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a new life. what's amanda knox been up to in the days since returning from italy? new details this morning. and welcome to "weekends with alex witt." we're at 9:00 on the east coast. 6:00 a.m. out west. fiery words from a pastor attacking mitt romney's religious faith. the reverend introduced rick perry at the values voter summit sparked controversy with comments he made about mormonism. >> rick perry the a christian. evangelical christian a follower of jesus christ. mitt romney's a good, moral person but not a christian. mormonism is not christianity. it has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of christianity. it's the difference between a christian and a non-christian. >> perry the campaign released a statement saying the governor does not believe mormonism is a cult. after a campaign event in iowa, perry was asked about his view of mormonism. >> governor, mormonism -- is it a cult? >> no.

>> you really don't think so? >> i don't want to answer that -- >> attempting to distance himself, they did not choose him to give perry the introduction. they suggested the pastor. perry's campaign signed off on him. more on all this in a moment. perry did not discuss romney's religion during his speech at the values voters summit but weighed in social issues and took a veiled shot at romney's stance on abortion. >> some candidates pro-life is an election year slogan to follow the prevailing political winds. to me, it's about the absolute principle that every human being is entitled to life. >> herman cain also spoke at the summit friday, and he attacked the obama administration and also had harsh words for the occupy wall street movement. >> those demonstrations on wall street, they are

anti-capitalism. they are anti-free market. wall street didn't write these failed economic policies. the white house did. why don't you move the demonstration to the white house? that's why you don't have a job. that's why you don't have a business. move it to the white house. >> meanwhile, michele bachmann outline her presidential priorities and exactly what she would do in the first 100 days. >> the only reason i would go to the oval office is to actually do what needs to be done. repeal obamacare, repeal dodd-frank, change the tax code, get the country on the right track. it will be a 100 days like you have never seen before -- >> meanwhile, the critical question of the 2012 primary dates. the iowa republican party is tentatively scheduled caucuses for january 3rd. if they keep that date it leaves

new hampshire as the final early primary question mark. nevada set its caucuses for january 14th and south carolina's primary on the 21st. new hampshire's leadership doesn't want a december primary but will only announce a date after october 17th. back at the white house, new word this morning from president obama on jobs. in his weekly address, the president urged senators on both sides to pass his jobs bill next week, or volunteer new solutions. he also defended paying for his bill with taxes on the rich. >> some see this as class warfare. i see it as a simple choice. we can either keep taxes exactly as they are for millionaires and billionaires or we can ask them to pay at least the same rate as a plumber or a bus driver. >> reporte >> joining me now, mike have kara. good saturday morning. >> reporter: hello, alex. >> how is the statement saying mormonism is a cult? how's that reverberating in d.c.? >> reporter: interesting. this is the essential question

of presidential politics as the campaign season heats up, alex. the field settled over the course of last week. of course, chris christie declined to run. sarah palin confirmed what everybody suspected, she's not running. so the field is pretty much settled and you have two front-runner, rick perry, governor of texas, and mitt romney, but turmoil now overtaking it. this is the essential question. will the eventual winner of republican primaries have to go so far to the right to gain support of social conservatives gathered this weekend here in washington for the value voters summit and still have the leeway to get back towards the center that's going to be essential to take on president obama next fall? the president calls himself an underdog. his vice president told david gregory the other day, absolutely the republican party is strong enough to beat us, meaning president obama and myself, vice president biden, but the question is, will the republicans be able to win the independent voters? that's been the question all along and certainly a lot of turmoil starting off.

something mitt romney as you pointed out has had to address in the past. suspicion on the part of evangelicals that help make up the basis of the republican party. apparently he's going to have to explain it again. >> yeah. >> how about the president's jobs plan, mike? where does that stand now? >> reporter: well, in limbo, of course. the senate is taking it up this week. house leaders, led by republicans, have said they don't like the all or nothing approach. unlikely to see the light of day. the spread hitting hard on that. he's asked an interesting question in that press conference he on thursday. whether or not he was campaigning or negotiating with republicans. the president said, look, i'll run like 1948 and harry truman against a do nothing congress, but all republicans have to do is pass something and i won't be able to do that. the battle lines are being drawn on both sides. both appear fairly comfortable where they are, alex. >> mike viqueira at the white house. thanks. a program note, tomorrow on

