. the priorities have been investigating planned parenthood, crippling epa rules

about cement plants. i don't see a jobs plan today brought before congress, so if this has been their priority, they have a strange way of getting around to it. >> i think it's true. there is a philosophical disagreement, where the president is saying, look, the way you get the economy moving, is to have the government step in, and you look at the stimulus numbers, my own view is the stimulus should have been bigger than it was, but at the size it was, it did begin to reverse the economy, now, too, he really needs young people to turn out and there's some dispiritedness among young people who are suffering from unemployment, but i think barack obama has been a more effective politician when

he was running from an underdog position, so i think he kind of liked saying that, because i think it puts him in the right frame of mind to fight the election. pinches absolutely, remember, stimulus, despite what the republicans say, had $350 billion of tax cuts, 40% of stimulus wasn't spending, it was tax cuts. we should have spent the money, we should have spent it on infrastructure, spent it on things that created well-paying jobs. the president's learned by that mistake. in this stimulus, he's talking about things that are clearly stimulative, and john boehner ought to be ashamed of himself. at least mitch mcconnell tells the truth. and john boehner, you haven't offered anything that would create jobs other than the same old republican formula, cut taxes, eliminate regulations that didn't work during the bush

presidency. it hasn't worked at any time, it won't work now. >> well, maybe speaker boehner should have done what the president suggested. he should have just done his homework. >> ed ren dead, thank you both for your time, and have a great weekend. >> you too, reverend. join me in washington on saturday, october 15th in our march for jobs and justice. you need to be there. ahead, if you like w's foreign policy, you would love willard mitt romney's foreign policy team. plus one of rick perry's biggest supporters says mormonism is a cult. the attack that's tearing the republican party apart today. scott walker's balancing the budget on the back of the middle class. wait until you see what i caught him splurging on.

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failure, but apparently somebody needs to tell that to willard. today romney delivered a speech outlining his foreign policy views. on the same stage in the same hall, where george w. bush delivered his foreign policy speech a year before the 2000 presidential race. coincidence? i don't think so. because romney's new foreign policy team is loaded with bush cronies. it's back to the future with willard romney bush.

conducting surveillance of u.s. citizens without a warrant. way to go, willard. his other pick, robert kagan. he founded the critical group that rallied neo conservatives to support the invasion of iraq, another great pick. these are the people now advising romney. so if you think launching two wars and illegally spying on americans is a great idea, then willard is your candidate. joining me now, joan walsh, editor at large for salon.com. joan, thanks for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> tonight, are willard romney and other republicans completely tone deaf to the realities of what we've been going through in the last ten years? i mean, can we say tonight they're just tone deaf? >> i would say so.

it's like he's putting the old bands back together, bringing them all back without any regard for the foreign policy disaster they got us into. i think all this team needs right now is a running mate liz cheney. i think she would be an excellent pick for mr. romney. then they would really have the full bush/cheney effect. it's ridiculous. >> i'm laughing to keep from crying. >> it could happen. >> if you look at what mr. romney said today about president obama on foreign policy. >> i will never ever apologize for america. i will knoll surrender america's role in the world. this is very simple. if you do not want america to be the strongest nation on earth, i'm not your president. and he's an apologyist for

america but interestingly enough, who is willard's party chair in the congress, let me show you what speaker boehner said. >> i've been very supportive of the president's decisions in iraq and afghanistan. >> when you look at the prosecution of the war effort against the enemy in the tribal areas. there's clearly moran done under president obama than under president bush. >> more than done under president obama than president bush. this is what boehner says, joan. maybe willard needs to talk to some people other than the bush croni cronies. >> he's waged a very, very strong, some would even say