"meet the press," david gregory welcomes rahm emanuel and speaking with david gregory. more shock shoulding turns this morning in the investigation into the mysterious disappearance of a baby girl from her bedroom in missouri. fbi agents searched a kansas city area land phil fridfill fr the second time. her parents reported her missing earlier this week. the mother said she put the baby to bed and several hours later the father discovered their daughter was missing when he came home from working an overnight shift. police say the couple has stopped cooperating with investigators. a claim the parents deny. from there now to los angeles and fresh intrigue in the dr. conrad murray trial. hearing from him about what happened the day michael jackson died. in court friday, prosecutors played audiotapes recorded by detectives who interviewed murray after jackson's death. jurors heard murray say that jackson developed a dependency on the anesthetic murray gave him to help with insomnia and

jackson was nervous about missing rehearsal for his upcoming tour. >> he said, i can't function if i don't sleep. they'll have to cancel it. i don't want them to cancel it, but they will have to cancel it. so i agreed at that time, that i would switch the propofol. >> murray pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. if convicted he faces up to four years behind bars. wall street is still occupied this morning. the protesters in new york have been camping out in the financial district for three weeks with no signs of stopping. and demonstrations have been held from san francisco to chicago, in fact, they have spread to dozens of other cities including minneapolis and a total of 45 states have been the target of protests. nbc's lilia is with us this morning. what's the latest from there? >> reporter: good morning, alex.

here where it all began on wall street, protesters just started to wake up in the past few hours to organize what's ahead in the day. last night i was around here and it was very interesting, because there was different jewish denominations holding a service for yom kippur. everybody around sheer ture pro are 100% non-violent. they had general assemblies, they split the groups and make sure they voice concerns and are constantly calling no ing for t peaceful, non-violent movement. last night i talk to different people. the more you talk to different people, the more you realize there's really not one goal but many. one of the things critics brought out. near the occupy wall street movement there's not one defined message. but that's what they themselves are embracing, saying whether you're concerned about jobs, whether it's wages, whether it's unemployment, they're all approaches one goal, and that is to drive for change.

i spoke to one student who's a columbia graduate, sent out 977 resumes and so far not a single interview for a job. >> what? a kid from columbia? that is remarkable. that many resume's. wow. that speaks volumes. lilia, if there are multiple things that these people are going for or things they're protesting against, what is the end game? how long will they be here? is there a point at which you feel they're going to say, okay. we've made our point? or are they going to wait until they get answers? >> reporter: certainly one of my questions throughout the past day or so. people, what they say is, they have a list of goals. they have posted it online. they're trying to make it more concise. they're trying to make their goals, i guess, easier to reach, and they're trying to make sure that whole country joins them in this protest for the different goals, but let's face it, it's all about the economy. there's no doubt about that. >> okay. nbc's lilia luciano downtown.

thanks so much. in minutes, more on the firestorm stirred when a pastor called mitt romney's religion a cult. people around the world continue to pay tribute to the late steve jobs, and this morning there's word his life story will hit the big screen. more on that in a moment. also ahead, settling in. how is life for amanda knox now that she's back in her hometown. and in politics, msnbc 's mike barn ik'll. you're watching "weekends with alex witt" on msnbc saturday. [ spectator ] gun it, bro! what's this guy doing? dude. [ laughs ] whoa! whoo! no way! go, go, go, go! are you kidding? [ cheering ] oh, my god. did you guys see that? maniac. [ male announcer ] the midsize nissan frontier with full size horsepower and torque. innovation for doers. innovation for all. ♪

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before long you'll be able to see steve jobs the movie. sony in final talks to acquire a movie about the apple fonder and

the highly anticipated biography of steve jobs moved up and out this month. currently the number one best-seller on amazon.com. lots of people paying tribute to apple's ceo steve jobs by purchasing his signature black turtleneck. the company responsible for making the shirts is donating $20 to the american cancer society for each turtleneck sold. more on the explosive comments from a rick perry supporter who called mitt romney's religion a cult. perry's campaign says the texas governor does not agree with the reverend. contender rick santorum on "hardball" last night. >> mitt romney, even the -- he's a good, moral man. >> is he christian? >> he believes he's a christian. i'm not an expert. >> you're hedging. is he a christian? you don't -- >> every mormon i know believes they are christian. i'm not an expert in mormonism. if they say they're christian,

as far as i'm concerned they're christian. >> joining me on strategy talk, white house reporter for "the washington post." good saturday morning. >> hey, alex. >> the president had to swat away religious questions during his white house run. what is the read from him and his campaign advisers? is there sympathy for romney's plot or happy to see a splintering gop here? >> last week the president's aides said when it comes down to things happening in the republican primary right now, the president's going to engage when he sees an opening, an issue to take on, but he's not going to be involved in every issue. this is not one that's a winner for the president to get involved in. clearly, as you said, we went through this himself in 2008 and it is not something they're going to, the president and the white house fanning the flames on this one. even if they like the idea that the republicans are hitting each other, and romney, who is considered probably the one candidate hoop might be able to really take on the president in a general election, you know, weaken him a little bit.

it's not something they're going to actively take on. >> i imagine you're absolutely correct. you said, if they like seeing this. any whispering, we want the gop to splinter up here and go after the presumptive front-runner now? >> absolutely. anything that can happen to hurt romney now as he continues to be the leader and the one, as i said in a general election may have a better chance at beating the president. any weakening of the candidates is good, but -- for the white house -- again, not something they'll be activelyive involved in. >> listen to mitt romney talking about his faith back in 2007. here it is. >> when i placed my hand on the bible and take the oath of office, that oath becomes my highest promise to god. if i'm fortunate to become your president, i will serve no one religion, no one group, no one cause, and no one interest. a president must serve only the common cause of the people of the united states. >> so it's different being in

campaign mode than it is being president. president obama faced the questions about his faith while running. but not while in office. i mean, wouldn't that be the tr -- the same truth for mitt romney? >> yes. i mean, there's going to be an issue. it's probably not going away anytime soon. stories about even the white house and the president sort of looking at romney as a potential candidate and reports of the white house strategy to paint him as a bit strange. not by religion, as a general sort of candidate. i think that, though, if you look at how sort of the president's had to deal with even racial issues as he's gone through, sort of made the same idea he's going to be a president who governs broadly, and taken criticism lately from the african-american community, not focusing enough. anybody running for this kind of office has to deal with who they're going to serve, who their constituents to be and explain it's the broadest possible. >> yeah. the president met yesterday with senate democrats. did they come out of that

meeting thinking we can get a jobs bill together that house republicans will pass? >> that's a -- that's a difficult thing to think. i think they're strategy is to see how it can pass the senate pt right now it's not clear it can do that as an entire bill. the house talked about maybe they would consider parts of the bill if it was, eric kantecanto take up small pieces we agree with. if they can find any kind of way to pass the senate and still not clear they can get 60 votes to avoid a filibuster, as you've seen, senate democrats changed parts of the way that they would pay for the president's jobs plan. that's the first step and that's coming this week. you'll see a vote probably in the senate this week on the bill, if they can muster enough votes to pass that, that would put the leverage on the house. >> many thanks as always, david. thank you. >> thank you. today's twitter question. should religion be about issue? talk to me on twitter. my handle is @alexwitt.

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in los angeles, the doctor of "morning joe's" trial. taking the stand, the mother of his child, to which he had shipments of propofol sent and a witness murray was talking when he noticed something had gone horribly wrong. >> i was just talking and the

next thing you know, i was like -- i said, hello? hello? and i didn't hear anything. and that's when i pressed the phone against my ear, and i heard mumbling of voices. it sounded like the phone was maybe in his pocket or something. it was, shhh. and i heard care offing. >> as professional actress my daily duties consist of maintaining my instrument, going on several castings throughout town, meeting with different casting directors and continuing to study and refine my craft. >> when you refer to an instrument what are you referring to? >> myself. >> i see. >> myself, as an actor your instrument is your self. >> ms. alvarez, are you living with conrad murray at this point in time? >> yes. >> and back when your relationship with conrad murray became more serious, certainly before the birth of your son, was conrad murray living at your residence? >> yes. >> was he also providing financial support to you?