militaristic -- some of his supporters are disappointed, but one area he's been successful has been in the military area, so this is just -- it's really wrong for someone to say this president doesn't want us to be the strongest country in the world. he's also -- he told a flat-out lie. he said he would reverse the defense cuts. there haven't been defense cuts. defense spending has grown under president obama. so he's just starting with fiction and bringing back the bush team, bringing back the greatest hits. i think it's got to dare even republicans. >> well, if you think he's writing fiction, let me tell you, he's not by himself. >> some of let me tell you what the republicans are saying. >> the united states airpower could have shortened this

dramatically, and unfortunately we chose not to. we led from behind. >> i applaud president obama for ordering the raid that finally brought osama bin laden to his just fate. i only wish he had shown more commitment to the cause of freedom. >> today our allies do not know where america will be on any given day because of the muddled aimless wavers foreign policy we have coming out of the white house. >> clearly they're going to try to do this drumbeat and redo the facts. but joan, what scares me when you brought this up, about the bush cronies, is their almost obsession request a real pro-military kind of culture and a move no matter what toward warfare. and in my opinion. when i think about iran and about the prospects of this

crowd getting the white house, seeing what they did in iraq when there was no weapons of mass destruction, when we have the whole situation with iran, i'm afraid, really afraid if this crowd gets back in charge of the military. listen at what romney said about iran himself, who has gathered this team. >> right. >> because i think -- i want them to -- once we get this, put it up and let me show joan what i'm talking about. once you understand what romney is thinking, and then see the bush iraq team -- the bush interrogation team around him and think of iran, it's not funny anymore. >> right. >> let me show you what he said. >> will enhance our deterrent against the iranian regime be ordering the regular presence of aircraft carrier task forces. i will again reiterate that iran

obtaining a nuclear weapon is unacceptable. >> what do you read from that when he's saying the threat t. when you know the team around him, that wasn't, alts scary, joan. >> well, yeah, more than that, reverend al, because he's got people on his team who have active called for military intervention. there are several people, who have said we can't rule it out. i don't like to see it taken off the table, elliott cohen that is said that. some of the iraq hawks moved on to iran, and really believe we should be -- either we or israel need to hit iran, take that out and start another war. so it's not theoretical. it really is that there are people around him who think that's a positive option, and then we would have three wars. >> wow. joan walsh, thank you for your time tonight. enjoy your weekend. thank you.

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spontaneity. it's an independent, people coming, it's young, it's spontaneous, it's focused, and it's going to be effective. >> the protests are a legitimate movement, but to republicans, it's just mob rule. first willard mitt romney called the protesters dangerous. now there's a new attack trend. >> as far as this occupy wall street movement goes, you know, i see it sort of like a paris mob. i for one am increasingly concerned about the growing mobs occupying wall street, and the other cities across the country. >> they're concerned about growing mobs. even when the tail party is carrying guns and threatening violence and -- just listen to

how they talked about it last year. >> it's an organic movement, not some movement that started in washington. it's about the people. they represent and reflect the frustration that americans have at what's going on in washington. >> so what makes the tea party organic and occupy wall street just a mob? here's a hint -- wall street republicans always stick up for their corporate buddies, so anyone attacking corporations must be bad. as i said last night, corporations aren't people, they're republicans. joining me now is dana milbank, and erin mcpine. thanks for joining mess. dana, how can president obama use this the 99% movement against republicans.

they are very right any wary of getting too entangled with president obama. they got behind him in 2008 and he ditched progressives, as he tried to govern the country. they don't want to allow him -- he wants to channel that in almost a mirror image in the way the republicans have -- what's surprising is that it took so long to be a pop you list rebellion. they wound up defending tax cuts for people making over a million dollars. i think you're seeing a reaction to that now that's more of a genuine populist movement. >> erin, how do we explain to people that are watch iing that are totally objective, that how mr. kantor calls this mob at the values conference today, and on that same stage -- same stage,

same group. he said, and i'm quoting him now, on the fighting lines of what we know as a battle of the democracy. now, the tea party was gathered around buildings, some violence suggested, some of them even gun-toting. >> you're absolutely right. it does seem hypocritical. what these people are doing, this occupy wall street movement, it's full of people just exercising their first amendment rights. so you're right, the republicans don't really have a leg to stand on when they're criticizing them, because they too speak about people needing to exercise their first amendment rights. it's just really -- this movement is bad for the republicans politically, it gets in the way of the momentum they have built up over the last