>> yes. >> you pay your rent? >> objection. relevance. >> overruled. you may answer it. >> yes. >> day ten of the trial is monday. dr. murray faces four years in jail if convicted. for the first time, one of the italian jurors in the amanda knox trial is speaking publicly. the juror says he was never convinced by the prosecution's case and believes she did not kill her british roommate. meanwhile, back to the united states arriving back to seattle less than a week ago. the latest from jonathan martin, staff reporter with the "times." she arrived back in seattle tuesday. what have you heard about how she's adjusting to life back here at home? >> reporter: adjusting very quietly and privately at this point. there's quite a few international press out looking for her right now, and thus far haven't been able to find her. >> you know, we saw her in the video we're showing now, when

she first took the podium and spoke briefly after arriving. we've not heard from her since. do you think we will hear her talking anytime again soon? >> i think it's likely she's going to have to talk about her conviction and trial, and meredith's death. the question is, on what terms? by you indications she's going to want to write a book and has been apparently writing while in jail. i think there are also, i've heard, knox is going to be wanting to lend her name or get interested in potential other wrongful conviction cases, or questionable conviction cases of internationals abroad including a man named jason from tacoma convicted in nicaragua. >> i'm curious. are people hounding her? what was the scene outside her home? i believe it's a west seattle area home? >> yes. >> what was that like? can she ever go under the radar?

>> a really good question. you saw at the press conference at sea-tac on monday, no concept of how large her name had become while she was in prison. you have to remember, she didn't have access to the internet and twitter didn't exist when she was first convicted. so on tuesday there was just hoards of people outside but the local tv stations have made an interesting decision and all the stations pulled their news vans from out front. her ability to integrate is going to be depending in part on the way seattle is going to let her live a normal life. >> do we know what's next for her? do we have any idea? when you say she's writing, keeping something of a journal to keep her santsant -- sanity? she was just a junior fall semester student in college. >> i understand she does want to go back to the university of

washington. the interesting thing from the seattle perspective about her, she looked quite typical of a seattle university college student. you know. she kind of came across as sort of a hippie, somewhat a little loopy guitar strumming pot smoking traveling kind of kid, which we found very -- i think we will find on our culture very recognizable, but there was obviously cultural differences that were misinterpreted in her case. but what comes next for her i think will be, like i said, depends in part on seattle's ability to let her live a normal life, but i think it's also her ability to deal with the, the people that still believe, and there is a core group of people that still believe that she got away with murder, and i think her ability to deal with those people and also she's got some other proceedings going on that are going on in italy, but it's mostly going to be the people

that still believe she's guilty. >> yeah. something for her to have to deal with certainly. jonathan martin, "seattle times." thank you. >> thank you. this morning on the campaign trail, religion resurfaces, and mitt romney's beliefs under attack. it comes from a supporter of rick perry, should the texas governor have to answer for one of his backers? you're watching "weekends with alex witt." all systems prepare to engage. captain, unidentified object -- detergent chamber. that's a cascade complete pac. the best of cascade powder and gel combined in one vessel. brilliant. we're gonna need it! lasagna pan -- lower rack! fire! [ female announcer ] conquer tough foods and greasy messes. [ woman ] wow! [ crew ] yeah!

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welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." it's a big day for conservative presidential candidates. this morning, ron paul addresseded values voter conference. mitt romney will address that conference shortly, and hopes to sidestep the controversy that caught up with rick perry surrounding the man who introduced him yesterday. >> do we want a candidate who is a good, moral person? or do we want a candidate who is a born again follower of the lord jesus christ? rick perry is a prudent leader. he is a true conservative, and he is a genuine follower of jesus christ.

>> nbc campaign carrie jann joins us. you spoke with the pastor when he used the word "cult" to describe mormonism. will the pastor's statement dog perry through the campaign and into the next debate? >> reporter: well, good morning. what happened yesterday, as you saw, the perry campaign once again responding to a controversy and doing damage control and talking about controversy rather than the governor's remarks at this conference themselves. as you saw in that clip that you played, this pastor sort of hinted at mitt romney's religion being an issue, or at least perry's evangelicalism being really important to voters there. actually, probably not doing a lot of favors. talking to a lot of press for an extended amount of time. he told me he believed while mitt romney is a good man and a good, moral person with a good family, that he is not a christian, and that mormonism has long been regarded in major

christianity as a cult. not something he just said to msnbc. he said it to a lot of reporters and you saw the comments being played over and observer. the perry campaign said they honestly doan espouse his ideas, and rick perry told us yesterday he does not believe mormonism is a cult. while the pastor did produce rick perry, that that was at the request of organizers and they did not organize this endorsement and the pastor's comments before rick perry spoke yesterday. >> didn't the rick perry campaign staffers suggested the pastor to be the one to introduce him? i mean, granted the other people may have booked him, but they had to sign off on him. didn't they? >> reporter: according to those runninged event, the perry campaign signed off on the introduction, before rick perry spoke, people from the pastor's church came around and handed out fliers that indicated he was going to endorse rick perry at this event but not on perry's

stationary. they were from the church and the campaign says while they did sign off on this production int they did not arrange it. >> carrie, 20 minutes or so from now rick perry will take the podium. what do we expect to hear from the former massachusetts governor? >> reporter: this is going to be an interesting speech for mitt romney. sometimes he talks a lot about family values and the economy. he doesn't always delve into issues of religion for reasons that were very obvious yesterday, with a controversy with this pastor. wee seal what he says. an interesting take from ron paul who spoke this morning. something you don't normally hear from a libertarian candidate. talking about economic, his anti-war values actually tie back to the bible and spoke at length about scripture. that's something we're going to see again today as well. >> carrie jann, many thanks. don't forget to stay current on the latest with the campaign trail. stunning new twists in the case of a missing baby in

missouri. fbi has joined kansas city police in a search of a landfill not far from the home before the baby was last seen. this is the second time investigators combed that area looking for any possible clues. baby lisa's parents reported the 10-month-old missing tuesday morning, but on thursday night, police said the couple stopped cooperating with detectives, a claim the couple denies. on friday, the mother, deborah bradley, told the "today" show she was given a lie detector test and told she failed it. investigative reporter with us, michelle good saturday morning. what are the police saying here in terms of the parents cooperating with the authorities, or not? >> about 30 minutes ago i spoke with captain young from the kansas city police, and he said he was heading out to the command post site to meet with the lead investigators on this case, and to review, to find out if overnight if the parents were able, again, to meet with authorities. as of yesterday afternoon and at his last check, they had not had

that sort of reunion again for information. he thinks that it's great that they want to cooperate. it's great that they want to continue to work with investigators. they welcome that wholeheartedly and just want to be able to move forward with this investigation. you know, and any kind of missing person case like this, alex, the last people to see the child or the missing person, or any, even any kind of crime, they have to be ruled out. in order for them to kind of keep fanning their way out and, you know, questioning others and collecting information. >> yeah. okay. let's talk about a lie detector test. first of all, is that standard operating procedure, to administer a lie detector test to a parent when their child has gone missing, and is there any, anything that can account for heightened emotions and the like of a parent while taking a test like that? >> sometimes it is common, and sometimes investigators will ask people involved in the case or people that are close to the

missing, you know, the missing person, the missing childs in this case, you know if they would be willing to step up to the plate and to take a lie detector test. i'm not a lie detective expert, unfortunately, but what i can tell you is, you know, a lot of times you cannot use this in a court of law. and it's sort of an investigative tactic to be able to see sort of where the person they're questioning is failing and/or excelling. so in this particular case, captain young was like, look, i can't comment on the lie detector. mom has obviously come out to say she was told that she did not pass, and so i think, you know, at this particular point, there are -- there is, of course, a lot of emotion going into this. anytime a child goes missing, anytime there's a case like this, you know, parents, of course, are going to go through an array of emotions. at this particular point our focus needs to be on just finding this child, helping the parents figure out where she is. if you have any information, pick up the phone and call. investigators are looking at new leads and going out to be able