couple years. that's why they're speaking out against it. it's politics. but let me say this, going back to you a minute, dana, when you talk about president obama not being the face of this and i think whether they can stand up and say, where you're for democrats or -- everybody should stand up. if they were looking for a president that could be a spokesperson, let me show you what ronald reagan said that would be very much in line with some of the fields that's being express expressed ronald reagan, in fact, why don't we have raili

railinging and olet me show you. >> we're going to close the unproductive tax loop holes that have allowed some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. in theory some of those were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing while a bus driver was paying 10% of his salary, and that's crazy. do you think the millionaire ought to pay more than the bus driver or less? >> do you think a millionaire ought to pay more in taxes or less in dana, i love every time i hear ronald reagan say that. in the words of my college, chris, it makes something go tickling up my leg. >> ronald reagan is the patron saint of this -- but in my

ideas, it will make him no longer at home in this party. i don't think it matters particularly much what others are saying about this new movement, just as, you know, nancy pelosi dismissed the tea party as astroturf, there were the allegations of racism, of violence. i saw them toting automatic weapons myself at one of these rallies, but ultimately that didn't have an effect on the movement itself, because that was generated from within. so i don't think that republican statements about this movement are going to do anything but embolden them further. >> i want to shift to big news that happened at the republican conference today. rick perry was introduced by an evangelical pastor robert jeffers, one of the organizers of the big summer prayer rally. after formally endorsing perry today, he dropped this bombshell.

>> rick perry is an evangelical christian, a good, moral perso., mormonism has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of christianity. so it's the difference between a christian and nonchristian. the spokesman responded by saying perry does not believe mormonism is a cult. i had this debate and discussions, views based on the history. i went to salt lake city. they're not a cult, whether i agree with their denomination or not. how will this play in the campaign through the primaries whether you're dealing with some very conservative christian voters? >> well, mitt romney had to deal with this four years ago. i was with hit at a lot of events in iowa, especially four years ago, and he got questions all the time about his faith. he always had to answer them. mitt romney has not been on the

campaign trail yet and is just starting to pick it up. hi hasn't had to deal with it most of this year. as we see him campaign more, it's very likely he'll get more. as he responds, we have yet to see. as you know, he gave a big speech on religion four years ago. that came about finally after he was prodded by many political types to address this issue. there was a push/pull in iowa essentially when a firm connected to mike huckabee was discussing voters, and after that mitt romney gave a very contentious press conference. that's what sparked him to start writing this big speech on the freedom of religion. it was almost too late and he croon get beyond the issue. so we'll see how he addresses it this time. as you know, there's another mormon in the race, jon huntsman, who has talked about it and said religion is not that strong for him.

he gets satisfaction from all kinds of religion, so he's kind of walked away from the religion, whereas mitt romney has said he et cetera proud of his faith. so we don't know how he's going to handle it this time. he may try to hold it off until after he gets the nomination, and then have to address it again. how will it play out? it depends on the states. >> it seems like we were told at the end of 2008 that we got past bias, religion and race, and now we're talking about mormonism. tonight we spent a lot of this week having to deal with the "n" word, it seems like all of this post racial, post religious bias was more of and reality in american politics. >> maybe so, but i think there could be good news.

it looks as if there's reason to believe this will turn out to be against rick perry, to turn to his disadvantage. bus hi idea is to carve them up most the other candidates. what you may see is some of the establishment reports after seeing the painted over rock and this business with the mormons, bes in no say this is not what we bargained for. >> first they have to drag them from under the rocks. >> thanks both of you, and have a great weekend. >> thank you. ahead, the koch brothers might have a hand in resegregating our schools. it's a story you need to hear.