to find those. >> michelle, many thanks. >> have a good day. >> you, too. alabama state legislators a new law will keep immigrants out of their state, but it's having a negative effect on the state's agriculture industry. state farmers ro erers looking of land and fewer help to bring in the crops. they're facing a major worker shortage. >> how many harvested? >> 85 to 90. >> and now? >> 40 to 45. >> those same state farmers say they aren't seeinged influx of american workers to their job sites since that law took effect. september's jobless report beat analyst forecasts. the 103,000 jobs added is no big win for president obama. i spoke with msnbc contributor and emergen"morning joe" regula barnicle and how he found himself fighting for his job. >> the thing that sort of mystified me about the obama

presidency, first of all, personally, i like him. >> uh-huh. >> i think -- >> most americans do, by the way. say they like him. >> i'll say i like him. as an american citizen, i want limb to succeed. he's my president. he's our president. >> right. >> but i couldn't understand why a year and a half ago or two years ago when they first indicated, when the administration first indicated that there should be a higher tax rate on millionaires in order to help pay for things, like a couple of wars, things like that, that they a while. they've come back to it in the past few days, but, i mean, that is such a huge issue. i think it resonates so well in this country. i couldn't understand why they just didn't plant the flag a couple of years ago and drum that message out every day. and the only thing i can think of is, you know, his nature.

i think by nature he's a conciliatory guy, and it's not because he lacks courage, certainly. it's not because he lacks political instinct, certainly. i think just his nature is, let's mediate this thing. can't we meet half way here? with john boehner, or cantor. but, guess what? he can't. >> how do folks in massachusetts feel about their former governor mitt romney? he's a successful businessman. look at the force he's personally amassed? do you think he has a good shot, if no nor other reason the state of the economy? >> romney has a better shot than most of the others in that field against barack obama. not because of romney's background but because of what's on our plate as a nation. nearly 10% real unemployment. the level of anxiety in this

country. you're a parent. i'm a parent. when you sit there and you come to the realization, or at least it's your realization, that, you know what? my kids are never going to do as well in this country as i've done. that's sort of like a shock to the system. >> it is. >> and that's out there, and that's a huge thing for the president. president obama, to have to deal with as he runs for office. you know, in 1988 another governor of massachusetts was running for president. michael dukakis. in his acceptance speech at the democratic convention in atlanta in the summer of 1988 he uttered kind of a foolish line in terms of national politics when he said, this election is about competence, not ideology. the e election between him and then vice president george h.w. bush, but almost every national election has always been at its basic level about ideology. this year it actually might

hinge more on competence than it does on ideology, i think, and competence in the sense of a romney, as you pointed out. i can fix this. i can be better at attracting jobs, keeping jobs, drawing the company than this guy has been. >> what happened to the red sox this year and how painful was it to watch them implode in the month of september for -- a part of red sox nation? >> they didn't deserve to win because of the way they played in september. the way they played in september is a result of something all the little boys and girls can learn from out lieutenant in red sox nation and beyond. it is, if you have a sense of entitlement about you and your particular talent, whether it's, you know, you have a tv show, whether it's you're a writer, whether you're a schoolteacher, whatever it is, or a baseball player, major league baseball player if you have a sense of entitlement about your talents, your abilities, and you think that, well, you know, i can turn it on when i need to turn it on.