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from new voter i.d. laws to abortion restrictions, the right-wing conservatives are doing in states across the country, what they do seems crazy. extremism may be crazy, but it's real, taking place all over. now comes this. north carolina might be days away from resegregating the schools. more than 50 years after the brown versus the board of education. twoiers conservative multimillionaire art pope and billionaire koch brothers bankrolled three new numbs on the wake county school board. why would they do this? they have this amazing program these corporate sponsored board members -- outraged parents and

students protested. >> this is really ridiculous. i don't think anybody that has an ounce of sense should even think that this is okay to try to get rid of a diverse drgs. >> the public school systems, board of the education is single handedly destroying our school and everything that's made it great. >> it hasn't happened yet, but this tuesday, the board faces reelection, and first up on the agenda, on -- and moving back towards segregation. as i said, it's crazy, but it's real. joining me now is one of the people on the front lines of this fight, reverend william barber. welcome to the show.

>> always good to be with you, and thank you for all that you do. >> i'm finding about this is a tuesday vote, clearly the program worked. tell us first around the country how this kind of program in terms of comparing the students and the grade levels with the surrounding counties that did not have this kind of diversity program? >> in fact many times the media hasn't gotten it wrong. it really wasn't about the bussing. 99% of the students go to school within five miles. blacks and whites came together in 2000, and basically said how do we make healthy schools? what's the formula? theyunder toad that the formula was diverse schools with resources. so the goal was to have more

than 25% of students at any one school that were underperforming, and no more than 40% that were free or reduced lunch. it was amazing in how this program began to work. scores went up. one of highest in the country. >> and it wasn't that before this program, and now they have passed their high school exams? >> exactly. when you look at advanced ed, for instance, examined the system, says you don't have these kind of numbers in any other era area. when this crowd came in, financed by art pope and the right wing, the first thing they did, the first meeting without any research, any data, they had a premeditated ideological

regressive attitude to vote to dismantle the policy that blacks and whites had put together. >> what is the motive? >> they used this code word neighborhood schools. it's very diadvicive. when you look at where the money flows, thousands have come in from art pope. he put in $2 million to basically define candidates. it is a very, very ultra-conservative notion, and neighborhood schools is nothing more than a code word for resegregated schools. we have an e-mail that was sent, on to the chairman saying art pope's plan worked, has bork. they have spent their time dismantling. the first students they moved,

the first school they opened. this is a dangerous trend, why we have to fight it. why you see in north carolina and wake county, and blacks and whites and business people saying this is the wrong direction. almost like thecht to get on the bus and tell the bus driver to go in reverse. >> they're doing it across the board. reverend william barber, we'll be watching this. thank you for your time. good luck on tuesday. >> everybody needs to vote. the hatred of president obama crosses the line. that's next. my doctor told me calcium

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borts on hannity last night. >> barack obama is a bigger disaster to this country than 9/11. killing the individualism, the self-reliance and self-respect of the american people like barack obama has done is much more of a tragedy. >> barack obama a bigger disaster than 9/11 and a crowd cheering? how about we get here? earlier this week hank williams jr. was fired for saying this. >> remember the golf game? that was one of the biggest political mistakes ever. >> you mean when john boehner played golf with president obama? >> oh, yeah. >> what did you not like about it? it seems to be a pivotal moment. >> c'mon, that would be like hitler playing golf with

netanyahu. >> sadly this is nothing new from the tea party, from the birthers, to "you lied" joe wilson, to palling around with terrorists. these guys won't stop. i've learned throughout my career words matter. i said things that i had to think and say, you know what? i shouldn't have said that. these guys have gone even more extreme than some of the extremists i grew up with. i've learned if you have a real belief and a real point, you don't need to be ugly, and you don't need to be poisonous to make a point. that's why when we marched next saturday for jobs and justice in washington, we're going to use the language and the style that dr. king and others would be proud of since we are dedicating his memorial, because i understand now what i didn't understand when i was young, that it