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apple founder steve jobs has been laid to rest. a small, private funeral read yesterday for jobs. according to the wall street journal. positive public funeral it's planned. millions around the world are still talking about steve jobs this weekend. former co-workers analyzinged legacy of steve jobs. his introduction of the incredibly popular ipad capped his unique vision of technology and innovation. joining me now from san francisco is the author of "the steve jobs way," jay elliott. good morning, jay. >> good morning. >> so -- >> thanks for having me. >> i'm glad you're here because you knew and worked at apple with him. how tough that his week been for you? >> very difficult. when i heard the news i had to pull off the road and just broke down. i didn't expect that reaction, because i expected his -- he was

getting so sick, this was going to happen but i didn't expect my reaction. >> yeah. what was it about steve that made him such a success? was it sheer brilliance or was it a whole package of things? >> whole package of things but it starts with a passion for the product and a passion for who's going to use the product. that's number one. >> okay. behind the curtain, though, we all want to know what steve jobs was like. he pretty fiercely guarded his privacy. tell us about the steve jobs that you knew. >> the steve jobs i knew was totally committed to the business. he obviously was very interested in making sure that anybody who used the product was going to have this great experience. on the private side, he was totally private. what's important that people understand, that's the way he was, but he had as much passion for his private life as his public life. he also was a very shy guy. notice he's like a rock star on one hand, but the other hand, he didn't really get into the

spotlight, except when he was going to introduce products. >> you know, we loved watching him. get on these huge stages with these huge screens behind him, but he was still pretty removed from everybody who would be at those news conferences. i mean, the news conferences. it was sort of metaphor cal for the way he was. >> and that's the shyness. steve was really in public, he was a shy guy. he didn't want to be in the spotlight. he wanted you to keep the product in the spotlight. when he was on the stage, he was an iphone or an ipad. it wasn't steve. that's the way he operated. he was always two years ahead of thinking of new products. he was always looking at the world -- we would go to car shows and look at concept cars and go everywhere to look at what is knew and what is coming.

he always had an eye for what was going to happen in the future. >> how much more could there be, jay? >> well, think about it, the next thing is going to be interface, voice, and media. content is king. i believe in the future, we're going to see internet television. this is the direction apple is going to go in. >> well, thanks for contributing to our content. we appreciate that. jay elliott. >> thanks for having me. president obama is defending those who work in the financial industry. we're going to talk to a protest organizer in just a moment on "weekends with alex witt." pick up what we need. roll out... caulk...and install. and pretty soon, we're seeing the fruits of our labor right there at our bottom line. more saving. more doing.

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three weeks and counting. the occupy wall street protest is still going strong. the demonstrators started camping out on september 17th and similar protests have spread across the country. joining us is harrison schultz.

good morning to you, harrison. how do you think your message is resonating. we got the president giving sympathy for pthe protests and there's a conflict there. >> i'd like to clarify, i'm a participant in this because as a participant, no one is really organizing this. this is happening spontaneously on its own. >> so if no one is really organizing, what is this? i mean, do you call this sort of a grassroots movement? i mean, what's behind it? >> this is society spontaneously starting to heal itself, in my opinion. this is people -- when i think of justice, this is people tired of playing by the rules and coming up short every month. and this is people going down to talk about common problems. and what people are finding is a lot of mutual support and community. and that's what is going to lead

to change. >> harrison, how long is this going to last? >> i hope it never ends personally. this is an example of how society should look. people sharing labor, this is all good stuff. >> right. but if there is an end game here, what do you need to pack up your sleeping bag and get out of there and go home? >> i can come and go whenever i want and i'm still part of the community. >> so what do you want to see happen so that you can maybe not spend the days there in the park downtown? >> i can tell you that -- i believe they are look looking at this in terms of politics is going to lead to a lot of misunderstanding of this movement. this is not a political movement. most of the people that have expressed interest to me and most of the traffic that i see online from people that would describe themselves as independent. so in terms of demands, i'm one of the people here that isn't interested in making demands. i feel like we live in a

political society already and i don't think anyone here is really waiting for a leader to come and help us. we're talking about taking action and solving our own problems from here on out. >> i'm curious, harrison, what percentage of the people there have jobs right now? >> i have no information on that. that's something that i've been researching. i can tell you i work full time and a lot of the people that i work closely here with work full time as well. >> i'd be curious to get that information from you when i figure it all out. harrison schultz, thank you for talking with us. >> thank you for having me. what are the candidates saying about the religious attack with mitt romney and rick perry. is president obama getting the jobs bill any closer to passing in congress?

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